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http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2011/11/22/City-favoritism-in-rehab-work-awards-alleged-2.html

"There’s Larry Hinz, a recently retired contractor who watched another company receive a $66,000 contract, even though his bid had been lower. There’s Sam Khalaf, a local contractor who suspects someone gave his competition access to his sealed bids, costing him $150,000 — nearly a year’s work. And there’s Craig Gordy, a second-generation contractor who says a city staff member steered him to a subcontractor who is a convicted felon.

City officials expressed surprise and concern when confronted with the claims. Such accusations never have been brought to their attention, said Kattie Bond, director of the city’s neighborhoods department."

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Nothing like the city of Toledo funneling millions in federal money to friends. I thought opening bids and awarding contracts were supposed to be fair. I know governments don't have to award contracts to the lowest bidder, but if they don't, they're supposed to say why - i.e., the contractor has a bad reputation for not finishing the job or using defective materials. Doesn't sound like this was the case. I like how Mayor Bell slammed The Blade for doing the story! This guy has little credibility left. I had heard from a contractor years ago that this was going on, but he was too afraid to say anything publicly out of fear he would be blacklisted by the city and lose out on contracts. Great story!

posted by renegade on Nov 22, 2011 at 06:39:02 am     #  

Here is a wild idea, maybe if we didn't divvy public dollars out to private companies, just maybe we wouldn't have this problem. Eliminate the ability for government to buy favors (political donations), as regulations will never eliminate crony capitalism but locking the cash register will.

This really pocket change when you think about what happens at the Federal level. Every time you drive by a section 8 home is disrepair that is destroying the value of a neighborhood, remember Uncle Sam is cutting that landlord check without ever holding him liable.

I know, I know I'm the "crazy" one but the problem is so much bigger than we think.

posted by dbw8906 on Nov 22, 2011 at 07:59:45 am     #   2 people liked this

Public bids are supposed to have public openings. Witnesses and checklists all part of the procedures. I have sat in these openings and it is kind of fun with the nervous energy to see if you are the successful bidder.
The article really raises some issues about the bidding process and the coercion between parties.

posted by Hoops on Nov 22, 2011 at 09:28:59 am     #   1 person liked this

DBW – “Here is a wild idea, maybe if we didn't divvy public dollars out to private companies”

I absolutely agree, but many conservatives and radio talking heads keep going on and on about how the government shouldn’t do anything that’s in the phone book because private companies can do everything more efficiently.

posted by SensorG on Nov 22, 2011 at 09:37:10 am     #  

Mr. G - "how the government shouldn’t do anything that’s in the phone book because private companies can do everything more efficiently." - Well said and not always true. I think most of that angst comes from no bid union only labor contracts.

But I will counter with why where students better educated long before the advent of teachers unions and county/state board of education? Just because a bunch of "smart people" in DC are running a program doesn't make it better. Mr. G do you send you children to public school? If not than why?

Not everything government does is done "more efficiently". I just believe we should be giving people the choice in matter like schooling and healthcare. I have no problem with a government option in healthcare to keep private insurance honest.

posted by dbw8906 on Nov 22, 2011 at 09:57:26 am     #   1 person liked this

I'm not sure what teacher's unions have to do with anything, but I'll play a bit. When was the golden age of education for you? The National Teachers Association was formed in 1857 and by 1957 had 700k members? My kids go to private school for a lot of reason, none of them being that public schools are unionized.

posted by SensorG on Nov 22, 2011 at 10:17:23 am     #   2 people liked this

Not a rally against teachers unions, just pointing out that government doesn't always do things better.

My neighborhood school where my tax dollars are spent has been in academic emergency for years, I wish better for my children. I drive a car with 200k miles on it now, don't get to go on nice vacations and short change my retirement fund because I refuse to send my children somewhere that is in academic emergency and violence is a daily reality. I do not have a CHOICE to keep my dollars (Michigan has school of choice) so I must give them up and pay for private schooling on top of that. Not because of unions but because of failure of our leaders to fix education.

Again not a ant-union post but I'm sick of the idea that if we just hand money to the government they will divvy it out for the "best" programs. We see that progressive lie failing more abundently everyday.

posted by dbw8906 on Nov 22, 2011 at 10:30:43 am     #  

From The Blade: But public records confirm that Ms. Butts of Friendship New Vision and Ms. Prude, the city housing manager who oversees the program through which Friendship New Vision has received much of its federal money, were friends in 2008.

Who says there's no money in religion? What about separation of Church and State? What about corruption, lies and money?

From The Blade: According to police reports, Ms. Prude was drinking with Ms. Butts at the Quality Bar on Cherry Street in 2008...

Waiting for Mr. Dick. I swear that truth is stranger than fiction.

I hope The Blade follows through on this story and the DOJ gets involved. With any luck at all, maybe a few city workers will end up with a brand new benefits program that includes housing. Secure housing.

My congratulations to Tony Cook for an excellent story.

posted by madjack on Nov 22, 2011 at 10:42:39 am     #   1 person liked this

i would emphasize once again that it is not the government that is corrupt but the politicians - and the politicians continue to write the rules on how jobs get appointed and contracts get awarded.

we as citizens, of any political stripe, need to come up with the rules that determines the roles of politicians. the most prudent agency that should be set up is one that polices the politicians, conflicts of interest, limits political appointments, vetting people and contracts.

politicians will not do this - it has to come from us and be put beyond politicians control to influence

posted by enjoyeverysandwich on Nov 22, 2011 at 10:55:47 am     #   1 person liked this

There is an ancillary issue here that's also important. How would we know this information if it wasn't for the reporting by the Blade? Upfront I'll readily admit that I've taken my turn at bat in bashing the Blade. However, I still subscribe to the daily and Sunday hardcopy and I read it every day. Every community NEEDS a good local newspaper. Its good, solid, investigative reporting like this that ultimately can aid in holding politicians and bureaucrats accountabile.

Now, lets hope Bell gets it. He'd better get started on an aggressive cleanup. Start with transparency, dual control and a documented chain of custody in the bid process. Dual control with a disinterested party is absolutely crucial to ensuring the integrity of the process.

I've seen the proper way to handle bids when I was on Council for the Village of Holland. What the Blade reports going on in the City is really shocking. I feel sorry for the honest contractor who's tried to operate within this rigged environment.

Thank You! Toledo Blade. Today's story alone was worth the annual subscription cost.

posted by holland on Nov 22, 2011 at 11:38:24 am     #  

holland - agree with your comments; the publisher is the problem - the employees have to put up with him in real and direct way all the time and deserve some sympathy. he has messed with the remainder of us in indirect though significant ways, carrying out vendettas... chasing insignificant issues... trying to date our female population - yuk!

posted by enjoyeverysandwich on Nov 22, 2011 at 12:04:43 pm     #  

Its not what what they report, its what they choose not to report or what the publisher wont let get reported. You have to wonder why they chose this subject to air out, not that I give a damn about Bell but are they going after him and his cronies? Personally I would wish for a lot more of this type of reporting from The Blade, the press is the unofficial 4th branch of the government, there to keep the other 3 branches honest and bring the attention of the people to what their government is up to. Regardless of which side that gets the black eye, I say print more information let the people decide after all the facts are known, but identify what is fact from hearsay.

posted by Linecrosser on Nov 22, 2011 at 12:31:34 pm     #   1 person liked this

Where ever there is a system, there will be people trying to game it.

posted by JohnnyMac on Nov 22, 2011 at 12:35:00 pm     #  

It seems unlikley they are going directly after Bell. After all, Bell was nearly a lone wolf supporter of SB5. SB5 was and is still highly favored by the Blade. Union busting is a Block favorite. I viewed the Blade's reporting of information around SB5 to be slanted, highly suspect and extrememly partisan.

Their reporting a year or so ago of the financial condition of the Ohio Public Employees Retirement System was downright dishonest. Undeniable facts contrary to the Blade's reporting were given voice only through letters to the editor. Everybody who has lived in the area long enough knows that the Blade consistently choses to ignore reporting on certain issues that Block doesn't favor or that he wants to protect from scrutiny. As I said, I've bashed the Blade before and no dought I will again.

But there are times, such as this, when they deserve credit. I can be fair, even if they sometimes are not.

posted by holland on Nov 22, 2011 at 12:51:32 pm     #  

Who is responsible within the City for appointing a special prosecutor to look into this or is something the local law enforcement agencies have to do on their own?

Just by the look of this, numerous laws appear to have been broken.

Then again, just like WallStreet, no one seems to go to jail for white collar crime.

posted by toledoramblingman on Nov 22, 2011 at 01:45:20 pm     #   1 person liked this

This has been going for at least 2 years. Most of the contractors didn't want to come forward, because they didn't want to get banned from getting other city contracts (and that was implied). There are two people that will bring that entire department down. They are both listed in the article.

posted by slowsol on Nov 22, 2011 at 01:51:25 pm     #  

"Ms. Butts flatly denied that. “Sam didn’t drop no bids off,” she said, later adding, “He won’t get another bid from us.”

posted by toledolen_ on Nov 22, 2011 at 03:06:31 pm     #  

toledolen_ posted at 02:06:31 PM on Nov 22, 2011:

"Ms. Butts flatly denied that. “Sam didn’t drop no bids off,” she said, later adding, “He won’t get another bid from us.”

I noticed that quote in the article too. Seems to corroborate the fact that some bidders didn't want to complain, for fear of being shut out from future bids.

posted by mom2 on Nov 22, 2011 at 03:09:40 pm     #  

It also seals Ms. Butts' fate. She states "He won't get another bid from us". Legally, if "Sam" came in as the lowest bidder and met all the bid specifications, Sam can't be denied the contract. What Ms. Butts proposes is illegal, and the basis for a slam dunk suit, including damages, against herself and against the City. Nice. Real Nice. I guess there's no limit on how corrupt, nasty and stupid a person can be.

posted by holland on Nov 22, 2011 at 04:17:41 pm     #   1 person liked this

And then they are trying to push this through:

http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2011/11/22/Capital-improvement-fund-would-take-hit-with-mall-plan.html

Wake up, Toledo.

posted by toledolen_ on Nov 22, 2011 at 04:52:31 pm     #  

City council should hold a public hearing and invite contractors to talk about their complaints. Then council should clean house. Those who lose their jobs will probably sue the city, and knowing Bell, he'll probably offer them huge severance packages, or settlements. There's no justice when it comes to government corruption in Toledo.

posted by renegade on Nov 22, 2011 at 07:35:55 pm     #  

Federal funds, bad stuff. Time to clean house.

posted by Private on Nov 22, 2011 at 08:51:55 pm     #  

wilkowski was too honest and forthright for the crooks (politicians, administrators, and power brokers) to allow him to get elected. could you imagine the rats scurrying with a little light shining down on them?!

is there anyone leading the charge to recall bell?

posted by enjoyeverysandwich on Nov 22, 2011 at 10:43:45 pm     #   2 people liked this

renegade - None of the contractors who's livelyhoods depend on city business will voice a complaint for fear of retribution. That's abundantly clear in the newspaper report.

enjoyeverysandwich - Unless he's directly involved Bell will never be recalled.

This is a mess that's going to be hard to clean up. The only objective investigation can be done by individuals who are unbiased and have nothing to lose. Its a hot potato that no one will want to be assigned.

It was my experience that bidders were given a time stamped government issued receipt when they submitted a bid. All of the sealed bids submitted for a specific project were opened and read aloud at the same time in public on a predetermined published date and time which any interested party could attend. I was present at many of these. The submiting contractors were almost always present. After the bids are read aloud they are sent to the appropriate departments for review and evaluation to determine if the specifications had been met. Bid acceptance was done in an open Council meeting where questions could be asked by any interested party. The process is straight forward, transparent and fair. What's going on in the city is absolutely appalling.

posted by holland on Nov 23, 2011 at 12:09:38 am     #  

recalled not based on the specifics of this... if that were proved that would be cause to remove him from office through the charter (i assume... hope).

i was wondering if there is a growing sense of buyers remorse from the voters for the accumulated issues and policies that have sprung from the bell administration. recall elections don't have to have "cause" - just enough valid signatures to get on the ballot and then votes to remove.

you are absolutely correct that butts has left the city and herself open to legal action - i would think even bell or at least herwat would recognize she needs to be fired.

posted by enjoyeverysandwich on Nov 23, 2011 at 12:43:20 am     #  

Please, not another movement to remove the Toledo mayor. The last time all it did was cost a lot of people's time and money and ended up doing nothing.

posted by hockeyfan on Nov 23, 2011 at 02:00:44 am     #   1 person liked this

More news on this today. Bell and his lackeys just 'deny, deny, deny' - even though the first article demonstrated many "irregularities" which suggest cronyism, and possibly corruption. Something smells fishy, very fishy, here.

posted by RockChick on Nov 23, 2011 at 12:37:50 pm     #  

Somewhere, there is law that governs the bidding process for those funds expended through that agency. I'd bet my retirement that those laws and reguations were not met.

posted by holland on Nov 23, 2011 at 01:30:18 pm     #  

I wish wilkowski would run again. I was so bummed when he lost.

posted by toledolen_ on Nov 23, 2011 at 02:40:55 pm     #  

Wow – Fred on WSPD is really carrying water for Mike Bell and the Department of Neighborhoods; really going after Collins for asking questions…

Fred’s reasoning - they are following all guidelines because Mike Bell says they are; nothing to see here, move along…

posted by SensorG on Dec 01, 2011 at 09:18:13 am     #   1 person liked this

Opening the bids at One Gov't Center with a witness and proper recording is a no-brainer. The results are public record and ALL bidders should get a copy. It helps when bdding future projects. In addition, bids usually require multiple legal forms, bid bonds, etc that must be included for the bid to even be accepted and considered.
I have seen bids thrown out because of simple paperwork mistakes...dot the I and cross the T

posted by Hoops on Dec 01, 2011 at 10:10:56 am     #  

We haven't done anything wrong, but here's a list of things we are going to change.

Who does that make sense to?

And the fact that they were allowing developers to act as their own general contractor and earn both the development fee and the general contractor fee is ridiculous. Most of them were just hiring another general contractor and letting them sub all the work; basically collecting the fee for doing nothing.

posted by slowsol on Dec 01, 2011 at 11:59:02 am     #  

Thanks for listening Sensor. Without you I wouldn't get a bonus each quarter.

posted by fred on Dec 01, 2011 at 12:11:39 pm     #  

Fred, I'm glad I can help and like I said before - You are way underfunding your 401k for a guy your age, so I hope you save the bonus for retirement.

posted by SensorG on Dec 01, 2011 at 01:05:54 pm     #  

Wow Fred, if you're caring water, your boss is driving it a truck. Total attack on D. Michael Collins...calling him D. Minus was totally juvenile, talk about mouth breathing...

BTW next time you talk to Denny ask him how caring all the water for Noe worked out for him.

posted by SensorG on Dec 01, 2011 at 07:36:45 pm     #   1 person liked this

Thanks for listening Sensor. Without you I wouldn't get a bonus each quarter.

You hear this line from FoxNews all the time when the crow about how they are number one in this area or that. But most popular doesn't = best. "Dancing With The Stars" is the most viewed program in America and that show sucks.

posted by Ace_Face on Dec 01, 2011 at 09:40:10 pm     #   2 people liked this

SensorG - huh? What is "caring water" and "driving it a truck"?

posted by dell_diva on Dec 01, 2011 at 09:57:25 pm     #  

Fair enough – I can type 60 words per minute, but my hands don’t always type exactly what I like them to type. :)

Carrying water
Driving it in a truck

posted by SensorG on Dec 01, 2011 at 10:11:18 pm     #  

DATELINE DEC 2

the blade has the story of mr collin having voice mail left with the contractor who was pressured to use a certain unqualified contractor on these DoN contracts but to leave his name off applications/contract forms. the voice mail from a DoN staffer instructed him that katie bond directed this staff person to tell the contractor to recant his story to the blade.

therefore, the staff person of the dept of neighborhoods is directly tied to the coercion. the question becomes is there direct evidence that katie bond did indeed inform this person to demand the contractor to recant the statement made to the blade.

if there is direct evidence to bond or if bond succumbs to pressure and admits she directed the staff member, does she then roll on the mayor or vice mayor AND is there direct evidence of that?

posted by enjoyeverysandwich on Dec 02, 2011 at 11:05:33 am     #  

I haven't spoken to him in some time Sensor but I think it may have worked out okay since he is doing mornings in New Orleans which for radio purposes has a much higher ranking than Toledo.

posted by fred on Dec 02, 2011 at 11:12:51 am     #  

Nothing to see here...move along.

http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2011/12/02/Voice-mails-reviewed-in-possible-city-cover-up.html

posted by SensorG on Dec 02, 2011 at 11:22:47 am     #  

"Ms. Butts flatly denied that. “Sam didn’t drop no bids off,” she said...

Nice English skills, Ms. Butts.

I liked the empty threat about Ms. Thomas suing Mr. Gordy for slander if he doesn't recant his story. Doesn't sound completely desperate at all...

posted by oldhometown on Dec 02, 2011 at 11:55:51 am     #  

Just keeps getting better..........to be continued

posted by Hoops on Dec 02, 2011 at 12:20:58 pm     #   1 person liked this

Good onya D M Collins! Keep the pressure on them. Bell will be sucking his own thumb by the weekend. Shayla!!!!!!!!!!

posted by RockChick on Dec 02, 2011 at 01:59:13 pm     #  

"During a Wednesday council hearing on the issues, Mr. Bell said his administration would make several changes to the neighborhood department's bidding process to improve the "perception of fairness," but administration officials emphasized that the changes don't necessarily mean wrongdoing has occurred."

LOL! Whatever... one term for Bell.

posted by toledolen_ on Dec 02, 2011 at 04:51:21 pm     #  

No way will they ever admit to anything remotely close to wrongdoing, no matter how blatently factual. They're gonna get their fannies sued, might have the Feds after them and could even lose their current Federal funding. Bell HAS to deny, deny, deny. City administrators really dropped the ball on this one. Its about as serious as it gets. Go Collins!!!!

I hate to see the city get in a jamb, but I hate corruption and favoritism even worse.

posted by holland on Dec 02, 2011 at 06:03:52 pm     #   2 people liked this

The plot thickens further...

2 Neighborhood Department Employees Placed on Leave

Neighborhoods Director Kattie Bond and Housing Commissioner Mike Badik were placed on paid leave Friday morning, had their work identification cards confiscated, and were told to leave One Government Center where they work, city spokesman Jen Sorgenfrei said.

Of course it's paid leave...of course...

posted by oldhometown on Dec 09, 2011 at 02:14:49 pm     #  

"perception of fairness"????? why not make it fair period? Problem with government is lack of transperency, just about everything should be a matter of public record. Those closed bids once decided should be open information. Even if its just posted as a .pdf on a government website somewhere and searchable.

posted by Linecrosser on Dec 09, 2011 at 02:30:15 pm     #  

What? Nothing can be going on here. After all Fred and Brian on WSPD have spent hours and hours and hours telling me everything is great and there is nothing too see…

I wonder if Brian Wilson will apologize to D. Michael Collins for continually calling him D. Minus Collins…so cleaver that one.

posted by SensorG on Dec 09, 2011 at 02:50:40 pm     #   2 people liked this

I'm not a WSPD listener (not in radio signal range most days) but catch it occasionally and I've pondered why they are carrying the water for the Bell group?

A real Libertarian would not be backing a group as steeped in crony capitalism.

posted by dbw8906 on Dec 09, 2011 at 02:55:09 pm     #  

Another day, more crap...

http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2012/01/01/Rehab-contracts-went-to-convicted-criminals.html

I look forward to WSPD raking Bell over the coals...

Just joking... After spending days bashing Collins and defending Bell after the first couple articles, they've been very silent as of late.

posted by SensorG on Jan 01, 2012 at 10:28:11 am     #  

I would expect the Speedy boys to blame it all on Carty. Wait for it.

posted by max on Jan 01, 2012 at 12:53:56 pm     #   1 person liked this

Excerpts - Jan 19, 2012 - Toledo Free Press - Collins initiated investigation into neighborhoods department

When Toledo City Councilman D. Michael Collins asserted in November that council should investigate potential foul play within the neighborhoods department, he felt his appeal was dismissed as “political grandstanding.” But Collins’ involvement in the investigation goes much deeper than that call for action.

In August, contractors approached Collins with stories of bid rigging and intimidation from the city department. He said he listened and started digging through public records. As word began to spread about his research, calls flooded in with more tips.

He and his legislative aide, Lisa Renee Ward (a former Toledo Free Press Web editor), compared bids and found that two separate proposals were nearly identical. He found that an accountant group working on a city deal had walked away from a community development corporation, citing the city was not cooperating with required records transfers. He conducted cross-examination interviews with contractors about bid rigging and found that all of the stories mirrored each other.

By November, Collins was ready to release his story. He said if he had found anything that warranted a criminal investigation, he would have gone to the prosecutor. He gave his research to the media instead of Mayor Mike Bell’s administration because he didn’t think he would be taken seriously. Also, reviewing various documents had made him lose trust that the administration would investigate.

The two incidences that convinced Collins to bypass the Bell administration involved former Housing Manager Jody Prude and former rehab specialist Toni Thomas. Collins said a police officer told him that her supervisor directed her not to charge Prude with falsification after she wrecked her car, left the scene and reported it stolen. Collins notified a city official but nothing was done.

The other decision that bothered him related to Thomas. A community development corporation (CDC) reported that Thomas was being too overbearing and the administration dealt with the complaint by curtailing all of Thomas’ interactions with that CDC, instead of investigating how she handled others, Collins said.

“My public statements can be conveniently described as an attempt to build a political staircase in seeking the office of the mayor of the City of Toledo and I frankly find that reprehensible because my work as a police officer was never designed to create the opportunity to become chief,” Collins said. “One would ask, are you planning on a campaign against Mike Bell and is this the kickoff? The answer is no. I was elected in November of 2011 as the Council member representing District 2 in Toledo and that is a position that I fully anticipate completing.”

Excerpts - Jan 20, 2012 - WSPD - The Blade Got A lot of Help Blowing the Lid off the Departmant of Neighborhoods - "Councilman D. Michael Collins spoon feeds the Blade the whole story"

It was previously believed the Blade Newspaper "singlehandedly" uncovered an environment of alleged favoritsim and bid rigging at Toledo's beleagered Department of Neighborhoods, but the Free Press is reporting that the story was dropped into the daily's lap on a silver platter by none other than City Councilman D. Michael Collins, prompting some serious questions into the councilman's motives and respect for proper procedures.

Collin's then took his findings to the editors at the Blade. "I firmly believe that had I not taken the steps I took, nothing would have ever been revealed to the extent that it is today," Collins said.

The Mayor's office is understandibly furious with the revelations and says Collins mishandled the entire matter

Mishandled the investigation? I would say the corruption or whatever it's called within local government is a "mishandle."

The WSPD story seemed to skip the part about malfeasance and incompetence existing within local government. Who cares how it's exposed?

But this does show that the Blade may not have done the big investigative work like people thought. How could they? They were too busy trying to save a courthouse. I was always a little suspicious that the Blade was the one behind uncovering this mess because it's out of character for them. They don't shake down local government entities like they should.

Comments higher up in this thread about the Blade:

  • "Personally I would wish for a lot more of this type of reporting from The Blade, the press is the unofficial 4th branch of the government, there to keep the other 3 branches honest and bring the attention of the people to what their government is up to."
  • "Thank You! Toledo Blade. Today's story alone was worth the annual subscription cost."

It seems, however, that the investigative work may have been done by Lisa Renee Ward, the former blogger at Glass City Jungle. So thank her. No surprise here. She did this kind of work for years on her site. It's no coincidence that Ward was involved in exposing this government problem. Ward being the one behind the investigative work, at least the initial investigation, makes more sense to me than any newspaper.

If five Lisa Renee Wards existed in our local media, then our local government entities would be very nervous. I wonder what journalism school Ward graduated from?

January 25, 2006 Toledo Talk post by psyche777 (Lisa Renee Ward) that pointed to a TFP interview with the new WSPD afternoon radio host, Brian Wilson, who described bloggers this way:

".... every town has a blog, and they are generally populated by Kool-Aid drinkers, mouth-breathers, has-beens, never-will-be people and so on. It's a game that means nothing. It's generally a hobby for someone to masturbate their ego anonymously. I've been in this business 40 years. They're listeners. They have no clue how this business works."

But a mouth-breathing-never-will-be person helped expose local government problems. When will the "real" media catch up to the ego-masturbators?

posted by jr on Jan 20, 2012 at 11:25:22 am     #  

I was thinking the same thing JR. If you are corrupt and in government, I want your name and actions sung out for all to hear. If this been handled internally by Bell without any media exposure does anyone really think that something would have been done?

WSPD hate Collins. When the scandal first broke and Bell defended the neighborhoods department, WSPD personally attacked him. Repeating over and over it was nothing but a witch hunt and no wrong doing was done.

Turns out, there was a lot of wrong doing and multi people were fired and demoted.

If Collins thinks he can become mayor by exposing corruption, then power to him!

Thanks D. Michael and Lisa Renee - now pick another department and start digging.

posted by SensorG on Jan 20, 2012 at 11:47:31 am     #  

SensorG did Fred LeFebvre and Brian Wilson ever apologize to D. Michael Collins for asking questions about Dept of Neighborhoods? Seems the piss poor radio station always jumps to conclusions then covers its excrement by silence and denial. Collins went to the right media source to get an unbiased investigation of DON. If he had went to WBSPD they would have probably covered it up to protect BELL. Again WBSPD stick to teaching little monkeys to peel bananas, your job is to entertain not inform! http://www.toledoblade.com/TV-Radio/2011/10/15/WSPD-host-Job-as-entertainer-is-to-provoke-his-listeners.html

posted by wolfman on Jan 20, 2012 at 01:42:54 pm     #  

Amen jr!!! You couldn't have said it any better. And SensorG - you are spot-on in your first paragraph. To think that taking this information through the proper channels would accomplish anything is just plain foolish.

I always thought so highly of Fred at WSPD... but I can't even stand to listen to him for five minutes anymore. Brian is rubbing off on him way too much.

posted by dell_diva on Jan 20, 2012 at 08:23:16 pm     #   1 person liked this

Well I stopped listening to them, they are just too negative and Brian hasn't got any skin in the game anymore. Add to that the fact he can't seem to get out a sentence clearly. Fred at least could talk cleanly, not sure you could continue to employ someone in communications like Brian that can't seem to communicate very well. But then again Obama's last press guy was worse than Brian. Anyways, I stopped listening to them because of the single standard negativity they are portraying, I still think someone is needed to point out information on the "questionable" politicking and cronyism along with bringing out dirty laundry that has been hidden for too long, but I'm no longer sure these guys are objective anymore. Frankly listening to them was getting to be all complaints with no answers for the problems. If all I wanted to hear was carping about Toledo, I can find other outlets for that.

posted by Linecrosser on Jan 20, 2012 at 11:03:44 pm     #   1 person liked this

"Fred at least could talk cleanly" Don't think so Linecrosser he kisses to much a$$. I too have limited myself to WBSPD. Their monotone message is nonsensical just downright ignorant! Also seems Fred has finally given up on pestering the blogs wonder if the hierarchy told him to lay low in the new year? Anyway I found Iheart radio and have become accustomed to listening to a multiple of stations across the country. I do miss the local news but WBSPD long ago abandoned that. If anyone out there listens daily did the knuckleheads apologize to D. Michael Collins?

posted by wolfman on Jan 21, 2012 at 04:27:05 am     #  

Pretty lame story by the Toledo Free Press here. You take the word of Collins, a total egomaniac and press whore, and don't even try to contact the Blade reporters to see if there's another side to the story?

Collins is spewing total B.S. here, and it's really low for him to pull this. It's even lower for the Free Press reporter and their editing staff to do that to fellow journalists like Tony Cook and Claudia Boyd-Barrett.

A pathetic attempt by the Free Press to undercut the Blade and attempt to gain some credit for the investigative legwork here by attaching Ward to the story.

posted by downtown on Jan 22, 2012 at 11:24:33 pm     #  

"A pathetic attempt by the Free Press to undercut the Blade and attempt to gain some credit for the investigative legwork here by attaching Ward to the story."

I don't understand. Are you thinking Ward still works for the TFP? She works in city government. Last summer, she shut down her blog, and she had to leave the TFP when she accepted her job in city government.

I didn't see anything wrong with the TFP story. But in my opinion, the WSPD story is lame. Did WSPD contact the Blade reporters to see if there's another side to the story? WSPD's story was more concerned about how favoritism and malfeasance in Toledo government were exposed, instead of the fact that favoritism and malfeasance exist in local government. The WSPD story was focused on the wrong thing.

posted by jr on Jan 23, 2012 at 02:00:08 am     #  

I'd be happy to have Collins in the press every day if it meant another corrupt or incompetent department was getting exposed.

As for going to The Blade, what choice do you really have? The TV stations at best could devote 60-90 seconds to it, the Toledo Free Press only publishes once per week and WSPD news department consists of reading article right from The Blade anyway…

posted by SensorG on Jan 23, 2012 at 09:05:40 am     #   1 person liked this

I know she works for the city now. My insinuation was that TFP was trying to gain as much credit as they could by saying, "Look, an ex-reporter of ours did all the REAL work, the Blade didn't do anything."

What's wrong with the TFP story is that how it portrays what happened and who was the source for the stories is inaccurate.

posted by downtown on Jan 23, 2012 at 10:12:35 pm     #  

collins and lisa rene may well have done much of the initial investigation... which is their jobs - and i have nothing but admiration for LRW. in combo with this site it was the ideal blog environment and they complimented each other.

collins is a complicated often conflicted person... sometimes he is vaguely corrupt in that he serves union desires rather than the best interests of constituents and at other times he is ralph nader (in the good sense of ralph nader).

the blade probably got the story and research from collins and collins wanted to keep his fingerprints off of it for political cover... then when it went so well and the smoke indeed led to fire and he saw populist political advantage to it, he wanted the credit and at that point the blade might not have seen the value in doing a piece that gave collins the credit... enter tom pounds and tfp who are being sued by his former employer. the opportunity to rip the blade is almost always tom's 2nd motivation in life so... we arrive here with story about everyone wanting credit for exposing the higher level of corruption the bell administration has brought to us.

at least that is my read of the whole thing...

posted by enjoyeverysandwich on Jan 24, 2012 at 10:35:33 am     #  

Did Bell hire or appoint those people in the dept of neighborhoods, or were they held over from the previous administration?

posted by Linecrosser on Jan 24, 2012 at 12:38:17 pm     #  

http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2012/01/27/Toledo-roof-program-way-over-budget.html

This keeps getting better and better.

posted by hunkytownsausage on Jan 27, 2012 at 10:55:11 am     #  

Money in politics leads to nothing but abuse.

posted by dbw8906 on Jan 27, 2012 at 11:10:44 am     #  

Nothing to see here...it's all "D-Collins" fault for bring it to the Blade...

posted by SensorG on Jan 27, 2012 at 11:51:03 am     #  

I though its was Bush's fault? hehe

posted by Linecrosser on Jan 27, 2012 at 11:52:12 am     #   1 person liked this

"Jackson, who is also known as "Fruit Loop" according to police records"

bahaha I cracked up when I read that. Also "Big boy Construction" Does that sound likea legit business to anyone?

posted by glasscityguy on Jan 29, 2012 at 02:17:11 pm     #   2 people liked this

Kwami Bell and Big Boy!! Sounds like Thug Life fosho...Know what Im Sayin????????

posted by RockChick on Jan 30, 2012 at 01:59:59 am     #  

glasscityguy posted at 01:17:11 PM on Jan 29, 2012:

"Jackson, who is also known as "Fruit Loop" according to police records"

bahaha I cracked up when I read that. Also "Big boy Construction" Does that sound likea legit business to anyone?

Many of these companies start up for the sole purpose of working for the city and doing government funded jobs. They are able to take advantage of the MBE requirements and therefore are awarded a ridiculous amount of work. If you looked at the list of contractors that do city work, you would only recognize about half of the names.

posted by slowsol on Jan 30, 2012 at 09:07:37 am     #  

"They are able to take advantage of the MBE requirements" - Government shouldn't be handing out public dollars based on race/age/sex. Public money dribbled out to private hands involves more rackteering than Capone could ever dream of.

posted by dbw8906 on Jan 30, 2012 at 11:29:41 am     #  

Report Cites Wrongdoing In Toledo Neighborhoods Department (includes pdf link to actual report)

The 19-page report, provided to city council members Wednesday morning, paints a picture of a deeply dysfunctional department where problems included an off-the-books petty cash fund, intimidation of a police officer who was investigating a department employee, an employee running his or her own contracting business, licensed contractors lending their names to unlicensed contractors, and a “probability” that one contractor was given access to another’s sealed bids.

...[T]he city investigators outlined allegations that included:

* possible theft of money and equipment
* improper bidding procedures
* unexplained increases in project costs
* payment for the same work to different contractors
* “hand-holding” certain contractors through the process, giving them a competitive advantage
* special efforts to ensure more prompt payment for certain contractors
* missing, incomplete, and unorganized records

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...<sigh>...

posted by oldhometown on Feb 01, 2012 at 04:03:02 pm     #  

Hate to say it but this screams of a stereotypical statement of "I'm Black you owe me a job even if I did screw up the last one I had".

posted by Linecrosser on Apr 11, 2012 at 11:27:43 pm     #  

Linecrosser - stereotypical statement of "I'm Black you owe me a job even if I did screw up the last one I had".

Racist much?

I've never heard a black person say this is 30 odd years...

posted by SensorG on Apr 12, 2012 at 08:01:03 am     #   1 person liked this

Everyone is racist whether you think you are or not. Unless your blind and deaf your vision or hearing can give you clues as to someone being different than you and can affect your judgement, even subconciously. You might take great pains to not let it affect your judgement or decisions but the concious effort to do that still reflects that you took race in to effect before making that decision.
Anyone that can't admit that isn't being honest with themselves.

posted by Linecrosser on Apr 12, 2012 at 08:42:21 am     #  

That article is ridiculous. The sad part is that they will slip her into another department and no one will notice.

I think her wanting a job after she's been fired has much less to do with her race as much as her belief that she did nothing wrong. She has yet to realize that when she runs a department, everything that comes out of that department is on her shoulders. Those people under you are YOUR responsibility, whether you pay enough attention to know what they are doing or not.

posted by slowsol on Apr 12, 2012 at 08:51:55 am     #  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=afGRza6bFYw

posted by Linecrosser on Apr 12, 2012 at 08:54:48 am     #  

IF and I say IF she gets another job, it should be cleaning toilets or pushing a broom. If she gets anything better than that it will be another nail in Bell's coffin. People will be watching.

posted by RockChick on Apr 12, 2012 at 10:19:27 am     #  

Again Linecrosser...what does this thread have to do with race?

A racist is defined as -
A racist is someone who believes in the superiority of one race over another, or who acts differently (usually negatively) towards a person or a group of people because of their race.

By that definition, I'm no racist. Sorry if you try to make yourself feel better by thinking that everyone deep down is too, but the truth is, it's just you.

posted by SensorG on Apr 12, 2012 at 10:44:00 am     #   2 people liked this

With these personal attacks on Kattie Bond, people are buying into the Bell Administration's spin and lies. Does anybody remember the first problem we heard about with the Department of Neighborhoods? The big contract to Mayor Bell's niece and contributors to Mayor Bell's campaign. Do we really believe that Kattie Bond didn't bring these issues to Mayor Bell's attention? Or was she actually following his orders?

But we're not talking about that anymore because lapdog Loukx did his job. To divert attention, the city did a faux investigation, where the biggest problem it found was that summer workers sell some of the trash they pick up to have a party. It ignored all of the serious issues, I'm guessing because investigating those issues would have indicted those in the mayor's office. Then the city fired some of the most capable people in the Department of Neighborhoods - good, long-term employees that preceded this joke of an administration.

If you believe that the problems with the city are because of the people fired, then I have a bridge over the Maumee to sell you. (And you better act fast before Mayor Bell sells it well below market value to one of his buddies!)

posted by ifXthenWhyNot on Apr 12, 2012 at 01:22:44 pm     #  

I'm sure there are problems in the city that go deeper than Kattie Bond.

However, I still question why she'd be applying for another city job. Surely she realizes how bad it looks?

And, if the situation was as bad as you say, why would she want to be back there?

posted by mom2 on Apr 12, 2012 at 01:30:08 pm     #  

Exactly mom2. Unfortunately people don't understand how corrupt the DON has been for a few years. This was directly caused by employees of Kattie Bond. She could have fired these people at any time. And the inside deals they were making had nothing to do with Bell's mayor.

Look at who got all the roofing contracts. They were awarded to a friend of a department worker. How do you not notice that 2 or 3 contractors are getting 99% of the work the department is bidding? That doesn't raise any flags? Especially when the department was supposed to be rotating bid lists and bidding it out with different contractors.

posted by slowsol on Apr 12, 2012 at 02:41:28 pm     #  

I'm willing to change my opinion with more facts, like that issue with roofing contracts. (Do you have a cite?) The federal investigation might show more problems that implicate the fired individuals. All I'm saying is that the city's "investigation" was only ass-covering.

posted by ifXthenWhyNot on Apr 12, 2012 at 03:02:50 pm     #  

She will absolutely get another job in the city.

You don't work that long in the system and make zero friends...friends who can get you in somewhere if your current job blows up (which hers certainly did).

Hell, there are lots of places in the country where public officials actually convicted of crimes aren't precluded from further employment. Why should Katie Bond be excluded, other than public perception? She hasn't been indicted or convicted of anything (yet), even though the list of bad things that happened under her "oversight" is rather long...

Not saying it's right, but the game being played is rigged. This outrage will pass. She will be a city employee again before too long.

posted by oldhometown on Apr 12, 2012 at 03:32:07 pm     #  

ifXthenWhyNot posted at 03:02:50 PM on Apr 12, 2012:

I'm willing to change my opinion with more facts, like that issue with roofing contracts. (Do you have a cite?) The federal investigation might show more problems that implicate the fired individuals. All I'm saying is that the city's "investigation" was only ass-covering.

This link from earlier in this thread identifies that 40% of the roofing contracts went to one individual alone. How does that slip by?

http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2012/01/27/Toledo-roof-program-way-over-budget.html

posted by slowsol on Apr 12, 2012 at 04:32:44 pm     #  

Does that included the leaking public school roofs?

posted by Linecrosser on Apr 12, 2012 at 11:07:56 pm     #  

" Do we really believe that Kattie Bond didn't bring these issues to Mayor Bell's attention?"

ifXthenWhyNot explain to mem how that works? Did not her friends Carty and Jack state that she did not know what was going on? How could she bring these to the attention of Mayor Bell if she did not know what was going on?

From the Blade article:
"A number of high-profile community leaders, including two former mayors and the Interdenominational Ministerial Alliance of Toledo and Vicinity, a group of African-American pastors, voiced opposition to Ms. Bond's firing. They said Ms. Bond knew little or nothing about the irregularities in the department she headed and was essentially thrown under the bus by Mayor Bell to appease public anger and the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, which provides most of the department's funding."

Sorry but I don't buy it. My guess is the simple answer is the correct one. That she told Carty/Jack that she didnt know becuase that is exactly what was happening. Why would they say that if not? More likely, she was simply just a lazy manager that was not conducting her due dilligence and it came back to bite her.

This sort of thing happens all of the time in private business, and yes those department heads get fired. That is the risk you take when accepting the challenges and, salary of these types of jobs.

posted by glasscityguy on Apr 13, 2012 at 01:28:48 pm     #  

As far as I am concerned, whether she knew what was happening or not is irrelevant to her firing - either way she should have lost her job. The only difference for me is that she should also be prosecuted if she knew what was happening in her department and encouraged or did nothing to stop it. And, if the city rehires her in any capacity, it is because we as voters do nothing to voice our displeasure with the folks who make the decisions.

posted by MoreThanRhetoric on Apr 13, 2012 at 03:23:56 pm     #  

She should have lost her job and so should many others in that department.
The more I deal with the city, the more I realize that the left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing and neither is being held responsible. If this city had a real audit where whistle blowers could report what they know, many more employees would lose their jobs.
They'll look you in the eye and tell you any number of lies to get what they want and once they get it, let the screwing begin.
This city has no integrity and has no interest in obtaining any either.

posted by hockeyfan on Apr 14, 2012 at 02:42:38 am     #  

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