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I-475 Douglas Rd on/offramp

I never believed the prediction that it would be done by year end, but it really looks like there is a huge amt to be done.

Is there an updated goal date that anyone has heard of?

created by billy on Jan 03, 2012 at 01:01:16 pm     Other     Comments: 7

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Didn't hear that prediction. Was it for the on ramp as opposed to the off ramp?

posted by Foodie on Jan 03, 2012 at 01:36:37 pm     #  

The entire ODOT road project system appears to be seriously flawed. Most projects have common denominators; orange barrels up, idle machinery and an empty job site for the majority of the week. It seems like western Europe was rebuilt faster after World War II than many road projects are completed in metro Toledo. One year, two year, and 1000 day time windows for relatively small projects in the grand scheme of things certainly are not friendly to the motoring public. Public safety is also compromised with these extended time road projects. Look at the Disalle bridge construction that ended last year, the US-23 Salisbury Road interchange, the current cluster near Toledo hospital…all taking longer than reasonably needed. Unfortunately all of these construction sites have been the home of numerous accidents also. ODOT needs to rethink the status quo and place a 24 hour/7 day work requirement on all road construction bidding with real financial penalties imposed on late completions. I have to wonder if a “select group” of contractors are getting the jobs and then stretching out limited assets to complete multiple projects on their own time schedule. It also looks like the quality of some of the recently completed projects is suspect. Take a good look at the pavement work on the Disalle bridge; hopefully the structural integrity is better than the cosmetic appearance of the road bed.

posted by Nativeoftoledo on Jan 03, 2012 at 11:19:25 pm     #  

I looked at some of the presentations on the DOT
website. It looks like the ramp from 475 to 75 north is going to stay one lane with the potential to expand it? Did I misread that?

Why is this area being expanded in a city with declining population? It isn't like this area backs up all the time - except for the ramp to 75 north, which isn't being expanded

posted by Spaceace on Jan 08, 2012 at 08:01:18 am     #  

I have wondered what the end result is supposed to be. Thanks for posting that link.

posted by tlm0000 on Jan 08, 2012 at 10:55:34 am     #  

Spaceace posted at 07:01:18 AM on Jan 08, 2012:

I looked at some of the presentations on the DOT
website. It looks like the ramp from 475 to 75 north is going to stay one lane with the potential to expand it? Did I misread that?

Why is this area being expanded in a city with declining population? It isn't like this area backs up all the time - except for the ramp to 75 north, which isn't being expanded

It's not being expanded YET because ODOT hasn't got the funding for expanding I-75 between that split and I-280. That's "sometime in the future". So while hopefully the logjam that is 75 south to 475 will abate somewhat, the rest of the logjam will continue.

posted by anonymouscoward on Jan 08, 2012 at 12:44:39 pm     #  

Nativeoftoledo posted at 10:19:25 PM on Jan 03, 2012:

The entire ODOT road project system appears to be seriously flawed. Most projects have common denominators; orange barrels up, idle machinery and an empty job site for the majority of the week. It seems like western Europe was rebuilt faster after World War II than many road projects are completed in metro Toledo. One year, two year, and 1000 day time windows for relatively small projects in the grand scheme of things certainly are not friendly to the motoring public. Public safety is also compromised with these extended time road projects. Look at the Disalle bridge construction that ended last year, the US-23 Salisbury Road interchange, the current cluster near Toledo hospital…all taking longer than reasonably needed. Unfortunately all of these construction sites have been the home of numerous accidents also. ODOT needs to rethink the status quo and place a 24 hour/7 day work requirement on all road construction bidding with real financial penalties imposed on late completions. I have to wonder if a “select group” of contractors are getting the jobs and then stretching out limited assets to complete multiple projects on their own time schedule. It also looks like the quality of some of the recently completed projects is suspect. Take a good look at the pavement work on the Disalle bridge; hopefully the structural integrity is better than the cosmetic appearance of the road bed.

Guess you missed the bit about the "abnormally high" rainfall that fouls up their projects. You can't exactly build a stable embankment or roadbed out of mud. Don't forget that concrete has a cure time and that embankments need time to settle and compact down, else you end up with a half-baked project and you spend more to fix it than you did to do it in the first place. I bet there was a lot of idle time in Michigan when they shut down 75 around the Ambassador Bridge entirely to do the entire area at one go. I bet there's a lot of nothing going on up around the Innerbelt Bridge in Cleveland too. Unless you're a highway engineer, there's no good reason to have a cow about major projects that you think aren't being done the way you think they should be.

posted by anonymouscoward on Jan 08, 2012 at 01:37:47 pm     #   2 people liked this

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