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Promotions and Cable/Satellite Rant

Promotions are used to entice new customers to join a service or buy a product. Older customers see this and think that their loyalty to that said service or product isn't appreciated, but in reality it is. The only companies that usually offer the same promotion to existing customers have to sign a one year agreement. I've been a loyal Netflix customer for several years and got my first month free. Have I received anything in return for being a loyal customer? I have and it's the service that I CHOSE to get.

Most people think that it's the cable or satellite providers fault that a certain game (NHL, NBA, NFL, etc...) cannot be aired. There are so many blackout rules that it's hard to keep track. Broadcasters dictate what cable/satellite companies show as they just pass on what they are given. That's why this year I've found that http://www.the506.com is a great web site that will show what games are watchable in a given area.

What is your opinion on these two subjects? Have you ever been mad at your cable/satellite provider due to a certain game not being on? Did you know it wasn't their fault or was it a way to just vent?

created by jashansen on Jan 11, 2012 at 11:19:17 pm     Technology     Comments: 9

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There were a ton of people on WTOL's Facebook page a few weeks ago venting about the fact that they broadcast the Browns game instead of the Lions playoff contention game.

No matter how many times someone explained that CBS dictates what NFL game airs, people still kept complaining.

It was tiresome watching the pointless griping and complaining.

(And I am a Lions fan.)

posted by mom2 on Jan 11, 2012 at 11:22:03 pm     #  

It even goes another layer when it comes to sports, especially with the NFL blackout rules as CBS has to air what the NFL gives them.

posted by jashansen on Jan 11, 2012 at 11:28:05 pm     #  

"No matter how many times someone explained that CBS dictates what NFL game airs, people still kept complaining."

And the NFL may have a say too.

CBS shows AFC teams while Fox shows NFC teams. When a game involves a team from both conferences, somehow the networks and/or the NFL determines which network shows what game.

Our local CBS station is the Browns station or affiliate. Our local Fox station is the Lions affiliate.

On Saturday, December 24, the Cleveland Browns played the Baltimore Ravens at 1:00 p.m. Both teams are in the AFC, which automatically means that CBS airs the game. Our local CBS affiliate aired the Browns at 1:00 p.m.

Also on Saturday, December 24, the San Diego Chargers played the Detroit Lions at 4:00 p.m. The Chargers are in the AFC while the Lions are in the NFC. That means that either network could have shown the game. But probably based upon the rest of the NFL schedule that day or that weekend or even earlier in the season, it was determined that CBS would air the Chargers-Lions game instead of Fox. This is not a local TV station decision. It was probably decided by the NFL along with the national networks.

I don't know how far in advance this decision was made. Was it known before the season started that the December 24 Chargers-Lions game would air on CBS? I don't think so because as the season wears on, NBC gets to cherry-pick which game it shows on Sunday night, and that could affect the schedule for the rest of the games for CBS and Fox.

The networks alternate double-header weekends. So on one weekend, Fox will show two games while CBS shows one. The next weekend, CBS will show two games while Fox shows one. The games that we see depend upon what teams our local stations are affiliated with and what divisions the affiliated teams play in and the rest of the NFL schedule that weekend.

On December 24, Fox had the double-header, not CBS. So our local CBS station could air only one NFL game, and since it's affiliated with the Browns, that's the game that got aired.

If CBS had the double-header on December 24, then we would have seen the Lions play at 4:00 p.m. But Fox had the double-header.

It was an unfortunate set of circumstances that occurred at the wrong time for Lions fans. But those are the rules handed down by the TV contracts between the NFL and the national networks.

I listened to the Chargers-Lions game on the radio.

The above info is why sometimes a region may not see the "good" game at 4:00 p.m. on a network that has the double-header. For example, we watch the Lions play at 1:00 p.m. on Fox, and Fox has the double-header. The 4:00 p.m. game on Fox that is seen by most of the country features the Giants and the Cowboys, which should be a good game. But also playing at 4:00 p.m. is the Packers at Seahawks, which should be a lame game because the Packers are so much better. I would prefer to see the Giants vs the Cowboys, but since the Packers are in the same division as the Lions, we get the lame game on our local Fox station. Obviously, Packer country would automatically get the Packers game, but I would say the NFL determines that Lions country also gets this particular Packers game in this example.

posted by jr on Jan 12, 2012 at 12:39:26 am     #  

I watched every Patriots game this year despite 80% of them not being broadcast locally.

All are easily available on the net live and in real time. Canadians and some Europeans stream all the games.

Screw the blackout rules :)

posted by Star56 on Jan 12, 2012 at 01:08:32 am     #   1 person liked this

I watch most of my sports on internet for free. I'm seriously considering cancelling cable altogether. With a simple monitor cord, I can use my tv as a computer monitor and watch the shows on the big screen.

posted by hockeyfan on Jan 12, 2012 at 01:26:30 am     #   3 people liked this

I realize that people complain to the TV stations when the station has no control over the game schedule, but do the complaints help the station to provide feedback to the NFL? In Mom2's example from WTOL, can WTOL take all the negative comments and forward them to the NFL decision-makers? Does that do any good?

posted by MaggieThurber on Jan 12, 2012 at 08:23:02 am     #  

In Mom2's example from WTOL, can WTOL take all the negative comments and forward them to the NFL decision-makers? Does that do any good?

In a word, no.

WTOL is doing nothing wrong. They are a CBS affiliate, meaning they carry CBS NFL package--which is generally only for AFC games, not NFC (inter-conference games are worked out prior to the season). Because Joe 'n' Judy Cheeseballanbrats can't figure out the business arrangement isn't WTOL's, CBS's, or the NFL's problem.

If you want to guarantee yourself the game you want to watch, dig deep and pay for NFL Sunday Ticket (or similar) and get all the games. That's why it's available.

posted by oldhometown on Jan 12, 2012 at 11:11:21 am     #  

In terms of blackouts, this was just posted:

http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2012/db0112/DA-12-44A1.pdf

posted by Spaceace on Jan 12, 2012 at 01:44:37 pm     #  

Regarding the NFL the TV contract, for the Sunday afternoon games, all that matters is the 'Road' Team. CBS will carrier all games, if the AFC is considered the 'Road' team, and FOX will carrier all NFC 'Road' games. The home team doesn't matter.

Thus: Since Detroit is a NFC team, and Browns are a AFC team. IF Detroit Plays in Cleveland, then the game would be on FOX. if Cleveland goes to Ford Field, then it would be a CBS game. Now, when Pittsburgh goes to Cleveland, then it would be considered a CBS game, because Pittsburgh is in the AFC.

posted by drunkenwildmage on Jan 12, 2012 at 02:30:34 pm     #  

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