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Meat Market w/Two Week Old Meat

According to WTOL, they're doing some sort of meat-expose on the 5 PM news tonight. I wonder what meat market it is. I know which one it LOOKS like, but...

created by gamegrrl on Mar 20, 2012 at 04:56:56 pm     Food     Comments: 28

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Egahds! Gross!

posted by upso on Mar 20, 2012 at 05:03:55 pm     #  

Sigh. It would not surprise me it it's a newer one near me on the North End. I want to give them unsolicited marketing advice (they could do really well if they would just advertise, and advertise the right way) but something tells me it wouldn't be welcomed.

posted by WalleyeWinger on Mar 20, 2012 at 05:10:35 pm     #  

I remember growing up my dad was a meat cutter and would bring home outdated meat, it was good. I seem to remember some places advertising "aged" beef. In today's phobic society and modern beef packaging world with a lawsuit waiting for a scent of money its no surprise expiration dates scare folks.

posted by Linecrosser on Mar 20, 2012 at 07:22:23 pm     #  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_aging

posted by Linecrosser on Mar 20, 2012 at 07:26:39 pm     #  

Meat today is different than meat from back in the day with all the added hormones and antibiotics. Plus who knows how long/far it traveled to get to the store

posted by steve155 on Mar 20, 2012 at 07:38:21 pm     #  

Its not the chemicals, its the fact that its all sliced at a factory. In my dad's day they got sides of beef they had to cut you could hand a whole side to age, everything today come prepackaged just have to slap on prices, heck I've even hear some just need expiration date labels and put in counter.

posted by Linecrosser on Mar 20, 2012 at 07:46:58 pm     #   1 person liked this

hand=hang

posted by Linecrosser on Mar 20, 2012 at 07:47:18 pm     #  

Well phooey. I missed it. Anyone happen to catch it?

posted by gamegrrl on Mar 20, 2012 at 08:00:32 pm     #  

Found it:
http://www.wtol.com/story/17204711/restaurant-ratings-old-meat-mold-and-more

posted by gamegrrl on Mar 20, 2012 at 08:02:26 pm     #  

whoa

posted by nana on Mar 20, 2012 at 08:28:30 pm     #  

Would somebody give us a description of the place and offense? The WTOL website is too slow to download on my computer. But it sounds like this info was based on the county restaurant inspections -- the same ones printed in the Blade -?

posted by viola on Mar 20, 2012 at 08:31:14 pm     #  

I think it was the same place as the Cash Mob.

posted by hockeyfan on Mar 20, 2012 at 08:39:43 pm     #  

They mention the Kroger in Oregon (where I shop) have seen things marked as clearance meat... seriously. Doesn't negate the good meat they have there but I do check dates, smell and color of the meat. Which sadly still isn't a good indicator given dyes and such.

Then again meat is to darn expensive I tend to only buy those huge bags of frozen chick breasts, occasionally a roast when it's buy one get one free then make a huge pot of stew for the week.

If I really want some brats or a steak to grill and have some nickles saved I head to House of Meats on Starr Ave.

posted by INeedCoffee on Mar 20, 2012 at 08:45:44 pm     #  

Btw didn't try and single out Kroger, the article mentions a lot of places this is just the only place I've been.

posted by INeedCoffee on Mar 20, 2012 at 08:47:25 pm     #  

The crap you get at Walmart is all pre-cut at a factory because the butchers at one Supercenter unionized and immediately thereafter Walmart fired all meat-cutters and went to pre-cut, pre-packaged shit packaged under carbon monoxide (yeah, the same stuff in car exhaust) so it takes longer to turn color. And of course that means there's nobody there who really pays attention to the meat since there's not really a "responsible person" for that department or anyone who cut and packaged anything and knows what's been sitting in a case for a week.

I just wish I had a huge deep freezer and the ability to go find me a tasty cow and pig to have butchered up.

posted by anonymouscoward on Mar 20, 2012 at 10:57:02 pm     #  

INeedCoffee posted at 08:45:44 PM on Mar 20, 2012:

They mention the Kroger in Oregon (where I shop) have seen things marked as clearance meat... seriously. Doesn't negate the good meat they have there but I do check dates, smell and color of the meat. Which sadly still isn't a good indicator given dyes and such.

Then again meat is to darn expensive I tend to only buy those huge bags of frozen chick breasts, occasionally a roast when it's buy one get one free then make a huge pot of stew for the week.

If I really want some brats or a steak to grill and have some nickles saved I head to House of Meats on Starr Ave.

Cow is expensive because drought in Texas caused the moos to starve and the moo-farmers to sell off their moos... now it'll be ~3 years before cow prices get back to normal as they have to have lots of baby cows. On top of which feed prices are high because some idiots in Washington are giving out corporate welfare (subsidies) to ADM and others to grow corn and turn it into ethanol instead of growing corn and other stuff for eating by people and animals. Add in high energy prices and some of the authoritarian shit coming out of BOTH political parties and soon we will be seeing Soylent Green on shelves.

posted by anonymouscoward on Mar 20, 2012 at 11:02:37 pm     #  

Here, Viola. Meats and More was the site of the first Cash Mob, I was there. Got mostly packaged stuff and bread, a couple knockers and casing franks, and hamburger that I froze right away. Hope it's ok when I thaw it out. :(

TOLEDO, OH (WTOL) Area restaurants and markets had some pretty serious violations this week, such as mold and expired meat.

On February 22 at Meats and More on Heatherdowns, inspectors found outdated stickers on meats that were more than 10 and 14 days old. The owners were told to discard the meat, and not to reuse it as steaks or hamburgers.

The Kroger store in Oregon and the Stop and Go on Airport Highway also were in violation of selling old meat.

Both the Erie Food Mart on Galena and the Family Food Center on North Detroit had expired baby food.

On March 2, inspectors told the owners of Woodchuck's Bar and Grill in downtown Toledo to get rid of the mold growing inside the ice machine.

This is one of 5 restaurants where inspectors cited mold to be a problem, and all of the mold was found in the ice machines. The other restaurants with this problem are the Starbucks located in the Oregon Kroger, Marilyn's on Monroe, Goody's Sports Nut Saloon and Lenny's Bar on Airport Highway.

The China Palace on Glendale was cited for giving misinformation to customers, and not stating what was actually on the menu. The owner would not comment on the violations, but the inspector's report indicates imitation fish-based scallops are being used for scallop dishes on the menu.

Inspectors noted the insect killer Raid behind the counter at Tim and Ed's Bar and Grill in north Toledo, and listed it as a critical violation. The bartender told WTOL that the Raid had been temporarily placed behind the bar on accident due to problems with a wasp's nest.

The businesses without violations were Korea Na on South Reynolds, Mr Gyro's and more on Airport Highway, the Subway located on South Byrne, The Pizza Hut in the 3000 block of Glendale, and Ideal Hot Dog on Heatherdowns.

Copyright 2012 WTOL. All rights reserved.

posted by nana on Mar 20, 2012 at 11:13:21 pm     #  

I just wish I had a huge deep freezer and the ability to go find me a tasty cow and pig to have butchered up.

Does anyone have recommendations on local farms that would be good to seek out for that sort of thing?

I do have a deep freezer, and have contemplated just getting meat straight from the farm.

posted by mom2 on Mar 21, 2012 at 08:38:58 am     #  

mom2 posted at 08:38:58 AM on Mar 21, 2012:

I just wish I had a huge deep freezer and the ability to go find me a tasty cow and pig to have butchered up.

Does anyone have recommendations on local farms that would be good to seek out for that sort of thing?

I do have a deep freezer, and have contemplated just getting meat straight from the farm.

At our local farmers markets, we like to buy cheese that is made by Canal Junction, which is located near Defiance, Ohio.

Canal Junction also sells meat in bulk, but obviously not at farmers markets. From their website:

Here at C/J Natural Meats we offer our beef, pork and lamb by the bulk as described below.

Beef
Front Quarter - $2.70/lb
Half or Whole - $2.80/lb
Hind Quarter - $2.90/lb
An average hanging weight on a half is going to be about 250 lbs.

Pork
Half or Whole - $2.00/lb
An average hanging weight on a half of hog is going to be about 75-85 lbs.

Lamb
Whole - $5.50/lb
An average hanging weight on a lamb is going to be about 40-50 lbs.

A little about Canal Junction:

We are a grass based, diversified livestock farm located in Northwest Ohio, along the Junction of the historic Miami Erie and Wabash Erie Canals. On our farm we produce and direct market grassfed beef, pork, chicken, lamb, turkeys, brown eggs, and raw milk cheeses. We are an environmentally friendly, family owned and operated small farm.

posted by jr on Mar 21, 2012 at 09:16:37 am     #  

personally, I found the report to be making a mountain out of a molehill.

posted by hockeyfan on Mar 21, 2012 at 09:25:23 am     #   1 person liked this

mom2...we've purchased bulk meats from Tank's in Elmore. We split a pig with friends a couple times a few years ago. Really filled our freezer!

http://www.tanksmeats.com/index.php

posted by karen on Mar 21, 2012 at 09:34:01 am     #   1 person liked this

We've been looking at going straight to the source for meat and produce, as well. Here's a page I've been poking around on lately:
http://home.roadrunner.com/~krisjohnson/Kris/LocalFoodSources.htm

Chest freezer: Check. FoodSaver: Check.

Yum.

posted by gamegrrl on Mar 21, 2012 at 01:05:37 pm     #  

We get our beef from a father/son operation at the farmer's market. It's all frozen, you can order any quantity or just buy small amounts.

There is a tremendous difference in flavor: our steaks and burgers at home are now noticeably better than what we can get at many restaurants.

By summertime there are usually multiple meat people at the markets, both downtown Toledo and Perrysburg. I am happy to give my cash directly to the people who raised the animal and supervised its processing.

posted by viola on Mar 21, 2012 at 03:36:54 pm     #  

If they have the Erie Street Market this summer they have the best farm fresh eggs. Not that much more than store bought but the yolk is delicious.

posted by INeedCoffee on Mar 21, 2012 at 05:35:17 pm     #   1 person liked this

my paleo kids are big into grass-fed meat but I can't stand the smell. It really is different than what we're used to, so try a couple cuts and some hamburger before you decide to buy a whole side, if you have never had grass-fed before. takes some getting used to but it IS better for you.

posted by nana on Mar 21, 2012 at 08:52:25 pm     #   1 person liked this

Nana, why did the kids go paleo? Are they getting the results they'd hoped for? I think about that often ... cruising the cookbooks. Then I reach for my cheese & crackers, LOL

posted by viola on Mar 21, 2012 at 08:58:49 pm     #  

My son is a CrossFit coach, paleo is the diet of choice for the intense workouts to get the best results, and yes, it works. It's easy to remember but hard to stick to, you really have to be on guard all the time in our carb-laden society:
meats and veggies
nuts and seeds
some fruit
little carb
no sugar
it's basically the Adkins diet. we lost 20 pounds our first month, but we back-slid. we really need to get more dedicated...we still make good choices just not all the time. :)

posted by nana on Mar 22, 2012 at 11:02:14 am     #  

Refined sugar (and the tremendous amount of it in most grocery store foods) is a true killer. I sucomb to Oreo and ice cream cravings, but when I look at the breakfast cereals I used to eat.....oooooohhhhhhh....

Not sure if I could go all "paleo". I love meat...steaks, pork, etc., but I don't think it would be great for my cholesterol to go headlong into it...even with workouts.

P90X diet was pretty balanced and slayed my total number from 217-150 in 12 weeks...not eating all meat, but not eating all greens and tofu either.

I guess it's all in what works for you.

posted by oldhometown on Mar 22, 2012 at 11:43:19 am     #