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Help bring bike sharing to Toledo!

repost from facebook:

Just put your zip in the form field and hit GO.
http://www.bcycle.com/whowantsitmore.aspx

created by toledolen_ on Apr 04, 2012 at 10:10:19 pm     Other     Comments: 95

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voted!!!!!

posted by upso on Apr 04, 2012 at 10:26:04 pm     #  

Every bike pictured on the site are girls bikes? I'm not riding no girls bike! Even in the burbs I'd get hazed.

Seriously though - I like the concept, will review further and check and vote if it sways me.

posted by Danneskjold on Apr 04, 2012 at 10:42:51 pm     #  

not girls bikes. unisex bikes. :)

posted by upso on Apr 04, 2012 at 10:52:07 pm     #  

file this right beside "beta tapes" in the good idea file.

posted by hockeyfan on Apr 04, 2012 at 11:29:01 pm     #  

seems to work "good" in boston, nyc, minneapolis, denver, dc, etc.....

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 05, 2012 at 12:13:27 am     #   1 person liked this

We just got it down here for downtown workers to use on their lunch breaks and such. Seems to be a big hit. Could work in Toledo but a lot of work needs to go in to rebuilding he central business district.

posted by JustaSooner on Apr 05, 2012 at 12:18:36 am     #   1 person liked this

hockeyfan posted at 11:29:01 PM on Apr 04, 2012:

file this right beside "beta tapes" in the good idea file.

So you agree it's a good idea because Betamax was a better technology than VHS. Consumers don't always choose the best.

posted by jr on Apr 05, 2012 at 01:55:47 am     #   1 person liked this

Voted!

posted by Brewster on Apr 05, 2012 at 07:20:56 am     #  

hmm...not sure about this. When I was in Minneapolis, the majority of bikes were just sitting there not being used. A relative who lives there says they're rarely used except in the summer months and then not so much. Weather plays a major role in the lack of usage.

Is this a private company that does the program or the government?

posted by MaggieThurber on Apr 05, 2012 at 07:46:30 am     #  

private. http://www.bcycle.com/howitworks.aspx

posted by upso on Apr 05, 2012 at 08:09:44 am     #   2 people liked this

Voted. Often.

posted by historymike on Apr 05, 2012 at 09:01:06 am     #   2 people liked this

I don't see how anyone could be opposed to a private investment that comes from outside the city in an area that is arguably infrastructure. If they run the numbers, and think their business model will work here, maybe it will happen. It would probably get the city to think more bike-centric when planning improvements.

As long as they don't receive a huge number of incentives from our local government, I say why not? Even if they only give it a shot for a couple of years (assuming they can't make it work here), they will be leasing local land, likely be employing a few locals, and paying some taxes. They would be serving a market that is severely under serviced, and give TARTA a little reason to improve their numbers/services.

Here is a starter list at where I think they should go:
-5/3 Field/Huntington Center
-The Docks
-Adams street near the Attic
-The Art Museum

Following that maybe they could expand to bigger grocers and high density residential areas in the burbs.

Lastly, do I have to remind anyone about this?

http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2012/04/04/Lucas-County-again-ranked-72nd-in-state.html

posted by brainswell on Apr 05, 2012 at 09:19:24 am     #   1 person liked this

"Every bike pictured on the site are girls bikes? I'm not riding no girls bike! Even in the burbs I'd get hazed."

This is so cool it's worth looking dorky, ur um, dorkier!

posted by Offshore on Apr 05, 2012 at 09:41:18 am     #  

C'mon, people. Stop hating on this idea. Don't like it? Then keep driving your cars. Like it? Then go for it. Absolutely no harm can come from trying this (aside from whatever "harm" may arise from jarring people from the rut of reacting to any new idea with the "we've never done this, it'll never work here" response).

Smile, everyone! A new idea won't bite!

posted by luvtoledo on Apr 05, 2012 at 09:47:19 am     #   4 people liked this

From what I see, the majority here seems to favor the idea.

posted by Offshore on Apr 05, 2012 at 09:50:45 am     #   1 person liked this

Don't like it? Then keep driving your cars.

I wouldn't use the service, because I already have my own bike to ride on occasions where I'd be inclined to ride a bike. (And if my bike wasn't with me, then I'd probably choose walking vs. paying for a rental.)

However, if a private enterprise wants to try the idea without taxpayer funding, I have no objection to that.

posted by mom2 on Apr 05, 2012 at 09:57:44 am     #  

We were in 56th place when I voted. Somehow Fargo is in first place - how often could they possibly use this in Fargo? 4, maybe 5 months out of the year?

posted by idinspired on Apr 05, 2012 at 10:01:31 am     #   2 people liked this

...how often could they possibly use this in Fargo?

No doubt the Dakotas get extreme weather. Most people think "cold", but I went driving & camping through the Plains and the West one July and it was 105 degrees at our campground outside of Rapid city. You gotta be a hardy soul to live there...-30 in the winter and 105 in the summer!

But back on the biking point: it really depends upon motivation. Apparently, the folks there don't see the weather as a barrier to biking, whereas many times here in Toledo people bitch if they can't find a parking spot within 75 feet of the front door of a place.

My wife lived for a time in Copenhagen, Denmark, and they had a similar program (although theirs is a government operation). I visited in October and February and we rode the bikes each time. As long as you dress for it, it's not a big deal...granted biking is a much bigger part of the culture there than here.

If a private company is sticking its neck out to try and get Toledoans off their collective fat asses and see their city up close (instead of through a car window), let 'em try. I hope they succeed.

Just my .02...

posted by oldhometown on Apr 05, 2012 at 10:27:19 am     #   1 person liked this

Maybe golf cart sharing would be a better idea for Toledo

posted by SavageFred on Apr 05, 2012 at 10:31:14 am     #   1 person liked this

"Every bike pictured on the site are girls bikes? I'm not riding no girls bike! Even in the burbs I'd get hazed."

Did you ever wonder why boys bikes had that bar there where it provides the "opportunity" to strike a very sensitive portion of the male anatomy?
Seems like it should be the other way around. :P

posted by JeepMaker on Apr 05, 2012 at 10:42:42 am     #  

I totally agree with the positivity around this. Even if you don't intend to use it, why not support it for those who will? It adds to the urban activity in our downtown, and who could be against that? And anyone who already has a bike still has a vested interest in this - the more biking-oriented things that get supported by Toledo, the more bike friendly the city will become, thus benefiting anyone who has an interest in biking!

posted by Johio83 on Apr 05, 2012 at 11:16:34 am     #   1 person liked this

Also, historymike is right. There doesn't seem to be a voting limit. I just keep bouncing back and forth between the "go" prompts, and that number just keeps climbing!

posted by Johio83 on Apr 05, 2012 at 11:17:35 am     #  

Voted 15 times myself!

posted by dbw8906 on Apr 05, 2012 at 11:37:44 am     #  

Heh - I singlehandedly (singleclickedly?) moved Toledo from 81st to 59th earlier.

posted by historymike on Apr 05, 2012 at 11:39:38 am     #  

OK: me and (ahem) a bunch of my pals just voted Toledo up to #39. C'mon, people: #1...#1...#1...

posted by historymike on Apr 05, 2012 at 11:42:31 am     #  

For the record, I'm not opposed to this, but I wonder about it. Wondering is not the same as opposing.

I wonder how many people will actually use it. It seems to be geared to locations where you have a high population of individuals living/working in a compact area (primarily the downtown portion of a city). That doesn't seem to fit Toledo.

Because of that aspect, originally I wondered about the profitability of such a venture in our climate. But since I've learned it's a private venture and not a government one, I'm no longer concerned about that.

And despite my wondering, I did vote.

posted by MaggieThurber on Apr 05, 2012 at 12:15:58 pm     #  

Even from a purely recreational point of view, I was thinking it would be fun to come Downtown, grab a couple of bikes and cruise the attractions.

posted by Offshore on Apr 05, 2012 at 12:31:27 pm     #   2 people liked this

Do we have to prove that the 2007 Robert Russ Pedal Boats in the Maumee Epiphany was a huge hit before they let us have bike sharing? I hope not.

posted by justread on Apr 05, 2012 at 12:31:56 pm     #   1 person liked this

It's hovering at 39... still putting out the call for votes from friends/facebook.

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 05, 2012 at 12:41:13 pm     #  

  1. 37! we

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 05, 2012 at 12:51:13 pm     #  

ack. let me try that again...

37! weeeeeee

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 05, 2012 at 12:51:46 pm     #  

^^^^Pure adrenalin!^^

posted by Offshore on Apr 05, 2012 at 12:54:50 pm     #  

34....do you believe?

posted by historymike on Apr 05, 2012 at 01:00:54 pm     #  

30!!!!!!!!!!

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 05, 2012 at 01:10:06 pm     #  

29!!!!!

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 05, 2012 at 01:12:42 pm     #  

You know (true story) as I boosted Toledo to number 27 the song "Lithium" by Nirvana came on the iPod. Kind of surreal.

posted by historymike on Apr 05, 2012 at 01:18:39 pm     #  

19 !!!!???

This is crayzy

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 05, 2012 at 01:21:40 pm     #   1 person liked this

Fargo is leading with 225,000 votes. Toledo has 3,346. Good luck guys!

posted by HickoryG on Apr 05, 2012 at 02:21:14 pm     #  

^ Buzzkiller. :-)

posted by historymike on Apr 05, 2012 at 02:36:13 pm     #  

By the way: up to #14 now.

posted by historymike on Apr 05, 2012 at 02:37:05 pm     #  

Is this actually a "vote to win" contest, or just some sort of attention-getter to draw views to their website/concept?

(Just thinking that a private business would likely still research the business opportunity in the area and make decisions accordingly, rather than going by votes on a website that allows people to vote multiple times in a row? Unless there was a specific contest involved.)

posted by mom2 on Apr 05, 2012 at 02:38:10 pm     #  

Interesting marketing and feasibility strat!

posted by Offshore on Apr 05, 2012 at 02:40:45 pm     #  

Certainly if nothing else, a lot of votes might get a city considered that wouldn't otherwise have been looked at.

posted by mom2 on Apr 05, 2012 at 02:43:53 pm     #   1 person liked this

BTW - like maggie, I just had some questions and was wondering about the concept. Not being negative.

I'm not anti-biking...in fact, once the kids are out of school for the summer, I plan to commute by bike downtown for work at least 2 days a week from Sylvania.

(Have to wait until school is out due to the timing - I'd never be able to get the kids off to school and still have enough time to ride my bike to work.)

posted by mom2 on Apr 05, 2012 at 02:50:49 pm     #  

<deadpan alert>

Why, every vote counts, mom2! Each and every vote is tabulated by a team of hardworking elves (on loan from the North Pole in the off-season). In fact, as we speak I am sure B-Cycle execs are sitting around the board room, smoking expensive cigars and marvelling at the rapid climb Toledo is making in the rankings.

posted by historymike on Apr 05, 2012 at 02:52:31 pm     #   1 person liked this

13th place now. Go Toledo: keep clicking!

posted by historymike on Apr 05, 2012 at 02:55:39 pm     #  

12th place!

posted by historymike on Apr 05, 2012 at 03:03:16 pm     #  

This goes a lot faster once you realize you don't even have to go back and forth between the two "go"s. Just keep clicking the one next to the ZIP code.

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 05, 2012 at 03:09:10 pm     #  

This goes a lot faster once you realize you don't even have to go back and forth between the two "go"s. Just keep clicking the one next to the ZIP code.

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 05, 2012 at 03:09:11 pm     #   1 person liked this

and you know why i posted twice right?

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 05, 2012 at 03:09:27 pm     #   1 person liked this

Because it's twice as fast?

posted by mom2 on Apr 05, 2012 at 03:11:40 pm     #  

we're number 10!!!!!!!!

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 05, 2012 at 03:22:26 pm     #  

We may not win, but I got to be vote number 12,000; yes, it has been a rather dull day otherwise when this is a highlight:

B cycle

Twelve thousand, I should add, is OVER 9000!!! (/b/tards will get this)

posted by historymike on Apr 05, 2012 at 03:53:21 pm     #  

Number 9....nuber 9...number 9.... (White Album reference that I have been waiting an hour to post)

posted by historymike on Apr 05, 2012 at 03:54:39 pm     #   1 person liked this

ARG! Waited that long and typo-ed it.

posted by historymike on Apr 05, 2012 at 03:55:02 pm     #  

26k clicks would put us in 5th place.

Fun fact - according to Wikipedia, Fargo's current as of 2010 was 105,549. The entire metropolitan population totals 208,777. They currently have over 225,000 clicks. Somebody there loves to click.

posted by idinspired on Apr 05, 2012 at 04:10:31 pm     #  

insert "double-clicking the mouse" joke here

posted by mom2 on Apr 05, 2012 at 04:13:58 pm     #  

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 05, 2012 at 04:15:46 pm     #  

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 05, 2012 at 05:01:30 pm     #  

posted by Linecrosser on Apr 05, 2012 at 07:43:36 pm     #  

July 7, 2011 story Fargo’s #1 position in B-Cycle online competition brings bike share demonstration to town

Just spoke to the B-Cycle system coordinator, they’ll be sending their traveling demonstration team and bringing a few bikes and solar powered docking stations to Fargo to demonstrate the bike share system in early September!

Denver was the first site for this private, non-profit, bike sharing program. Now Minneapolis has the most bikes and stations in the country. Other cities with four seasons such as Madison Wisconsin, and Des Moines, Iowa also have the bike share system in place. They do shut down in the winter, even in Denver.

The stations are solar powered and use a membership card system to access a bike. It’s not meant as a bike rental system, it’s programmed to help folks get from place to place and dock it when you arrive.


How much does B-cycle cost?

Usage fees are charged based on the length of each ride taken by a member, and are typically broken down into half-hour increments. In most systems, the first half-hour is free and usage fees are only assessed for rides that exceed 30 minutes.


September 2011 YouTube video 'B-Cycle' visits Fargo

posted by jr on Apr 05, 2012 at 08:21:34 pm     #   1 person liked this

Fifth place is secure, and Toledo is making inroads on the top four cities. Toledo just crossed the 100,000 click mark, and almost all of those came in one day.

Keep clicking, clickaholics!

posted by historymike on Apr 06, 2012 at 12:11:17 pm     #  

remember when we had only 3,000 or so? the good old days.

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 06, 2012 at 03:04:44 pm     #   1 person liked this

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 06, 2012 at 03:43:35 pm     #   1 person liked this

Cleveland (#3): you are about to get passed up. Prepare yourselves for the Toledo Express.

posted by historymike on Apr 06, 2012 at 05:06:34 pm     #  

Sweet! Toledo is now #3!!!!

posted by historymike on Apr 06, 2012 at 05:08:17 pm     #  

Toledo is now (10:38pm) #2 with 196,490 votes. Fargo is #1 with 225,490!

posted by GTVT on Apr 06, 2012 at 10:39:41 pm     #  

#2!!!

posted by Johio83 on Apr 06, 2012 at 10:40:04 pm     #  

  1. Fargo - 225,490
  2. Toledo - 196,187

posted by jr on Apr 06, 2012 at 10:40:45 pm     #  

Oops. We checked for updates at the same time.

posted by jr on Apr 06, 2012 at 10:42:26 pm     #  

No problem,

I've been clicking away while watching TV. Started clicking when it was in the 148's. If anyone else is clicking away, you have to do a refresh (or browse a different website) every once in a while to see numbers jump up significantly, seems like the server is having a hard time keeping up without refreshing, but each click (even fast clicking) IS being counted.

posted by GTVT on Apr 06, 2012 at 11:17:36 pm     #  

This is just another reminder of how effing awesome pro-Toledo people are.

The naysayers can suck it. We may or may not get the bike share, but damn we love the idea and have let it known.

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 07, 2012 at 12:22:26 am     #   1 person liked this

Fargo will be eating our dust before too long...

posted by gamegrrl on Apr 07, 2012 at 12:34:09 am     #  

yessssssss

posted by upso on Apr 07, 2012 at 12:40:19 am     #  

As of 2:57am Toledo is officially #1 with 225,582, and it will take the website another 30 minutes to process the uncounted clicks.

posted by GTVT on Apr 07, 2012 at 03:01:06 am     #   1 person liked this

I quit clicking at 3am, waiting for it to catch up, I checked again at 3:30am, and we are up to 228,749 Fargo still at 225,490. They must be lacking an insomniac.

posted by GTVT on Apr 07, 2012 at 03:35:28 am     #  

This, friends, is pretty cool:

bcycle

posted by historymike on Apr 07, 2012 at 07:41:24 am     #  

Nice work kids, now go outside and play!

posted by HickoryG on Apr 07, 2012 at 08:47:17 am     #   1 person liked this

HickoryG posted at 08:47:17 AM on Apr 07, 2012:

Nice work kids, now go outside and play!

Do NOT enjoy the nice spring weather because that kind of complacency led to Fargo being overtaken. Fargo had been #1 since last July, but in only two or three days, Toledo assumed the top perch. The goal should now be one million votes.

posted by jr on Apr 07, 2012 at 10:12:31 am     #   2 people liked this

Just voted & it still shows Toledo is # 1 - Woo Hoo !!!

posted by shamrock44 on Apr 07, 2012 at 10:17:59 am     #   1 person liked this

Where are all of you at election time?

posted by justareviewer on Apr 07, 2012 at 10:46:21 am     #  

I'm pretty sure they don't let you use auto-clickers at the polls.

posted by gamegrrl on Apr 07, 2012 at 10:52:33 am     #  

I'm pretty sure they don't let you use auto-clickers at the polls.

You wonder...considering who gets elected in this town.

Congratulations on this grass-roots effort. Go for the million!

posted by oldhometown on Apr 07, 2012 at 12:49:58 pm     #  

Well between 3:53pm on Thursday and 7:41am on Saturday, we jumped from 12,000 to 250,000... so a million should only take us until, what, the end of the week??

posted by Johio83 on Apr 07, 2012 at 04:17:30 pm     #  

We can't stop at a million. It's a billion we must aim for.

posted by upso on Apr 07, 2012 at 07:47:32 pm     #   2 people liked this

If we can have more clicks than there are humans on earth, will that get us some bikes?

posted by Johio83 on Apr 07, 2012 at 08:30:43 pm     #  

It can't hurt!!!

posted by upso on Apr 07, 2012 at 08:32:34 pm     #  

Toledo is still #1 at 295,166.

posted by jr on Apr 13, 2012 at 12:16:06 am     #   1 person liked this

Well, this will surely get me some flack - but - No!!Way!! First get bicycle lanes, then get bicycles. I hate getting stuck behind some dude in spandex with a little mirror clapmed to the side of his head when passing him might mean pushing him to the rutted and unsafe berm. I disdane all bicyclists who tie up traffic.

posted by holland on Apr 14, 2012 at 11:46:15 am     #  

Good grief

posted by upso on Apr 14, 2012 at 11:58:51 am     #   5 people liked this

Well before people jump up and down on holland's head, let's just lay out the plain fact that a lot of the intense "Lance Armstrong-wannabees" with their spandex and aero helmets and $3-5,000 bikes are also some of the biggest assholes and road-rulebreakers around. And I say this as a fairly avid casual biker myself.

Can you ride 2-3 abreast down a road? No, but they often do because their conversation is more important than automobile traffic. Apparently to these twerps, "share the road" means "we'll just do whatever we want and if you get pissed, too bad." Ride single file all the time, idiots...

Can you run a red light on a bike? No, but they often do because they're "in training" and who's going to stop them?

What can happen if you run a red light, even on a bicycle? Here's a recent example:

Elderly Pedestrian Killed by Bicyclist in Downtown Honolulu

...and file this story under "Bicyclist Douchebag Extreme"...

Cyclist Who Killed Pedestrian Allegedly Eulogized His Helmet

A San Francisco cyclist who struck a 71-year-old pedestrian -- who later died from his injuries -- may have typed himself into even more trouble. Chris Bucchere allegedly wrote a same-day post on the Mission Cycling AM Riders forum in which he admitted to "[plowing] through the crowded crosswalk." Then, in a move that seems both brainless and heartless, Bucchere dedicated the post to his helmet. "She died in heroic fashion today," he wrote. "May she die knowing that because she committed the ultimate sacrifice, her rider can live on."

Should you dart in and out of traffic lanes on a bicycle (or move from the bike lane and ride UP the center of traffic on a busy road? Not illegal, but not the smartest thing in the world either. Freaks me out.

Please note that I love bikes and biking in general. What we are going for here with this opportunity, I think, are more casual riders who want to have fun, not these spandexed douches who wanna "be like Lance" (complete with one testicle). Someone thinks there is a market for this bicycle service and I would at least like to see if it is correct--since its not taxpayer funded.

posted by oldhometown on Apr 14, 2012 at 12:44:13 pm     #  

"First get bicycle lanes, then get bicycles."

I agree.

Toledo needs bike lanes and not just bike paths. But I guess we're not that kind of city. You can tell by all the major road construction projects that were completed on Toledo streets over the past 5 to 10 years. How many miles of bike lanes were added? My guess is zero. Does a lot of government red tape exist when attempting to add a bike lane? A bunch of committees and studies are probably required.

Where are the bike lanes in Toledo? I think a bike lane exists on some road south of Alexis near the race track. Outside Toledo, a bike lane exists along Starr Ave in Oregon and along Sylvania Ave near McCord in Sylvania. Minuscule.

posted by jr on Apr 14, 2012 at 03:44:09 pm     #  

History of the Red Bike Project

The Red Bike Project has been sustainable and successful since its launch on May 1st, 1996. Budget Bicycle Center will continue to manage and maintain the Red Bike Project for years to come. Before Red Bikes go out for the season each one is tuned-up and thoroughly checked over for safety (reflectors and tightness, etc.) and then test ridden. (Budget Bicycle Center fixes all things wrong with the bicycles free of charge, year round.)

When I lived in Mad City I met the folks at Budget Bike and learned about the red bike project. They've got several other projects that are pretty cool and involve community service.

You can ride your bike just about anywhere you'd like to go in Mad City with very few exceptions. The place is bicycle friendly and they publish maps of bike paths and common bike routes. All that said, you still have to be careful. I got hit and knocked off my bike by some lady who failed to look where she was going. Another time I came within an ace of being "doored" - you'll be riding past a line of parked cars on the street and some moron opens his door right in front of you. Your bike stops at the door; you sail right on over.

I'd like to see Sylvania become bicycle friendly, but it isn't likely to happen. It sure won't happen in Toledo.

posted by madjack on Apr 14, 2012 at 05:08:39 pm     #  

http://www.good.is/post/if-you-build-bike-lanes-they-will-ride/

"Science has verified something that may appear obvious at first glance: The direct connection between the presence of bike lanes and the number of bike commuters. The more infrastructure exists to encourage biking, the more people bike—and the more society reaps the public health, energy, and lifestyle benefits that come with an increasing share of people-powered transportation."

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 18, 2012 at 09:11:26 pm     #   1 person liked this

Still going strong, Toledo is still #1. Been trying to vote a little each day.

posted by INeedCoffee on Apr 24, 2012 at 10:18:05 pm     #  

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