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NYC to ban sugary drinks over 16 oz

This is ridiculous. Is he going to post guards with machine guns next to the soda fountains to keep people from getting re-fills?

created by dell_diva on May 31, 2012 at 09:13:45 am     Politics     Comments: 19

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Some people think they can live your life better than you can.

Even the best idea in the world should not have the force of law.

posted by WhatThe on May 31, 2012 at 09:30:21 am     #   4 people liked this

Bloomberg is a Moonbat, and like all Moonbats he's all about control. Bloomberg really does believe he can live your life better than you can. The only surprise here is the item he's regulating. I'd have thought he'd begin by removing the candy counter, or putting it behind glass and requiring ID and a purchase limit - similar to the OTC cold remedies that we, the Great Unwashed, used to be able to buy.

posted by madjack on May 31, 2012 at 09:47:07 am     #   3 people liked this

MSNBC Host: NYC Big Soda Ban A 'Great Idea'

Please note...with absolutely no irony whatsoever...the gigantic Starbucks coffee--presumably loaded with caffeine and/or sweeteners--the morning show host is drinking.

Good intentions are not enough to justify continued intrusion on personal matters. John Stuart Mill would be appalled at the acquiescence of liberty currently progressing in New York City (not to mention all the cameras in place in his hometown--London).

posted by oldhometown on May 31, 2012 at 10:05:43 am     #   3 people liked this

Silly plebeians Slurpies are for the Senators only.

People are fleeing NYC (and NY in general), their tax base is eroding, crime is rising, and the cost of city services are going up and the level of service is being slashed but we gotta get dem evil sodas. Remember when they say "but it's for the KIDS" bend over because you are getting ready to get pumped like a dock working lady of the night when it comes times for shore leave.

So what it really says if you want more than 16oz of soda you now have to buy two, the soda MFG'er are not going to complain because it now means they move more product. Look I HATE soda and I often wonder how people can love it so much but just don't understand how this can be on the top of the "to do list" for NYC.

posted by dbw8906 on May 31, 2012 at 10:10:38 am     #  

When supersized sodas are outlawed, only outlaws will have supersized drinks.

posted by max on May 31, 2012 at 10:21:46 am     #   4 people liked this

...don't understand how this can be on the top of the "to do list" for NYC.

Easy. It keeps the general public from thinking about the things that are really going wrong with NYC.

posted by madjack on May 31, 2012 at 10:30:01 am     #  

To give you an idea of how people who push "bans" think (at least in NYC), here's a pretty good example from just last month:

New York Post: Park Slope Parents Back Ban on Ice-Cream Trucks in Prospect Park to Avoid Screaming Kids

Overprotective Park Slope parents have declared war on a treasured rite of spring: an ice cream in the park.

The icy rebuke of the time-honored tradition erupted on the Park Slope Parents online group when one mother described her son’s meltdown in Prospect Park after she put the ixnay on a acksnay.

“Along with the first truly beautiful day of the year, my son and I had our first ruined day at the playground,” the poster named Sarah somberly recounted. “Two different people came into the actual playground with ice cream/Italian ice push carts. I was able to avoid it for a little while but eventually I left with a crying 4-year-old.”

Another angry mother, identified on the site as Dorothy Scanlan, chimed in.

“I should not have to fight with my children every warm day on the playground just so someone can make a living!” the poster wailed. “I too was at the 9th Street Playground on Monday, and one of the vendors just handed my 4-year-old an ice cream cone. I was furious.”

But Sarah Schenck says just say no to frozen confections.

Schenck, a mother of two and co-founder of the eco-friendly parentearth.com, said statistics back her up.

“Nobody wants to be a crank, but one in three kids are going to be obese or diabetic by high school,” she said. “When my kids see other kids get ice cream, they just start begging me. I just don’t think these are the fights we should be having.”

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Because YOU can't control YOUR kids...because YOU raised spoiled brats...because YOU can't teach them to eat right...because YOU failed and "Pwecious Angel Boy" is 220lbs at age 8...because YOU want to avoid YOUR kids temper tantrums....that means fun things and treats have to be banned for EVERYONE.

It's bullshit, plain and simple.

posted by oldhometown on May 31, 2012 at 02:23:29 pm     #   2 people liked this

Park Slope parents are a whole different breed.

They're the kind of parents who immediately put a newborn infant on preschool waiting lists, because little Junior's life will be over if he doesn't attend the right $30K a year preschool.

It's a whole different world in Park Slope. Yikes.

posted by mom2 on May 31, 2012 at 02:27:16 pm     #  

They can have my bladder buster soda fountain drink when they pry it from my cold dead hands.lol

And still we do not outlaw cigarettes, alcohol, or energy drinks.
Gee, how fast can I move to NY? Crazy.

posted by hockeyfan on May 31, 2012 at 03:39:46 pm     #  

Ban ice cream trucks? what the stupid parent can't learn to say no to their kids? I would ban them for the annoying music they play, drives me up the wall.

posted by Linecrosser on May 31, 2012 at 03:55:39 pm     #   1 person liked this

The stupid ones, maybe? When we were growing up Mom watched our diet very closely, but we were getting so much exercise that one ice cream a day wouldn't have mattered. We were thin from running around all day.

Mom also taught us not to argue. 'No' really did mean "No, not now and not later" and that was that. I can't understand why parents tolerate howls of frustration from their six year old because the world refuses to conform to the whim of a child.

posted by madjack on May 31, 2012 at 04:18:46 pm     #  

THIS BELONGS IN POLITICS THREAD.

posted by anonymouscoward on May 31, 2012 at 05:42:15 pm     #  

We do live in a free country.

Just because some mayor wants to pass some stupid law doesn't mean we're not a free country anymore.

Sunday liquor sales have been banned in several states for decades--and in some areas sales of alcohol are banned entirely. Marijuana is also banned. So is Sassafras oil, which they once used to make root beer (back when it actually had some flavor.) Up until less than a decade ago, some states still banned oral and anal sex (even between a married man and woman.)

I agree it's a silly bill...but if you were looking for evidence that we're not a free country anymore, you could have found similar evidence YEARS ago. It didn't start with Bloomberg, or Obama, or GWB. Petty crap like this has been with us for a long time.

It's hysteria all around: first, hysteria over cigarettes and soft drinks...then, hysteria over measures to control them and "infringements on our rights.''

What we could use is a little less hysteria and a little more common sense.

posted by Sohio on May 31, 2012 at 06:43:07 pm     #   3 people liked this

Anyone else think that if he had thought of it, Carty would have tried the same thing here?

posted by shamrock44 on Jun 01, 2012 at 09:37:31 am     #   1 person liked this

Unless Carty had some interest in the local distributer or bottler then yes I could see him doing it.

posted by Linecrosser on Jun 01, 2012 at 11:50:50 am     #  

I love how the ToledoTalk TeaTard brigade came out in force over this and references to jack-booted machine-gun toting thugs and "moonbats" abound.

When are you all going to fire up your outrage over the CONSERVATIVE-derived BLUE LAWS on alcohol sales? How about marijuana? Anyone remember how Prohibition got enacted?

I'll make you a deal: You set the drinking age back to 18, de-regulate the liquor industry (remove the distributor monopolies) and get the state out of the way (and DON'T just "privatize" it so that fuckhead Kasich and his buddies take it over like a Mafia don), remove the hours-of-sale bullshit, limits on percent of alcohol, etc. and everything but "honest sale" regulations (proper measure and not watered down/cut), and in exchange you can have super-size sodas, foie gras, the smoking ban repealed, and the so-called "assault" weapons ban permanently gone.

Deal?

posted by anonymouscoward on Jun 01, 2012 at 12:01:13 pm     #  

Let the deaf people live near the ice cream trucks.

posted by JohnnyMac on Jun 01, 2012 at 12:07:03 pm     #   3 people liked this

anonymouscoward posted at 12:01:13 PM on Jun 01, 2012:

I love how the ToledoTalk TeaTard brigade came out in force over this and references to jack-booted machine-gun toting thugs and "moonbats" abound.

When are you all going to fire up your outrage over the CONSERVATIVE-derived BLUE LAWS on alcohol sales? How about marijuana? Anyone remember how Prohibition got enacted?

I'll make you a deal: You set the drinking age back to 18, de-regulate the liquor industry (remove the distributor monopolies) and get the state out of the way (and DON'T just "privatize" it so that fuckhead Kasich and his buddies take it over like a Mafia don), remove the hours-of-sale bullshit, limits on percent of alcohol, etc. and everything but "honest sale" regulations (proper measure and not watered down/cut), and in exchange you can have super-size sodas, foie gras, the smoking ban repealed, and the so-called "assault" weapons ban permanently gone.

Deal?

I have no problems with any of that. Because I work funk-a-fied hours I'm often at the grocery store at between 2-5 am, would love to pick up a sixer while I'm there.

I would make that deal everyday and twice on Sunday.

posted by dbw8906 on Jun 01, 2012 at 01:29:34 pm     #  

Sodas' don't kill people, people kill people.

posted by Wulf on Jun 01, 2012 at 03:35:17 pm     #   1 person liked this

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