Since I am mathematically challenged, does anyone know what the City of Toledo charges for a gallon of water? The Rates page of their website states all charges in cubic feet. A net rate of 1,000 cubic feet with $13.33 being charged for the first 30,000 cubic feet, $12.95 for the next 450,000 cubic feet and so on. Reason I need to know is I am taking on the task this weekend of replacing the liner in my above ground pool and trying to decide if it is cheaper (albeit slower) to fill through my hose or have water hauled in. I have gotten quotes as low as $165 to as high as $250 for about 7,000 gallons. The pool is 18" in diameter and 48" deep. My brain is just not working the conversion between cubic feet and gallons. Guess I should have pain more attention in math class.
Cost of Toledo water
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According to this:
http://www.convertunits.com/from/gallon/to/cubic+feet
7,000 gallons is 935.7638888920001 cubic feet
And this Toledo page shows 7,000 gallons to equal out to $127.99 with water and sewer. Cheaper and easier to use the hose.
http://www.cityoftoledo.org/
posted by idinspired on May 31, 2012 at 03:11:28 pm #
Heck, with all the extra charges on the water bill, actual WATER is the least of the expense.
Fill 'er up. You're gonna have an outrageous water bill either way. Might as well have some water to show for it.
Thanks for the quick response Idinspired. However, that page is for Toledo, Oregon. Always wanted to go to Oregon...
posted by daddyg on May 31, 2012 at 03:35:50 pm # 1 person liked this
$13.33 per 1000 cubic feet for the first 30,000 cubic feet.
(plus sewer, old pipe fee, antiquated pump charge, trash tax, administrative incompetence fee, etc.)
Ha! I suppose I should look a little closer before linking!
posted by idinspired on May 31, 2012 at 03:48:02 pm #
What I love since they cant put a meter on a sewage line is they charge for sewage based on how much water you use, hence long hose use cranks up the sewage bill even though your not using the sewer for it.
posted by Linecrosser on May 31, 2012 at 03:57:46 pm #
It seems that my pool will hold around 7500 gallons of water. Using an on-line conversion tool, that equates to roughly 1,018 cubic feet of water. Given the net rate of 1,000 cubic feet costing $13.33 on the COT website, I can guess that I can budget $20.00 for water for my pool. Anyone wanna check my math or am I missing something?
oops your right, I just re-read your post. I was thinking 18ftx48ft (that's a monster!).
An 18ft diameter pool that is 48" deep would be 7,646 gallons.
http://www.backyardcitypools.com/Swimming-Pools/Pool-Volume-Calculate.htm
What I love since they cant put a meter on a sewage line is they charge for sewage based on how much water you use, hence long hose use cranks up the sewage bill even though your not using the sewer for it.
I hate them, but in all fairness, they use "winter averaging" to calculate sewage rates for the balance of the year. Don't water your lawn all winter, and it will be ok.
Get the special meter put on your hose if you fill by hose so they don't charge you the sewer use. Though I don't know if pools in general drain into the sanitary sewer either.
posted by anonymouscoward on May 31, 2012 at 05:45:55 pm # 1 person liked this
I think Maggie talked about using a meter to fill her pool from the hydrant or something cant remember and and cant find it in search.
posted by Linecrosser on May 31, 2012 at 05:58:58 pm #
I had done the calculations a couple of years ago, and it came out to about $0.005 per gallon (half a penny per gallon). I remember there being a base charge of some sort, so it may be less per unit if you use more.
posted by milesdriven on May 31, 2012 at 06:14:54 pm #
Having it trucked in would get the pool filled faster.
I know a few people that used water from the fire hydrant to fill their pools.
posted by buckeye278 on May 31, 2012 at 07:54:19 pm #
Thanks for all the tips. I am going to call the city in the morning to see about getting credit for the sewage because I am filling with my hose. They want a $300 deposit for a 1 inch meter and a $900 deposit for a 3 inch meter to fill out of a hydrant.
I was checking out Google and found this about Rossford: http://www.rossfordohio.com/water_sewer.htm
They offer a credit for sewage use when filling out of a garden hose.
Actually, I've not used the fire hydrants to fill my pool, though a neighbor up the street has. They put a meter on the hydrant and a hose to your pool and then charge for what the meter reads when you're finished.
The key, though is to be sure you're set up on the winter average for the sewer portion of your bill. The city sets the sewage rate once a year and traditionally uses an average based on the summer months. If you have a pool, they will use your winter usage as your average for the rest of the year so you don't end up paying sewer charges on all the water you put in the pool.
posted by MaggieThurber on Jun 01, 2012 at 07:17:49 am #
I seem to recall that years and years ago, for a fee, you could get the fire department to hook up to a hydrant and fill the pool in no time at all.
Is my memory playing tricks on me?
posted by shamrock44 on Jun 01, 2012 at 08:15:16 am #
I seem to recall that years and years ago, for a fee, you could get the fire department to hook up to a hydrant and fill the pool in no time at all.
Is my memory playing tricks on me?
Have you read any other posts in the thread?
posted by slowsol on Jun 01, 2012 at 08:33:46 am # 2 people liked this
I have a friend from high school who is a city fire fighter. I have contacted him to see if he knows what the procedure is for filling it from the hydrant.
slowsol, I hang my head in shame!
posted by shamrock44 on Jun 01, 2012 at 09:36:04 am #
Anyone ever see the water truck that taps into the hydrant on the side street (Heatherlawn, I believe)Off of Heatherdowns almost to Byrne? It's the street that runs behind the closed Frischs. I see him a few times every summer.
posted by OnePlainPerson on Jun 01, 2012 at 10:06:11 am #
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