This Chart Shows Why Teabaggers Won't Cut The Deficit

Don't forget other brilliant cost-saving moves laying off teachers, police and firefighters as well as cutting food stamps and getting rid of the Department of Education.

I'm sorry, but did AC say anything important? There was the tired, played out Tea-infused invective and then nothing but...

Of course the question was rhetorical because AC is usually either flaming or carrying the water. So, by all means, keep fornicating yourself.

It's ok because you can't see arm shoved up his ass to make his head and lips move to the DNC talking points.

It only stands to reason that where there’s sacrifice, there’s someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master.
Ayn Rand

In a modern, mechanized society where the need for sheer manpower is slim, the modern slave is the man of the mind – the industrialist, the entrepreneur… any man of ability and value.
The noble man’s sin is his ability, his desire and his commitment.
Danneskjold

Oh man, I just love it when people quote Ayn Rand.

Why I love it, I won't yet specify.

The same poll says that over half of you Republicans think Obama wasn't born in the USA despite him releasing his birth certificate.

When over half your party is clearly insane and in denial of reality, you don't have much credibility.

The only one carrying water here is you, and that's water on the brain. The GOP is insane and the system is rigged so that the choice is either join the Republican lunatics in their asylum or vote Dem. If you aren't one of the Teabagger lunatics, then why don't you check yourself out of the asylum and vote actual Libertarian Party or form something else?

Would insanity describe trying a known failed system of socialism over and over?

Would insanity describe spending more money while being hit with a reduction in income?

If so, Republicans are insane for the Bush tax cuts while we were running two wars.

Wow and Obama spent no money these last 3 years?

Are you in denial of the fact that Congress passes spending bills, and that the Constitution says Obama does not actually have to sign the bill for it to become law?

Wow just like when congress was DEM controlled the end of Bush and 1st 2 years of Obama, wonder where all that money went.

The GOP is insane and the system is rigged so that the choice is either join the Republican lunatics in their asylum or vote Dem.

Right. So my choice is to have people think I'm crazy, or have them all know for sure.

Here's a question for you, AC: What is the government going to do when it runs out of other people's money?

Print more.

Button up Linecrosser. I'm talking to AC.

Well AC? Why can't you answer? Nothing to say about this?

If the Moonbats are occupying the Big White Double-wide and command the Fuckup Factory, then the government will just plug in the Official Government Xerox machine and burn through six tons of currency paper. My only advice is that instead of C-notes, they bring back the Big One - $1000 bill, and instead of Hamilton or Cleveland on the front, they print the Ayatollah Obama. That'll fix everything.

In six months we'll be glad we have G-notes instead of C-notes because of the size of the wad everyone will have to carry just to buy groceries. If there's any food to be had, of course. Give it a year to a year and a half and Charmin will be worth more than the new G-note. In two years every healthy person in the US will be reminded twice a day just who is responsible for this brand new, non-existent economy we were promised back in 2008.

And yeah, like Linecrosser said, they'll just print more and they won't think anything of it.

I think a lot of people would benefit by taking a course of how our government works and why it was set up this way.

Ayatollah Obama?

THIS IS WHY THE GOP AND TEABAGGERS ARE CONSIDERED RACIST.

You're being a douchebag and your argument is invalid.

A non-answer, which is what I expected.

So you throw a curse at someone and that justifies your position, typical.

Maddie, have you stopped beating your wife yet?

play that race car coward, play it, and again, you dont have much else to do.

I don't have a wife, AC.

I think a lot of people would benefit by taking a course of how our government works and why it was set up this way.

And just how, exactly, would any course like that enlighten the average man about just how and why the government will ensure that the average man's life is going to suck pond scum for the next 80 years?

So she left you because you wouldn't stop beating her! I knew it!

The people who brought up race are the ones who started the "Ayatollah Obama" crap.

We get it, Obama's black and you're a pile of racists who are pissing your pants 'cause you bought into all the racist shit from the right-wing talking heads.

If the President happened to be half-Asian and named Won Hung Lo or whatever, you'd all be claiming he's a Chinese communist trying to force Taoism or Buddhism on us. If he was white and named Goldstein, you'd (very quietly) be whipping out the swastikas and claiming he's part of the Great Jewish Banking Conspiracy. The only thing that would mollify your bullshit is if those imaginary presidents were card-carrying members of the GOP.

But yeah, blame Obama for absolutely everything and ignore all the other people over in Congress, and blame only the Democrats because only Republicans are True Americans who love Christian God.

Keep on fucking that chicken, guys, because your racist, homophobic, militant ultraconservative Christian bullshit is turning off all the nice younger voters who are growing up with the Internet and interacting with all these other people of other races, religions, and nationalities, and realize that they don't have any problem with them and the common enemy is the old entrenched rich fucks trying to protect themselves from loss of power - it's the same fucking shit be it in the USA, Mexico, Central America, Africa, Russia, China, Greece, wherever.

Ayatollah is indicitive of Islam, which is not a race its a religion.

Coward well you better sit in a grassy square and sing kumbayah, lets take everyone's money and spread it around, till hey guess what everyone is poor and no one will have a job. Or we can all work for the government and the government will control everything, no need for private businesses the government can operates in the red indeffinately off tax payers dime, and promise the workers the world as long as you keep them in power, wow paradise.

Got this in a chain letter and I highly agree with it.

Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution: "Congress shall
make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply
equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law
that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to
the citizens of the United States ."

Same with state and local governments.

So, how would Congress give themselves a pay raise? That would immediately cause the nation to go bankrupt, not to mention become OMG COMMIE SOCIALISM...

Do they deserve a pay raise?

Not this year, no. Next year isn't looking good either... in fact, now that you bring the subject up I think that we're going to have to look at cut backs in Congressional staffing. It doesn't seem economically feasible to maintain current congressional numbers given the fall in our GNP and the rise in debt expenditures. So cutting congress to, say, half its current size would help.

Can't cut senators nor congressmen, but yes you can cut their staff to the bone. Can cut their salaries, cut their budgets. That is if they pass the measures on themselves which we know they will never do.

How about we make them stay in DC on a set schedule as well, where they are required to conduct at least 20 hours of business in Congress per week, and another 20 of direct availability to constituents via phone or Internet chat, and they otherwise get 4 weeks off for combined vacation and campaign time? And unless they are excused for medical reasons, approved bipartisan travel, or the aforementioned 4 weeks off, if they miss more than a certain number of consecutive votes, their seat is automatically vacated with a free-for-all special election held to fill it 6 weeks from the date it was vacated, and they're not eligible to be in that election.

Problem is that at least half the congress is voted in by people who live off the public dole, and they keep it that way by looking out for their interest and their interest only, the hell with whats good for the country as a whole. I doubt there is one elected official that will take a stand and do what is required to fix government because they want to stay in power, and you dont stay in power doing what is unpopular.

O RLY.

Must not be the half of Congress that's made up of millionaires, then.

Unless you consider "public dole" to include all the other millionaires who got their money from subsidies, tax breaks, government contracts, grants, etc.

looking out only for the welfare peoples interest, and don't give me that millionaire thing, the majority of congress are millionaires including the democrats who like to portray themselves as part of the 99%. "I too know what its like to be poor and live day to day" no you forgot how when you got to congress and started insider trading like the rest of them.

Actually they could care less about the welfare folk until they need their votes. And they want to keep them in poverty and on the welfare rolls so they will always be dependent on the hand that feeds them.

I have do not have faith that Mitt Romney will cut the deficit as I don't see him reigning in spending one bit.

Once again, as if the President has much control over spending unless he's got a friendly Congress to pass all the spending bills for him. Or are you Teapublicans forgetting about that Constitution thing again?

That said, with Rmoney and a GOP-controlled Congress, the spending cuts will be stuff like NPR, PP, CPB, just pissant things that are to the Federal budget what buying store-brand soda is to buying name-brand as the only change in your grocery spending. Except that Rmoney and the TeaOP will opt to do more stupid shit involving tax cuts and trips over to the Military-Industrial aisle (war with Iran, or aid to Israel, or buying more toys for the military) and handouts for Big Ag and Big Pharma.

Face it, the GOP doesn't have the 'nads to do anything substantial to cut the deficit, which is what this whole thread was supposed to be about (see the graphic!)

I didn't see the liberals cut the deficit with owning the white house, senate and house either AC, George Sorros got his hands in your pants again?

Funny seeing how Obama promised to cut the deficit in half, instead he increased it by a third.

Here we go with LIE-ny again. Obviously in your reality the House is not currently a Republican majority and Boehner isn't speaker.

Call me a liar again fucking moron, in 2009 through 2010 the democrats HELD ALL 3. OBAMA- White house, HARRY REID - Senate, NANCY PELOSI - House of representatives.

CARE TO TRY AGAIN??????

111th United States Congress
January 3, 2009 - January 3, 2011

The One Hundred Eleventh United States Congress was the meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government from January 3, 2009, until January 3, 2011. It began during the last two weeks of the George W. Bush administration, with the remainder spanning the first two years of Barack Obama's presidency.

Senate President: Dick Cheney (R) (until Jan. 20, 2009)
Senate President: Joe Biden (D) (from Jan. 20, 2009)
Senate Pres. pro tem: Robert Byrd (D) (until June 28, 2010); Daniel Inouye (D) (from June 28, 2010)

House Speaker: Nancy Pelosi (D)

Senate Majority: Democratic Party
House Majority: Democratic Party

Dubya grabbed the credit card and for 8 years Congress signed for all his purchases, gave everyone a CashBack Reward for voting for him (anyone not remember that $300 stimulus check), and any time the Dems threatened not to sign, they were attacked as America-hating terrorist-conspirators, and you know FUCKING WELL know it. And don't forget the Bush tax cuts, because it makes sense to cut revenue at the same time you're fighting two wars! Just like it makes sense to voluntarily go from working full time to working part-time while charging more on your credit card, right?

So when Obama had two years of Dem control, he and the Dems were magically supposed to fix every problem, and now that the House is controlled by Republicans, it's STILL Obama's fault. And we can't raise taxes on income over $250k because anyone who has income over $250k is a "job creator". And those "job creators" are NOT spoiled children who are going to sit there and pointedly NOT create jobs if they are taxed one more penny. And instead of doing ANYTHING about jobs or the economy, the Republican-controlled House just scheduled ANOTHER vote to try to repeal "Obamacare" (RomneyCare 2.0), AGAIN.

In fact, you clowns are the ones who kicked a pile of people out of the GOP as being "Republicans In Name Only" and are claiming that your new, TEA-flavored Republicans are some sort of Super Deficit Police. But if they are deficit police, then I have to say I always thought that Proper Hardworking Salt-of-the-Earth Bootstrappy Americans, who are supposed to be what the Republican Party is made up of (instead of lazy shiftless spend-other-people's-money welfare-recipient Democrats) would be the sort of people to, when faced with being in the hole, GET ANOTHER JOB TO GET MORE REVENUE TO PAY DOWN THE BILLS ***AND*** MAKE THE HARD CHOICES FOR SPENDING CUTS. But, look at the chart that started this thread off... Republicans don't want to do EITHER. Second job (Tax hikes)? Fuck that, you say. Your old-ass base isn't going to take a cut to Medicaid or Social Security, and your corporate masters in the military-industrial complex that old Ike warned you about won't take a cut in their paychecks. Instead of giving up beer and smokes entirely, you simply switch from Marlboros and Yuengling to rolling your own and Natty Light, then tell the kids there's no money for their sports at the Y and that the freeloading little bastards need to get newspaper routes. And then you blame the wife for the shortfall because her clipping coupons isn't cutting spending enough.

Fuck you, Republicans. Stop putting the Republican Party in front of America's priorities.

haha rofl

Yeah NY Times the epitome of unbiased news.

This chart is the kicker, shows graphed by control of congress.

HEY LIE-NY THE LIAR-

NICE GRAPH OF THE DEBT CEILING, NOT THE ACTUAL DEBT.

FUCK YOU, YOU LYING SACK OF SHIT.

Also, your bestest buddy Chimpy McFlightsuit and his friends in Congress kept his two wars off the books by funding them with emergency appropriations. Obama stopped that practice, so now the numbers are all skewed. And don't forget the lag time between Congress passing a bill to spend money and the time the money gets out the door and the time they tally up the damage too. Because, let's not forget, BUSH'S BAILOUTS set aside money that wasn't spent immediately, but got spent after things changed hands.

Funny how when your guys ran up the credit card, there was nary a peep from you Teabagger-type fuck-sticks... until things looked bad for the GOP, at which point Fox News ginned up the Tea Party to be all talk about the deficit and blame everything on the Dems instead of the lax regulation and oversight and extravagant spending that happened under Republicans.

Again, FUCK YOU, LIE-NY. Where the fuck where you when Bush was all "Let's invade Iraq and fuck Saddam's shit up! YEEHAW!"? Oh that's right, you and your ilk were calling anyone who was against that war "America-hating terrorist sympathizers" and shit like that. And if it was one of your own Republican buddies, you kicked him out of the party for being a RINO.

Take some fucking personal responsibility there, Chief. Oh wait, no true Republican ever does anything wrong EVER, if a Republican fucks up, they're a Democrat in sheep's clothing. That's why a pile of Republican fuck-ups magically appeared on Fox News with a (D) next to their name instead of an (R), right?

Im still an independant and he and they aren't "my" guys you assholic twit. I just don't agree with the communistic Obummer policies.

Oh I see how this goes. You claim to be independent yet you spout the same bullshit you hear on Fox News and talk radio and see on the Internet. Because if you were actually independent, you'd have a fucking clue what the fuck communism and socialism actually are and you wouldn't resort to the Obummer/0bama name calling bullshit that comes out of the mouth of every Teabagger. You're following the party line, you dumbfuck. You're repeating the bullshit fed to you by the GOP and the people who want the GOP in power.

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And you spout the same shit you hear on MSNBC.

I don't watch MSNBC, asshole, I don't even have cable.

But again, where the fuck where you when Republicans were racking up debt? Wasn't a problem back then, right?

Can you even name specific policies of Obama's and explain why they are communistic without having to specifically go Google up some conservative sources?

Why do you love obama so much?

A) quit changing the subject, Lie-ny, and 2) I don't "love" Obama so much, he's more of a pussy than Clinton when it comes to sticking up for himself and fending off his detractors, but given a choice between him and the "let's fuck America over" Republicans who are happy to be racist and religionist and talk about small government and freedom while enacting MORE laws to take away rights and freedoms, I'll be happy to vote for him any time.

Speaking of such things, Lie-ny, did you vote in the primary?

Hey Lie-ny, how many times have the Republicans in control of the House tried to do anything about jobs and the economy?

ZERO.

But they've had 33 votes to repeal "Obamacare".

No i didn't vote in the primary since you have to register as a republican to vote in it.

Never mind all the bills sitting in the Senate that wont even get looked at thanks to Harry Reid.

In Michigan, that is false. YOU FAIL.

Funny thing how the GOP focuses on Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid ALL THE TIME and you follow along in lockstep. It's all Harry Reid's fault, and has nothing to do with the Senate Minority Leader being an obstructionist asshole, right? It's not like Mitch McConnell ever said anything about the top priority being making Obama a one-term President, right?

Come on, fuckface, if you're not a Republican, if you're actually serious about this deficit and debt bullshit, then let's hear you roundly and firmly condemn the Republicans involved.

Uh no its not if I wanted to vote in the Michigan primary i had to register as a republican

I do condemn them you idiot, I also condemn the liberals that only made it worse.

Do I have to be a registered Republican or Democrat to participate in Michigan’s Feb. 28,
2012 presidential primary?
No. Michigan’s presidential primary has been designated a “closed primary.” However, there is
no political party registration requirement in Michigan Election Law governing voter
registration.

When Bush took office, the national debt was $5.73 trillion. When he left, it was $10.7 trillion.

Where the fuck where you when this happened?

Oh, I know where you were. Not having a problem because Team GOP had the White House instead of the black guy Fox News made you all scared and angry about. Now, suddenly, the debt is a HUGE IMPORTANT ISSUE... conveniently after Bush's two wars and handouts of "antiterrorism" hardware to every police department racked it up.

You don't know me, yet you obviously think you do. You sir are a moron of the first order, say again why you love Obummer so much? And let me know when you get George's hand out of your pants.

See, here we go with the insults against Obama again. You're not trying very hard to hide your racism and pro-GOP cheerleading/anti-Dem hate. But you're an "independent", right....

This chart is the kicker, shows graphed by control of congress.

Yeah, that's a nice chart and all, but the problem is that the chart, when you look at it, well... the chart shows that the public debt ceiling went up a lot more when the Democrats had control of Congress than when Congress was split or when the Republicans had control of Congress.

See how that is?

Why is that?

You know, if you look hard enough you can find something to criticize with all of our presidents - over the last 60 years or so.

Harry S. Truman, 1945-1953; Harry the Hat, elected with the assistance of T.J. Pendergast of Kansas City. Not the first to bring organized crime into the White House, and not the last.
Dwight David Eisenhower, 1953-1961; I Like Ike!!! Brought West Point discipline into the Federal Government. Eventually he returned to commanding the Army where he rediscovered the obeisance he didn't find in Congress.
John Fitzgerald Kennedy, 1961-1963; JFK, who never met a drop dead gorgeous twenty-something female he didn't chase like a starving hound going after a treed possum. Infamous for the carefully forgoten fiasco 'Bay of Pigs' and bringing the United States within a whisker of getting us into a Fourth of July style shooting war with the USSR.
Lyndon Baines Johnson, 1963-1969; Hey, Hey L-B-J... Signed the civil rights act with one hand while he quietly (very, very quietly) pointed to Vietnam with the other. This way to the war, boys.
Richard Milhous Nixon, 1969-1974; Who can forget Tricky Dick Nixon, Watergate and the Pentagon Papers? This presidency marks the beginning of the Big Public Scandal. I don't think the Wingnuts ever forgave the Moonbats for this one.
Gerald Rudolph Ford, 1974-1977; Who? You know, what's his name, the guy who became President after Tricky Dick... it'll come to me.
James Earl Carter, Jr., 1977-1981; The Peanut Farmer. Offered the world conclusive proof that the United States special forces units were incapable of carrying out a mission in the Middle Eastern desert.
Ronald Wilson Reagan, 1981-1989; Cowboy Ron, or just Ronnie. Stayed in the White House for eight years - physically, anyway. Who knows where he really was those last few years. Infamous for the long ago and long forgotten Iran-Contra scandal.
George Herbert Walker Bush, 1989-1993; King George I. Started NAFTA and Mideast war.
William Jefferson Clinton, 1993-2001; Slick Willie. Signed NAFTA and proclaimed that the good life was truly here. The US economy begins circling the drain at the end of this era. Got caught chasin' tail in the office, but so what? Wife Hitlery tried to nail him with a lamp and the press tried to nail him to the cross but he came back stronger than ever.
George Walker Bush, 2001-2009; King George II. Failed to rescue the economy from the drain. Invaded the Middle East. Failed... and failed again. In other news, while quail hunting in Texas Vice President Dick Cheney had a senior moment and thought Harry Whittington was actually Scooter Libby.
Barack Hussein Obama, 2009-; The Ayatollah Obama. An avowed fan of Reverand Jeremiah Wright, Ayatollah Obama has failed to close gitmo as he promised to do and has continued to strip away the civil rights of the citizens of the United States. The U.S. economy has finished circling the drain.

For whatever else he did or didn't do, King George II gets an 'F' in United States economy. He made a bad thing worse. Anyone who actually believes that King George's successor will be able to turn the economy around in four years is not living in the real world.

All that said, the Ayatollah Obama has somehow, some way, made a terrible economy worse than it already is, and has done his level best to ensure that our economy continues to degrade. Obama has also continued to strip us of our civil rights when he could have taken steps to restore these rights.

There are more Moonbats and Wingnuts in Congress than ever before, and everyone who might be labeled a centrist is routinely shouted down and denied commercial media coverage. The real trouble is that the very people who are both smart enough and moral enough to run the U.S. Congress are outnumbered by howler monkeys.

And, while all this is going on, very few people want to try explaining the economic crises in Europe, which makes the US look like a peach by comparison.

madjack

"There are more Moonbats and Wingnuts in Congress than ever before, and everyone who might be labeled a centrist is routinely shouted down and denied commercial media coverage"

I agree with this. Been around a few decades and find myself in awe at the crap that passes for political spin.

Hey Maddumbass, tell me what the hell Congressional Republicans have done for the economy?

That's right! Their obstruction led to a downgrade of the debt! And they have brought ZERO jobs bills to the floor of the House, while voting THIRTY THREE TIMES to repeal Obamacare.

Also, the number of government jobs has declined under Obama. You know, public employees, which you hate because unions and tax dollars don't mix. Private sector won't create jobs without tax cuts for the "job creators" (1%) because they won't hire someone to light their cigars off $100 bills for them if it causes their profit to take a dip. They'll just make the pool boy do it for them (go look at the pretty graphs of productivity vs. wages!)

The economic crisis in Europe is in part due to a number of countries like Ireland who either cut their taxes or already had really low taxes finding out that when the rest of their tax base (companies who came flocking to those nations for the tax benefits) closed up shop during Bush's Great Recession, they had NOTHING left to pay their bills with. And since you're talking a pile of national or nationalized banks who loaned euros to people in another country, who made mortgages on property in another country, and that country is now in the shitter, well, it's the international version of the housing and credit crisis in the USA, except with international politics involved. Add in the LIBOR manipulation shit and now you have a world-class shitstorm of how Country A is out to fuck over Country B, on top of all the tensions that have gone on over there for over a thousand years between one nation and the next, one religion and the next, hell, one culture and the next.

If it wouldn't just completely destroy the country I would say go ahead, have free license to do what ever is in your hearts desire to do, and in 4 more years after everyone has seen that obummer (not racist to call him that) and his ilk have never ever been looking out for our interest, we can wipe out congress, senate and whitehouse and get someone in to fix everything they screwed up.

But then again even after all that they will still point their fingers and say, it wasn't me, it was george bush's fault after another 4 years, why not seems to work after 3.5 years. Coward I suggest you look in the mirror and really ask yourself, do you love this country the way it was founded, run and has been for the last 100 years. If the answer is no, then find another country that meets your expectations.

Four years of Obama + Republicans in control of at least one half of Congress = nothing gets done. And when they fail to compromise on a bill again, after Obama goes so far to agree to all spending cuts but insists on a tax hike on the 1%, well, the Republican chicken is going to be once and truly fucked because an entire new generation of voters is going to conclude that the GOP is a pile of old rich fogeys pandering to religious nutjobs.

You directly imply that the GOP, since they are not "Obummer and his ilk", ARE looking out for our interest.

And yet you call yourself an independent, you Republican ass-licking dolt. Republicans are truly out to look out for themselves and their buddies in the rich 1%. That's why they want tax cuts for the rich. That's why they have this big social conservative agenda laid out - to con a pile of easily led sheep who listen to some guy who tells them an invisible man in the sky will send them to burn in Hell forever if they don't live by a book that's been selectively translated and edited for over a thousand years. I don't think the Dems are much better, but at least they're not the ones claiming small government and fiscal responsibility on one hand and passing all sorts of laws restricting what ACTUAL HUMAN BEINGS (because corporations are people and passing laws restricting those people is wrong!) can do while cutting revenue and handing out government money for "faith-based initiatives" and more wars (wars which kill people, but ABORTION IS MURDER THOU SHALT NOT KILL) and to hand out to corporations on the other.

Seriously dude. What the FUCK is the source of your Obama derangement? You have never once rationally explained exactly why you hate Obama so much. All you ever spew is nonsense about "commie socialism" without explaining exactly what policies you have a problem with and exactly how they're commie socialist, never mind the fact that you wouldn't recognize socialism or communism if they came up and bit you on your tiny, tiny dick.

Stick your head in the sand Coward.

No. You can man up and lay out a specific case as to why Obama is so bad, you pussy. Or you can shut the fuck up and acknowledge the fact that your only case is that you have some sort of irrational thing against Obama, either because he's black, because he's a Democrat, or because you're brainwashed. Come on, tell us exactly what your problem is with Obama. Lay out a rational, logical case here.

I think your the one who is brainwashed, praying at the altar of Obamaism. He has been surrounded by communist and anti-capitalist his entire life. He has surrounded himself with advisers and friends who don't see America as the exceptional country that it is and want it changed. If even 10% of what is reported on channels other than ABC, CBS, NBC is true than it is truly frightening how he ever got into office in the first place.
Where is all the missing background on him, if they tried to go as in depth on his past as they did with Sarah Palin then I think more would be found.
Van Jones, Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright, all of these associates are damning to him and nothing has been done by the media to probe into their connections and relations with Obama.
You stick your head in the sand and accept what you are told by your better, I prefer to listen and look at what others have said about him. If you walk into a room and smell something rotten do you ignore it or try to find the source of the smell so you can get rid of it? There is just too much missing from his official records when all he has to do is release everything he has and squash the rumors, why hasn't he done it yet?
You seem to go out of your way to defend his every action for some reason I wonder why? I could care less about his race, you seem to cling to it as some evidence that anyone opposing him must be doing so for that reason. It's an easy game you play, to disqualify anything anyone else says by calling them racist. What you fail to realize as well as most liberals is that your tactic don't work so well anymore, the tactic has worn thin and don't work like it used to, people can see through what your doing. Like when Obama got all indignant about when that police officer questioned his buddy the professor about why he was trying to break into his own home. That officer was doing his job and without any knowledge of him or his background tried to make it look like he was a racist bent on harassing the professor, that blew up on him, but instead of just offering a an apology and admitting he was wrong what did we have? A beer summit, the media laughed and laughed and never took him to task for it.
If you look back prior to his winning you could see the fanatacism surrounding him, women pasing out at events, Chris Mathews with tingles up his legs, and other assorted reports of momentous occasion it was, there was another man who also inspired, drove people to similar great devotion and furor, his name was Hitler, but we all know that comparing Obama to anyone so infamous drives you liberals crazy. But you have no problem with comparing him to good examples in history even though there is no way that those individuals share Obama's philosophy or view on life, such as Lincoln or Reagan. So please just try to get it into your pea sized brain that just because you can't believe your messiah is bad for our country because its in your DNA to be ignorant doesn't mean you can dictate what others are allowed to think about the man, or define how or why the opposition to your favorite dictator should behave, think, react or believe anything bad about Obama. You seem to be a little one sided when people behaved irrationally with their hatred for Republicans but seem a little biased once the shoe is on the other foot and Democrats are the target for any anger by a portion of the people. Do you feel the same anger for the occupy wall street folks as you do for the Tea Party people? I doubt it, I think your a self righteous, morally defunct, self absorbed individual who has a got mine attitude, that couldn't for the life of them come up with anything remotely considered a good idea if it was written in plain English in a 20 bold Arial font, tied around your neck and dragged before your eyes, you have a holier than thou attitude are smug in some sort of self satisfaction that you will get your way regardless what anyone else wants or needs because you have inside information or know the right people to get you what you desire. You probably hang around with like minded folks and all congradulate yourselves on how smart each of you are, all the while trying to belittle anyone who don't think or believe the way you do. You call yourself caring and doing right for others while you try to get ahead regardless of what it does to others not sharing your own beliefs. You sir are an idiot and will receive exactly what you deserve someday and I can only hope and pray that you wake up before that comes to pass, but I doubt that will happen. Now you can go ahead and critique my spelling and grammar mistakes because that seems to please you self endowed intillectuals into a sense of supperiority for some reason.

Irony is when Lie-ny tries to call someone ignorant while not being smart enough to run his rant through a spell-checker.

Irony is also when he stands on the side of Christian fundamentalists, the 1%, Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, and other self-righteous, morally defunct people who condemn other people to Hell for being homosexual, who call any woman on birth control for any reason a slut, who are happy to cheat on and divorce their sick wives and then pass a ban on gay marriage on the grounds that it undermines "traditional" marriage, and then calls me self-righteous and morally defunct.

So anyway, after trying to translate your wall of text from Derp to English, your whole argument boils down to "BECAUSE VAN JONES, BILL AYERS, REV. WRIGHT"? And "BECAUSE LIBRUL MEDIA WON'T PROBE OBAMA"? Where's that picture of Reagan meeting with Afghan rebels? How about Dubya holding hands with the Saudi prince? Bush's associations with the bin Laden family? Skull and Bones? Do you want to get into Romney's associations? How about I pull out the pic of RON PAUL with the webmaster of Stormfront.org?

Weaksauce, dude. Your side blew their credibility with the repeated "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?" crap, so any more "tips" about Obama like that are mostly ignored by the credible media.

Congrats on bringing up Hitler, by the way. It's the last resort of people like you who lose their arguments.

there it is, spellchecker, I guess someone as ignorantly superior doesn't know or understand what a word means if its not spelled correctly or thinks that it can't be applied to you if not punctuated right.
Credible media? your saying that with a straight face? Like Dan Rather and the scathing documents? Try researching Hitler sometime, he was a very charismatic charming person and gave a great speech.

He would probably even give chills up Chris Mathews' leg too.

So you're directly comparing Obama to Hitler now?

If the shoe fits, wear it. So you never did say how you liked George's hand down your pants.

Ah, I'm sorry, now it all makes sense. Obama = Hitler, George Soros obsession... YOU'RE SUCKING ON GLENN BECK'S COCK!

I don't ever watch or listen to him, his voice is grating with his self humored sarcasm. But I do think your sucking Obama's.

Here you go, AC. My own objections to another four years of Obama are:

1. Failure to restore our civil rights. I thought (foolish me) that of all people Obama would be the most likely to work for a restoration of our civil rights and rescind the Patriot Act. He hasn't.

2. Failure to return outsourced jobs to the United States. As it stands right now, the US is actually paying industry to outsource jobs to Mexico.

3. Failure to pass a budget. Obama is supposed to be a leader of the US Congress, yet Congress is in the tightest gridlock I've ever seen and Obama does nothing about it. That's unacceptable.

4. Failure to condemn, in the strongest possible terms, the New Black Panther Party and their offer of $10,000 for the 'capture' of Zimmerman. The instant that outrageous announcement was made Obama should have reacted and condemned the action. The leaders of the NBPP should have been arrested by the Federal Government and charged with conspiracy to commit murder. Obama didn't even blink.

5. Failure to adequately regulate both the banking and the insurance industries so as to prevent another economic depression and to provide economically feasible health insurance to the working poor, a class that Obama knows nothing about and doesn't care to learn about. These are two industries that it is impossible to over-regulate, yet Obama does nothing.

6. Failure to close GitMo. When he was running for office, Obama couldn't wait to close Gitmo. He was going to close Gitmo just as soon as he got seated in the oval office and threw his feet up on the desk. Obama not only hasn't closed Gitmo, he hasn't even spoken about it.

Just why you continue to defend the Ayatollah Obama is something only you know and can rationalize. What I'd like to know is how you defend the six criticisms I just enumerated for the second time - you couldn't defend these the first time around, but I'll give you another chance.

I think it started after Watergate. When old Tricky Dick got caught and persecuted, I think a new journalism era got started. How many scandals were passed over before this one just because of the fallout? I often wonder about that.

I don't think anyone from that era would recognize the political grandstanding we have today. It just isn't the same.

1) Yes that pisses me off too. Then again, Congress has been tying shit like the "indefinite detention" to must-pass bills (the few bills they pass) so once they actually pass it, Obama can't veto without the GOP screaming about how Obama vetoed the precious bill for whatever. Fucking politics, how do they work?

2) Obama's jobs bill is sitting on the desk of Congress. It has had ZERO votes. Boehner's held 33 votes to repeal Obamacare. So I don't want to hear about how Obama's failing to return jobs to the USA when House Republicans won't even hold a vote on his jobs bill but have held 33 pointless votes to repeal Obamacare.

3) Obama doesn't pass budgets. Congress passes budgets. Call me when a budget passes and Obama vetoes it. And again, when the GOP leaders say straight up their #1 goal is to make Obama a one-term president, instead of doing ANYTHING for this country, and you whine about Obama, well go fuck yourself for not holding the responsible people responsible. Fucking Constitution and delegation of powers, how does it work?

4) Someone should definitely have done something about that, for sure. If not Obama then the DOJ should have been all over that.

5) Republicans repealed the regulations that worked just fine on banking... and cowed Clinton into allowing it. Obama can't pass regulation, you need Congress to do that, and just like the jobs and budget, Congress is broken and won't do jack shit.

6) I'm pissed about this too.

1) Yes that pisses me off too... Fucking politics, how do they work?
They don't, mainly. I didn't say Obama was alone in this one, as there is plenty of fault to go around.

2) Obama's jobs bill is sitting on the desk of Congress. It has had ZERO votes. Boehner's held 33 votes to repeal Obamacare. So I don't want to hear...
The problem with Obama's jobs bill is that it does nothing to bring back the jobs we lost overseas, which is what is needed. Obama wants to spend Federal money on infrastructure, which is laudable, but places no restrictions on hiring or on contract practices, meaning that out of town labor can be used - which is not what is needed.

3) Obama doesn't pass budgets. Congress passes budgets.
Obama signs budgets, and he's supposed to be leading Congress. Congress is in the tightest gridlock that I've ever heard of, and for his part Obama should step up to the plate and lead the sheep out of the swamp. He isn't doing that.

4) Someone should definitely have done something about that, for sure. If not Obama then the DOJ should have been all over that.
Obama rules the DOJ via his cat's paw, Holder.

5) Republicans repealed the regulations that worked just fine on banking... and cowed Clinton into allowing it. Obama can't pass regulation...
I don't believe that Slick Willy ever got cowed into anything. Slick signed the repeal out of a sense of greed, no more, no less. While it certainly is true that Obama can't pass legislation (regulations for the banking and finance industry), that doesn't prevent him from writing it and introducing it to Congress.

6) I'm pissed about this too.
Well then, there you go.

I've always been tempted to give Obama a pass on Gitmo because there are certain things a person learns when they move into the oval office that they will never know beforehand. It could very well be that Obama has learned of extenuating circumstances that prevent the closing of Gitmo, and talking about these things would constitute a serious breech of security. In keeping with criticizing the president, Obama could have announced as much and let the entire subject drop.

Obama signs budgets, and he's supposed to be leading Congress. Congress is in the tightest gridlock that I've ever heard of, and for his part Obama should step up to the plate and lead the sheep out of the swamp. He isn't doing that.

He doesn't have to sign a budget for it to become law. Read the Constitution. Also, since the entire GOP is dedicated to making Obama a one-term president, anything Obama wants is automatically denied. At this point if Obama wanted a bill passed that mandated everyone breathe air, the GOP would hold their breath until they passed out. You know this. Don't fault Obama when it's the stubborn man-children of the GOP who are being the obstructionists.

I don't believe that Slick Willy ever got cowed into anything. Slick signed the repeal out of a sense of greed, no more, no less. While it certainly is true that Obama can't pass legislation (regulations for the banking and finance industry), that doesn't prevent him from writing it and introducing it to Congress.

It's there, they even created a "Consumer Financial Protection Bureau‎" but hey, when it came time to staff it, Congressional Republicans blocked Obama on that. As for the rest of it, again, anything Obama likes is instantly hated by Republicans. If Obama would say he likes not drinking drain cleaner, Boehner and McConnell would be holding a press conference to chug Draino.

Now you are being stupid.

Excuse me? Do I have to point you, again, to the video of the Senate Minority Leader stating the number one goal is to make Obama a one-term President? Anything Obama supports, Republicans are against as a matter of principle in order to make Obama look bad and keep their base (idiots like you) riled up.

...anything Obama wants is automatically denied.[by the GOP]

And this is news? While the GOP may well align themselves against anything and everything Obama approves, that situation exists in both directions. Obama is left with the Democrats in Congress who, I would think, would support him. Who controlled Congress during the first two years of his term? What did Congress accomplish during that time? This was the Democrat's big chance - and the Dems couldn't agree on anything. Now I would think that given the numbers Obama had, the Dems would have taken control of the government and passed legislation that they actually, really believed the country needed. Didn't happen.

Richard Cordray is head of Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Yeah, that whole business has been 'controversial' to say the least.

This was the Democrat's big chance - and the Dems couldn't agree on anything.

Liar.

That's right.

FUCK YOU, MADJACK, YOU LYING SCUMBAG.

You know what damn well got passed during that time.

Thanks for giving everyone perfectly good reason to disregard everything you say as right-wing biased bullshit and lies.

Yeah healthcare, (which is really the healthcare insurance bill, paying back the healthcare industry and tort lawyers) And they had to cheat and lie and steal to get it passed.

AC, you dissembling beef-witted clotpole, if you actually knew half of what you think you know, you'd be a mammering ill-nurtured pus-worm. As it is, you're just noise.

"cheat and lie and steal to get it passed"

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Didn't help that the GOP STILL went "OH HEY FILIBUSTER FILIBUSTER!"

Kansas Kickback

Linecrosser--that was the Cornhusker Kickback and, associated, the Louisiana Purchase

This is how the sausage got made.