New indoor firing range in Maumee?

I think this is what your looking for...
http://shootersofmaumee.com/

My thanks to Upso and GTVT. I haven't heard a thing about it; now I'll have to go check it out.

SendorG: Fuck you.

THANKS gtvt!!!

I LOLd at SensorG's post, personally.

No Problem madjack&upso. It's on my to do list :-) Heard about it 2 weeks ago from some shooters, but couldn't find anything about it on-line either. Today I dug a little harder because nothing would come up with my keywords either. Delusionally speaking, I am a bit surprised not 1 word was mentioned about it from our fair and balanced media.

Obviously flame throwers can be used right here. Just need a place for those rocket launchers.

I use Clelands about once a month. I would like to check this place out.

I wouldn't waste good liquor like that, SensorG.

In our neighborhood, people call those items "fireworks," so you don't need a special range to play with those things.

The new range is in the light industrial buildings on the road just north of the trail between Ford and Conant. (it runs parallel to the trail) Haven't been in yet, but an extended family member has talked to the guy and said he seems like a decent sort. Looking forward to going - have a rifle that has never fired a round.

I went and shot there last Saturday. The range is excellent and the overall layout is great. They have a very large selection of rental guns and their ammo prices aren't too bad.

The place charges by the visit. Staying for five minutes costs as much as four hours, which is kind of a novelty. My own fun meter pegs out around an hour and a half.

The staff is friendly and generally knowledgeable. I'll certainly shoot there again.

Thanks for the review. Was it very busy on Saturday? I fell into a routine of sheduling a gap in my workweek so that I could visit Clelands during the weekdays. If the crowds are not as heavy at the new place on the weekend it would be a nice option.

I see that they are closed Mondays.

I can't wait to check this place out!

I didn't see it as being very busy, but I kind of think that may change in the future. About half the 50 foot range was in use, and maybe one-third of the 75 foot range was in use.

I went today. I like it. The video wasn't bad. All common sense stuff. Good reminders.
Glad that everybody else has to watch it. :)

A nice feature is the countertop with bar stools in the showroom with windows into each lane so that non-shootering guests can watch their folks shoot in a more comfortable way.

I sensed that the low frequency trapping was worse than Clelands. The booms were extra boomy. But I got used to it. More concrete in a smaller space, maybe. The 50 foot and 75 foot are divided by a block wall.
Shooting alone today, I sent 185 rounds of three different calibers downrange in about an hour. I don't think that I could go two hours. So the visit pricing works out ok. All lanes were never full. But it was hopping. I was helped right away.
20 bucks all I could shoot.
I also enjoyed the wider shooting stations. Cleland's new range is so narrow that my shoulders touch and the brass sometimes hits me in the face. Compared to Clelands they seemed generous.
I would go back.
They rent a lot of current model stuff and sell also.

Can I fire an AR15 there? How about buckshot?

yes

Can you bring your own ammo or do you have to purchase it from them?

They require you to buy their ammo for their rental weapons.
Makes sense.
You are free to use your own ammo for your own weapons. They have everything you need, but I brought everything with me including targets and paid only range fee.

Gun guys (and gals): can you recommend a place to take a basic pistol class? Not interested in getting a CCW, just thinking of getting some familiarity with handguns and maybe do a little target shooting. Have never shot a pistol before.

Here is some basic info to think about.
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-columns/features/tune-up-your-gun-handling/

Here is the safety video from Shooters of Maumee. Good habits to know before heading to any range. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzMR1iGtBrw

Clelands has a basic pistol class for $75 a person. You need nothing. Everything is supplied.

http://www.clelands.com/basicinstruction.htm

Target shooting is a very enjoyable indoor sport, regardless of any future interest in carrying.

I went last Saturday and wrote a review with pictures for anyone who has too much free time on their hands: Range Report: Shooters of Maumee.

The place is on Sophia street, which runs parallel to the Anthony Wayne Trail between Conant and Ford. Once you find Sophia you'll find the range pretty easily, as Sophia is only a few blocks long.

The place is clean and well lit, although I could do with a little better lighting on the range. The rest rooms are clean and the staff is friendly and helpful.

They have a huge inventory of rental guns, so if you'd like to try something out then this is your first stop. Rentals include rifles as well as handguns. The only caveat is that you must buy all your rental gun ammo from Shooters.

They have firearms instruction available on an appointment basis, individual or groups and includes CCW classes.

I recommend the place to everyone who wants to go out shooting.

Hey, Madjack, I want to ask you a question about your blog. Please contact me on my workspace or however you talk to someone off-line.

just got back from my first session at shooters. holy crap this place is AWESOME
i visited with a fellow Toledo Talker and we shot an AR, a shot gun with one ounce slugs, a glock and my HK 9mm.

I agree with everything Madjack says. I would recommend the range to anyone.

I agree with everything Madjack says.

Now that's worth blogging about!

ha!

Have you guys been watching the video again on subsequent visits? Or when you tell them that you are a return guest, do they skip it?
(I have gone back a couple of times, but have always taken a new guest with me, so I am still not sure on the video. I've seen it a few times now.)

They did not seem to be policing the video watching much.

Do you have to be a member to go, or is it open to anyone?

Open to anyone.
Closed Mondays.

Thanks justread!

I think my daughter and/or son(s) and I will have to stop by for some paper shooting... I love indoor ranges. After years of standing in the rain, snow, whatever in order to qualify with an M16A1and2 and an M1911A1, I am still grateful for comfortable shooting.

Thanks for the tip @justread

UPSO I hope that's not you in the photo. That's an AR15 being fired at what looks like at best 20 yards (it should be fired at 36 or more).

Then in the next picture the target looks like someone shot it with a shotgun the pattern is so spread out. I hope you don't ever have to shoot me. Not because I'm afraid of dying, but because I'm afraid I'll be in pain for several minutes as you shoot me multiple times at close range before I'm finally fatally hit.

LOL just busting your balls.

I may come in town for the Walleye run this year. If I do I'll let you all know so anyone who wants to have a friendly shooting competition can meet me there.

Sensor would probably be surprised to learn ANYBODY can own a flame thrower. ANYBODY! They are less regulated than a 410 gauge shotgun.

haha

busy looking up flamethrower deals on Amazon...

Amazon sells the attachments. http://flamethrowerexpert.com/ tells you where you can buy and arrange a sale.

A friend of mine had his farm hand use a flame thrower to finish the clear cut of some of his property. A densly wooded piece of land became a rolling prarie with a pond in the matter of about 3 months.

I wish I could have helped. Flamethrowers are fun. Remember you can't spell Harem Elf Rot without Flamethrower!

Made my first trip to Shooters just before Thanksgiving to give the rifle a little tune up before doing some deer "watching" in the northern part of the Mitten.

That being said, I can't agree more with the others who have gone and gave two thumbs up. Great place to do some shooting.

"busy looking up flamethrower deals on Amazon..."

I thought you worked for one? ;)

LOL! Just trying to warm things up, a little, Foodie...

Anybody take anything chambered in 7.62×39 or 7.62×54R yet?

Ballistic level 8 range - they say they can take anything 3600 fps and under.

We shot there before Thanksgiving. Nice facility, some typically unsafe shooters, and I would have preferred a closer watching range officer.

But we survived and will go back.

CC

Cool. I had not seen the limit stated in fps. Thanks.

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Took my stepson-to-be to Shooters this past weekend for his birthday. We watched the video at home on youtube before we went and watched it again at their shop. The place was packed and we had about a 45 minute wait. I had called ahead a few days prior and mentioned that this would be his first go around with a gun. When we arrived I referenced the earlier phone call. One of the managers, Keith, treated the little guy like a king. He gave him some free ammo and targets. Keith introduced us to Terri, who "sized" several of the .22 rental pistols for his smaller hands.

Terri took us out onto the range. She slowly, carefully and cautiously walked him through the process. Happily her emphasis was on his safety first and enjoyment second. The little guy went through about 100 rounds with the Ruger .22 before we moved onto some of my bigger stuff (.32 KelTec / .380 Walther / .38 SW / .40 Sig).

He had a blast! Keith and Terri were great with us. I normally shoot on a very big, well ventilated range. When I can't, or when I am with non-coworkers, Shooters of Maumee is a excellent option with a very knowledgeable, helpful staff. Cheers for the business and that goes double for the service.

Ace...you might want to check out gunteachers.com. Joe is a former coworker who knows his stuff and is a lot of fun to learn and train with. Whether a CCW class or just for enjoyment, he is a great resource. Coincidentally, he hosts classes at Shooters.

They have been pretty busy lately. Stopped in today to get some shooting in. They had 9mm but no 22LR, btw.
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Hey MadJack,* were you in there this morning? There was a gentleman who arrived wearing a Fedora, who later loaned me a pushpin for my target and I let him shoot my Mosin Nagant.

Was that you by any chance? I didn't think of it at the time, but did later.

No, it wasn't I. I haven't been shooting in a while now due to the cost of ammo.

Coincidentally I own one of those - bolt action, integral bayonet 7.62 × 54r. A real workhorse of a rifle, and the caliber is a man stopper. I've shot it enough to know that it requires a recoil pad if you're going to put many rounds through it. I think I paid $110 for the rifle and a box of ammo - I couldn't resist the deal. The rifle is surprisingly accurate.

I have a M44 Mosin carbine. I think I paid around $100. for it several years ago. Recoil is ok, with 150 gr. bullets. Shooting offhand makes the recoil much more tolerable. From the bench, I need a recoil pad, though. IMO, the best deal on the market for the money! I have the Russian model, in near mint condition. I'm looking for the Polish version, which is the nicest looking of the series.

Gotcha Jack. Figured it was worth the ask. Your "nondoppleganger" was very nice. I usually leave the mosin until I am almost done. It's pretty loud, so I run 5 or 10 rounds through it and pack up. The report often brings onlookers.

Sounds like you both have the M44. I have a couple of 91/30s that I got when they were cheaper. One is a hex from before the war, and one is a round receiver from 1943. The hex is pristine. Both have great bores. I would like an M44, but I've had other priorities and they are a couple hundred bucks now. I find the 91/30s to be incredibly accurate, all things considered.
I've not fired an M44, but I am told that they are one part rifle, and one part flamethrower.
I see that Classic Firearms has/had M44s in the bulk packs. They end up being about 190 a piece, I believe.

Anyone here have a K98? Where would I be able to get a nice one?

http://www.mauser.org/

"Anyone here have a K98? Where would I be able to get a nice one?

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What configuration? Condition--collector grade, all matching numbers? Mismatched shooter?

Does anyone here shoot at Maumee, and at Adams? How do they compare to each other besides one being mostly open air? The reason I ask is I haven't shot indoors in the last 45 years. Thanks!

where is adams?

Adams Conservation Club is on King Road in Springfield Township. Membership is $200/year.

I don't think that I have been to Adams in 45 years. Lol.
But I've mostly done outdoor rifle shooting.
Maumee is the first place that I have done indoor rifle.

Two different animals. Besides the aesthetic, 75 feet is shorter than any of my rifle optics are sighted at. So, open sights are ok, but anything with optics has to be held really low. Indoors is darker too. I'd rather deal with wind than dark shadows. So, really, in my opinion, a 75 foot indoor rifle range is just a place to do a little testing and preliminary sighting... Try out something new that you buy over the winter. Better than nothing, but not the same as being able to shoot outside at distances like the 200 yard at Adams. Hitting a bullseye ay 75 feet with a hunting rifle is not the same.

Here is an Adams thread link.

http://www.toledotalk.com/cgi-bin/tt.pl/article/79783

From JustRead: I've not fired an M44, but I am told that they are one part rifle, and one part flamethrower.

And one part howitzer. The thing makes enough racket to cause a stuffed crocodile to climb a tree. I wouldn't shoot mine indoors. If the spurt of flame out the barrel didn't set the target on fire, the noise would probably get me thrown out.

While it doesn't kick like a mule, I would not be inclined to run more than 20 shots through it before heading out to the bar for a little anesthetic.

From JustRead: I don't think that I have been to Adams in 45 years.

How old are you, anyway? I thought McCaskey was old, but this - well, even with the ubiquitous grain of salt, 45 years is a long time.

No offense, you understand. Just sayin'.

Say, do you do any muzzle loader with black powder shooting?

Is a 44 louder than a 91/30 because of the shorter barrel?
I have never been thrown out for shooting the 91/30 at SOM, but I keep it brief and mainly shoot other things, including plenty of 22. I don't stand there and run through a bunch of 7.62×54R and call it plinking.

The grain of salt was enormous today. I think that it has probably only been 25-30 years since I was at Adams.

I have done very little muzzle loader shooting. Just a couple of times with buddies' guns.

anyone interested in a small TT meetup at maumee indoor?

I'm game UPSO!

Interesting idea for a meetup.
Would be fun, but tough to visit/chat.

They have been pretty busy during normal hours. I've noticed that they do the range portion of the CCW class once a month before they open on Sunday mornings. Maybe if there was a big enough group, they would let us in an hour or two early one week when there is no CCW class. 12 lanes fill up quick these days. The word is out. When I go right when they open, when I am finished an hour or so later, there are people waiting for an open lane. I suppose the waiting for lanes could be the social hour.

I cant imagine GZ and AC in the same space with guns.

Sure, I'm up for it.

HistoryMike's a shooter and might be persuaded to come along. GuestZero is also a shooter.

AC, being a Moonbat, isn't a gun owner. But I'd welcome him along anyway. If he didn't want to shoot, he could picket for gun control while we're inside throwing lead.

How about we get there at opening time and have lunch or something afterwards?

Weekends work best for me!

Weekends OK for me as well!

Saturdays they open at 10:00am. Sundays they open at noon. I have had better luck with Saturdays as far as getting in quickly.

In April, the Sunday the 7th and 28th should probably be avoided. I think that they have CCW class range sessions and are busy before they even open.

In May, it is the 5th and 19th. Also in April, gun show the 11th.

From their website:
*The range is available for private group events and leagues before or after regular business hours or on Mondays.

Standard lane rates apply. The entire rental fleet of firearms is available for $50.*

a monday would be cool.

I say April above in error, but the gun show is May 11, not April 11.

I would make sure whoever goes is familiar with the specs on their weapon. The FPS is important metric when determining what we in the military call Surface Danger Zones (SDZ).

An SDZ is the possible riccochet area for every 1000 rounds of whatever caliber and each weapons has it's own. I have been on ranges where someone brought the wrong caliber weapon thinking that because it's a range it's ok only to have a close call with a riccochet. It is F***ing scary! Luckily no one got her and the individual who did that was quickly charged.

If my schedule permits, I'm game to go as well.

The penalty for making an error about the date of a gun show is that the accused must move to the front of the line and shoot first.

So.

I'm out of town this Saturday (4/6) but how about next Saturday (4/13/2013)? We could show up first thing in the morning.

Alternately, how about Monday 4/15/2013. We could go after work and shoot at IRS Agents...

in effigy only! The advantage is that I guess you can make reservations on Monday.

What do you guys think?

I'll keep both dates open.

monday's are cool after 2:30 for me!

Saturdays are better for me than mondays, but a monday could work. I'll call them and see if there is a minimum group size for a monday, just in case.

Depending on the Date & Time, I am interested in joining in.
One question: Do you have to buy their ammo or can you bring your own?

You may use your own ammo in your own weapon.
You must use their ammo in their rental guns.
You may also buy their ammo for your gun.

Last week, they had no 22lr.
But had .223 and 9mm. Not too bad, but more than the old days. I think that 50 rounds of 9mm was 17 bucks with tax. 20 rounds of .223 might have been 10.00.

The only ammo caution is that you can only use single projectiles. Shotgun slugs are ok. Buckshot is not.

Handguns may be used on the 6 rifle lanes. Most rifle shooters bring handguns also.

When I was about 19 I purchased a case of Remington Standard Velocity Kleenbore 22 LR (5000 rounds) for about $50 from someone who shot at the matches at Camp Perry. Since then I've shot less than one brick (500 rounds). I wonder what 4500 rounds of 48 year old 22 LR ammo would go for today?

Once a date is set I'll try to be there too.

Maybe we can set up a recurring time?

I was able to call today and spoke with Terri. If she recalls correctly, the minimum number of folks for a private group session on a Monday or after hours is 12 people. She recommended that I call Dan later today to confirm that. That would make it $240.00 for the group of twelve, plus $50.00 for group access to the rental pool. They'd like to schedule that a week or two in advance, so that they can coordinate staffing.

I am not so sure that we have 12 folks. I wonder if we should try an early Saturday morning first and gauge interest.

(I also wonder if Dan or Keith would open a little early on a Saturday for a small group, knowing that it would increase the day's take and get the lanes open sooner for his Saturday regulars.)

One other ammo note: no steel core rounds. I order some special rounds for my Mosin Nagant, so I don't use the surplus russian and bulgarian rounds there. (They are steel core.)

Let me just say that there is a strong chance (God willing and the creek don't rise) that I will be standing at the counter at 9:59am Saturday, April 13. If you are there too, say hello. I will be shooting on the rifle side. Often found in lane 7, when available. I look forward to meeting any other TT shooting enthusiasts that may wander by.

I think I've got some 9mm left and maybe some .45. So, Lord willing and the creek remaining dried up, I'll be there in the morning as well.

I have no .45, but I have 9mm to spare.