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Unemployment questions....

I just found myself with a very short notice regarding my employment. I've stumbled into problems regarding my unemployment. Can any of you recommend someone for me to talk to? Or if any of you have lots of knowledge and background in this, do you mind me talking to you privately? The help line for unemployment is worthless.

created by OhioKimono on Oct 15, 2012 at 10:21:33 pm     Business     Comments: 19

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Possibly someone at the Source on Monroe st could help you.

posted by ToledoLatina on Oct 15, 2012 at 10:37:22 pm     #  

Can you give a bit more information on your issues? It's hard to give advice without more information.

posted by upso on Oct 15, 2012 at 10:40:58 pm     #  

Message me.

posted by holland on Oct 15, 2012 at 10:52:05 pm     #  

SHORT HISTORY: had a verbal meeting about the position. During the meeting it was agreed upon that the company did not want someone to handle creative media and print, that they wanted more of a sales manager. I am not a sales manager - so they were getting rid of me for someone who was more of a sales manager. I was even offered a letter of recommendation. I have a beautiful portfolio of all the work I did.

This position was an experimental position for the company. There was no formal job description. More so, they lacked most of the tools, and media I needed. I never refused work: the only time I voiced a problem was if there was something that just wouldn't work.....like them telling me to shoot a 25 ft long item in an 8×8 studio. There were also issues where I was told to violate copyright law, but refused to do so. I made extra certain to be very elegant and graceful about leaving the position.

PROBLEM IS: When filing unemployment - the company denied that I had been laid off due to lack of work. They have informed the unemployment offices that I was fired for failing to perform my duties.

.....what now?! I don't have much of a savings built - I totaled my car in a work related accident in July, which devastated my meager savings. I need unemployment to get by while I job hunt.

posted by OhioKimono on Oct 15, 2012 at 11:19:50 pm     #  

Also, I have forgotten how to privately contact people on here. Terrible sorry.

posted by OhioKimono on Oct 15, 2012 at 11:22:42 pm     #  

I'm sorry to hear of your problems. Here are some instructions about private messaging.

For private messaging:

1. log in to ToledoTalk
result: maniacal laughter somewhat reminiscent of Vincent Price
2. click your user name which is found in the top right portion of the screen
result: your user profile is displayed
3. click on your micro blog, which is the next to the last item in the list
result: your micro blog is displayed

To send a message:
1. Within the little text box, type the word "to" without the quotes, followed by the colon punctuation mark, then the username, then at least one space, and then the message.
Example on the next line:
to:madjack You sure are looking good today! Meet me for a drink later on?

2. Click on the little blue item labeled "Post(250 characters max)" that is right under the little text box.
result: your message is sent and appears in the message list below the text box with a gray background.

3. After sending a private message, a copy of the sent message will appear on your micro blog page with a grey background, and it's only visible to you. If you don't see the grey background, then you made an error in your syntax. Hit the delete link for the post and try again.

There you have it.

In this day and age I tend to think you'll get your unemployment. There are a lot of knowledgeable people on TT who are willing to help you - Holland is an excellent source of information. If you need anything that I can provide just send me some email - my email address is listed in the fine print on the Shack.

posted by madjack on Oct 15, 2012 at 11:53:56 pm     #  

Sorry you got fired. First, you should still file with unemployment to receive benefits. The unemployment bureau will determine if you are eligible. Everything you said on this thread, say to the unemployment insurance staff when applying. They do not always take the employers' word. I know that for a fact. Good luck.

posted by renegade on Oct 16, 2012 at 02:54:09 am     #   1 person liked this

renegade's advice is right on target. Explain what happened in writing on the appeal forms. If the arguments and facts you supply to unemployment have the ring of plausibility most very likely you get your benefits, especially if the company has no written documentation, acknowleged by you by signature or initials of any previous warnings about poor performance.

I had a deuce of time firing people who had I warned three times and had documentation to prove it. The first warning was verbal. The second and third were in writing and signed by both me and the employee. The warnings carried explicit wording of the employee policy violation, date and method of the violation. Unemployment is well aware that companies will do whatever they can to avoid a benefit claim. Unless your company has written documentation or your explanations are not plausible you will very probably prevail. Just keep on filing all the forms before any deadlines.

posted by holland on Oct 16, 2012 at 06:13:57 am     #  

Be sure to include that you were asked to violate any laws. Supply exactly how, in what manner and who's copyright you were asked to violate. That alone is probably a saver for you.

posted by holland on Oct 16, 2012 at 06:16:57 am     #   2 people liked this

Also, include a copy of the letter of recommendation they wrote (hopefully you accepted their offer to do one for you).

The appeal process for unemployment is not very complicated, but it can be time consuming. I don't recall if there is an expedited option, so you should check into that and request it, if available.

The Source probably won't be able to help you with this issue since you've already filed the initial request, but they may have other resources to help you get by until a decision on the appeal.

Good luck

posted by MaggieThurber on Oct 16, 2012 at 09:05:29 am     #  

They offered it verbally. Since they have not sent it. I do have a email referring to one being written and sent to me.

I also have stacks of work I did do - and frankly I did a hell of a lot.

posted by OhioKimono on Oct 16, 2012 at 09:13:19 am     #  

Also, even if your first appeal is still denied, keep appealing, eventually a hearing will be called, keep appealing after that, eventually they will get tired of the time and money that they are wasting and eventually it may go through. It worked for me a long time ago when i was unjustly terminated.

And keep filling out the required forms that you normally would fill out if you were receiving benefits, that way once its approved you will get the back pay.

posted by tm2 on Oct 16, 2012 at 09:30:27 am     #   2 people liked this

And keep filling out the required forms that you normally would fill out if you were receiving benefits, that way once its approved you will get the back pay.

Put that in bold type and don't forget it. The people that handle unemployment are bureaucrats before they are anything else. That means that if they see the correct forms filled out they will find in favor of the author of those forms, no matter what the reality of the situation is. Go figure, right? So if you are following the correct procedure and your ex-employer is not, the clerical staff must follow the rules and start you on unemployment. If your employer continues to pursue the case it will eventually end up on the desk of someone authorized to make a decision, and I'm confident that they'll take one look at this and tell the company to pay up.

Your ex-employer tried to hose you over. If you quit, they'll succeed.

posted by madjack on Oct 16, 2012 at 11:18:35 am     #   4 people liked this

Hope things turn around for you OhioKimono.

posted by INeedCoffee on Oct 17, 2012 at 09:51:14 am     #  

So, I won my unemployment. It was ruled that I was terminated from my position without just cause. I still really don't grasp what happened beyond the company having unrealistic expectations and demands.

Now the problem I face is...I did amazing work for that company. The pieces of work I did are prizes in my portfolio - yet if I reference this employment it looks bad. I am new into my career, what do I do? Should I throw out all the prized portfolio pieces I created....or keep them and try and gently explain what happened with the position?

posted by OhioKimono on Nov 06, 2012 at 11:53:12 am     #  

Put the employer proudly on your CV, and be sure to showcase your work. When prospective employers ask why you are not still working there, you can tell them whatever you want that is believable (and has at least an element of truth to it):

  • "The company fell into financial difficulties and my position was eliminated."
  • "The company no longer wanted to do this work in-house, and the position was eliminated in favor of external contractors."

I am not telling you to lie, but due to liability issues, former employers are very reluctant to go into specifics about the reasons why a person was let go. Unless you committed some henious crime, no one at the old employer is likely to tell new employers very much.

If you can do so, ask for a letter of reference from someone at the old company. This will at least bolster your inclusion of the employment on your CV.

posted by historymike on Nov 06, 2012 at 12:09:14 pm     #   1 person liked this

OhioKimono - If it is in your portfolio my guess is no one will question it. Simply saying this is work I did for X would suffice.

posted by Molsonator on Nov 06, 2012 at 01:28:52 pm     #   1 person liked this

I still really don't grasp what happened...

You probably pissed someone off. That person was either highly placed or had close friends in high places, hence you were first made to be miserable at work and then shown the door. This isn't your fault; this is what happens sometimes.

HistoryMike said it best. Do not throw the work away; showcase it and when you're asked why you left explain it as budgeting and market demand for the product/service.

posted by madjack on Nov 06, 2012 at 05:49:37 pm     #  

I was in the state job office today...asked about your situation. It is suggested that you respond to the denial , outline your situation and there is a chance you may get qualified. I learned also that the extensions, all of them, will expire at the end of December, adding to the number of people out of a job with no hope for benefits and a false low unemployment number as the new year begins.

posted by max on Nov 07, 2012 at 06:29:03 pm     #