East Toledoans lean Democrat? Whaaaaa??!?!

Damn, and I thought the gangs moving into the neighborhood gave us a bad reputation. Now this. Funny how most of the names mentioned in the article don't even live here and Oregon doesn't count as East Toledo!

$90k divinity degree is pretty good if you're a massive bullshit artist who can get your own mega-"church" started.

Is that different from a newspaper editor?

Well, let's think about this.

• Newspaper editors generally don't tell people to believe in an invisible man in the sky and that you'll go to a hot burny place if you don't.

• Newspaper editors generally have been to a "real" school for at least 4 years to get a journalism degree.

• Newspaper editors generally have much better writing, grammar, and punctuation skills than many people with a divinity degree.

Newspaper editors wont have a job for much longer if readership continues to decline.

Sure they will, it will just be online.

We did Editors.
Now let's do publishers:

-Publishers drop from the womb, attend Maumee Valley Country Club Day School and proceed to run media empires while marrying women much taller than them.

"Newspaper editors generally have much better writing, grammar, and punctuation skills than many people with a divinity degree."

Most people with divinity degrees are vowed or ordained members religious orders and of established churches who have been afforded the very best educations at top private schools. They are graduate degrees, often held by people with multiple graduate degrees.
Perhaps you know more people with divinity degrees than I do, but the ones that I know (like several Catholic Bishops with Doctorates in Divinity) are among the most educated and skilled writers that you could come across.

You can believe your opinion is a fact, but that believe doesn't make it so.

You failed to answer my question.

You can't make this stuff up:

I wondered who the hell Angela Zimmann is. So I checked.

She has a DIVINITY degree and teaches WRITING at BGSU.
And technically... she is on the east side of the river, and a democrat, so she is perfect on this thread.
Love the photo of Obama groping her on her BGSU page. That must be her favorite photo like, ever.

justread - Way to twist the facts to suit your viewpoint. Here is the truth about Zimmann's educational record:

She has 3 degrees and is a Lutheran pastor.

B.S., Industrial Engineering, University of Toledo
M.Div., Pastoral Ministry, Lutheran Theological Seminary at Gettysburg
PhD, Rhetoric and Composition, Bowling Green State University

Your omissions in the context of this thread make your attempt to compare her to the subject of the article a failure.

I was only trying to share something that I found ironic and made me giggle. (Divinity degree... writing... never mind.)

She is an east-sider of course, only in the context that Perrysburgers and Rossfordians are east siders. (Hint: joke.)

As far as "true" goes, what part of the divinity degree and the fact that she teaches writing at BGSU are you calling me out for?

You are probably really fun at parties.

Didn't Zimmann go to Springfield HS?

Yes, and apparently she lives in Springfield Township. That excludes her from being from the east side by anyone's standards.

justread - I was calling you out for selectively omitting facts to justify your political views. I won't speculate as to what the premise of your statement is, but you were trying to discredit Zimmann's education based on the tone and content of this thread and the Blade article. Nice ad hominem by the way. It, along with your thinly veiled misogyny, add a lot to your argument.

I think that you have speculated enough to keep right on speculating. Note: If you ARE fun at parties, disregard the brutal "attack" on you. :)

My political views have nothing to do with the irony I found that she had a divinity degree and taught writing. I honestly didn't know who she was, and honestly went looking.
(You see, earlier on, someone suggested that people with divinity degrees were not as good at writing as people with journalism degrees... so when I found that she had a divinity degree and taught writing, it reminded me of that point, which made me giggle.)
I happen to VALUE divinity degrees, as was shared earlier in the thread. I am not particularly a supporter of Latta, and never have been. Any inference that she was under-educated was brought to this thread in someone else's baggage.
I do find her Obama encounter photo on the BGSU site kind of funny, too.

Oh and as far as editors being better at spelling and grammar, you should tell that to the Monroe Evening News, they either don't have an editor or their editor can't spell or doesn't know punctuation. That is pretty bad coming from me, because my grammar and punctuation sucks, but then I don't claim to be an intellect like AC or SensorG.

I claimed to be an intellect? Then again my use facts and math and stats probably make me seem that way to you…

The article would have been more accurate 25 years ago. It was and still is a heavily Democrat voting area. But too many people have moved, and there are too many renters living there now, for it to have the close-knit ties it once had.

Ok, never mind, "my use facts"?

Sister Mary Margaret taught me more about grammar than a newspaper editor (I had three as professors in college). Newspapers are written to the lowest common denominator so the public can understand it. As an unfavorable consequence the grammar declines.

I will say the editors were friendlier.

I still remember when Sister Mary asked me "Isn't it 'i' before 'e' except after 'c'?" to which I responded affirmatively. She then wrote in really big letters on the chalk board WEIRD!

Also A/C. Most editors are promoted from in the journalist ranks. Most journalists don't have a journalism degree.

In fact, many with journalism degrees become disenchanted with the little pay and take jobs as PR people. Why PR? They followed the advice of Willy Sutton "That's where the money is."