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Neighbor's lights

Anyone know if there is something that can help me in this situation: the neighbors installed a security light on the driveway side, halfway down the drive. The problem is they don't care that it is on all night and that the light shines in/on the bedroom side of my home. They won't take it down because of a past break in to their truck. I can't find a law or ordinance for lights or light pollution.

created by smbfc on Nov 01, 2012 at 04:18:49 pm     Home     Comments: 21

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I'll be watching this thread closely. Good luck!

Our neighbor has mounted a security light as a ceiling light on their front porch. It's overly sensitive, and turns on every time a car drives by or someone walks down the sidewalk. Plus, one of the huge bulbs is pointed directly at our house, and it lights up our porch brighter than daylight.

I LOVE my porch, but rarely sit out there anymore because of this stupid 'light pollution' issue. I would love to put an end to it.

posted by gamegrrl on Nov 01, 2012 at 04:25:40 pm     #  

Unfortunately, there are laws against well placed bb's/hammers/baseball bats in these situations...

Good luck.

posted by oldhometown on Nov 01, 2012 at 04:25:52 pm     #   2 people liked this

By the way, it's actually referred to as "light trespass". I haven't had a chance to thoroughly look into any applicable laws or ordinances.

posted by gamegrrl on Nov 01, 2012 at 04:35:09 pm     #  

get a bigger light and return the favor

posted by jhop on Nov 01, 2012 at 05:10:53 pm     #  

Your best bet is to politely ask them if they can change the angle of the bulb. The industry standard for glare reduction is a maximum 85-degree angle from vertical; here is an example with a recessed light that I found online:

If they refuse, I am unaware of (nor could I find) any state or local code requirements that directly deal with light pollution / light trespass.

posted by historymike on Nov 01, 2012 at 05:14:15 pm     #   1 person liked this

419 245 1201 - plan commission; if there is a relevant law they will know.

good luck; sounds like neighbor from hell

posted by enjoyeverysandwich on Nov 01, 2012 at 05:14:46 pm     #  

Or... you could light-proof your room by using light-blocking blinds, curtains, and/or shades.

posted by historymike on Nov 01, 2012 at 05:17:55 pm     #   1 person liked this

Their bedrooms are on the other side, so returning the favor would like their inside staircase and landing. There are good blinds to block out the light, but we also like to have fresh air...

posted by smbfc on Nov 01, 2012 at 05:32:37 pm     #  

Could you suggest that they make it a motion-sensor light instead of it being on all night? (If you haven't already.) I mean, frankly, I'd want to know if someone was walking around my bedroom window in the dead of night, so a motion sensor might be a win-win for everyone. Thanks, neighbors! You might even offer to help pay half toward the switch? The lights aren't very expensive, actually.

posted by jmleong on Nov 01, 2012 at 07:35:22 pm     #  

Like jmleong said, what they really want is a motion sensor. That being the case if they won't listen to reason you could try suing them in court. I have no ideas about winning.

Using a pellet gun on the light comes to the front of my mind, and I think that if it were my sleep that is being destroyed I wouldn't hesitate to get rid of the light.

posted by madjack on Nov 02, 2012 at 01:35:55 pm     #  

An equally subversive (but less vandalous) scheme might be to take a ladder over there when they are at work and just reposition the angle of the light. They come home no wiser, you get sleep, and truck thieves get the same luminescent deterrent.

Better still: put on overalls, borrow a pickup truck, print a tacky sign on your computer like "JOE BOB'S LIGHT SERVICE," and drive right on up. No one in the neighborhood will even so much as blink.

posted by historymike on Nov 02, 2012 at 02:54:32 pm     #  

Has the original poster even asked them to adjust their light?

posted by Linecrosser on Nov 02, 2012 at 03:02:20 pm     #  

"Or... you could light-proof your room by using light-blocking blinds, curtains, and/or shades."

Had to do that myself because I live near a business that installed very bright lights after a rash of burglaries. It works very very well.

posted by renegade on Nov 08, 2012 at 12:20:51 am     #   1 person liked this

Get blackout curtains. Problem solved.

posted by OhioKimono on Nov 08, 2012 at 03:16:34 pm     #  

How did Kramer handle it when the Kenny Rogers Roasters light kept him awake all night?

posted by shamrock44 on Nov 08, 2012 at 04:16:38 pm     #   4 people liked this

shamrock44 posted at 03:16:38 PM on Nov 08, 2012:

How did Kramer handle it when the Kenny Rogers Roasters light kept him awake all night?

Kramer exchanged apartments with Jerry who struggled to deal with the lights and eventually assumed a personality like Kramer even to the point that Jerry became friends with Bob Sacamano. News that you can use.

posted by jr on Nov 08, 2012 at 04:32:51 pm     #   2 people liked this

shamrock44 posted at 03:16:38 PM on Nov 08, 2012:

How did Kramer handle it when the Kenny Rogers Roasters light kept him awake all night?

Awesome. :)

posted by justread on Nov 08, 2012 at 08:25:32 pm     #  

I'm actually thinking of getting some sort of roll-down shade for the north end of our porch, but I hate to do it. I don't care for the look, and it kind of annoys me that I'd be spending money on something that I don't care for just because someone else is being thoughtless. Sure would be nice to be able to enjoy my porch again though.

posted by gamegrrl on Nov 09, 2012 at 12:58:41 am     #  

I have thoughtless neighbors who work different shifts and let three barking dogs out at any random time around the clock. They drive their tractor over my lawn, blow their leaves into my lawn, leave their dog crap in the yard until their dogs eat it, they don't maintain their house, they let the backyard go to dirt and they come out and run the mower over the dirt/dog poo powder mix until their is a cloud all over the block which settles on my patio, grill, cars, and garden.

I'll trade you for that light. Buying a shade is a solution.
There is no solution to what my neighbors do.
Well... no legal solution.
Being stupid is protected by many laws.

posted by justread on Nov 09, 2012 at 07:49:59 am     #  

You win, justread. Eww.

The neighbor with the light also has a little barky dog that often runs the neighborhood. When he returns home bright and early in the morning, he barks at the front door to be let in. For hours. And hours.

File under 'Weird but Funny': That dog is on Facebbok. So is my dog. One Sunday morning after we were awakened before sunrise by the neighbor dog's barking, my dog posted on that dog's Facebook wall -- "Dude. Seriously?"

posted by gamegrrl on Nov 09, 2012 at 08:03:47 am     #   3 people liked this

Weird but hilarious.

posted by justread on Nov 09, 2012 at 08:44:02 pm     #