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Irish Eyes Pub on Secor

Just saw the storefront along Secor Road, in a strip mall. Their sign is up and I suppose they'll be open soon, as announced in the City Paper:

"Toledo will have a new destination for fans of the Emerald Isle, as Irish Eyes Heavenly Pub opens at the end of November. Toledoans Kyle Rahal (of Port Royal Cigars) and Stan Burton are launching the Irish pub on Secor Road, next to Subway. Irish Eyes will feature authentic Irish cuisine, courtesy of Chef John Keane, 10 to 12 beers on tap (Irish and European!) and live music on weekends. 3324 Secor Rd."

I kinda feel sorry for any new business along that stretch of Secor, which will get the orange-barrel treatment starting in February of next year.

created by viola on Nov 25, 2012 at 07:49:10 pm     Food     Comments: 69

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Just a thought on the orange barrels. The city could perhaps balance its budget by selling ads on them.

posted by max on Nov 25, 2012 at 08:26:32 pm     #   2 people liked this

I think that place will do great as long as they're providing a great product. It's so close to the 475 entrance, lots of toledoans will support it.

Also QQ kitchen is in the strip mall, and they are busy 24-7

posted by upso on Nov 25, 2012 at 09:13:20 pm     #  

^ You're right about that! QQ Kitchen is so good, it will be helping out their commercial neighbors with the steady traffic!

posted by viola on Nov 26, 2012 at 08:43:17 am     #   2 people liked this

Visited QQ Kitchen this weekend and it was great. Very limited seating so take away is really the best option. Looks like the new Irish place is going to be really a big space! Wishing the new biz lots of luck!

posted by RockChick on Nov 26, 2012 at 12:57:10 pm     #  

Hope Irish Eyes works out the kinks. Went there last Friday and grabbed a seat at the bar. Fairly crowded overall between tables and bar patrons and slightly understaffed. Much confusion behind the bar trying to determine tickets and servers requesting drinks without entering them. Manager or Owner wsa not happy. The one poor girl was having a terrible night. She dropped a tray of large drinks next to the bar and made a terrible commotion. A guy comes out with a mop, and falls on his butt, trying to clean up. They repour a tall Guiness for the same girl and knocks it right over back into the bar. This continued for a while, and I left without ordering food. almost felt like there should have been a cover charge for the entertainment.

posted by Hoops on Jan 08, 2013 at 11:29:28 am     #   1 person liked this

Hoops - I went on Friday as well and that was my table's drinks that were dropped! Our server was frazzled from the moment she walked up to the table - she was nice but service was horribly slow for the entire meal. It was probably 30 minutes before she actually took our order and then another 45 minutes before the food showed up.

The food was poor to mediocre at best for everyone at the table. I think it might turn into a good place to grab a drink but I don't think I'll be going back for dinner.

posted by idinspired on Jan 08, 2013 at 11:50:16 am     #  

I think instead of investing in the stock market I should have invested in orange paint.

posted by jackie on Jan 08, 2013 at 11:54:34 am     #  

Unfortunately, it's a very bad location for several reasons including heavy traffic and not the safest place at night.

posted by Elva on Jan 08, 2013 at 11:54:03 pm     #  

have stopped in a couple times...

the food is ok. i had the lamb stew which was fairly good though i think it would do better as a beef stew for most peoples taste. it comes in a bread bowl which was good but fairly bland and should have been cooked more... slightly doughy, not crusted. my daughter got sheperds pie which was nice - hard to screw up, hard to make great. the appetizer of flat bread with toppings was actually a nice change of pace.

the draft beer selection is strictly european which is a nice change from the usual bud-blue moon-stella selection... guiness, newcastle, smidwick, murphys, killkenny and a couple others... but i think a couple US craft beers would help keep interest from beer drinkers going. also, not an overwhelming number of TVs which is good. sitting at the bar and watching hockey will work without having an A.D.D. attack from sensory overload from too many monitors (back room at nick's; any number of other sports bars)

they set up the stage well and i look forward to seeing bands there. there in no seperation of the bar patrons from the dining patron which i think would help... its all one large open space which still feels strip-mall rather than any comfortable cozy type setting other than one large table set off on its own in a niche... they should repeat that gesture a few times.

i am hoping the heavy traffic helps the bar providing they survive the coming secor reconstruction. its not an unsafe area?! and the additional people coming and going should help. the parking lot is an absolute mess and needs to be reconfigured.

posted by enjoyeverysandwich on Jan 09, 2013 at 10:58:26 am     #  

I have no great safety concerns in that area at night. As in any parking area, you need to be aware of your surroundings and be alert.

Agree - the parking lot lends itself more towards a demolition derby than orderly parking.

posted by Foodie on Jan 09, 2013 at 11:35:10 am     #   2 people liked this

latest word is that they have lost staff already and the remaining staff is dis-spirited. the owner is the cigar shop guy (in the same plaza) but does not seem to know the bar/restaurant business very well... but probably thinks he is smarter than experienced staff.

i have been there 5 or 6 times and hope it works but they do things very strange. week night music starts at 10 and runs past 1 a.m.; i'm looking to go home by then (if the hockey is over). the euro-beers are a nice change but it would still make sense to have a couple US micro available on draft. the staff must be instructioned on how to interact with customers and it is really awkward feeling... kinda creepy.

the realy ought clear off the damn windows (maybe more like nicks) and do something to make it more cozy rather than a bowling alley in a strip mall.

posted by enjoyeverysandwich on Feb 19, 2013 at 05:00:04 pm     #  

I'm with you on the cozy thing, EES. Been there once, I'm Irish and a Smithwick's man. Felt like I was drinking at a Verizon store and not a bar or someplace that wants to be a "pub". Our bartender was nice enough, darn near personable. However, I would like to slap whoever thought the "Irish accent" used in their radio commercial was acceptable.

posted by TrilbyGuy on Feb 19, 2013 at 05:55:17 pm     #  

Flatbread appetizer was delish - had the garlic sauce w hamburger, tomatoes and onions. The homemade chips were amazing. My husband had the bacon wrapped chicken kabobs - said they were great as well. We will be going back here!

posted by ajm00733 on Feb 19, 2013 at 06:02:40 pm     #  

I'm with those who say the atmosphere is ... meh. It does have a weird, fakey-feel to it. Bad, bad lighting. Also agree on beer selections. While a big fan of more varied beer options, I would also like to see some U.S. craft beers. Truth is, I don't much care for most of their draft options -- and I'm one of those people who will never drink a Budweiser or Anything American Lite. Only food I've had was a burger. It was OK, but nothing to write home about. Not anyplace I'd go out of my way for again.

posted by luvtoledo on Feb 19, 2013 at 07:52:00 pm     #  

Not sure why so many people are complaining about an Irish place serving Irish beers and not American Craft beers. We have plenty of options in Toledo to drink the "hey lets dump some more hops in this" craft beers. Personally I'm glad to have another option for Imports.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Feb 20, 2013 at 09:53:10 am     #  

In_vin_veritas posted at 08:53:10 AM on Feb 20, 2013:

Not sure why so many people are complaining about an Irish place serving Irish beers and not American Craft beers. We have plenty of options in Toledo to drink the "hey lets dump some more hops in this" craft beers. Personally I'm glad to have another option for Imports.

Are you saying Toledo lacks options for the endless less-hoppy craft beers?

posted by researcher on Feb 20, 2013 at 10:17:19 am     #  

HOPS SLAM!

posted by stooks on Feb 20, 2013 at 10:46:37 am     #  

I can't speak for the food, but when we stopped for an after dinner drink a few weeks ago, the bartender was a pleasant surprise. Of course, it could be that I'm comparing it the last time I went to a newly opened place, which was just unpleasant all around--and we gave it two tries.

We'll see how it is on Friday when we go to see The Blue Kazoo play. I'm curious what the acoustics are going to be like for live music.

posted by valbee on Feb 20, 2013 at 02:14:56 pm     #  

@researcher. I just found it amusing that people would complain about an Irish place focusing on Irish beers I mean I haven't seen one mention of.......... wait for it.......a "Mexican restaurant " thread on here complaining they only have Corona and Dos Equis

posted by In_vin_veritas on Feb 21, 2013 at 03:21:03 pm     #  

in wine truth - i am the only one who came close to a complaint about the beer... and what i said was i like the euro beer selection but thought they ought to diversify somewhat... probably a good business decision frankly. and if the only american craft beer you are having is the high hopped stuff that is your own fault... there is a wide variety of great micros including in euro styles.

posted by enjoyeverysandwich on Feb 21, 2013 at 03:31:09 pm     #  

Good German beers are always hard to find on tap it seems in the Toledo area.

posted by Dappling2 on Feb 21, 2013 at 03:56:10 pm     #  

dappling... i am not well versed in german beers... i like warsteiner dunkel but dont know many more. i did read that inbev bought and ruined the becks brands. any recommendations. some of the better mexican beers are very similar brown lagers to the germans.

posted by enjoyeverysandwich on Feb 21, 2013 at 04:18:31 pm     #  

Dappling - The Attic has recently had some Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier on tap. At times the Blarney will have drafts from Paulaner and Weihenstephaner.

posted by brainswell on Feb 21, 2013 at 05:03:46 pm     #  

Those are both good beers. InBev did buy Becks. It is made in the US now and the quality has dropped off. Wars reined is a great beer. Bitburger is good as well. I do like various Mexican beers such as Pacifico and DoEquis

posted by Dappling2 on Feb 21, 2013 at 07:34:55 pm     #  

My recent posts have been poorly typed as I am using my daughters iPad. The flat touch screen is not conducive for accuracy. In the post above, I meant "warsteiner."

posted by Dappling2 on Feb 21, 2013 at 10:55:20 pm     #  

News flash! Irish Eyes, which has been closed for "renovations" now has a sign on the building touting "Pompora's Italian Kitchen." Not open yet.

posted by viola on Oct 11, 2013 at 10:21:44 am     #  

viola posted at 10:21:44 AM on Oct 11, 2013:

News flash! Irish Eyes, which has been closed for "renovations" now has a sign on the building touting "Pompora's Italian Kitchen." Not open yet.

Yeah, somebody told me about that a couple weeks ago. Too bad, I really liked it there. Great beer and a fun atmosphere. With such a saturated market, opening a bar in Toledo is such a huge risk.

posted by clt212 on Oct 11, 2013 at 10:51:59 am     #  

that part of town does not need any more italian. it better be good!

posted by upso on Oct 11, 2013 at 10:52:06 am     #  

I would bet that the location will do well now that we're on the other side of construction for secor. that spot might blow up a bit with the new development going on around the old theaters, too.

posted by endcycle on Oct 11, 2013 at 11:10:51 am     #  

So is this yet another attempt by Ken Pompora ??????????

posted by Hoops on Oct 11, 2013 at 11:34:56 am     #  

I really enjoyed the Irish Eyes - too bad. The food was amazing there! I told many people about this place too. Oh well...

posted by ajm00733 on Oct 11, 2013 at 01:32:10 pm     #  

If it is Pompora, I won't be patronizing the place. 'Nuff said.

posted by Brewster on Oct 11, 2013 at 07:01:41 pm     #  

i live close by and really wanted irish eyes to be a go to bar... i tried a dozens times or so but the atmosphere stunk and the owners was a jerk... made the wait staff miserable. food was decent, beer selection fair.

i am calling the new place "italian eyes"

posted by enjoyeverysandwich on Oct 14, 2013 at 01:49:28 am     #  

Pompora works for a gym and has no ownership in this place, nor has he ever had ownership in any bar in town. He was nothing more than a manager and a poor one at that. Why the owners of this place are using his name is a mystery and is going to cost them a ton of money.

posted by HickoryG on Oct 14, 2013 at 09:20:45 am     #  

UM, so nobody else in town is named Pompora, only Ken?

posted by nana on Oct 14, 2013 at 10:09:19 pm     #  

^^ unfortunately Kenny has ruined that last name for his entire family in this area.

posted by slowsol on Oct 15, 2013 at 08:35:04 am     #   1 person liked this

Well, the signs are now down for the Italian place. Not sure what's happening.

posted by Postal on Oct 27, 2013 at 08:22:53 am     #  

Probably going to be a grilled cheese place now.

posted by slowsol on Oct 27, 2013 at 08:24:39 am     #   1 person liked this

Maybe the owners are watching this thread.

posted by mixman on Oct 27, 2013 at 06:08:08 pm     #  

A new sign is up with a new name and it's still Italian. What's the over/ under on how long this one will be around?

posted by Postal on Oct 27, 2013 at 06:56:49 pm     #  

Just drove past. Not sure who's doing their signage but it looks cheaply done. Almost as bad as the sign on the back of their Paddy Jack's in downtown Sylvania. Looks like they let a high school kid come up with the design.

posted by idinspired on Oct 28, 2013 at 01:57:00 pm     #  

Wow... In the parking lot now. Sign looks awful

posted by upso on Oct 28, 2013 at 02:22:22 pm     #  

Yes, the sign looks very amateurish--Grappo's Ristorante. My money is on it closing by spring 2014.

Why anyone would choose to open a restaurant in that ratty strip mall is beyond me.

posted by Starr15 on Oct 29, 2013 at 02:04:33 pm     #   1 person liked this

Why anyone would choose to open a restaurant in a ratty, dying town, that is already littered with strip malls and two bit mom/pop greasy spoons is is beyond me. You can't spit in this town and not hit a "adult store" or a poorly ran mom and pop food shop.

"According to Cornell University and the National Restaurant Association, 60% of restaurants fail within the first three years of operation. After five years, the number might be as high as 75%." - And those are NATIONAL numbers that include markets that are not dumpster fires like Toledo. In a booming market like Dallas/Ft. Worth that has an infinitely better economy and ranks second in per-capita spending on food away from home still has a first year failure rate of 23% and over a 4 year period a 40% failure rate.

Suckers born every minute.

posted by dbw8906 on Oct 29, 2013 at 03:53:53 pm     #  

I checked out the sign and it's not that bad. You guys should give these people a break - at least they changed the name from Pompora's. How about trying the food and then talking about whether or not it's going to close in six months? There is another hole-in-the-wall restaurant in an older, not particuarly appealing strip mall nearby, and it's called Calvino's. They have good food and have been open a long time. Don't judge a book...

posted by mixman on Oct 29, 2013 at 04:41:55 pm     #  

dbw8906 posted at 03:53:53 PM on Oct 29, 2013:

Why anyone would choose to open a restaurant in a ratty, dying town, that is already littered with strip malls and two bit mom/pop greasy spoons is is beyond me. You can't spit in this town and not hit a "adult store" or a poorly ran mom and pop food shop.

"According to Cornell University and the National Restaurant Association, 60% of restaurants fail within the first three years of operation. After five years, the number might be as high as 75%." - And those are NATIONAL numbers that include markets that are not dumpster fires like Toledo. In a booming market like Dallas/Ft. Worth that has an infinitely better economy and ranks second in per-capita spending on food away from home still has a first year failure rate of 23% and over a 4 year period a 40% failure rate.

Suckers born every minute.

....you must be an absolute peach at parties.

posted by endcycle on Oct 29, 2013 at 05:03:32 pm     #   4 people liked this

I don't know--the sign reminds me a little like an Andy Hardy "Let's start a restaurant" moment. Anyway, I'm thinking that if the Irish Eyes Pub was as good as several posters mentioned and it couldn't survive in that location, then this Italian place won't last. I guess we'll see.

I have been to Calvino's a few times, but would have to say I consider it in a better location (Cricket West) than the Secor strip mall--but that's just my expectations.

posted by Starr15 on Oct 29, 2013 at 09:31:30 pm     #  

Bring back the Open Closet, the Oriental massage place and the large adult movie theater circa 1981. Memories......

posted by Star56 on Oct 29, 2013 at 10:13:20 pm     #  

location in theory is perfect for anything. direct highway access
secor, monroe & central access as well
plus QQ kitchen is there and it's KILLING it
the homedepot is always busy etc...
you just need the "right" fit

posted by upso on Oct 29, 2013 at 10:26:02 pm     #  

endcycle - Sorry if I come off as grumpy but to start a restaurant you must have some capital, I just don't understand how you could risk your life's fortune in a market like Toledo. Most people only get one chance at success and to gamble on Toledo you have bigger stones than I do. If something like the "Docks" can't make money, good luck hocking hot dogs and Mexican food.

Sucker's bet.

posted by dbw8906 on Oct 30, 2013 at 07:02:14 am     #  

Yeah, why would you start a restaurant in an area where two hotels are opening in a few months? Nobody who stays in hotels ever eats out.

posted by Anniecski on Oct 30, 2013 at 09:08:38 am     #   5 people liked this

dbw8906-By that logic, no one should ever open a restaurant anywhere. Do you think it's harder to succeed in Toledo or Chicago? That location, while it has not been necessarily managed well, sits between Old Orchard, Lincolnshire and Ottawa Hills. Thousands or residents and homeowners. Prediction : If it's good, it will succeed, if it's bad, it will fail. Location is NOT an issue here. QQ is crazy successful, and that is one of the most profitable locations for Cafe/ Scrambler Marie in the entire area.

posted by ahmahler on Oct 30, 2013 at 09:18:48 am     #  

Anniecski posted at 09:08:38 AM on Oct 30, 2013:

Yeah, why would you start a restaurant in an area where two hotels are opening in a few months? Nobody who stays in hotels ever eats out.

THIS.

...okay, someone wanna back me? Let's open some stuff. :)

posted by endcycle on Oct 30, 2013 at 11:59:58 am     #  

Just drove by and another new sign is up, "West Side Bistro". Equally poor design to the Grappa's sign. At this point all of the name changing is just laughable. At least their sign company is getting some business...

posted by idinspired on Jan 09, 2014 at 05:04:51 pm     #  

Maybe they are shooting an episode of kitchen nightmares?

posted by upso on Jan 09, 2014 at 05:15:31 pm     #   2 people liked this

endcycle posted at 10:59:58 AM on Oct 30, 2013:
Anniecski posted at 09:08:38 AM on Oct 30, 2013:

Yeah, why would you start a restaurant in an area where two hotels are opening in a few months? Nobody who stays in hotels ever eats out.

THIS.

...okay, someone wanna back me? Let's open some stuff. :)

Ok. I'm in. But I get a monthly free dinner allowance and NO bathroom vending machines.

posted by justread on Jan 09, 2014 at 05:25:21 pm     #  

I hope everyone who has worked with the revolving restaurants, gets paid.

posted by Molsonator on Jan 09, 2014 at 05:29:10 pm     #  

justread posted at 04:25:21 PM on Jan 09, 2014:
endcycle posted at 10:59:58 AM on Oct 30, 2013:
Anniecski posted at 09:08:38 AM on Oct 30, 2013:

Yeah, why would you start a restaurant in an area where two hotels are opening in a few months? Nobody who stays in hotels ever eats out.

THIS.

...okay, someone wanna back me? Let's open some stuff. :)

Ok. I'm in. But I get a monthly free dinner allowance and NO bathroom vending machines.

... get me a guaranteed 6 figure salary with benefits. I'm yours.

(unless you're serious, in which case... uh... yeah, actually? i might be too)

posted by endcycle on Jan 10, 2014 at 03:44:25 pm     #  

OK--let's start an over/under on how long the West Side Bistro will stay in business. Let's put it at June 1, 2014.

I'm going with the "under," since I had predicted that Grappo's would close in April of 2014 (I was under by 6 months on that one).

I can see Scrambler Marie's, Al Smith's, and Frisch's benefiting from the new Secor motels, but I don't see a restaurant in that location making it. I guess we'll see.

posted by Starr15 on Jan 11, 2014 at 09:25:04 pm     #  

Starr15 posted at 08:25:04 PM on Jan 11, 2014:

OK--let's start an over/under on how long the West Side Bistro will stay in business. Let's put it at June 1, 2014.

I'm going with the "under," since I had predicted that Grappo's would close in April of 2014 (I was under by 6 months on that one).

I can see Scrambler Marie's, Al Smith's, and Frisch's benefiting from the new Secor motels, but I don't see a restaurant in that location making it. I guess we'll see.

Let's put an over/under on how many people think you're an annoying, arrogant twat!

posted by hunkytownsausage on Jan 11, 2014 at 09:48:40 pm     #   7 people liked this

I hear Brian Gump is part of this Bistro

posted by Hoops on Jan 11, 2014 at 09:49:13 pm     #  

hunkytownsausage posted at 08:48:40 PM on Jan 11, 2014:
Starr15 posted at 08:25:04 PM on Jan 11, 2014:

OK--let's start an over/under on how long the West Side Bistro will stay in business. Let's put it at June 1, 2014.

I'm going with the "under," since I had predicted that Grappo's would close in April of 2014 (I was under by 6 months on that one).

I can see Scrambler Marie's, Al Smith's, and Frisch's benefiting from the new Secor motels, but I don't see a restaurant in that location making it. I guess we'll see.

Let's put an over/under on how many people think you're an annoying, arrogant twat!

posted by anonymouscoward on Jan 11, 2014 at 10:40:01 pm     #   4 people liked this

Hoops posted at 08:49:13 PM on Jan 11, 2014:

I hear Brian Gump is part of this Bistro

was he a part of the previous two spots?

posted by upso on Jan 12, 2014 at 12:49:20 am     #  

Wow--it's amazing how mean-spirited some posters get. I'm guessing we should mark Hunkytownsausage down as an "over" since he/she is so upset by my suggestion that the West Side Bistro won't make it past May.

posted by Starr15 on Jan 12, 2014 at 02:07:23 am     #   1 person liked this

Yes, mark me down as over.

As an aside. I like how you act so surprised at someone's reaction to your post that was obviously meant to be inflammatory. You're nothing but a troll at this point.

posted by hunkytownsausage on Jan 12, 2014 at 09:48:01 am     #   6 people liked this

[AC wakes up, opens thread, and reacts:]

TROL LOL LOL, LOL LOL LOL!

Popcorn for breakfast it is!

posted by anonymouscoward on Jan 12, 2014 at 09:57:33 am     #   1 person liked this

Starr15, I'll go with October 2014 and hopefully I'm late by a few months.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jan 12, 2014 at 10:10:18 am     #  

I've been called a "troll"--I'm so crushed. (As an aside, I'll mark Anonymouscoward down as an "over" also.)

posted by Starr15 on Jan 12, 2014 at 11:03:53 am     #  

Starr15 posted at 10:03:53 AM on Jan 12, 2014:

I've been called a "troll"--I'm so crushed. (As an aside, I'll mark Anonymouscoward down as an "over" also.)

I don't have anyone in this race, I'm just here to watch the wrecks happen. Leave me out of it or I'll have to destroy you.

posted by anonymouscoward on Jan 12, 2014 at 11:23:22 am     #