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Toledo Hilton loses "Hilton"

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Nice enough place. What now? Sheraton? Doubletree? Holiday Inn Express?

created by oldhometown on Jan 03, 2013 at 01:58:15 pm     Business     Comments: 26

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That is the hotel formerly known as the Hilton, near the University of Toledo Medical Center, formerly known as The Medical College of Ohio.....whew.

posted by max on Jan 03, 2013 at 03:04:04 pm     #   10 people liked this

Well Played.

posted by stooks on Jan 03, 2013 at 03:26:37 pm     #   1 person liked this

I thought of that too Max when I first read it in the paper this morning.

All joking aside, this is a big blow to the business community in Toledo. When business travelers come to the cities, they look for these type hotels first. It just gives another black eye to the business community of Toledo. We really could use a Hilton and or Hyatt here in town, would give credibility to the business community Toledo really has. I like the HGI out in Levis, but a straight up Hilton is really needed.

posted by avinsurer on Jan 03, 2013 at 03:30:33 pm     #  

I'm not sure I agree that this is a big blow to the business community.

First - the location is miles from any large business area, either downtown or Arrowhead park, with numerous other hotels closer to those areas.

Second - Only major companies with no care for budgets shop for Hilton first, and not some of the other more reasonable, but good-reputation hotels, albeit not the high-end service. Presidents staying there - sure, but your average business person here for a few days? I'm not seeing it. And presidential candidates don't always choose this hotel; haven't they stayed at the one on Secor in past years?

I've often wondered how this hotel stayed in business given its location and assumed its relied on traffic from the hospital. That would make losing the franchise a strategic move to cut costs. Because there is certainly nothing else drawing people to that location, IMO.

posted by MrsArcher on Jan 03, 2013 at 05:03:38 pm     #  

What ever happened with the plan for Marriott to set up shop in half of the floors in the Fiberglas Tower that the Eyde Company was renovating? I haven't heard anything on it since late 2011, when they were saying renovations would be getting started in early '12. Nothing since then. Doesn't mean nothing is happening, but wouldn't it be nice if a news agency checked in on things for updates every once in a while? I mean, it's the 2nd tallest building in Northwest Ohio, you'd think a reporter would want to follow up on it at some point.

posted by Johio83 on Jan 03, 2013 at 05:57:54 pm     #  

I've spoken with the developer on that many times. Still happening... Just waiting on some tax stuff I believe. I think we'll see things happen there this year but font quote me on that! :)

posted by upso on Jan 03, 2013 at 06:00:40 pm     #  

That's good to hear! That could be a great help in offsetting the losses of Crown Plaza and Hilton.

There was that plan back in 2008 for Marriott to build a Courtyard right on the river, in the space that is currently the parking lot behind Fort Industry Square. That would have addressed exactly what MrsArcher is getting at, in terms of a bigger need for a mid-priced hotel than anything high-end in the Toledo market right now.

posted by Johio83 on Jan 03, 2013 at 06:23:13 pm     #  

I wonder how much the height restrictions on buildings has hampered a new hotel from going into Arrowhead. It seems to be a very good place for a Doubletree or Embassy.

posted by JustaSooner on Jan 03, 2013 at 09:54:57 pm     #  

I'm surprised that the Hilton survived as long as it did. It's in an area where crime is increasing (thanks to public housing on and around Airport Highway) and UTMC is a second-rate hospital that doesn't attract a patient-base whose families would stay at a Hilton.

If you had family and friends coming in for a wedding, is there any hotel within the city limits that you would feel comfortable having them stay at?

posted by Elva on Jan 03, 2013 at 10:22:31 pm     #  

I live in Sylvania, so I'd have out of town family come to the Wingate for convenience sake.

I'm not sure I've been in the guest rooms of any hotels in the city limits. Not exactly surprising, since I'm local and don't have a reason to stay in a room. I've only really been to the Toledo hotels for banquets or conferences.

posted by mom2 on Jan 03, 2013 at 11:34:26 pm     #  

There are two or three hotels over on Secor by the expressway that I think would be suitable. My problem with the Wingate is the high price and the mediocre quality.

posted by madjack on Jan 04, 2013 at 12:02:53 am     #  

Guess I can only think of myself.
I have a Y membership at the UT-Health Science Campus branch.
This membership allows me to use the pool at the hotel formerly known as The Hilton.
Hoping the new management works out some kind of deal with the UT-HSC Y...
Otherwise I'm going to have to search again for a pool that does not have reduced hours due to swim meets, classes, etc.....
Well, I'll be asking questions at the Y I guess...

posted by 55pointplace on Jan 04, 2013 at 06:51:49 am     #  

Hilton name or not, it is my preferred hotel for guests. I have stayed there during home remodeling phases, and have spent many evenings in the restaurant. The property is clean and usually quiet. The food at 3100 is consistently among the best in Toledo, thanks to chefs Kabir and Rashid. I often see notable people dining there. I also know that UT and UTMC patients and families use the hotel also, and that they have a special rate for those folks.

I would not refer folks to the hotels on Secor.

There is no question in my mind that UT will continue to have a relationship with this property and continue to have cooperative agreements. I also have no doubt that it will regain the Hilton name. We will continue to see buses full of opposing teams rolling in and out of MUOT Blvd.

posted by justread on Jan 04, 2013 at 07:04:39 am     #  

I agree with justread, 3100 is a fantastic restaurant. Hopefully that doesn't change because of any of this.

posted by Johio83 on Jan 04, 2013 at 09:47:30 am     #  

Obviously a lot of you don't understand business travel. There are a lot of different things that go into it including contracts and brand loyalty. Not having the Hilton brand can definitely harm business in the area. A lot of road warriors have certain preferences and if this brand isn't here, they just simply won't come or will stay elsewhere. Especially international business travelers...no big named hotels, they aren't going to stay in town.

I agree it's not in the best location, but really it's not that far from everything in Toledo. 15 to 20 minutes you're at the door step in almost every business district in the area. Even though it's on the UTMC campus, it doesn't primarily cater to people staying at the hotel because they have loved ones in the hospital. It caters a hell of a lot more to business associated with the hospital and university.

I get the heeby-geebys just driving by them every day to/from work. They cater to low end leisure travelers and not the business travelers.

I bet what really happened is since it's up for sale, the old owners did not want to pay the franchise cost in order to sell it. This way the new owners can go for whatever affiliation they want. I just hate losing the actual Hilton brand here locally. Hopefully there will be an affiliation soon.

posted by avinsurer on Jan 04, 2013 at 10:58:38 am     #  

The current, loyal business travelers, including many HCR Manorcare folks will continue to stay there, and will continue to receive the types of upgrades and perks that these known, regular guests are accustomed to. The temporary suspension of quadruple diamond super special points won't change that. They may choose between this hotel, and another virtually unaffiliated hotel downtown. I have talk to many of these folks.

Politicans will still come because it is a known, vetted quantity with an existing security plan. This vetting happened on site, with the local managers and not with Hilton corporate.

Performers at the Stranahan will continue to stay there because the promoters are well aware of and accustomed to the setup, location and services.

Sports teams coming into town to play UT will still stay there, as the athletic departments are already accustomed to it, it is ON campus, and is easy in and out for buses and teams.

New relationships could be tougher to build.

posted by justread on Jan 04, 2013 at 11:24:44 am     #   2 people liked this

"Politicans will still come because it is a known, vetted quantity with an existing security plan. This vetting happened on site, with the local managers and not with Hilton corporatet."

Politicians have stayed at other hotels in Toledo, not just the Hilton. I'm sure some will continue to stay at the Hilto_, but its not an exclusive gig they have.

"Sports teams coming into town to play UT will still stay there, as the athletic departments are already accustomed to it, it is ON campus, and is easy in and out for buses and teams."

Really? Sports teams stay there instead of at the hotels on Secor just blocks from the main campus? Just surprises me. And while UTMC is 'campus', you can hardly call that 'on' campus for sporting events.

posted by MrsArcher on Jan 04, 2013 at 09:57:35 pm     #  

seems like a lot of sports teams end up staying downtown. i see athletes passing through downtown and grumpy's all the time. i don't think there is ONE place any demographic is staying in toledo.

posted by upso on Jan 04, 2013 at 10:07:52 pm     #  

MrsArcher posted at 08:57:35 PM on Jan 04, 2013:

"Politicans will still come because it is a known, vetted quantity with an existing security plan. This vetting happened on site, with the local managers and not with Hilton corporatet."

Politicians have stayed at other hotels in Toledo, not just the Hilton. I'm sure some will continue to stay at the Hilto_, but its not an exclusive gig they have.

"Sports teams coming into town to play UT will still stay there, as the athletic departments are already accustomed to it, it is ON campus, and is easy in and out for buses and teams."

Really? Sports teams stay there instead of at the hotels on Secor just blocks from the main campus? Just surprises me. And while UTMC is 'campus', you can hardly call that 'on' campus for sporting events.

Few exclusive gigs in the world. Just reporting on what I see.

Yes. Week after week, for years... sports teams. Usually two-three massive buses.

Oh, and golf events too. Like the Farr and the Open. Had a drink with Jamie Farr there and all the loaner cars for the event are always staged there.

Maybe some celebs will go somewhere else if it is a Hilto_. We'll see what happens.

posted by justread on Jan 04, 2013 at 10:35:58 pm     #  

"Really? Sports teams stay there instead of at the hotels on Secor just blocks from the main campus?"

Yes. Well, I know of one incident when that was the case. I visited my brother at that hotel on the night before a game when the football team that he coached for was in town to play UT. I don't remember why the team chose the Hilton.

posted by jr on Jan 04, 2013 at 10:51:37 pm     #  

By the way, after staying at Secor hotels, I have found them filthy, old and gloomy. New hotel on old movie site will be welcome. Levi's commons Hilton much nicer overall albeit in Perrysburg

posted by gunz1 on Jan 05, 2013 at 06:56:14 am     #   1 person liked this

Not sure why the first person account of sports teams staying there regularly would be seen as such an outrageous claim. <Shrug.>

posted by justread on Jan 05, 2013 at 07:27:59 am     #  

justread posted at 06:27:59 AM on Jan 05, 2013:

Not sure why the first person account of sports teams staying there regularly would be seen as such an outrageous claim. <Shrug.>

I did not said it was outrageous or untrue - I simply said I was surprised.

posted by MrsArcher on Jan 05, 2013 at 09:30:37 am     #  

Must have misinterpreted the seemingly astonished "Really?" as its own sentence and two consecutive question marks as disbelief. Clearly I misunderstood what is now obvious to be "I'm surprised." Sorry about that.

posted by justread on Jan 05, 2013 at 10:15:04 am     #  

Word on the street is that a flag will be going up shortly, and that flag will say "Radisson."

posted by justread on Oct 01, 2013 at 09:04:31 pm     #  

Radisson it is.

posted by justread on Dec 31, 2013 at 10:03:09 pm     #