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Walt Churchill's Market: for shame

Congrats to Walt for partnering with Owen-Illinois to create new bottles. Shame for some of his employees not getting raises for several (5+) years -- many of the employees that followed him from Churchill's in perrysburg. Shame for promising to leave the Maumee store to employees then turning around and bringing in Bob Carpenter to take the reigns.

Walt wrote a scathing letter to The Blade after his dad's death and transfer of Churchill's to Farmer Jack. Amazing how close his apple is landing to the tree he despised.

created by JJFad on Feb 02, 2013 at 03:33:53 pm     Business     Comments: 31

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Why would they get raises? Your admonishment mystifies me. We have high unemployment and collapsing housing prices, and grocery stores have tiny profit margins on average.

posted by GuestZero on Feb 02, 2013 at 03:39:37 pm     #  

You assume the store has not increased business.

posted by JJFad on Feb 02, 2013 at 03:41:07 pm     #  

And way to ignore all the rest, but whatever fits your argument best.

posted by JJFad on Feb 02, 2013 at 03:43:14 pm     #   5 people liked this

I thought Scott ran Maumee?

posted by Molsonator on Feb 02, 2013 at 04:27:51 pm     #  

Walt Churchill. Terrible American.

LOL.

posted by justread on Feb 02, 2013 at 04:35:47 pm     #  

what can one expect as far as pay-scale goes for working at a grocery store? 5 years seems to be a long time without a raise, but we're living in lean years and the grocery store biz is VERY competitive.

posted by upso on Feb 02, 2013 at 04:44:46 pm     #   1 person liked this

Congrats to Walt for keeping open while others are closing up.

posted by Molsonator on Feb 02, 2013 at 04:50:10 pm     #   3 people liked this

JJfad-could you articulate your accusations? I'm a little confused. While trying to figure out what you were referring to, I googled the Carpenter/ Churchill connection. I guess you mean the whole Bassett's thing. My understanding is Bassett's doesn't own any part anymore and is continuing to work with some sort of management agreement for the Perrysburg location only. My take on this is they did this to transition quickly once Walt took it back. This should have nothing to do with the Maumee store (yes, Scott is in charge there Molsonator). I shop there daily (in fact, I'm heading there right now) and know several employees. The entire team at Churchill's Monclova has been there for years. When they closed the Central store (which wasn't Walt's, but the Churchill's Trust) he offered to bring on most of the full time employees if they needed jobs. As far as I'm concerned, that is the best market in town, and the people that work there are some of the best. I also see Walt in the store regularly, and I get the sense the employees enjoy seeing him. It's a very happy place.

Big name, easy target, but very good citizen and one of the best cheerleaders for the area.

posted by ahmahler on Feb 02, 2013 at 04:55:22 pm     #   3 people liked this

ahmahler - don't forget he took the manager of the Kazmeier's that closed and gave him a job at Maumee too.

posted by Molsonator on Feb 02, 2013 at 04:58:20 pm     #   2 people liked this

My first "real job" was at Churchill's in Sylvania when I was 16. Started at $5 an hour (minimum wage was $4.25) Then if I remember correctly, got 15 cent raise at 6 months then 25 cents at a year and maybe another 25 cents at two years. Groceries are a tough business to be in. Bob Carpenter was the GM back then too and he was a good manager.

posted by TrilbyGuy on Feb 02, 2013 at 05:09:40 pm     #  

Yeah molsonator, good point, and now that you mention it- I think he extended offers to all full time kazmaeirs employees too. I'm fairly certain they added at least 1 cashier from that offer. I actually just saw Walt and was so tempted to let him know about this thread, but he was in too good of a mood.

posted by ahmahler on Feb 02, 2013 at 06:39:09 pm     #  

Oh give the guy a break. Staying open during the recession as a speciality market and that horrid construction over there is hard enough to do. People like you make me sick. If your looking to grow in the grocery industry as an employee go work for a chain. Maybe you should open any retail establishment these days and see how hard it is to keep doors open with rising taxes, minimum wages, credit card processing fees and 90 other things I couls mention that weren't a problem 50 years ago. Shame on you to call him out on a site like this for something so dumb.

posted by mk123 on Feb 02, 2013 at 11:02:20 pm     #   5 people liked this

Wouldn't they have gotten a raise when the minimum wage increased?

posted by OnePlainPerson on Feb 03, 2013 at 10:27:08 am     #  

only if they were making minimum wage

posted by upso on Feb 03, 2013 at 01:30:10 pm     #  

Shame for some of his employees not getting raises for several (5+) years

^

Thanks for the information. I'll be going there during my next grocery store visit.

posted by 6th_Floor on Feb 03, 2013 at 02:05:40 pm     #  

"You assume the store has not increased business."

So that automatically assumes increased profits???

I work in an industry that has a much better profit margin than grocery stores. Not only have we not had salary increases since 2007, most of us have had to accept salary reductions. We've also had to ante up more out of pocket for our health insurance and had other benefits reduced/eliminated. But I'm still thankful to be employed and hope that someday things will turn around and we may regain some of those losses.

This is real life in the private sector in a stagnant/declining economy.

posted by Foodie on Feb 04, 2013 at 10:15:06 am     #   1 person liked this

6th_Floor posted at 01:05:40 PM on Feb 03, 2013:

Shame for some of his employees not getting raises for several (5+) years

^

Thanks for the information. I'll be going there during my next grocery store visit.

May I recommend Walmart, as well?

posted by researcher on Feb 04, 2013 at 11:18:43 am     #  

Foodie posted at 09:15:06 AM on Feb 04, 2013:

"You assume the store has not increased business."

So that automatically assumes increased profits???

I work in an industry that has a much better profit margin than grocery stores. Not only have we not had salary increases since 2007, most of us have had to accept salary reductions. We've also had to ante up more out of pocket for our health insurance and had other benefits reduced/eliminated. But I'm still thankful to be employed and hope that someday things will turn around and we may regain some of those losses.

This is real life in the private sector in a stagnant/declining economy.

I dunno where you get this idea that the economy is stagnant/declining, because the DJIA went over 14k for the first time since 2007. Perhaps you need to shut off the AM radio and/or change the cable "news" channel you watch.

How much does your senior/executive management make? Did they take any cuts or not get any bonuses? Does your employer have publicly traded stock and did they make sure the shareholders all got a nice fat dividend?

posted by anonymouscoward on Feb 04, 2013 at 02:14:21 pm     #  

The stock market and the main street economy is disconnected and has been for a while.

posted by Linecrosser on Feb 04, 2013 at 02:21:37 pm     #  

"I dunno where you get this idea that the economy is stagnant/declining"

Really? 8.5 million people have dropped out of the workforce in the last 4 years. The U-6 # is close to 15%. Talk to anyone looking for work lately?

With $85 billion/month of funny money being pumped into the mortgage industry alone - no wonder the stock market went up Friday (BTW, it's currently down 124 points). Wall street is awash with cash (the aforementioned funny money) and fools. And we what happens to a fool and his $$.

Lastly, unless you have first hand knowledge of my TV and radio habits, pehaps you should MYOFB.

posted by Foodie on Feb 04, 2013 at 02:52:13 pm     #   1 person liked this

Foodie posted at 01:52:13 PM on Feb 04, 2013:

"I dunno where you get this idea that the economy is stagnant/declining"

Really? 8.5 million people have dropped out of the workforce in the last 4 years. The U-6 # is close to 15%. Talk to anyone looking for work lately?

With $85 billion/month of funny money being pumped into the mortgage industry alone - no wonder the stock market went up Friday (BTW, it's currently down 124 points). Wall street is awash with cash (the aforementioned funny money) and fools. And we what happens to a fool and his $$.

Lastly, unless you have first hand knowledge of my TV and radio habits, pehaps you should MYOFB.

Why the hell do you feel the need to whine about your employment here, if not to make it everyone else's business?

posted by anonymouscoward on Feb 04, 2013 at 03:00:50 pm     #  

No whining involved. Merely pointing out the reality of much of the private sector in today's economy. As I stated, I'm very grateful to still be employed.

The MYOFB comment clearly pertains to you assuming that anyone who listens to AM radio or watches certain cable news channels has a distorted view of reality.

If we all got our news exclusively from the same source(s) as you, then we'd also all be as ignorant as you regarding the current state of our economy.

posted by Foodie on Feb 04, 2013 at 04:07:16 pm     #  

While we're on the subject of Walt Churchill's market, I tried that new wide mouth jar, being trial introduced in this market, that you can tip on an angle to get at the dip contents more easily. Its called the VersaFlip Tip and Dip. I'd rate the jar as a 10. The salsa that came in it a 2. Blech!

posted by holland on Feb 04, 2013 at 04:53:30 pm     #  

JJFad how long did you and or your family members work at Churchills?

posted by tgarvin on Feb 04, 2013 at 05:05:03 pm     #   1 person liked this

Foodie posted at 03:07:16 PM on Feb 04, 2013:

No whining involved. Merely pointing out the reality of much of the private sector in today's economy. As I stated, I'm very grateful to still be employed.

The MYOFB comment clearly pertains to you assuming that anyone who listens to AM radio or watches certain cable news channels has a distorted view of reality.

If we all got our news exclusively from the same source(s) as you, then we'd also all be as ignorant as you regarding the current state of our economy.

And he fails to say how his media that he watches doesn't skew any facts or give him, his talking points.

posted by Linecrosser on Feb 04, 2013 at 05:34:15 pm     #  

If economic indicators are improving, everything else is anecdotal.

posted by researcher on Feb 04, 2013 at 05:41:46 pm     #  

Hmmmmmm........4th 1/4 2012 - CONTRACTION of 0.1%. Not exactly going in the right direction.....

posted by Foodie on Feb 05, 2013 at 01:12:41 pm     #  

Didn't see that on the big 3 networks, they were busy reporting the Stock market hitting over over 1400 for the first time since 2007.

posted by Linecrosser on Feb 05, 2013 at 01:40:42 pm     #  

Foodie posted at 12:12:41 PM on Feb 05, 2013:

Hmmmmmm........4th 1/4 2012 - CONTRACTION of 0.1%. Not exactly going in the right direction.....

Not only that but they were expecting 2.5% +/-, so they were OFF 2.5%. That's a big deal.

posted by MrsArcher on Feb 05, 2013 at 02:24:09 pm     #  

Now had i heard about last weeks burbon tasting at burger bar before it sold out i would have been in

posted by In_vin_veritas on Feb 05, 2013 at 10:44:44 pm     #  

Whoops Multi tasking error please ignore last comment.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Feb 05, 2013 at 10:49:58 pm     #