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Hotel recommendation

I'm looking for recommendations on hotel accomodations in the Franklin Park area. I have a small group coming in for an evening event near the mall during the first week of March, and some have inquired as to a nearby hotel. The closer to the mall the better, as some of these guys may be drinking a bit during the evening. Thanks!

created by apophistoledo on Feb 07, 2013 at 03:56:24 pm     Business     Comments: 27

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Aside from the dumps over on Secor, I believe the nearest hotel is the Wingate in Sylvania.

posted by Foodie on Feb 07, 2013 at 04:20:35 pm     #  

I would recommend the Wingate in Downtown Sylvania.

The closest ones are not worth it... Get a cab and stay in a better hotel.

About this time last year we had 2 nights booked at one on Secor. Because of obligations we had to stay the first night, but opted not to stay there the second night, and went home.

New hotels are supposed to be built soon... the area needs it. If that happens, they can bulldoze the existing ones IMHO.

posted by SJD on Feb 07, 2013 at 04:24:42 pm     #   1 person liked this

Third vote for Wingate. I have not personally stayed there, but we had some guests in from out of town who said it was very good.

posted by historymike on Feb 07, 2013 at 07:22:39 pm     #  

I had forgotten about the Wingate. The ones on Secor leave a lot to be desired for the area from what I had heard, hence asking this fine group what they thought.

posted by apophistoledo on Feb 07, 2013 at 07:41:31 pm     #  

Wingate's expensive and for my money, overpriced. Plus the Sylvania City cops are absolute pricks about drunk driving.

posted by madjack on Feb 07, 2013 at 09:10:51 pm     #  

It's not that far to Dussel Drive. I've had family stay at the Homewood Suites on Dussel and the Hampton Inn at Reynolds & Holland with positive feedback. I wouldn't recommend the Ramada on Secor. I've done meetings there and have not been impressed at all.

posted by WordsRUs on Feb 07, 2013 at 09:55:08 pm     #  

Tripadvisor.com

posted by OhioKimono on Feb 07, 2013 at 10:14:19 pm     #  

The Wingate would be better than any hotel within the Toledo city limits.

I personally only stay at Marriotts. There is a Marriott Courtyard and Fairfield Inn on Dussel. Either of those would be best.

posted by Elva on Feb 08, 2013 at 01:51:20 am     #  

madjack posted at 08:10:51 PM on Feb 07, 2013:

Wingate's expensive and for my money, overpriced. Plus the Sylvania City cops are absolute pricks about drunk driving.

Wow.

posted by researcher on Feb 08, 2013 at 02:07:49 am     #  

Toledo is not that big. No matter where they might stay, it's a 20 minute ride to your event.

posted by Hoops on Feb 08, 2013 at 08:39:23 am     #  

Hoops is right. There are also a lot of nice hotels in Perrysburg. Wife and I stayed at the Hilton Garden in Levis commons for a couple days for our anniversary and it was nice.

posted by lfrost2125 on Feb 08, 2013 at 09:02:33 am     #  

I certainly do hope that the cops in Sylvania are "pricks" about drunk driving. Drunk driving is deadly, as that poor young man in Ottawa Hills would surely attest to if drunk driving hadn't just taken his life. That what we in Sylvania pay our police force to do, enforce the law.

As to the Wingate, good choice and much closer to Franklin Park
than any of the hotels farther south on I-475. Also, good advice, take a cab if needed.

posted by CatLady on Feb 08, 2013 at 11:09:47 am     #   7 people liked this

Speeding can be deadly too. I'd think a cop was being a prick if I was barely over the speed limit and I got a ticket.

The law is the law, but we all know, that not everyone that is over the legal limit is an implicit danger to the roadways.

So no, I hope that cops arent pricks. I hear ya, Madjack.

posted by BulldogBuckeye on Feb 08, 2013 at 02:10:54 pm     #   2 people liked this

Maumee cops being pricks too:

Toledo Blade: St. John's Jesuit coach Appears In Court on Charges of Operating While Intoxicated

Venerable St. John's Jesuit basketball coach Ed Heintschel is scheduled to appear in a Maumee courtroom Tuesday on charges from November that he operated a vehicle while intoxicated.

Heintschel, who notched his 600th career win last month, was pulled over on Nov. 26 for not using his turn signal and almost hitting another vehicle, according to the arrest report. Heintschel, 62, later registered a .140 blood alcohol content, nearly twice the legal limit in Ohio.

Heintschel admitted to the arresting officer he had consumed two Manhattan drinks.

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Side note: I feel bad for Mr. Heintschel, who I greatly respected at St. John's, but....

If only two Manhattans caused a .14, they must have been made with pure moonshine and consumed in 30 seconds. Either someone is not accurate in his drink count or the BAC machine is inaccurate...or maybe his liver can't process alcohol anymore. Who knows?

posted by oldhometown on Feb 08, 2013 at 03:14:12 pm     #   1 person liked this

oldhometown posted at 02:14:12 PM on Feb 08, 2013:

Maumee cops being pricks too:

Toledo Blade: St. John's Jesuit coach Appears In Court on Charges of Operating While Intoxicated

Venerable St. John's Jesuit basketball coach Ed Heintschel is scheduled to appear in a Maumee courtroom Tuesday on charges from November that he operated a vehicle while intoxicated.

Heintschel, who notched his 600th career win last month, was pulled over on Nov. 26 for not using his turn signal and almost hitting another vehicle, according to the arrest report. Heintschel, 62, later registered a .140 blood alcohol content, nearly twice the legal limit in Ohio.

Heintschel admitted to the arresting officer he had consumed two Manhattan drinks.

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Side note: I feel bad for Mr. Heintschel, who I greatly respected at St. John's, but....

If only two Manhattans caused a .14, they must have been made with pure moonshine and consumed in 30 seconds. Either someone is not accurate in his drink count or the BAC machine is inaccurate...or maybe his liver can't process alcohol anymore. Who knows?

I would say the majority of people who get pulled over ALWAYS say they only had 2 of whatever they were drinking. Problem is since they lowered the limit a few years back more than 1 will put you over. I think its just the fact they drink more than they will admit to.

posted by Linecrosser on Feb 08, 2013 at 03:45:14 pm     #  

Linecrosser is correct when he stated that most drunk drivers will admit to only having two - be it beers, manhattans or glasses of wine. If the police were using a breathalyzer, Heintschel should have demanded a blood test (assuming he failed the breathalyzer test).

All that aside, how well does the man drive when he's sober? Virtually all the drunks that get busted for DUI are dangerous drivers when they're stone cold sober. Load 'em up on hundred proof and they're hell on wheels until they either get home, get busted or get in a wreck.

posted by madjack on Feb 08, 2013 at 04:14:10 pm     #  

This country's DUI laws need an overhaul, and not in a more restrictive fashion. There are too many factors at play to say that a single measurement, a .08 blood acohol level, should be the sole determiner for whether a person is safe to drive, and whether or not they find themselves in a heap of legal trouble. What about a regular drinker with a high tolerance who is a very safe, even defensive driver and who is not at all fatigued? It takes a lot more than .08 worth of alcohol for this person to be impaired. I don't understand how the experts arrived at this 'alcohol affects everyone equally', one-size-fits-all policy.

Local suburban law enforcement have much stricter, sometimes borderline oppressive drunk driving policies because there is less real crime happening there.

If the event is by the mall, and some people will be drinking, I would recommend getting a hotel as close as possible - regardless of the quality.

posted by mixman on Feb 08, 2013 at 04:26:36 pm     #  

From MixMan: I don't understand how the experts arrived at this 'alcohol affects everyone equally', one-size-fits-all policy.

Who says experts crafted this law? The current law, such as it is, was written by our elected officials in Columbus, who were pressured by MADD, SADD, GLADD, DADD and FADD to lower the BAC rating or face opposition in the next election. Even more pressure was exerted from the elected officials in DC, who were able to dangle the highway funding carrot in front of State government.

Expertise has nothing to do with it, and hasn't for years.

posted by madjack on Feb 08, 2013 at 04:35:15 pm     #  

Haha, yeah I use the term experts loosely. Very loosely.

From Wikipedia:

"Blood alcohol tests assume the individual being tested is average in various ways. For example, on average the ratio of blood alcohol content to breath alcohol content (the partition ratio) is 2100 to 1. In other words, there are 2100 parts of alcohol in the blood for every part in the breath. However, the actual ratio in any given individual can vary from 1300:1 to 3100:1, or even more widely. This ratio varies not only from person to person, but within one person from moment to moment. Thus a person with a true blood alcohol level of .08% but a partition ratio of 1700:1 at the time of testing would have a .10 reading on a Breathalyzer calibrated for the average 2100:1 ratio.

Breath alcohol testing further assumes that the test is post-absorptive—that is, that the absorption of alcohol in the subject's body is complete. If the subject is still actively absorbing alcohol, their body has not reached a state of equilibrium where the concentration of alcohol is uniform throughout the body. Most forensic alcohol experts reject test results during this period as the amounts of alcohol in the breath will not accurately reflect a true concentration in the blood."

posted by mixman on Feb 08, 2013 at 05:00:30 pm     #  

What was it before they changed it like 10 years back, and I thought that it was even lower than .08 now.

posted by Linecrosser on Feb 08, 2013 at 05:14:27 pm     #  

So this thread went from asking for a hotel recommendation to cops being pricks then to the traits of drunk drivers and DUI laws. Need an ADHD feature for message boards.

Since it must be tough to start a new thread so that the off-topic discussion becomes the main topic, how about I add a "branch" or "fork" feature where a reply to a comment can be the post that starts a new thread, but the two threads are automatically linked together for people to follow? Instead of a lengthy off-topic, threaded discussion within the main thread, the off-topic or new discussion becomes it's own thread.

posted by jr on Feb 08, 2013 at 05:18:29 pm     #  

^how about I add a "branch" or "fork" feature ...no way, this is more challenging than the golf tee triangle game at crack-barrel

posted by justareviewer on Feb 08, 2013 at 05:29:19 pm     #   1 person liked this

I think that's a great idea jr.

posted by Foodie on Feb 08, 2013 at 05:35:01 pm     #  

great idea

posted by upso on Feb 08, 2013 at 05:39:52 pm     #  

The original poster was talking about hotels and drinking, and the hotel part was talked out. Natural course of converstaion to me.

posted by mixman on Feb 08, 2013 at 05:48:58 pm     #  

*conversation

posted by mixman on Feb 08, 2013 at 05:49:55 pm     #  

Sorry for my part hijacking the thread...

posted by oldhometown on Feb 09, 2013 at 01:14:50 am     #