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Toledo Wi-Fi Debate

Discussing the pros and cons of Toledo's wireless Internet project.

Jun 29, 2007 Toledo Blade story Mayor to retool Toledo Wi-Fi plan, eliminate taxpayer funding - "There was some homework that didn't get done that needs to get done, and I take full responsibility for that. It may take a bit longer than was originally thought, which was the end of the year." - Mayor Finkbeiner

FOR IT edit >> Template:For Toledo Wi-Fi

  • Provides free or discounted service to low income families.
  • Free service to city agencies, such as police and fire departments.
    • Could improve public safety by reducing response times.
    • Receiving instructions in the field will lead to fuel savings.
    • "In Corpus Christi, emergency rooms doctors can see what paramedics see at the scene of an emergency."
  • Free wireless access in certain public buildings and outdoor areas.
  • Subscriptions for other users, which will be about $20 to $25 per month.
  • Installation will not cost the taxpayers a penny.
  • The wireless Internet cloud will cover all 88 square miles of Toledo.
  • Will appeal to visitors.
  • Will appeal to the younger, plugged-in generation.
    • Could help slow Toledo's "brain drain" of young professionals.
    • Could attract young professionals to Toledo.
  • May help jump-start small businesses.

External sources

  • Jan 18, 2007 Toledo Blade story
  • Feb 2, 2007 Toledo Blade op-ed
  • Jun 13, 2007 Toledo City Paper Why Wi-Fi?
  • Jun 15, 2007 Letter to Blade by Toledo's IT director
AGAINST IT edit >> Template:Against Toledo Wi-Fi

  • Toledo govt didn't seek enough input from local businesses and universities.1
    • Since the Jan 2007 announcement, City may be rushing the project.
  • Taxpayers could pay over $2 million for the project.2
  • MetroFi's business model of offering free service does not make economic sense.3
    • MetroFi's main income source is two venture capital firms.
    • Advertising alone is not expected to generate enough money to cover installation and maintenance costs.
  • Toledo already has dozens of wireless "hot spots" around the city.4
    • 2005 study ranked Toledo fifth on the most unwired list.
  • Toledo only received two proposals.5
  • Access is not available inside homes and apartments.6
    • Residents will need to purchase additional hardware to get service.
  • Unstable project leadership7
    • Director of Toledo’s Department of Information Services quits or was fired Jun 21, 2007.
  • Lack of funding support by City Council.8
  • Next-gen wireless technology is "right around the corner," which could make WiFi irrelevant.9

References

1 Feb 18, 2007 Toledo Blade story

2 May 31, 2007 Toledo Blade story

3 Mar 13, 2007 Toledo Blade story

4 Jun 7, 2005 Toledo Talk thread Toledo unwired

5 Feb 21, 2007 Toledo Blade story

6 May 31, 2007 story Cities Struggle With Wireless Internet

7 Jun 22, 2007 Toledo Blade story Toledo Wi-Fi chief quits, then is fired in dispute with mayor

8 Jun 26, 2007 Toledo Blade story Toledo council withholds OK for $2.16M Wi-Fi plan; answers sought to financial, legal concerns

9 Jul 3, 2007 Toronto Star story WiFi revolution hits a snag

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Aug 4, 2007 story titled Public Wi-Fi: Past its Prime?

"There is still a lot to be done in WiMAX," he said. "One of the reasons that-Wi-Fi mesh and Wi-Fi hotspots make sense is that there are literally hundreds of millions of devices today that are imbedded with this technology."

David Robinson, vice-president of business implementations for Rogers Communications, counters that over the long haul, WiMAX is simply the better technology for outdoor use, so there is little point in municipalities pursuing Wi-Fi.

"Wi-Fi was built to be an indoor LAN extension for a few hundred feet. There are a limited number of non-overlapping channels. This is not a flaw that has to be fixed-- this is a design feature."

Maybe so, but the fact is that present WiMAX offerings require either a portable modem dependent on its own power source (as in Sympatico Unplugged and Rogers Portable Internet) or, in the case of Bell WiMAX in Home, a fixed modem.

"You can't use those services in a park. You need to walk around with a modem looking for a place to plug in," says Dave Dobbin, president of Toronto Hydro Telecom.

Toronto Hydro Telecom's Dobbin feels there is room for both technologies. "There are places where WiMAX makes more sense than Wi-Fi," he says, "specifically low-density metropolitan areas. This is not a technology argument, this is an adoption argument," says Dobbin. "We deployed the first large scale Wi-Fi metropolitan network in North America, and most devices are now pre-packed with Wi-Fi."

Robinson, who agrees that this is not necessarily an either-or discussion, nonetheless stresses that at the end of the day it's the long-term appropriateness of a given technology that has to be assessed. "Infrastructure investments are capital-intensive," he says. "Wi-Fi is ideal for what it was designed for: indoor WLAN extensions. Providing a carrier-grade network is a different proposition. We can't charge people for a service that degrades in the middle of a building."


Aug 4, 2007 story titled Toronto Hydro Says Wi-Fi Works Great. What about Subscribers?

Mobile WiMax isn’t yet mobile; Wi-Fi is. WiMax in Canada is enormously more expensive in this pre-standard version: C$45 to C$65 per month; Toronto’s Wi-Fi, C$29. Only problem? Toronto’s Wi-Fi network hasn’t increased in area for some time, and the head of the company, quoted in this article extolling Wi-Fi, fails to mention its tiny size.

posted by jr on Aug 04, 2007 at 09:24:43 pm     #  

Sep 25, 2007 : Sprint, Motorola show off WiMAX on the Chicago River

posted by jr on Sep 26, 2007 at 09:22:52 pm     #  

Mar 18, 2008 - Technology Review : Long-Distance Wi-Fi - Intel has found a way to stretch a Wi-Fi signal from one antenna to another located more than 60 miles away.

Mar 17, 2008 - c|net : New business models for citywide Wi-Fi - In this model, the city government and public-safety agencies act as anchor tenants guaranteeing the service provider a contract. The more money a city [taxpayer money] spends with the network operator, the fewer residential customers it needs to make a profit.

posted by jr on Mar 18, 2008 at 10:23:39 am     #  

Mar 22, 2008 NY Times : Hopes for Wireless Cities Fade as Internet Providers Pull Out

posted by jr on Mar 22, 2008 at 08:19:49 am     #  

May 15, 2008 - Wi-Fi Networking News : MetroFi Plans Market Exit: Sale or Shutter :

Haas noted via email that MetroFi has been working towards anchor commitments by cities for nearly two years, but the inertia of those early networks led municipalities to reject those options. In Toledo, where MetroFi had negotiated an anchor commitment, a change in administration led a new mayor to retreat from the plan.

MetroFi will sell its networks, but plans to shutter if there are no buyers. MetroFi was one of the three most prominent pure play metro-scale Wi-Fi firms.

MetroFi’s chief Chuck Haas [said] his firm has decided that they will sell their networks in nine cities, including their first cities in the Bay Area (Cupertino, Santa Clara, and Sunnyvale), and their largest muni deployment in Portland, Ore. If no buyers emerge—including the cities in question—Haas said that MetroFi would have a shutdown plan for gradually unlighting the networks.

MetroFi was the only major firm to back ad-supported no-fee access, coupled with paid, no-ads service, and higher tiered commercial offerings. They built mostly smaller cities, with Portland being their only real big city win. The firm began with the notion of building Wi-Fi out gradually as a way to provide broadband in communities that lacked service, with no municipal involvement. That plan required sparser networks and typically a home signal booster designed by SkyPilot.

Is there a future for metro-scale Wi-Fi? Yes. With thoughtfully constructed, outdoor-focused deployments centered on municipal purposes, with public access a secondary issue, it seems like these networks could still provide an inexpensive way for relatively high bandwidth compared to the alternative of cell data networks.

However, that advantage is likely short lived in larger markets. The near-future certainty now that there will be multiple provides offering wired broadband speed service starting later this year with Sprint/Clearwire’s WiMax, and continuing through into 2012 with significant network buildout by Verizon and AT&T in several bands (including their new 700 MHz holdings).

It’s possible that in the long term, looking five years out, that Wi-Fi on a metro-scale will only be needed in small towns, odd markets, and for highly particular purposes.

posted by jr on May 16, 2008 at 05:14:13 pm     #  

July 8, 2008 - Into thin air - Why Silicon Valley Wi-Fi fizzled :

It seemed like such a good idea - Internet for everyone, everywhere. So much so that cities across the United States announced plans for citywide Wi-Fi networks in an excited chorus starting in the early 2000s. But in the last few years, most cities' plans to provide Internet access through a wireless network have fallen flat, deflated by shortcomings in technology and financial woes. This spring, Silicon Valley became the latest casualty of the Wi-Fi flop.

Citywide Wi-Fi access seemed brimming with potential a few years ago. Proponents said a free service, or at least one that offered both free and premium options, could help poorer communities reap Web-based benefits. It would democratize the Internet, they said. Others dreamt of improved business or city services, or just offering residents another Internet provider. And simply put, the idea was downright nifty. While privacy concerns or doubts about practical implementation surfaced, many embraced the idea of ubiquitous Internet. In the evolution of the wired world, it seemed like the next step.

Yet citywide Wi-Fi ultimately fell prey to both technological and fiscal maladies, just like the adage that there's no such thing as a free lunch.

posted by jr on Jul 09, 2008 at 07:47:34 pm     #  

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