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Sep 2013 Primary

Tuesday, September 10, 2013

Mayoral Race

Vote for 1. Top 2 make it to the November election.

"Unofficial Final Results" - BOE

(I) Michael P. Bell634027%
(I) D. Michael Collins580624%
(D) Anita Lopez544323%
(D) Joe McNamara532822%
(I) Alan Cox3781%
(L) Michael R. Konwinski2831%
(R) Opal Covey1421%
Write-in281%

City Council At-large

Vote for 6. Top 12 make it to the November election.

"Unofficial Final Results" - BOE

(R) R. Ludeman (*) 13,193 14%
(D) J. Ford 11,557 12%
(I) S. Spang 9,852 10%
(D) L. Sykes 8,337 8%
(D) S. Steel (*) 8,333 8%
(I) T. Gabriel 8,241 8%
(D) A. Martinez (*) 7,055 7%
(D) S. Enright (*) 6,330 6%
(I) B. Delaney 4,869 5%
(R) J. Nowak 4,607 5%
(R) J. Celusta 3,830 4%
(G) S. Nestor 3,126 3%
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(R) E. McCarthy2,435 2%
(R) J. Martin 2,356 2%
(R) A. Narvaez 2,108 2%
(R) R. Johns 1,933 2%
(D) J. Fowler 1,505 2%

(*) Incumbent

Sep Turnout

Maumee held a primary for their city council. The only elections held in Lucas County on Sep 10, 2013 were in Toledo and Maumee.

These voter numbers from the Lucas County BOE include the Toledo and Maumee elections:

  • Registered Voters: 164,645
  • Votes Cast: 24,877
  • Voter Turnout: 15.11%

Past years

September 2005

Carty Finkbeiner1528336.74%
Jack Ford1091026.23%

Voter turnout: 22 percent.
Total votes cast for mayor: 41,594.


September 2009

Keith Wilkowski1121430.89%
Mike Bell1054329.04%

Voter turnout: under 20 percent.
Total votes cast for mayor: 36,307

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updated by jr on Sep 12, 2013 at 09:27:02 am
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Lucas County BOE Results as of 9:32 p.m.
Number of Precincts 226
Precincts Reporting 37 16.4 %
Total Votes 6879

D. Michael Collins188627.42%
Michael P. Bell165724.09%
Anita Lopez164623.93%
Joe McNamara143120.80%
Michael R. Konwinski791.15%
Alan Cox1382.01%
Opal Covey360.52%
Write-in Votes60.09%

posted by jr on Sep 10, 2013 at 10:19:19 pm     #  

Election Results as of 10:24 p.m.
Precincts Reporting 29%

D. Michael Collins244326%
Michael P. Bell243426%
Anita Lopez211522%
Joe McNamara208822%

posted by jr on Sep 10, 2013 at 10:35:12 pm     #  

Election Results as of 10:33 p.m.
Precincts Reporting 39%

Michael P. Bell324726%
D. Michael Collins313825%
Anita Lopez283023%
Joe McNamara268522%

posted by jr on Sep 10, 2013 at 10:38:55 pm     #  

Election Results as of 11:09 p.m.
Precincts Reporting 55%

Michael P. Bell383127%
D. Michael Collins352424%
Anita Lopez329523%
Joe McNamara324222%

posted by jr on Sep 10, 2013 at 11:13:03 pm     #  

Election Results as of 11:19 p.m.
Precincts Reporting 97%

Michael P. Bell625227%
D. Michael Collins563024%
Anita Lopez535723%
Joe McNamara521522%

posted by jr on Sep 10, 2013 at 11:23:30 pm     #  

Precincts Reporting 100%

Michael P. Bell634027%
D. Michael Collins580624%
Anita Lopez544323%
Joe McNamara532822%
Alan Cox3781%
Michael R. Konwinski2831%
Opal Covey1421%
Write-in281%

posted by jr on Sep 11, 2013 at 12:09:36 am     #  

Voter stats (pdf file) for the Sep 10, 2013 Lucas County primaries:

  • Registered Voters: 164,645
  • Votes Cast: 24,877
  • Voter Turnout: 15.11%

The above info includes Toledo and Maumee primaries. I think. Toledo plus Maumee only equals 164,645 registered voters??

Back in September 2005, the only Lucas County primary occurred in Toledo. Sep 2005 Toledo mayoral and city council at-large results (pdf file)

  • Registered Voters: 189,454
  • Votes Cast: 42,132
  • Voter Turnout: 22.24%

In eight years, the number of registered voters in Toledo has declined by at least 25,000.


A bit more about the 2013 mayoral primary.

Sep 10, 2013 Blade story

The candidates for mayor filed campaign finance reports for the first six months.
  • Lopez raised $103,393
  • Bell raised $91,010
  • McNamara raised $90,296
  • Collins raised only $10,267 but he finished second.

The top four mayoral candidates raised almost $300,000, and only 23,748 votes were cast for the Toledo mayoral part of the primary.

From the Blade story:

Lopez raised the most during the six-month period, $103,393, and ended the period with $23,906.

Lopez received 5,443 votes.

Mr. Bell, a political independent, raised $91,010, and ended the period with $106,438 in his campaign warchest.

Mr. McNamara raised $90,296, and ended the six-month period with $56,301.

Mr. Collins operated with the least cash among the four main candidates. He reported contributions of $10,267 and cash on hand of $6,475.

Obviously, Collins did well with relatively little money.

Top 2 candidates for the November general:

  • (I) Bell - $106,438 cash on hand
  • (I) Collins - $6,475 cash on hand

So how did Collins finish second in the primary?

Mayor Bell said he expected a general election face off with Mr. Collins. "I told these guys it would be Collins," the mayor said pointing at his reelection team. "The two [Democratic] candidates were shooting at each other, which they did..."

Dan Wagner, president of Toledo Policer Patrolman's Association rank and file union, said Collins' support surged after the most recent televised debate.

posted by jr on Sep 11, 2013 at 01:20:51 am     #  

Well the people spoke. The triple dipper will probably get re-elected. Maybe in his next term he can take some vacations, err I mean business trips to Africa and Australia too. I'm sure there are lots of companies in those continents that would love to build factories in Toledo. No wonder this town is a dump. Ignorant voters.

posted by Ethel on Sep 11, 2013 at 05:52:14 am     #  

Ethel posted at 05:52:14 AM on Sep 11, 2013:

Well the people spoke. The triple dipper will probably get re-elected. Maybe in his next term he can take some vacations, err I mean business trips to Africa and Australia too. I'm sure there are lots of companies in those continents that would love to build factories in Toledo. No wonder this town is a dump. Ignorant voters.

Yes, and many are ignorant regarding what economic development is, and how it is done.

posted by justread on Sep 11, 2013 at 06:20:59 am     #   5 people liked this

jr thks for crunching the #'s. Really impressive. Especially liked the historic references as comparison.

posted by Mariner on Sep 11, 2013 at 07:01:02 am     #  

Is Anita Lopez calling in sick today ?? Another Blade endorsed candidate (JMAC) crashes and burns.

posted by Hoops on Sep 11, 2013 at 08:30:21 am     #  

The Toledo City Council At-large Primary.
Showing the top 12 who made it to the November election.

(R) R. Ludeman (*) 13,193 14%
(D) J. Ford 11,557 12%
(I) S. Spang 9,852 10%
(D) L. Sykes 8,337 8%
(D) S. Steel (*) 8,333 8%
(I) T. Gabriel 8,241 8%
(D) A. Martinez (*) 7,055 7%
(D) S. Enright (*) 6,330 6%
(I) B. Delaney 4,869 5%
(R) J. Nowak 4,607 5%
(R) J. Celusta 3,830 4%
(G) S. Nestor 3,126 3%

(*) Incumbent

posted by jr on Sep 11, 2013 at 08:44:43 am     #  

Ethel posted at 05:52:14 AM on Sep 11, 2013:

Well the people spoke. The triple dipper will probably get re-elected. Maybe in his next term he can take some vacations, err I mean business trips to Africa and Australia too. I'm sure there are lots of companies in those continents that would love to build factories in Toledo. No wonder this town is a dump. Ignorant voters.

How true Ethel !: (D) J. Ford 11,557 12%

He did such a stellar job as mayor that he should now serve on council??

posted by Foodie on Sep 11, 2013 at 09:07:18 am     #   1 person liked this

I think everyone is surprised by Collins' success yesterday. But I think that it is unlikely he will unseat Bell in November. Also interested to see two incumbent Council members (Martinez and Enright) finish so low in the run up to November. I am thinking they are probably keeping their powder dry for the general election but, with any luck, they will both out of a job soon.

posted by Ace_Face on Sep 11, 2013 at 09:29:25 am     #  

I think many likely Toledo voters remain pissed that Bell declared "indigent circumstances" when he re-negotiated union contracts. If labor continues to back Collins - he will have a good shot at the job.

posted by jimavolt on Sep 11, 2013 at 09:45:38 am     #  

many likely Toledo voters remain pissed that Bell declared "indigent circumstances" when he re-negotiated union contracts

If there were THAT many, Lopez would have won last night.

posted by justread on Sep 11, 2013 at 09:52:33 am     #   4 people liked this

"I think everyone is surprised by Collins' success yesterday. But I think that it is unlikely he will unseat Bell in November."

First, I forgot that Collins was an Independent. The November mayoral election consists of two "independents."

Again, the top four from yesterday:

(I) Michael P. Bell634027%
(I) D. Michael Collins580624%
(D) Anita Lopez544323%
(D) Joe McNamara532822%

Obviously, more people will vote in November, I think. But where does the support for McNamara and Lopez go? Will those supporters vote for Bell? That looks like a lot of anti-Bell votes yesterday.

Normally, the Blade does not make endorsements for the primary, but they did this year. The Blade chose McNamara.

Assuming the Blade still has influence, which mayoral candidate will the Blade endorse? It appears that the Blade is not a fan of Bell. And it's possible that the numerous anti-Lopez Blade articles made the difference in yesterday's primary. It seems that the Blade is a bit more neutral with Collins.

Here's what the Blade said about Collins in their Sep 8, 2013 editorial that chose McNamara:

City Councilman D. Michael Collins, who is running for mayor as an independent, has carved out a useful role as city-government gadfly during his six years on the council. He has raised pertinent questions about Bell administration policies on such matters as funding of homeless shelters, the city’s dumping of sludge near Lake Erie, and the official purchases of two luxury sport-utility vehicles.

But Mr. Collins’ capacity for inspirational leadership — a prerequisite for the mayor’s office — does not match Mr. McNamara’s; his demeanor is dry and professorial (he formerly taught at UT). His support by city police and fire unions — Mr. Collins is a former president of the police officers’ union —appears to respond to his backing of their agenda even when it was not always in the best interest of taxpayers.

Why is inspirational leadership a prerequisite for the Toledo mayor's office? Were Carty and Ford inspirational? Not being a meatball with Detroitification ideas should be a prerequisite.

Since Collins has almost no campaign money, then Collins is in great shape to win in November.

I'm still somewhat amazed at the lack of voters yesterday. In the September 2005 mayoral primary, Keith Wilkowski finished third with 9750 votes. I guess this year's candidates were not inspirational leaders.

posted by jr on Sep 11, 2013 at 10:16:46 am     #  

I can't help but wonder if somehow boxes of absentee ballots will be "discovered" at the early voting center and low and behold 99.9% of them were cast in favor of Ms. Lopez.........

posted by Foodie on Sep 11, 2013 at 10:22:06 am     #  

what this election proved to me is the unions' willingness to throw the baby out with the bath water. there is no democratic party anymore but rather factions of union support. and these unions, by and large, are not progressive in any way except for their own personal union contracts.

this election only doubles down the result of wilkowski losing four years ago when union leaders couldnt rally behind the democrat. another unfortunate reality from four years ago is black voters would not rally for the democrat, this despite the fact that wilkowski was the very first and strongest supporter of then senator obama in running for president. the actions and inaction of an arrogant and out of touch party leadership that led to the "B team" take over of the democratic party reared it ugly head.

so, four years ago union members and minority voters could not see past superficial fronts to vote in their actual self-interest. that created a circumstance this time around, along with continual interference from the blade, in which the only democratics running for mayor were two very flawed candidates. and the union support split even wider with collins garnering important and activist unions.

mcnamara ran an abysmal and negative campaign that made people dislike him AND not trust lopez as well. interestingly, mcnamara told bill hormann he was done being a public servant... hormann said hold on a minute you're just saying that cause you are in a bad place. at 36 mcnamara has shown an impatience and impertinence that makes me glad he did not advance. i have seen first hand and heard enough stories about lopez that i am glad she did not make it as well. the voters, given again the flawed democratic candidates, did right perhaps.

the democratic party in this county needs to get its act together and take the party back away from the unions. a certain amount of union support is a key component of the democratic party but only one component of a broad range of progressive issues. the way the divided factions of union led democrats behave you would think it was the only issue.

current elected democrats in the city and most especially county wide have shown absolutely no spine in addressing this issue. they run scared just trying like hell to make sure they never have primary opposition. it was under their leadership that "A team" and "B team" politics developed and then exploded but they are all getting ready for the big double and triple dips. and lord knows marci never gets involved in local politics.

what really needs to develop is a grassroots democratic party movement based on progressive issues, good governance including cleaning up years of service, double dipping, retirements package issues in a rational affordable manner. we can not count on existing pols to get the ball rolling because they are so invested in unions and their own double dipping retirement plans.

as far as the coming election, i think lots of democrats and the blade will get behind collins. i think he wins.

posted by enjoyeverysandwich on Sep 11, 2013 at 10:56:44 am     #   9 people liked this

^^^Great post, sandwich.

mcnamara told bill hormann he was done being a public servant

It is my intention to help him keep his word. After all, it's all about ethics.

posted by justread on Sep 11, 2013 at 11:05:27 am     #   4 people liked this

Anita may have had overwhelming union support, but how many of those folks live in Toledo?

Bell, a former firefighter, forgot one of the first rules of politics: You have to dance with them what brung ya. Now his former union supports his opponent.

Collins knows the above law all too well, and if he is elected, I worry that he will use Toledo's recent surplus to "make whole" those police and firefighters who had to take pay cuts.

This one's going to be a toughy.

posted by Anniecski on Sep 11, 2013 at 11:46:04 am     #  

Not tough at all. I already know where Bell stands, and if I am to be fair-minded, he is a pretty good Mayor. Best we've had in a while.

Of the two, I'll take another serving of Mike Bell.

posted by justread on Sep 11, 2013 at 12:25:43 pm     #   5 people liked this

Interesting results last night. Not really shocked Bell made it through. I also won't be too shocked if he wins, even if he is down in the polls leading up to election day. Something just happens with people when they enter the voting booth.

Looking at all of this thought brings a thought to mind. Is it time for city elections to just become non-partisan? Only 10 of the 30 larger cities in the country use partisan elections anymore. Here locally, the community I'm in is completely non-partisan. It seems the Toledo Primary is already setup to function within the nonpartisan system, but candidates aren't restricted from declaring political affiliation.

It just seems it would do some good to just eliminate the party affiliations to try to mix things up a bit better. If that is a no go, then go full on partisan with elections. Every seat can only have 1 candidate from one political party affiliation. The whole Dem Team A vs Team B thing is ridiculous.

Just some random ramblings.

posted by JustaSooner on Sep 11, 2013 at 12:27:47 pm     #  

Ethel posted at 05:52:14 AM on Sep 11, 2013:

Well the people spoke. The triple dipper will probably get re-elected. Maybe in his next term he can take some vacations, err I mean business trips to Africa and Australia too. I'm sure there are lots of companies in those continents that would love to build factories in Toledo. No wonder this town is a dump. Ignorant voters.

If all a person is focused on is getting factories for the Toledo economy, then they are the dumb and ignorant ones. This is a mostly service industry driven economy now and you can't keep all your eggs in the manufacturing basket. That is what has screwed Toledo over so much - and also what did Detroit in.

Some communities have great corporate citizens that reinvest in the local community. Toledo doesn't have that. If they get a little uncomfortable they flee to Perrysburg (OI) or Monclova (Dana). Sure additional manufacturing opportunities should be pursued, but not in spite of anything else.

posted by JustaSooner on Sep 11, 2013 at 12:32:31 pm     #   1 person liked this

Here is a random rambling from a single Keith Burris piece:

It is wholly inappropriate for Keith Burris to describe a list of male candidates using administrative and other non-appearance criteria and then describe Sandy Spang as "a basically pretty Republican." This is disrespectful and chauvinistic. We try hard today to describe people using other characteristics than attractiveness, you know... like we do when they are men.

It is also wholly inappropriate to refer to Ms. Lopez as "Miss Lopez." This is infantilization and is disrespectful.

Did this guy just step off of the set of Mad Men or something? Let me guess, he sends his "girl" to get his coffee?

posted by justread on Sep 11, 2013 at 12:39:35 pm     #   7 people liked this

I respect Bell for standing up to the unions when he realized there was a real problem and it was a last resort thing to do. It was a tough choice and it had to be made. Now, I don't agree with some of the decisions or actions the administration has made, but by and large, I like the direction of the city with him. I do like Collins also as he analyzes things to a good degree, but I also feel that is a fault of his. I feel with Mr. Collins, he would be a little too conservative or slow to act with bringing business back to Toledo where as Bell seems to be more aggressive.

I think the city got it right with the two best candidates to run but I would like to see Bell get another four years to finish what he started. Of course...I really have no vote. lol

posted by avinsurer on Sep 11, 2013 at 12:56:27 pm     #   1 person liked this

Has anybody just put it as plainly as can be? If not let me be the first. We're screwed, still.

posted by Erin on Sep 11, 2013 at 05:26:56 pm     #  

justread posted at 12:39:35 PM on Sep 11, 2013:

Here is a random rambling from a single Keith Burris piece:

It is wholly inappropriate for Keith Burris to describe a list of male candidates using administrative and other non-appearance criteria and then describe Sandy Spang as "a basically pretty Republican." This is disrespectful and chauvinistic. We try hard today to describe people using other characteristics than attractiveness, you know... like we do when they are men.

It is also wholly inappropriate to refer to Ms. Lopez as "Miss Lopez." This is infantilization and is disrespectful.

Did this guy just step off of the set of Mad Men or something? Let me guess, he sends his "girl" to get his coffee?

Not to be a homer, and I could be wrong, but I read that Burris line referring to her Republicness, and not about her appearance.

posted by Nolan_Rosenkrans on Sep 11, 2013 at 06:36:33 pm     #  

Not that it's a word anyway, but I meant Republicanness.

posted by Nolan_Rosenkrans on Sep 11, 2013 at 06:41:16 pm     #  

Nolan_Rosenkrans posted at 06:36:33 PM on Sep 11, 2013:
justread posted at 12:39:35 PM on Sep 11, 2013:

Here is a random rambling from a single Keith Burris piece:

It is wholly inappropriate for Keith Burris to describe a list of male candidates using administrative and other non-appearance criteria and then describe Sandy Spang as "a basically pretty Republican." This is disrespectful and chauvinistic. We try hard today to describe people using other characteristics than attractiveness, you know... like we do when they are men.

It is also wholly inappropriate to refer to Ms. Lopez as "Miss Lopez." This is infantilization and is disrespectful.

Did this guy just step off of the set of Mad Men or something? Let me guess, he sends his "girl" to get his coffee?

Not to be a homer, and I could be wrong, but I read that Burris line referring to her Republicness, and not about her appearance.

There was no ambiguity. And dammed if she isn't actually pretty when fact checked.
He wrote: "a basically pretty Republican."

If you can work out that sentence structure some other way than with Republican being a noun and a subject, allowing "pretty" to be an adverb rather than the adjective that it must be due to the rules of our language, and you are comfortable giving Mr. Burris writing lessons, I'd suggest you make him aware of his grammatical error.

College has gotten too easy, I fear.

posted by justread on Sep 11, 2013 at 07:21:20 pm     #  

I will give you this: the writing sucks.

Here's the ENTIRE and I stress ENTIRE sentence:

In the council races, the big stories are the return of Jack Ford, by a substantial vote, and Sandy Spang, a first-time candidate, local cafe owner, and neighborhood activist, and basically pretty Republican, who came out of nowhere to out-poll several old vets.

Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/Keith-Burris/2013/09/11/A-horse-race-Copy.html#yos8vo1ztb5fUV7U.99

posted by justread on Sep 11, 2013 at 07:23:57 pm     #  

Dam 43 words if you grant him the hypens. Let's say no on the "subject," but heck yes on noun.

Pretty is still an adjective.

Other than that, if anybody knows him to be pretty feminist, (or even a pretty feminist) I apologize for reading his tones as chauvinistic.

Apparently this was a hijack, so I apologize for that as well.

posted by justread on Sep 11, 2013 at 07:29:10 pm     #  

Erin posted at 05:26:56 PM on Sep 11, 2013:

Has anybody just put it as plainly as can be? If not let me be the first. We're screwed, still.

We're far more screwed by the city council results than the mayoral results. And I'm not speaking of the potential newcomers - I'd welcome some fresh thinking from Sandy Spang and Bill Delaney. But Jack Ford? Shaun Enright? Somebody please tell me what qualifies Enright other than his union ties and a large, ugly "D" after his name? And who's going to keep Jack awake?

posted by Foodie on Sep 11, 2013 at 07:39:58 pm     #   1 person liked this

I can't believe people want Fat Albert on city council

posted by bucknut on Sep 11, 2013 at 09:46:47 pm     #  

Mayor Ding Dong, er, Mayor Bell was on tv giving an interview and said that Toledo is an extremely safe city. Other cities are sending people to Toledo to find out how the city has been made so safe.

posted by hockeyfan on Sep 12, 2013 at 02:06:51 am     #  

Am I reading the vote totals correctly? Is Collins the top vote getter with only 1,886? Is turnout that pathetic?

If true, how hard would it be too organize only 2,000 pissed off Toledoans to write in a candidate (or 2) or send Opal to the November election to send a message? I'm dead serious.

posted by JoeyGee on Sep 12, 2013 at 08:10:52 am     #  

These are close to the final numbers:

Michael P. Bell 6340
D. Michael Collins 5806
Anita Lopez 5443
Joe McNamara 5328
Alan Cox 378
Michael R. Konwinski 283
Opal Covey 142

posted by upso on Sep 12, 2013 at 08:51:32 am     #  

Dangit, another great idea ruined by facts, lol.

posted by JoeyGee on Sep 12, 2013 at 08:58:07 am     #   2 people liked this

"Is Collins the top vote getter with only 1,886? Is turnout that pathetic?"

That was the total with only 16.4 percent of the precincts reporting. Successive comments show the count changes during the course of the evening as more precincts report, including final counts for the mayoral primary and the top 12 finishers for the Toledo city council at-large primary.

Final numbers for the Toledo and Maumee elections can be found in this pdf file at the Lucas County Board of Elections website. The BOE calls the numbers "Unofficial Final Results."

"If true, how hard would it be too organize only 2,000 pissed off Toledoans to write in a candidate (or 2) or send Opal to the November election to send a message? I'm dead serious."

Good idea for 2017.

posted by jr on Sep 12, 2013 at 09:12:18 am     #   1 person liked this

Great minds think alike--or maybe I'm just stealing your thoughts and not realizing it.

Great work on all the election coverage, JR.

posted by JoeyGee on Sep 12, 2013 at 09:20:34 am     #  

"If true, how hard would it be too organize only 2,000 pissed off Toledoans to write in a candidate (or 2) or send Opal to the November election to send a message? I'm dead serious."

Good idea for 2017.

OPAL FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONER

posted by justareviewer on Sep 12, 2013 at 12:13:40 pm     #  

"chattering class."

Same term exact condescending term used by "RadioRadio" in a recent defense of the Blocks.

Now, one week later, the same exact phrase shows up an an editorial criticizing Bell.

How random is that?

posted by justread on Sep 12, 2013 at 12:44:58 pm     #   5 people liked this

From this Blade "featured" editorial :

Voters, too, must become more engaged. Toledo is their city. A primary turnout of 15 percent is deplorable and inexcusable, especially given the ample opportunity people had to vote early and by absentee ballot.

The best analysis about this week's primary was posted as a comment for this Blade editorial:

85% OF VOTERS SEND MESSAGE: WE DON'TCARE

Theory: The non-voters are happier than the voters

posted by jr on Sep 12, 2013 at 01:50:52 pm     #  

@Justread: As Jethro Leroy Gibbs says on NCIS, "I don't believe in coincidences."

posted by Mariner on Sep 12, 2013 at 02:03:22 pm     #   2 people liked this

I'm more inclined to believe that voters are simply fed-up with nothing changing no matter who gets elected. Empty promises, lies, manipulating numbers, etc., etc., demotivates any potential voter.

Maybe annual approval voting should be introduced. Every year either vote to keep or elect a new person to the position.

Maybe MTV can do another "Rock the Vote" campaign. lol

posted by hockeyfan on Sep 12, 2013 at 02:59:20 pm     #   1 person liked this

hockeyfan posted at 02:59:20 PM on Sep 12, 2013:

I'm more inclined to believe that voters are simply fed-up with nothing changing no matter who gets elected. Empty promises, lies, manipulating numbers, etc., etc., demotivates any potential voter.

Maybe annual approval voting should be introduced. Every year either vote to keep or elect a new person to the position.


Maybe MTV can do another "Rock the Vote" campaign. lol

But, for the most part, the voters of this area continue to elect candidates cut from the same cloth so how could anything change?

I've been watching and waiting for 30+ years to see something different actually happen - but it hasn't for the reason listed above.

Again, for the most part, the same old, same old continue to get recycled through the various public offices. Then we get their relatives who ride in on the name coat tails and the sheeple continue to fall for it. Year after year after year..........

I'm very much hoping that Delaney and Spang end up on council. Both bring business and private sector know-how and Bill is guaranteed to shake things up. It would be wonderful if Tom Wasniewski wasn't always the lone wolf trying to prevent the 11 others from pi$$ing away our tax dollars.

posted by Foodie on Sep 12, 2013 at 03:54:07 pm     #   4 people liked this

I'm more inclined to believe that voters are simply fed-up with nothing changing no matter who gets elected. Empty promises, lies, manipulating numbers, etc., etc., demotivates any potential voter.

Which we're seeing play out on a national stage right now:

American People: Why the f**k do we want to be in Syria after a decade in other Middle Eastern shitholes. Hell no!

Obama, Bohener, McCain, Kerry, etc.: Nope, we're throwing bombs whether you stupid assholes in the country like it or not! It's for the children.

What difference? Why should anyone vote? Bogus, man...

Again, for the most part, the same old, same old continue to get recycled through the various public offices.

Jack Ford, on death's doorstep practically, is a "great choice" for council?

Just amazing.

It would be wonderful if Tom Wasniewski wasn't always the lone wolf trying to prevent the 11 others from pi$$ing away our tax dollars.

Wa is good people. And I'm sure he gets frustrated with the absolute clowns he has to navigate in that job.

posted by oldhometown on Sep 12, 2013 at 04:13:15 pm     #   3 people liked this

It will never change until there is a major change in how politics are handled.

1) Eliminate all At-Large City Council seats. Take it down to just 6 seats.

2) Term Changes. City Council switches to 3 year terms. They are also limited to 2 total lifetime terms.

3) Non-partisan election. Each district has a primary. Top two from each district face off and cannot declare any political affiliation or be directly involved in a political party. They also will be limited on the amount of donations they can get from a party - restricted the the standard single individual limit.

Of course it isn't just Toledo City Council that needs fixed. The Lucas County Commissioner seats need to be changed as well. Split Lucas County into 3 districts that cover equal population. Each commissioner would then be elected by that district only and responsible for maintaining the needs of that area. This would help break things up to ensure those in far Western Lucas County have their needs met, as well as those in Eastern Lucas County.

Of course the only way anything will change is if the city charter gets modified by a vote of the people...which the unions and democrats would go out of their way to block. Once people have power, they are fearful of losing it and will do what they must to keep it.

posted by JustaSooner on Sep 12, 2013 at 06:26:11 pm     #  

Municipal elections are non-partisan primaries. No one was asked their party affiliation when they went to vote. If candidates choose to use a D, R, or I behind their names, it is because they want to appeal to Ds, Rs and Is.

posted by Anniecski on Sep 13, 2013 at 08:50:36 am     #  

Anniecski posted at 08:50:36 AM on Sep 13, 2013:

Municipal elections are non-partisan primaries. No one was asked their party affiliation when they went to vote. If candidates choose to use a D, R, or I behind their names, it is because they want to appeal to Ds, Rs and Is.

Then they aren't truly non-partisan. Here you aren't even allowed to declare political affiliation or be directly involved in the party for the benefit of your campaign. It also keeps the parties from being able to throw their full financial assistance behind a candidate.

posted by JustaSooner on Sep 13, 2013 at 12:24:26 pm     #  

Tom Troy Blade blog: McNamara disappointed in party's lack of council slate

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Boo-f@*king-hoo.

Don't forget--he could be a governor...or Senator...or more ...someday...

posted by oldhometown on Sep 13, 2013 at 07:19:57 pm     #  

He is nothing more than a buffoonish empty suit. But, that won't stop the sheeple in this area from continuing to vote for him.

posted by Foodie on Sep 13, 2013 at 09:12:07 pm     #  

Good work on the election coverage also JR:)

posted by Ethel on Sep 16, 2013 at 06:15:49 am     #  

The battle begins for the November mayoral election.

Sep 16, 2013 - Toledo Blade - Mayoral candidates meet in first forum - "Spirited disputes emerge on economic development and public safety"

The event was the American Institute of Architects Toledo's annual "legislative dinner" held in the Toledo Club. There were about 50 people at the dinner, which is a traditional kick-off to the city's general election season.

Mr. Collins came out aggressively, saying Mr. Bell didn't do enough to ensure local professionals, including architects, would be involved in the Marina District project. He said the developers, Chinese-based partnership Dashing Pacific Group, were talking to a design firm in Vancouver.

Collins now carries the xenophobia torch. Good job, you memory-challenged hack.

August 2013 news :

... city spokesman Jen Sorgenfrei pointed out the [Marina District] property was city-owned for more than 12 years, during which multiple development plans failed.

Back to the Sep 16 Blade story:

Mr. Bell replied that the city can prefer local contractors and professionals, but can't tell a private company who to hire.

"If Dashing Pacific had not purchased that land, it would still be sitting there, wind blowing through it, and we would not be collecting the taxes that are helping our county," he said.

More:

Mr. Bell and Mr. Collins disagreed on whether to reopen the northwest district police station. Mr. Collins said he would simply reassign police units, including the rape unit, the domestic violence unit, and traffic to that office.

The mayor said the building can't be reopened without a cost to taxpayers, and said that police Chief Derrick Diggs has not asked to reopen the building and has succeeded in reducing the crime rate.

Since Toledo's population has declined by nearly 30,000 people since 2000, fewer people exist to report crimes, so the perception is less crime.

posted by jr on Sep 16, 2013 at 10:48:52 pm     #