Kept getting blocked with buy or figure it out from the headlines... Pay or leave... Have to start looking at the TV stations for news...
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"Have to start looking at the TV stations for news."
"Pay or leave"
It is appalling that professionals would like to be paid. I'm stunned at how often the items that I want at The Andersons have a price tag.
"Why is there no haggling in this country? You’re telling me there’s no room to move on pasta." - GC
Why not just continue reading it for free using an incognito web browser?
Google "Adblock Plus" Install this in your browser. Problem solved.
What jr said...
Most people who know me, know me as a computer, network and security tech-guy. So I have another interest here. I am still a geek. So... sorry about the long-winded nature of this comment...
I do understand why many people are upset about pay meters. It is the fault of the news outlets. They (we) did not take the Web seriously in 1994.
News people misunderstood the future of the Web (So did many other folks...)
The typical reaction to the Web was, "Yeah put some of the stories on a web page. Then they (geeks and kids) will get a taste of what the real product (newspaper) is like." So, they thought only a small part of the population would ever choose the Web over TV, radio and newspapers. The Wall Street Journal charged for content from the very beginning.
News advertising revenue decline is causing lay-offs, and closings
The news industry is still struggling with the changes. The TV people are worried, too. Now, many DVR the shows that they like in order to watch later. (time-shifting?) Many folks are fast-forwarding through commercials. Something has got to give. Frankly, the ad agencies seem to be coming up with more entertaining commercials (IMHO). However, the viewers still fast forward. I am impressed with TV biz people exploiting of the "second screen" phenomena. Still... revenue for some is bleeding away. For others, well, let's say a tourniquet might help.Many radio and TV holding companies that are suffering or are fearful of revenue loss in the future.
There are always going to be ways to evade paying for content. For many professionals - stay at home moms and dads included - it became obvious that wasting time avoiding the pay meter was more expensive to them than paying for it.
Cloud-based software is not always compatible with ad blockers
Many applications now use the browser to interface with cloud-hosted programs (cloud-computing and storage) SaaS, CaaS, NaaS, PaaS, etc. etc." From Wikipedia":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing: "Many cloud applications do not require specific software on the client and instead use a web browser to interact with the cloud application. With Ajax and HTML5 these Web user interfaces can achieve a similar, or even better, look and feel to native applications." I have cloud-based apps I use that will not work properly with ad blocking programs. Everything looks great while I work with the program, at first. Then (always towards the end of the work, of course) the ad block/privacy software causes some function or another to fail. Then, I have to start over again.
I think in another thread, someone mentioned that they have a "clean" browser installed for such work. I found that I didn't have the time to switch back between browsers. Frankly, with 8Gs of RAM (the maximum RAM you can order) on a 2013, I7, Macbook Air, I have so many tabs open that opening another browser or ONE more tab on the current browser can cause some performance problems. I, at times, have to restart the machine. Granted, my work is mostly Web-based.
Anyway, I pay The Blade for news. Unfortunately, we let our subscription run out, recently. So, I received the same pop-up. Both my wife and I very busy - who isn't? We were forgetting to renew every week. Yep. I ran out and bought newspapers. (funny huh?) Anyway, I had to work around the paywall, it was irritating. My wife finally called The Blade Circulation Department. She put the subscription in her name, instead of renewing in my name (for all I know she was trying to get on of the subscription deals). Anyway, that caused an issue with me trying to log into toledoblade.com - all of this was my fault.
For Blade employees reading this... Yes, I could have picked up a paper at work, or walked down the hall to renew. Frankly, I did neither. I was embarrassed that, as a Blade manager, I had let my subscription expire and could not use the Web page (without a hack) or get a delivered newspaper for weeks.
I would like to convince you that the decision to implement a pay meter was the only thing we could do. If I can't accomplish that, at least I can offer some entertainment. And if I what I write isn't entertaining, then well... Do I get an "E" for effort?
[sarcasm]You can thank that some attorney who uses the birth and death notices in his job for posting on his Web page how stupid The Blade was for not charging for content, since he was making such great money using the information.[/sarcasm] Yes. JRB emailed the link to me a couple of years ago. More fun...
Instead of "You can thank that some attorney...) it should read "You can than some attorney..." I should have stayed out so late last night. :)
No that wasn't part of the entertainment. I'm just glad that I don't make a living writing on deadline - the editors would be unhappy with me.
I found the Web site! Here is the first paragraph of an attorney's post that was pointed out to me in a fairly urgent way.
'Almost every local newspaper has an online edition. *What does this mean to me? In addition to getting a free newspaper every day, it means that some poor individual at the local newspaper types up every news article, before uploading it to the newspaper’s website.* The end result is that thousands of news articles, past and present, can be easily searched in a matter of seconds.'
He uses the attorney information for making money in his practice.
So, people have been letting us know buy sending my boss and other owners information like this for more than three years. It took us two more years before The Blade implemented a pay meter.
Oh, here's the link to the how-to he was sharing with whatever audience he was trying to impress.
As much as I think the Block Bros. Are weird little twits, $60 a year for the Blade online doesn't seem outrageous.
Ok Paul, carry on with your domination of this thread.
I would gladly pay the $60.00 except for one thing. Only if it included a built in ad blocker that did away with those damn in your face popups. Until then no way.
Another option, toledofreepress.com
You know, you're making a very good case for JR to implement an edit feature... and I thought I was in bad shape.
Am in worse shape madjack after discovering a pencil eraser does not work on a monitor screen.
madjack: Boy, do I need an edit feature (And an editor!). Have any of you noticed that LinkedIn doesn't always give you edit capability, either? Comments can't be edited. And you get 15 minutes for Post or "conversations." After that, if you think of anything else to add, you are impaled by a "cylindrical shaft with helical grooves or ridges."
does the $60 include any archive searching/retrieval?
Another option, toledofreepress.com
But hurry - before BCI sues them out of existence.
from Tom Z., The Blade's Audience Development Manager
"A digital subscription includes unlimited access to any of The Blade’s digital products, including the features of those products. Those features differ from product to product. For example, toledoblade.com has a search feature on the front page, whereas eBlade does not have a search feature. However, in eBlade you can access the archives of the past editions all the way back to November of last year."
I was able to pull up a story from 2000. I don't think that we started the Web site before 1994 or 1996.
If you are looking for more ancient archives, The Lucas County Public Library has almost everything on microfiche. I don't know whether you can get that via their Web site, however.
paul hem asked "how's that?"
other than the particular article you accessed "archer seeing motown as a city on the move" being totally wrong (unless he meant a swirling downward motion)...
... thank you for the info
Yes, Paul, the pop-up full-screen ads attached to the Blade's website are particularly annoying. Even though I'm a (paper) subscriber I avoid the Blade's website whenever possible. I've started scrutinizing other people's links to stories before I click on them -- if it leads me to Blade sites, I usually back off and seek info by other routes.
If it weren't for the pop-up ads, I would be happy to look at the Blade's web resources.
Thank you for letting me know, viola.
The problem is, no one likes ads. I fast forward past the TV ads when I DVR a show. (using DVR as a verb?).
Anyway, I think that I will use enjoyeverysandwich's and viola's comment to perform some Superior Street disruption.
That would make me the Superior Street Disruptor! Probably fits me better than social media manager.
Thanks for your concern, Paul. If not for your presence in this forum I would not bother contacting anyone at the Blade. But your (Blade's) web presence was poorly designed and off-putting from the very beginning (some aspects having since been corrected, like background color & such). I truly don't mind the presence of ads. But the Blade's current pop-up method is really, really awful. And as a design choice, it's driving business away from your web pages.
I am no web expert -- far from it! I embrace the neoLuddite lifestyle. But I am capable of basic web research and I submit the following, for your consideration:
Washington Post web product: Multiple ads on front page contained within boxes, just as they would be on the printed page. When clicking through to follow a story, the ads change on the second page (and presumably thereafter) but stay off to the side of the text.
Gainesville (FL) Sun web product: Banner ad across the top of the front page, also ads in boxes off to the side. Banner ad changes as the reader clicks through to different stories, as do the smaller ads off to one side.
Atlanta Journal-Constitution web product: As soon as one arrives on the main page, a banner ad opens up (expanding its box) and shoves the newspaper text downward. Whoever wants to read the story can either arrow downward a bit, or just wait a few seconds as the banner ad magically shrinks back to its original size. Other ads appear throughout all pages, both in banner position up top and off to one side. I have to admit, the expando-shrinkage feature was kind of charming and I would actually look forward to visiting that website again :-)
And the classiest presentation of a web product, IMHO: the New York Times.
I know they have probably had many incarnations, but what I caught today was a pop-up ad that temporarily blocked the front page. It said "Your free access to this paper has been sponsored by ... [insert corporation and logo]". The pop-up was kind of transparent; I could still see a bit of the news article link which I was trying to follow. And as I watched, the whole ad dissolved and faded away. Then ordinary pages came back into view, with banner ad up top and small ads off to one side. I left with a feeling of gratitude: how nice that I got a free pass for one day and how great that a company wanted to be identified as the sponsor of the day.
There are many, many different ways to present advertising material. Some of the ways are more intrusive than others. Some are very clever and are worth admiring and revisiting even though I know it's just a bunch of ads. I would really love to see the Blade offer an interesting, high-quality, modern approach to web ads.
But using opaque popups in bright colors that block the content and remain on my screen after leaving the site -- that's a really outdated approach. As previously stated, I'm no web expert, but within your company, I would seriously question the professional qualifications of the person/department responsible for designing the advertising component of your web product. /end rant!
And again, thanks for making yourself available to take some lumps on behalf of your employer.
Wow! No one in more than 40 years of business has been so kind to help me with research like this. Never!
I will try my best to get results, viola.