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HB 153????

Does anybody know what is happening with the medical marijuana initiative? I think it is HIGH time, that people in pain are allowed to choose an alternative to the pill nation policies, that currently exist. Safer and non addictive medicine is out there, and why should Ohioans have no other alternatives?

created by newintown on Feb 02, 2014 at 03:50:41 am     Comments: 33

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They could always drive up to Michigan...

posted by someguy23475 on Feb 02, 2014 at 06:37:37 pm     #  

Where it is available on nearly every street corner store..........

posted by Foodie on Feb 02, 2014 at 10:43:51 pm     #  

Stuck in committee.

Here's another bill that was intro'd in 2013, also stuck in committee... that actually LEGALIZES fully. We could really use the tax revenue and law enforcement / incarceration savings right about now, too.

http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/res.cfm?ID=130_HJR_6

https://secure2.convio.net/mpp/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=2097 <-- this will allow you to send a message to your state senators and reps. I'd suggest doing it.

posted by endcycle on Feb 03, 2014 at 11:35:42 am     #   1 person liked this

Endcycle, thanks for the link! It's time to end the reefer madness.

posted by JnJ on Feb 04, 2014 at 09:27:51 am     #  

I have no idea if there are more concrete numbers now that things are actually happening, but I remember when they were throwing estimates around for Washington and Colorado, they were in the hundreds of millions a year for each, in terms of increased state revenues solely from the tax on marijuana. Ohio is the size of Washington and Colorado combined, so that could be... serious!

posted by Johio83 on Feb 04, 2014 at 10:03:48 am     #  

Weed should be legalized. The advertising campaigns would practically write themselves.

Come to O - HIGH - OH and get high.
State regulated for purity and potency.

What a change from "Ohio - the no fun sate" that rules against strip clubs, gambling and all other fun things that people are inclined to do if given the opportunity.

We were discussing this over beers at my favorite watering hole over the weekend and the biggest argument against legalizing was that workers and drivers could be high and thereby create unsafe conditions. My pessimistic reply was that those who choose to abuse are likely already high already. There are laws on the books that allow police to charge a driver who is high - even if they do not consent to blow into the machine. If tests are failed, the driver loses. Same criteria could be used for workers suspected of being under the influence of drugs or any type.

I don't even know if I'd light up if pot was legal or not but the billion$ we piss away incarcerating weed smokers is crazy. According to the trivia questions in the morning rag, 55% of Americans think pot should be legal.

When I get the opportunity, I'll be voting in favor of legalizing weed for recreational use.

posted by jimavolt on Feb 04, 2014 at 12:13:02 pm     #   1 person liked this

"We were discussing this over beers at my favorite watering hole over the weekend and the biggest argument against legalizing was that workers and drivers could be high and thereby create unsafe conditions."

...you know, we already have laws against people doing idiotic things like driving under the influence and workplaces also have regulations for safety. Keeping pot illegal doesn't influence whether people are fucktards, you know? :)

posted by endcycle on Feb 04, 2014 at 12:16:00 pm     #   3 people liked this

I know. I was not on that side of the argument. My Mama didn't raise no fucktard.

posted by jimavolt on Feb 04, 2014 at 03:03:00 pm     #   5 people liked this

jimavolt posted at 02:03:00 PM on Feb 04, 2014:

I know. I was not on that side of the argument. My Mama didn't raise no fucktard.

my mama didn't either, but.... i do some pretty stupid things sometimes.

posted by endcycle on Feb 04, 2014 at 04:07:04 pm     #  

Considering all the people out there driving on prescription medications...ie: Kerry Kennedy, I think that drugged driving is a much bigger problem than a responsible adult that may or may not be driving, after a few puffs.

posted by newintown on Mar 04, 2014 at 01:44:42 pm     #  

newintown posted at 12:44:42 PM on Mar 04, 2014:

Considering all the people out there driving on prescription medications...ie: Kerry Kennedy, I think that drugged driving is a much bigger problem than a responsible adult that may or may not be driving, after a few puffs.

Yeah? You ever try driving after a few hits of Mongolian hash?

posted by madjack on Mar 04, 2014 at 03:14:15 pm     #  

I'm guessing that isn't asian food.

posted by justread on Mar 04, 2014 at 03:15:36 pm     #   3 people liked this

Interestingly, there have been multiple well-run studies showing that marijuana doesn't actually make you a less safe driver.

THAT HAVING BEEN SAID: if you get behind the wheel while intoxicated, you're an idiot.

posted by endcycle on Mar 04, 2014 at 03:45:35 pm     #   1 person liked this

So... we need a shortage of idiots?

posted by madjack on Mar 04, 2014 at 03:57:09 pm     #  

I really think that people should read the labels on pill bottles...they always say use caution when operating a vehicle....not don't drive. We have a lot of drugged drivers out there!!!
I am not sure how this topic has turned from what is going on with HB 153, to people trying to drive while smoking Mongolian hash????

posted by newintown on Mar 05, 2014 at 12:51:01 pm     #  

newintown posted at 11:51:01 AM on Mar 05, 2014:

I really think that people should read the labels on pill bottles...they always say use caution when operating a vehicle....not don't drive. We have a lot of drugged drivers out there!!!
I am not sure how this topic has turned from what is going on with HB 153, to people trying to drive while smoking Mongolian hash????

It's Toledo Talk. Most conversations take such odd twists and turns.

You'll get used to it.

posted by Foodie on Mar 05, 2014 at 01:36:18 pm     #  

"I am not sure how this topic has turned from what is going on with HB 153, to people trying to drive while smoking Mongolian hash????"

Gateway drug.

posted by justread on Mar 05, 2014 at 01:44:17 pm     #   2 people liked this

Oh, come on. That was funny. :)

Tough crowd. :(

posted by justread on Mar 05, 2014 at 07:48:23 pm     #  

justread posted at 06:48:23 PM on Mar 05, 2014:

Oh, come on. That was funny. :)

Tough crowd. :(

I hrrrmphed.

posted by slowsol on Mar 05, 2014 at 08:44:55 pm     #  

I'll take it. :)

posted by justread on Mar 05, 2014 at 10:00:21 pm     #  

Soooo.... in other news, sounds like Alaska is next on the legalization tax-dollar-train. I'd really love to see Ohio following suit.

posted by endcycle on Mar 06, 2014 at 11:17:39 am     #  

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/05/health/gupta-medical-marijuana/index.html Also, there's this.

posted by endcycle on Mar 06, 2014 at 05:58:52 pm     #  

Isn't the original poster to this thread the same person who "lost" their pit bull in their own back yard?

posted by justareviewer on Mar 06, 2014 at 09:27:36 pm     #  

justareviewer, you are pretty ignorant to try to say that my family pet, that my husband, children and myself, watched be born, was "lost" from my backyard, because I use cannabis. I am a 45 yr old mother of 3. My daughter is currently studying finance at UNC, and my sons have both graduated college, and the oldest has a double masters in accounting. My husband passed away. I did not deserve to have someone steal my family pet. I also do not appreciate the innuendo that because I use cannabis, my dog was "lost". In fact, my dog was stolen. You should review some facts about cannabis, and people that use it for medical reasons. You should also review your ignorance and callousness, and try to correct your very poor behavior. Shame on you!!!!

posted by newintown on Mar 07, 2014 at 04:59:45 pm     #   1 person liked this

Just curious, and I don't even know why. But here it goes.

Why does he have two masters in the same subject?

posted by justread on Mar 07, 2014 at 05:10:36 pm     #   2 people liked this

I meant double masters in accounting and finance.

posted by newintown on Mar 07, 2014 at 05:14:21 pm     #  

I see.
You know, in all fairness, getting high could lead to forgetting to close the gate. Doesn't mean short term memory loss makes people "deserve" misfortune and loss of a spouse.

posted by justread on Mar 07, 2014 at 05:26:56 pm     #  

Let me guess...your son's wife is name Mary Jane? Two degrees? A spliff degree? :-)

posted by Dappling2 on Mar 07, 2014 at 06:27:15 pm     #   1 person liked this

I haven't much cared about this topic, but thought I'd throw this in...

Forgive the source, but I have no doubt its fairly accurate:

TMZ.com: Colorado RAKES IN MILLIONS IN POT TAXES In One Month

posted by oldhometown on Mar 10, 2014 at 08:44:25 pm     #  

oldhometown posted at 08:44:25 PM on Mar 10, 2014:

I haven't much cared about this topic, but thought I'd throw this in...

Forgive the source, but I have no doubt its fairly accurate:

TMZ.com: Colorado RAKES IN MILLIONS IN POT TAXES In One Month

Just January - http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/colorado-marijuana-taxes-brought-in-2-million-in-january/2014/03/10/5411257e-a891-11e3-8599-ce7295b6851c_story.html

TWO MILLION DOLLARS in tax revenues. Add to that the savings from police not having to enforce marijuana busts, the lower burden on courts, the people who are now gainfully employed in the non-black-market economy... it's insane that it's still illegal anywhere. Ohio needs to be in the lead on this issue - we have amazing farms and a great agricultural landscape, and... well.. we need the money.

posted by endcycle on Mar 11, 2014 at 09:57:59 am     #  

MISSOURI is ahead of us.

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/10/4880290/missouri-house-committee-considers.html

posted by endcycle on Mar 11, 2014 at 01:34:02 pm     #  

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/colorado-collected-35-million-in-legalized-marijuana-taxes-and-fees-during-january

make that 3.5 million in just january. Holy cow.

posted by endcycle on Mar 12, 2014 at 02:43:19 am     #  

Maybe when they see the revenue that is being generated by allowing adults to use marijuana, there will be a change. Try to tell any adult, what they can and cannot do with their own body, and it will usually fail. I use marijuana, and I am very comfortable with my choice, and I do not use any pharmaceuticals. I would rather get buzzed from bud, than zombified from Xanax!!!!

posted by newintown on Mar 28, 2014 at 05:02:17 pm     #