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Best place to sell unwanted guns?

My uncle passed away nearly twenty years ago and I have been holding on to a shotgun and a few handguns of his since. I am thinking about selling them. Can anyone recommend a local gun shop that would look at them and give me a "fair" price? I don't want to sell privately, looking for convenience and peace of mind along with a little cash.

created by squidgereen on Feb 22, 2014 at 03:04:11 pm     Comments: 28

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I've been to the Maumee Valley Gun Collectors shows several times, and there are a LOT of people buying and selling.

You can bring your guns to the show and sell direct to buyers or people on the floor. Might be worth checking out.

http://www.mvgca.com/
Next show is march 8-9

posted by upso on Feb 22, 2014 at 03:05:36 pm     #  

You can do it cheap and easy and get large exposure through www.gunbroker.com. Much easier than you think, but you must ship through an FFL dealer. I recommend Bills Gunshop in Waterville. For 50 bucks plus the shipping fee I will do it.

posted by ilovetoledo on Feb 22, 2014 at 03:07:27 pm     #  

Gunbroker is also a great way to get a sense of the approximate value of a particular firearm based on what other are willing to pay for similar items (or not pay, as the case in some auctions).

posted by justread on Feb 22, 2014 at 03:28:12 pm     #  

The best place to sell them is in the parking lot across the street from Cleland's. The crowd generally picks up after 11:00 PM.

Seriously, any gun shop has to make a profit and there are a few dealers who truly believe that the profit margin should start at around 300%. After that, the sky's the limit.

Go to gunbroker and find out what the gun will sell for, which you can do with a little research and a 'buy it now' button. Put a price on each one and go to the gun show in March. Get there early and start ambling around. People will ask what you've got for sale, and unless you're talking about something really rare you'll likely be able to sell everything in an hour or so.

If you want, post a list of make, model and caliber on TT and I'm sure you'll get some idea about what your guns are worth.

posted by madjack on Feb 22, 2014 at 04:10:02 pm     #  

Do you Facebook? Look up a page called Toledo gun traders. You can post photos of what you have and they'll help you out. Gun broker might be a good place to go to vsee what similar models are going for. Also, gander mountain buys and sells used guns

posted by billy on Feb 22, 2014 at 05:16:45 pm     #  

Do you Facebook? Look up a page called Toledo gun traders. You can post photos of what you have and they'll help you out. Gun broker might be a good place to go to vsee what similar models are going for. Also, gander mountain buys and sells used guns

posted by billy on Feb 22, 2014 at 05:24:59 pm     #   1 person liked this

Btw... Shot in the dark here... The shottie doesn't happen to be a semi auto with a left side eject does it?

I'm getting ready to buy a new one but only because I didn't find used.

posted by billy on Feb 22, 2014 at 05:28:25 pm     #  

billy posted at 04:28:25 PM on Feb 22, 2014:

Btw... Shot in the dark here... The shottie doesn't happen to be a semi auto with a left side eject does it?

I'm getting ready to buy a new one but only because I didn't find used.

That's a rare bird.

However, Cabela's just a Remington 870 Wingmaster LH in their system used. Looks nice. $600
I found it here: http://www.gunsinternational.com/Remington-Left-Handed-870-Wingmaster-12-Gauge-.cfm?gun_id=100418189

posted by justread on Feb 22, 2014 at 06:01:28 pm     #  

Gunbroker and Bill's or a gun show are your best choices. I didn't know about the FB group, I'll definitely be joining that one

posted by taliesin52 on Feb 23, 2014 at 05:25:45 am     #  

madjack posted at 03:10:02 PM on Feb 22, 2014:

The best place to sell them is in the parking lot across the street from Cleland's. The crowd generally picks up after 11:00 PM.

Seriously, any gun shop has to make a profit and there are a few dealers who truly believe that the profit margin should start at around 300%. After that, the sky's the limit.

Go to gunbroker and find out what the gun will sell for, which you can do with a little research and a 'buy it now' button. Put a price on each one and go to the gun show in March. Get there early and start ambling around. People will ask what you've got for sale, and unless you're talking about something really rare you'll likely be able to sell everything in an hour or so.

If you want, post a list of make, model and caliber on TT and I'm sure you'll get some idea about what your guns are worth.

Like folks that want a second opinion? Does Cleland's tend to lowball people?

posted by Ace_Face on Feb 23, 2014 at 11:55:28 am     #  

You'd do much, much better to sell them privately. If you're worried, just state that all buyers must have an Ohio CHL (concealed handgun license) and conduct the sale at a safe place. A gun shop may be willing to allow you to do it there, but probably not.

If you go that route please let me know, I'm always looking to add to the collection. If you go the dealer route please post which dealer so we can go and check them out.

posted by Erin on Feb 23, 2014 at 12:22:00 pm     #   1 person liked this

I driver's license is more than sufficient ID if you need to know who you are selling to, and that they are a resident of the state of Ohio. If they are registered to a dead man, (or not at all) it really doesn't matter. Our state allows private sales and doesn't require background checks or registration. You MUST NOT sell to a person for the purpose of getting around their disability to legally purchase.
HELL NO a gun shop won't let you do it there.

The upcoming gun show is both appropriate, and safe if a private sale is desired.

posted by justread on Feb 23, 2014 at 01:38:11 pm     #  

Does Cleland's tend to lowball people?

Not that I'm aware of. My point is that Cleland's needs a profit margin to stay in business, so my used 1911 .45 might be valued at $300 if Marge Cleland decides she wants to buy it, but will increase to $400 as soon as it goes into the display case.

These days if I'm selling anything I'll just go to the gun show and start walking around with a For Sale sign on my gat. Most stuff sells right away.

posted by madjack on Feb 23, 2014 at 04:53:50 pm     #  

IME Cleland's does lowball. I don't have many friends who deal with them outside of the range

posted by taliesin52 on Feb 23, 2014 at 04:56:50 pm     #  

I'm not going to claim to be unbiased; I have long-standing family and other connections to Cleland's; with that said ...

My point is that Cleland's needs a profit margin to stay in business, so my used 1911 .45 might be valued at $300 if Marge Cleland decides she wants to buy it, but will increase to $400 as soon as it goes into the display case.

$300 to $400 is hardly the 300% you first referenced, but maybe that 300% figure wasn't directed at Cleland's but other places.

There is a lot of work that goes in to selling a used gun from the standpiont of liability, risk, as well as federal paperwork as required by the FFL. And that's before you even get to the issue of overhead and paying sales staff.

IME Cleland's does lowball.

Any offer Cleland's makes is going to be based on condition, what the overall market is, what they currently have in stock as well as the time of year and trends. It admittedly does not take in to account sentimental value or having been shot only a 'few' times - used is used. Heck, even 'never shot/new' has to be considered used if its not coming from a manufacturer or distributor.

On the other hand, a gun can be sold to Cleland's on a walk-in basis at almost any time. It can be sold by the owner with the peace of mind that Cleland's abides by all laws with regard to selling only to people who are qualified under federal law including the required background check. Even if they don't come in with one, all guns go out the door with a lock. Safety is paramount. Straw purchasers and intoxicated buyers are turned away for the safety of all.

Trust me, if you ever get that knock-on-the-door from the FBI wanting to know where a certain firearm is that you purchased years ago, being able to say you sold it to a place like Cleland's - or some other gun store - is a whole lot easier on the mind than trying to find that copy of an ID that you tossed somewhere in your filing cabinet.

posted by MrsArcher on Feb 23, 2014 at 06:15:03 pm     #  

I recommend keeping the record of who you have sold guns to(which were registered to you) in the safe with your current guns.

posted by justread on Feb 23, 2014 at 09:23:57 pm     #   2 people liked this

I recommended the CHL part because that way you know the person is allowed to own a firearm, and if it makes you feel better, that they have passed a background check. BTW, I'm still interested in hearing what you have, and yes, I have my CHL. I'm even willing to go to a FFL to do a transfer if you like if you have a gun I want to buy.

posted by Erin on Feb 27, 2014 at 03:26:53 pm     #  

To the original poster: Many people are "allowed" to own a firearm who do not choose to have a CHL. Why would a shotgun enthusiast, for example, have one? The majority of legal firearm enthusiasts do not have a concealed handgun license.

CHL holders have no advanced ownership rights over other adults who are not under any disability. (A term the BATF uses)

If you really want to "feel better" about it, only sell to someone you personally know. Not somebody on the internet.

A CHL simply means that a person has passed a background check, taken some classes, proved basic proficiency, and sent a picture to the Sheriff. It doesn't mean that they are a good person or that they will never do a bad act with your weapon. The man who recently killed an unarmed teenager in Florida had a CHL license. He was a nut case who will spend the rest of his life in prison. The person who legally sold him that weapon is not ethically, morally, or legally responsible for his terrible choice.

If you are concerned enough to make a legal private buyer jump through unrequired hoops, save yourself the trouble and sell it to a dealer for less and move on.

posted by justread on Feb 27, 2014 at 04:07:13 pm     #   1 person liked this

I almost forgot for a minute that the original poster specifically said that he/she doesn't want to sell privately.

posted by justread on Feb 27, 2014 at 04:22:43 pm     #  

A gun, like anything else I can think of, is worth whatever you can get for it. If someone wants to sell a gun to a dealer only, unless it's rare, the dealer will put it up for sale as soon as you leave the store, in most cases to a a private citizen. You should really research your stuff, too. Be prepared as well, to hear the prospective buyer list all the things wrong with your stuff, to get you to sell. There are plenty of folks right here who can give you a ballpark idea of what you can expect to be paid. Don't forget "condition" either. It's as important as who manufactured the gun is. Good Luck!

posted by Wulf on Feb 27, 2014 at 05:34:09 pm     #  

I have always used this as a general guide.

https://bluebookofgunvalues.com/

posted by Wydowmaker on Feb 28, 2014 at 09:28:57 am     #  

Almost forgot that I posted this... thanks all for the answers. If I can get to the show tomorrow I think that I will take at least one with me and see what happens.

posted by squidgereen on Mar 08, 2014 at 04:45:15 am     #  

squidgereen posted at 03:45:15 AM on Mar 08, 2014:

Almost forgot that I posted this... thanks all for the answers. If I can get to the show tomorrow I think that I will take at least one with me and see what happens.

I have been told that there are guys that hang out just inside the entrance to these shows looking to lowball newbies before they have a chance to shop around. I don't know if that is accurate, but take your time.

posted by Ace_Face on Mar 08, 2014 at 10:03:01 am     #  

Ace_Face posted at 10:03:01 AM on Mar 08, 2014:
squidgereen posted at 03:45:15 AM on Mar 08, 2014:

Almost forgot that I posted this... thanks all for the answers. If I can get to the show tomorrow I think that I will take at least one with me and see what happens.

I have been told that there are guys that hang out just inside the entrance to these shows looking to lowball newbies before they have a chance to shop around. I don't know if that is accurate, but take your time.

Very accurate, I've been one of those "guys".

Making an offer on a sale is not taking advantage of a "newbie", come prepared to sell and you will never have an issue. I mostly find people want almost new prices for used fire arms, I'm not buying used to save 20 dollars.

Making an offer never forces anyone to take said offer.

posted by dbw8906 on Mar 11, 2014 at 09:58:22 am     #  

Ace_Face posted at 10:03:01 AM on Mar 08, 2014:
squidgereen posted at 03:45:15 AM on Mar 08, 2014:

Almost forgot that I posted this... thanks all for the answers. If I can get to the show tomorrow I think that I will take at least one with me and see what happens.

I have been told that there are guys that hang out just inside the entrance to these shows looking to lowball newbies before they have a chance to shop around. I don't know if that is accurate, but take your time.

Very accurate, I've been one of those "guys".

Making an offer on a sale is not taking advantage of a "newbie", come prepared to sell and you will never have an issue. I mostly find people want almost new prices for used fire arms, I'm not buying used to save 20 dollars.

Making an offer never forces anyone to take said offer.

posted by dbw8906 on Mar 11, 2014 at 09:58:26 am     #  

Did you go to the gun show last weekend? Attendance was a little light, but people I spoke with were selling things. I found some ammo that wasn't priced too awful high, which was nice. I think most handguns, particularly automatics, were overpriced. For instance, I have a Springfield 1911 Mil-Spec that I bought new for $400. The same pistol in beat to death used was being offered for $650. Go figure, huh?

posted by madjack on Mar 12, 2014 at 12:02:39 am     #  

Thought about going and looking around for an SKS. I was afraid it would be really busy and did other things instead. Bummer.

posted by justread on Mar 12, 2014 at 07:11:15 am     #  

Great Lakes Gunworx in Rossford had a NORINCO SKS 7.62×39 for about 375 not long ago. 400 with 280 Rds of ammo

Right now they are doing a card drawing for a Remington 1911 R1 Enhanced Threaded Brl 45acp. Each card is 20 bucks limit one per person per day. All they do is sell you a card from a deck of cards.

posted by lfrost2125 on Mar 12, 2014 at 07:38:13 am     #