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LOST YORKIE

http://www.presspublications.com/from-the-press/13448-lost-dog-once-helped-man-through-stroke

Very sad that this elderly man had his dog picked up by a motorist and it was never returned. Who picks up a small dog that is wearing a pink coat thinking it was abandoned?

created by renegade on Feb 24, 2014 at 09:03:44 pm     Comments: 36

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That sucks.

They should go to the TV stations with the story, maybe the woman and her kids will have a sudden realization that they STOLE a freaking dog.

posted by justread on Feb 24, 2014 at 09:19:22 pm     #  

I was considering sending this guy some money to add to the reward, hoping a higher amount might make things happen faster. Would that be out of line?

posted by Sohio on Feb 24, 2014 at 09:21:21 pm     #  

Maybe the kindness of strangers will lift his spirits just a little.

posted by justread on Feb 24, 2014 at 09:25:11 pm     #  

justread posted at 08:19:22 PM on Feb 24, 2014:

That sucks.

They should go to the TV stations with the story, maybe the woman and her kids will have a sudden realization that they STOLE a freaking dog.

That would be something, wouldn't it? Do you suppose those childrens' excitement over the new adorable dog that unexpectedly came into their lives, would be dampened a little bit by the image of the weeping old man they stole it from?

It would serve that mother right. What a great example to set for those kids.

posted by Sohio on Feb 24, 2014 at 09:33:27 pm     #  

I'm sorry, I can't see this as 'stealing' the dog from a elderly man. If I saw a dog running around a busy, busy road like that, I would assume it was lost, ran away, etc. Would I try to find the owner? Sure, but I don't equate me rescuing a dog with stealing it.

Right now, we have a dog that's been in our house since November that we found outside our house. Did I steal it just because I haven't found the owner? No. I saved a dog on a busy road.

If I ever lost my dog, I would pray to God that a nice person found it and rescued it and saved it, as opposed to saying they stole a dog when they were just trying to do something nice.

Compassion for a 'lost' dog is a great example to set for kids.

Maybe I've been on the finding end of things too often; we've rescued several dogs and too many cats to count, and never once found the owners in the process.

posted by MrsArcher on Feb 24, 2014 at 09:53:57 pm     #   3 people liked this

Good points. But, it's been two weeks. Nobody has brought the dog to the shelter, and from the sounds of it, nobody has contacted the shelter to see if anyone is looking for this dog.

I'd say a period of a few days is reasonable...we all have busy lives. But after two weeks? It's pretty clear this person intends to keep the dog.

It WAS nice of them to save the dog from certain death on Route 2. But if they are going to make no effort to find the owner after two weeks? That isn't right. That IS stealing. Finding something and rescuing it is admirable, but it doesn't give you the right to just KEEP it.

posted by Sohio on Feb 24, 2014 at 10:19:09 pm     #  

Not one of the dogs we have found was turned over to the county dog warden; too much of a chance of a death sentence there still.

We called other rescues and shelters, and were told they get their dogs from the pound and don't have room for the dogs we find (basically, they told me the dog we found had a home - ours). We would post on craigslist and K100, the Blade once I think with no luck.

I guess my point is - what is a person supposed to do to find an owner? Sometimes best efforts on both sides still doesn't mean a happy ending. The article says he's passed circulars, and certainly this news article is a good move and hopefully it works. But what else has he done? It doesn't say hes contacted the pound and shelters.

But absent some proof that the lady who picked the dog up knows about and is purposefully ignoring the owners pleas, I think she does have a right to keep a dog she rescued. We certainly have kept the current dog we found - it was VERY well fed but poorly groomed, so it was only a week or so that we looked for the owner.

The one before that was probably the prettiest red tick hound I had ever seen and well trained, but we couldn't find the owners so we found her a good home. Is it a good thing or a bad thing that its my bleeding-heart husband that finds these animal when we live near a park were people tend to drop off dogs?

posted by MrsArcher on Feb 24, 2014 at 11:04:29 pm     #  

"But what else has he done?"

The family made a Feb 13 Craigslist posting in the lost and found section. Another posting about the missing dog was made on Feb 14.

From the article:

The dog’s tags had been removed before it went to the groomer’s so they wouldn’t get lost, said Addie. “That was a big mistake,” she said.

posted by jr on Feb 24, 2014 at 11:21:27 pm     #  

Justread said: "They should go to the TV stations with the story, maybe the woman and her kids will have a sudden realization that they STOLE a freaking dog."

I agree, justread. Hopefully the broadcast stations will do something on this. An 80 year old man crying for his dog breaks my heart.

posted by renegade on Feb 25, 2014 at 12:33:26 am     #   2 people liked this

MrsArcher posted at 10:04:29 PM on Feb 24, 2014:

Not one of the dogs we have found was turned over to the county dog warden; too much of a chance of a death sentence there still.

We called other rescues and shelters, and were told they get their dogs from the pound and don't have room for the dogs we find (basically, they told me the dog we found had a home - ours). We would post on craigslist and K100, the Blade once I think with no luck.

I guess my point is - what is a person supposed to do to find an owner? Sometimes best efforts on both sides still doesn't mean a happy ending. The article says he's passed circulars, and certainly this news article is a good move and hopefully it works. But what else has he done? It doesn't say hes contacted the pound and shelters.

But absent some proof that the lady who picked the dog up knows about and is purposefully ignoring the owners pleas, I think she does have a right to keep a dog she rescued. We certainly have kept the current dog we found - it was VERY well fed but poorly groomed, so it was only a week or so that we looked for the owner.

The one before that was probably the prettiest red tick hound I had ever seen and well trained, but we couldn't find the owners so we found her a good home. Is it a good thing or a bad thing that its my bleeding-heart husband that finds these animal when we live near a park were people tend to drop off dogs?

Actually, it does say that he contacted the pound. They called the Dog Warden right away.

posted by Sohio on Feb 25, 2014 at 02:25:28 am     #  

Mrs. Archer, with all due respect, the woman who supposedly "rescued" this dog has an obligation to find the owner. The groomer apparently was in pursuit of the dog. But the motorist just took off, not waiting a few minutes to see if it even got out of anyone's vehicle. C'mon. The dog had its leash still attached. I hope the woman does the right thing and makes a real effort to find the owner.

posted by bikerdude on Feb 25, 2014 at 04:46:23 am     #  

Shame the owner temporarily took the tags off.

However, the notion that the suspects "rescued" a well-groomed dog trailing a brand new clean leash and wearing multiple items of new, clean doggie clothing is flawed, in my opinion. Kind of like "finders-keepers" gone wrong.

You know, some people put up "found" posters and run "found" ads? I mean, if they truly "rescued" the dog and all....

Maybe they could find the dog the same way they find baby snatchers. The proud new mama can't resist showing off the new baby.

posted by justread on Feb 25, 2014 at 06:44:21 am     #  

"But absent some proof that the lady who picked the dog up knows about and is purposefully ignoring the owners pleas, I think she does have a right to keep a dog she rescued."

Is there a billboard available anywhere near the "rescue" site? If so, maybe that is something worth donating to.

20 foot picture of the dog:
"Hey Lady, my name is Little Bitz."
"I wasn't lost."

posted by justread on Feb 25, 2014 at 06:59:50 am     #  

All of my dogs have been rescue dogs, one way or another. I've always tried to find the owner. The only time we actually found an owner was when my father found a little poodle out near Woodville, and he rescued the little dog from being run over. We called him Pierre and started looking for his owner by running ads in the paper and such, but no luck. Then we discovered that Pierre needed medication for seizures, which we provided. About two months down the road Dad saw an ad about a lost dog that needed seizure medication, and it turned out to be Pierre. When the family came over to pick him up, it was real evident that Pierre was their dog and they sure were happy to have him back.

But that's the only time it happened. The rest of the time we ended up with a real nice dog.

If Little Bitz is chipped and ever gets taken to a veterinarian, she'll show up on the lost dog list.

In my opinion, if you find a lost dog it's your responsibility to do the best you can to find the owner, if for no other reason than to confirm they no longer want the dog and dropped it off somewhere.

posted by madjack on Feb 25, 2014 at 03:23:38 pm     #   2 people liked this

People that drop off their pets to get rid of them, should be beaten with in an inch of their lives.

posted by MIJeff on Feb 25, 2014 at 03:33:07 pm     #  

I read this Saturday at the hairdressers right across the street from where it happened and my first thought was, why don't tiny dog owners use pet carriers for their dogs while in the car? My second thought was, he's had multiple strokes and he's driving without anyone with him? His hands are so weak he can't hang on to a leash but he's driving? My third thought was, what professional groomer looses a dogs tags while grooming them? This whole thing was just one big accident waiting to happen. I thought about this man all day and was so sad, but it all could have been avoided so easily. 20/20 hindsight.

posted by nana on Feb 25, 2014 at 04:13:03 pm     #  

"My third thought was, what professional groomer looses a dogs tags while grooming them?"

According to the news story, that's not what happened. From the story:

Frantic, George and his wife, Addie, checked with Lucas County Canine Care & Control (formerly known as Lucas County Dog Warden) in hopes the woman had turned in the dog. But no such luck. The dog’s tags had been removed before it went to the groomer’s so they wouldn’t get lost, said Addie. “That was a big mistake,” she said.

posted by jr on Feb 25, 2014 at 04:23:25 pm     #  

yes, jr, I understood that, maybe I should have said, why did they worry that a professional groomer would lose the dogs tags? Is that a common occurrance?

posted by nana on Feb 25, 2014 at 05:02:47 pm     #  

Maybe we've all been played and the dog was running for his life.

Little Bitz was willing to risk everything in an epic attempt to flee a life of pink dog clothes and grooming. Like a doggie Andy Dufresne. Crawling through a river of crap (played by the east side) to flee Warden Norton (played by the old man) to come out clean on the other side and reunite with Red (Played by the lady who rescued him).

Nahhh.

posted by justread on Feb 25, 2014 at 06:49:24 pm     #  

nana posted at 04:02:47 PM on Feb 25, 2014:

yes, jr, I understood that, maybe I should have said, why did they worry that a professional groomer would lose the dogs tags? Is that a common occurrance?

You know something nana, the man wasn't thinking. Now he's lost his dog, he's in absolute misery and you want to start some kind of tap dance on his gravestone. Why don't back off about five miles or so?

posted by madjack on Feb 25, 2014 at 08:54:09 pm     #   1 person liked this

damn, Jack, who pissed in your cornflakes? All I'm doing is asking a few questions, making a few comments, and feeling just as bad as everyone else, so cram it.

posted by nana on Feb 25, 2014 at 09:33:00 pm     #  

My better half advises that the dog was returned this morning. A person saw the article in The Press and was aware that a relative had the dog.

The Press is supposed to be doing a follow-up article next week.

posted by jimavolt on Feb 25, 2014 at 09:36:19 pm     #   1 person liked this

From the story:

Decker had taken the 10 lb. dog to Nose to Tail grooming at 3308 Navarre Avenue for a 9:30 a.m. appointment on Feb. 11.

Little Bitz, with its pink leash trailing behind, crossed Navarre Avenue and ended up near the BP Gas Station.

“A woman stopped in her car and said to me that someone had just picked up the dog at the corner of Navarre and Coy."

Businesses located at the corners of that intersection include BP, Rite-Aid, and I think a drive-thru carryout. [Third Base Drive Thru Party ?]

I suppose a distraught family member, running out of ideas and hope, could enquirer about the possibility of a surveillance camera catching something. If a business camera was aimed at its parking lot, could the camera capture the intersection area? Is a possible stolen dog reason enough to view video if the footage existed?

posted by jr on Feb 25, 2014 at 09:43:44 pm     #  

jimavolt posted at 08:36:19 PM on Feb 25, 2014:

My better half advises that the dog was returned this morning. A person saw the article in The Press and was aware that a relative had the dog.

The Press is supposed to be doing a follow-up article next week.

Disregard my previous comment.

That's fine news about the returned dog.


Now to the media bashing.

The dog was returned Tuesday morning??

A follow-up article next week??

Does The Press realize that it has a website?

http://www.presspublications.com

I would think that a little update to the original story would be a good idea.

It appears that their stories permit comments. A Press person could add a comment, saying the dog was returned.

No updates on their social media sites either:

https://www.facebook.com/pressnewspapers

https://twitter.com/pressnewspapers

Okay.

posted by jr on Feb 25, 2014 at 09:55:17 pm     #  

Hooray! an Old Yorkie is better than a New Yorkie!

posted by justread on Feb 25, 2014 at 09:57:55 pm     #  

My wife belongs to a facebook group called "Toledo Lost and Found Pets". She advises it is a great resource for those who lost or find a pet.

posted by jimavolt on Feb 25, 2014 at 10:07:36 pm     #  

justread posted at 08:57:55 PM on Feb 25, 2014:

Hooray! an Old Yorkie is better than a New Yorkie!

Oh man is that bad. Bad dog, JustRead. Bad. No biscuit.

My teeth hurt.

posted by madjack on Feb 26, 2014 at 11:13:16 am     #  

"...The man wasn't thinking. Now he's lost his dog, he's in absolute misery and you want to start some kind of tap dance on his gravestone. Why don't back off about five miles or so?"

Great news that the dog was returned. But yeah, madjack, the poor guy was crying, blaming himself. He didn't need anyone smacking him when he was down.

posted by bikerdude on Feb 26, 2014 at 12:25:37 pm     #   1 person liked this

The Press published a new story today.

Feb 26, 2014 - Missing Yorkie, Little Bitz, returned to owner

Excerpts:

George Decker had his prayers answered on Tuesday [Feb 25]. Little Bitz, his three year old Yorkie mix that’s been missing since Feb.11, was returned to him and his wife, Addie after someone recognized a photo of the dog that appeared with an article in The Press last week.

“We got her. She’s sitting right here in my lap,” George told The Press Tuesday afternoon.

After their story appeared in The Press last week, calls came pouring in, said Addie. George said [he] was grateful for the support from the community. “Everyone wanted to get involved,” he said.

Someone suggested putting an ad in Toledo’s daily newspaper, but Addie said they had already done so before contacting The Press “and we didn’t get one call.”

On Tuesday morning, they got the call they were waiting for.

“A young woman said `I think I have your dog,’” recalled Addie. The woman’s grandmother had read the story in The Press and informed her the dog she had found was George and Addie’s.

“I asked the woman to call Little Bitz by her name to see if she would respond,” Addie said when she got the call. The woman, according to Addie, said the dog wasn’t paying attention to her.

“I said `Let her hear my voice on the phone,’ and when I called out to her, Little Bitz knocked the phone out of that woman’s hand and was licking the phone,” said Addie.

posted by jr on Feb 26, 2014 at 01:30:27 pm     #   1 person liked this

I am so happy to read he got his dog back. Great job Press!

posted by golddustwoman on Feb 26, 2014 at 01:44:23 pm     #  

Best news I've read today!

posted by Foodie on Feb 26, 2014 at 02:11:36 pm     #  

That still doesn't answer the question we debated here: was the woman who picked up the dog evil, or simply misunderstood?

posted by Sohio on Feb 26, 2014 at 02:17:50 pm     #   4 people liked this

Sohio posted at 01:17:50 PM on Feb 26, 2014:

That still doesn't answer the question we debated here: was the woman who picked up the dog evil, or simply misunderstood?

Gimme two dollars regular and check the oil.

posted by madjack on Feb 26, 2014 at 03:08:42 pm     #  

Thanks for the post, JR. It's nice to get a little good news now and again.

posted by madjack on Feb 26, 2014 at 03:09:32 pm     #  

@Sohio: I think the relative who recognized the dog applied some pressure to the woman to return it after reading about how miserable the poor guy was. I'm sure she was going to keep it.

I wish there were more articles like this in the media. Too many stories about some poor dog frozen to the sidewalk, or someone lighting a cat on fire. A little balance, please.

posted by bikerdude on Feb 28, 2014 at 06:52:44 pm     #  

Oh, I know, bikerdude. That was a joking reference to a different thread, on the /p/ board. A thread so insidious, I'm still having nightmares about it, weeks later. I have to joke about it to keep from weeping with despair for the human race.

posted by Sohio on Feb 28, 2014 at 06:57:49 pm     #