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Do you watch the Oscars?

I haven't watched the Oscars for about 10 years. I can't stand watching a bunch of hypocritical elites swoon over each other.

Do you watch?

created by Starr15 on Mar 01, 2014 at 11:42:41 pm     Comments: 33

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I record it, then just watch the parts I want to.

posted by gamegrrl on Mar 02, 2014 at 01:19:07 am     #  

Wow star-how are you supposed to answer that?

Film is art. I love celebrating it. I actually watched Her and Dallas buyers club tonight in anticipation. The oscars is often gawdy and obnoxious, but that's the entertainment media fully to blame. I don't necessarily love the idea of competing for these completely subjective performances, but I love the conversation.

At this hour, I think Her was the best picture-what does everyone else think?

posted by ahmahler on Mar 02, 2014 at 02:11:25 am     #  

I've hardly seen any of the films this year, which bums me out.

Yeah, there are parts of the program itself that I can do without, but I'm sure part of that is me being spoiled by being able to be very, very picky with my watching, thanks to my DVR.

ahmahler, I totally understand your "how are you supposed to answer that?" comment: That was kind of my first take when I read the initial post.

I love movies. And, like you said, the Oscar celebration is often 'gawdy and obnoxious'. But somewhere deep down, I do really love watching "The Beautiful People" strut and wave. It's just good voyeuristic fun, to me.

I suppose if I weren't pretty darn satisfied with my lot in life I might experience some sort of 'sour grapes' as I watch people on the red carpet wearing shoes that cost more than I make in a year, but even if I was a rich and famous movie star, I don't think I'd ever want to drop a small fortune on a pair of Jimmy Choos or whatever. They look really uncomfortable. LOL!

posted by gamegrrl on Mar 02, 2014 at 02:48:18 am     #  

No. I could give a rat's behind for the Hollyweird crowd. Largely, with a few exceptions, a group of self-absorbed, out of touch, phony-balony hypocrites.

I have many better ways (for me) to spend my time.

posted by Foodie on Mar 02, 2014 at 06:04:07 am     #   2 people liked this

Point of order: famous people don't pay for shoes. :D

"I can't stand watching a bunch of hypocritical elites swoon over each other."

I don't watch the Oscars or State of the Union addresses for the same reason.

posted by justread on Mar 02, 2014 at 08:09:44 am     #   2 people liked this

Hahahaha! You are SO right about the shoes!

posted by gamegrrl on Mar 02, 2014 at 09:08:45 am     #  

I do love watching the Grammys and such though.

posted by gamegrrl on Mar 02, 2014 at 09:14:45 am     #  

I don't watch the awards, but I enjoy reading the results the next day.

posted by madjack on Mar 02, 2014 at 09:59:26 am     #  

Nope

posted by upso on Mar 02, 2014 at 11:00:09 am     #  

Never watched them.

posted by slowsol on Mar 02, 2014 at 11:09:06 am     #  

One of my favorite guilty pleasures: Nikki Finke tweeting out zingers during the show: https://twitter.com/NikkiFinke

I think this set decor was rejected by Liberace as too gaudy.

Which moron is making these Oscar telecast music decisions? 'Lincoln' for Brad Pitt? 'Willy Wonka' for Lupita?

Thought this the year of diversity in front and behind the movie biz? Instead just keep seeing parade of white male winners.

How many of his movies must bomb before H'wood stops casting Zac Efron? His teen idol days long gone. He's just another Taylor Lautner.

At least Ellen DeGeneres is better than disastrous Anne Hathaway. She counted every one of James Franco's lines and bitched he had more.

Supposedly Ellen selfie received most retweeets ever. In other news ABC execs on ledge because it means people not watching telecast.

posted by oldhometown on Mar 03, 2014 at 12:23:38 am     #  

In my opinion, Oscar lost all credibility in 1964, when MY FAIR LADY beat DR. STRANGELOVE for best picture. I mean...come on.

It was confirmed in 1968, when DR. DOOLITTLE came very close to winning best picture, despite being one of the most Godawful things ever created, strictly on the merits of the ass-kissing campaign undertaken by the producers.

On top of that, with GHOSTBUSTERS and THE BIG LEBOWSKI entirely snubbed, I think it's safe to say: Oscar has no credibility.

Just my opinion. Sir.

posted by Sohio on Mar 03, 2014 at 12:35:26 am     #  

I do love The Big Lebowski--Jeff Bridges is THE best in that.

posted by Starr15 on Mar 03, 2014 at 12:47:47 am     #  

Starr15 posted at 11:47:47 PM on Mar 02, 2014:

I do love The Big Lebowski--Jeff Bridges is THE best in that.

Agreed. And, while it is accepted tradition that the Oscars generally ignore comedies, I consider that one more example of a lack of credibility. They openly dismiss an entire genre? Hell with that.

posted by Sohio on Mar 03, 2014 at 12:50:03 am     #  

I think this appropriately sums up my feelings on the Oscars along with all of the swooning and faux outrage over winners, losers, and dresses.

posted by RBancroft on Mar 03, 2014 at 07:18:41 am     #  

There is valid evidence why it is termed tinsel town, La La Land. Artistic creative works remain of value only over the test of time. Largely ignored, even snubbed by the film community, "All Is Lost," by both title and substance reflects the state of the nation today. The main character, the only character, in the end did what the nation will most certainly do as well... survive.

posted by Mariner on Mar 03, 2014 at 08:59:33 am     #  

Nope

posted by clt212 on Mar 03, 2014 at 10:45:00 am     #  

Nope, you didn't like the movie? Nope, the movie has nothing to do with the current state of affairs? Nope, Hollywood is a bastion and shining light of moral rectitude? Nope, the nation doesn't stand a tinkerbells' chance in hell of furtherance?

posted by Mariner on Mar 03, 2014 at 10:57:16 am     #  

Wow a Mexican in liederhosen? Running in a mudder race?

posted by MIJeff on Mar 03, 2014 at 10:59:27 am     #  

I always watch it, even if I haven't seen the movies.

I love movies, and would go every week if I could. I'm in awe of the storytelling, the characters, and yes, the beautiful people making art.

I haven't seen Dallas Buyers Club, but it's on my list. I've been watching McConaughey in True Detective, and I'm in awe of the man.

Do they get it wrong sometimes? Well, yeah. It's an industry. Hell, the Renault Alliance was car of the Year in the 1980s.

posted by Anniecski on Mar 03, 2014 at 11:02:58 am     #  

Don't watch the Oscar's - probably because I have little respect for hypocritical Hollywood. That said... one of my favorite movies I picked up this year was directed by... of all people... Sean Penn called Into The Wild and a great deal of the underlying content conflicts with my more fiscally conservative positions. And... a great deal of the music I listen to and books I enjoy are contradictory as well.

I'm just not ready for the Branson MO type entertainment. Contradictions... contradictions....

posted by Danneskjold on Mar 03, 2014 at 11:21:01 am     #  

Mariner posted at 09:57:16 AM on Mar 03, 2014:

Nope, you didn't like the movie? Nope, the movie has nothing to do with the current state of affairs? Nope, Hollywood is a bastion and shining light of moral rectitude? Nope, the nation doesn't stand a tinkerbells' chance in hell of furtherance?

I was simply answering the question posed in the subject line. Nope, I do not watch the Oscars.

posted by clt212 on Mar 03, 2014 at 11:24:54 am     #  

Last night was the first time I've sat down and watched the oscars all the way through. My wife and kids essentially insisted, since I'm making them watch Cosmos next Sunday (which everyone here should watch, too).

Here are my thoughts:
1: Ellen Degeneres is a badass. She's pretty good at hosting, and maybe has done more for LGBTQ acceptance than any other public figure in history.
2: Gravity won a lot of awards.
3: Matthew McConaughey is weird. Genuine, but weird. The kinda weird that allows someone to obsess over being the absolute best at what he does. I loved his characterization of his dad hanging out watching from above.
4: Samsung figured out how to game the system bigtime - give Ellen their flagship new-release phone, ask her to tweet a few times live, and watch what happens. I didn't even know the S5 was released until that started happening.
5: Jared Leto's acceptance speech might have been the highlight of the night for me.

It's definitely a self-congratulatory and elitist event (maybe even a bit masturbatory), but I think they actually got it right for the most part in terms of who won what. Not a lot of surprises anywhere to be found.

posted by endcycle on Mar 03, 2014 at 12:18:34 pm     #  

I am also very excited about the return of Cosmos.
Dr. Tyson is a wonderful successor to Carl Sagan and this will be a must see show. My kids saw Neil deGrasse Tyson's Dark Universe at the Hayden Planetarium and are looking forward to Cosmos.

posted by CharmedQuark on Mar 03, 2014 at 02:09:24 pm     #  

The Oscars is very good at making Americans go see movies that are good and important. If all of the other "on the red carpet" BS has to exist in order to shine the spotlight on truly great and important films like Dallas Buyers Club and 12 years a slave, as well as incredibly original films like Her, then it's a small price to pay. You can hate Hollywood all you want, but do you hate people like Leto, and Spike Jonze , Alfonso Cuaron, Steve Mcqueen, hell even Meryl Streep? No, because they make art, and they are recognized, and this is the forum in which it's done. If The Oscars wasn't such a big event, most of the nominees wouldn't get made. Hell, I'll argue that I'm usually pissed after Oscar night-tons of movie I thought were mediocre at best (Shakespeare in Love, Kings Speech, Forest Gump, Black Swan) have swept awards, but then I remember that it's subjective, and there were 8 very good (Wolf wall Street was NOT good IMO) films nominated for Best Picture this year. I watched them all, and have once again remembered why Film is such a great medium.

The pre- and post oscar coverage is something I opt out of completely, but Jared Leto and Lupta Nyong'o, I mean, c'mon...

posted by ahmahler on Mar 03, 2014 at 02:24:59 pm     #   1 person liked this

Me either clt and don't wanna be a buzzkill for those who enjoy it. Guess am just not a fan of borrowed gowns and obscenely priced women's footgear. With all the channels offered by my paid tv really wish there was still talent around to put out more worth watching. (returning to viewing how to get a more glamorous and shapely buttocks by buying their product)

posted by Mariner on Mar 03, 2014 at 03:19:31 pm     #  

Mar 3, 2014 - Entertainment Weekly - Oscars ratings - Most-watched entertainment telecast in 10 years :

The 86th Annual Academy Awards set a major ratings record: Sunday’s telecast was the most-watched entertainment telecast in 10 years.

The 3.5-hour program hosted by Ellen DeGeneres delivered a whopping 43 million viewers and a 12.9 rating among adults 18-49. That’s the biggest non-sports audience since NBC’s 2004 Friends finale. It also represents the third year in a row for the ratings to rise, up 6 percent from 2013. The Oscars out-delivered January’s Golden Globes by 22.1 million viewers and the Grammy Awards by 14.5 million viewers.

According to Nielsen’s Social Guide, there were 11.2 million tweets about the event, with overall Oscar social media activity outpacing last year by 75 percent. ABC’s Oscar’s Red Carpet Live pre-show was also up, with the final half-hour delivering 27.6 million viewers.

The ratings boost also carried over to late-night host Jimmy Kimmel’s post-awards show. Rising for the third year in a row, the 9th annual Jimmy Kimmel Live: After the Oscars was up 22 percent to 7 million viewers.

posted by jr on Mar 03, 2014 at 03:21:34 pm     #  

As a point of reference, this year's Super Bowl had 111.5 million viewers.

posted by Starr15 on Mar 03, 2014 at 11:56:47 pm     #  

A headline on Yahoo said it all. It said something like, "diversity the big winner at 86th Oscars".
The best movie was directed by a Black man, best director was a Latino and it was hosted by a lesbian.
So, apparently it's not about talent or exceptional performances anymore, it's about race, ethnicity, and sexual orientation.

posted by JeepMaker on Mar 04, 2014 at 11:10:02 am     #   4 people liked this

Is that what it's about? Or, was that just what a Yahoo headline was about...?

posted by Sohio on Mar 04, 2014 at 01:42:50 pm     #  

JeepMaker posted at 10:10:02 AM on Mar 04, 2014:

A headline on Yahoo said it all. It said something like, "diversity the big winner at 86th Oscars".
The best movie was directed by a Black man, best director was a Latino and it was hosted by a lesbian.

So, apparently it's not about talent or exceptional performances anymore, it's about race, ethnicity, and sexual orientation.

Interesting that this is your takeaway.

From what I can tell (having seen a good amount of the winners), the choices made by the academy weren't based on race, ethnicity, or sexual orientation but rather by artistic merit.

It's definitely interesting and a nice change that the winners are a diverse group. Is that a bad thing somehow to point out?

posted by endcycle on Mar 04, 2014 at 03:47:55 pm     #   2 people liked this

don't forget: best supporting actress was Black, best supporting actor portrayed a transvestite, best actor was playing an AIDS patient, Best Actress was Aussie.

But hey, maybe we're almost to the point when none of this stuff is even worth mentioning or pointing out. Unfortunately, we're still not quite there.

posted by ahmahler on Mar 04, 2014 at 06:46:58 pm     #  

Mar 4, 2014 - Poynter.org - Executive 'winced' when he saw Daily Breeze's Oscars headline

Michael Anastasi is the vice president of news and executive editor for Digital First Media’s Los Angeles News Group, which publishes The (Torrance, Calif.) Daily Breeze.

He’s spoken to the Breeze’s editors, he said. “They feel terrible and have taken responsibility,” he said. “It should never have happened. There will be internal discipline," Anastasi said, declining to elaborate.

http://www.dailybreeze.com

posted by jr on Mar 04, 2014 at 08:03:04 pm     #