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Turtle Island, Lake Erie

Turtle Island is in the beginning planning stages of cleanup and restoration. We plan on this being no longer than a 1-2 yr plan. The owner has asked me to help on a the project. A crane sits on the edge of the island and we would like it removed. The island project is looking for a more than capable company/service that wants the crane for free....scrap it out...it has a diesel engine. We just want it gone. Suggestions are appreciated. Thank you.

created by dino on May 21, 2014 at 10:23:15 pm     Comments: 27

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What is planned for the island? I went there on a boat trip last summer and was sad to see what a sorry state it was in. I'm glad to hear something is going to be done to clean it up!

posted by Anniecski on May 22, 2014 at 09:14:39 am     #  

"What is planned for the island?"

The obligatory TT answer to that type of question is "Mexican restaurant."

posted by jr on May 22, 2014 at 09:35:27 am     #   7 people liked this

I remember they started to build some new buildings there around 2000 but Monroe county issued a stop order on the new construction (part of the island is in Michigan, part is in Ohio). Haven't heard anything more about it until now.

posted by Mike21 on May 22, 2014 at 09:45:49 am     #  

JR beat me to it!

posted by Molsonator on May 22, 2014 at 09:49:19 am     #  

I look forward to going to the new Mexican restaurant.

posted by OhioKimono on May 22, 2014 at 10:06:57 am     #   1 person liked this

Mike21 posted at 09:45:49 AM on May 22, 2014:

I remember they started to build some new buildings there around 2000 but Monroe county issued a stop order on the new construction (part of the island is in Michigan, part is in Ohio). Haven't heard anything more about it until now.

The fact that the island is split by a state line is the least of its problems.
That island was a big deal in the days before the current Toledo Harbor Light. It was larger than 6 acres back then. The lighthouse was very legit for the times. But the weather kept beating the hell out of the lighthouse and keeper's quarters and eroding the island.

2002 was the first stop work order. They pretty much ignored it and continued with two structures. Then, in 2008, another stop work order and demolition order was issued because of the total lack of a plan to deal with sewage from the planned bed and breakfast.

Ice pretty much did the demolition the following winter. The island is now smaller than 1.5 acres, and unlike other Lake Erie island is not rock. It's just gravel, clay, and sand that the federal government added over the years.

I don't think that development is advisable or sustainable. (Even if they created a magic plan to hold sewage and transport it off of the island.)

posted by justread on May 22, 2014 at 10:08:03 am     #  

Pity. "Twould make a good seasonal cathouse.

posted by Mariner on May 22, 2014 at 11:45:59 am     #   1 person liked this

We'll always have Put In Bay.

posted by justread on May 22, 2014 at 12:15:06 pm     #  

Beads are the medium. Is that kinda like a new form of bitcoin?

posted by Mariner on May 22, 2014 at 04:25:22 pm     #  

No. Beads have value.

posted by justread on May 22, 2014 at 08:58:22 pm     #   3 people liked this

The island is now smaller than 1.5 acres, and unlike other Lake Erie island is not rock. It's just gravel, clay, and sand that the federal government added over the years.

So this island, complete with official name and potential for a second Ohio-Michigan war, is actually the result of our Federal government dumping sand, gravel and other debris that was probably hauled all the way from Canada at absolutely ruinous rates? This is an artificial island and having been built it's now succumbing to erosion?

Don't we just have the greatest Federal Government on the face of the planet?

posted by madjack on May 23, 2014 at 10:47:36 am     #  

Not quite yet. They are perfecting absurd lunacy on a continuing basis.

posted by Mariner on May 23, 2014 at 11:01:09 am     #  

In some of the older history books of the area I had read about a Turtle Island that existed during the 19th century. Is this the same or a different one?

posted by ilovetoledo on May 23, 2014 at 02:37:11 pm     #  

Same.
It had a lighthouse on it and was nearly 7 acres in area.
The lighthouse was damaged significantly during the palm sunday tornado outbreak in the 60s.

posted by justread on May 23, 2014 at 02:46:17 pm     #  

Turtle Island has been there for hundreds of years - the original lighthouse was built there in 1866 and there was a British fort there in 1794.

posted by Mike21 on May 23, 2014 at 02:47:05 pm     #  

Thousands even.
The problem is that it isn't a true island but a remnant of a peninsula that once (before historical records but after the ice age) extended out from the current little cedar point marina. Kind of like Gard and Indian Islands, and Woodtick near it.
Not like West Sister, the Bass Islands, Rattlesnake, Kelley's and Pelee.

If not for man's interference, I believe it would be a shallow spot in the shallow end of the lake, rather than an "Island."

Wiki says the feds have dumped more than a million dollars into propping it up over time.

It is appropriate for a tent on a nice day. It is not appropriate for permanent development.

posted by justread on May 23, 2014 at 03:15:41 pm     #  

Marina? Not sure where that came from.
Little Cedar Point Peninsula. NOT Marina.

(Sorry, distracted by a boat problem here at Justread Marina.)

posted by justread on May 23, 2014 at 03:16:45 pm     #  

The plan for Turtle is to have the crane removed..may I mention, it's free for the scrapping. Also, we are assembling a crew to head out there on a few occasions for tree trimming and major weed trimming. In the near future, possibly by the end of this season or next season our plan is to have it cleaned up for camping. At the minimum we hope to have it set up to accommodate the winter ice fishing season. If it's just a section of sand eroding away, I imagine we will end up having plenty of fun along the way!

posted by dino on May 23, 2014 at 08:32:35 pm     #  

From Turtle's owner in response to any incorrect postings....."That post is filled with false information. The island was never 6+ acres. It was "connected" with a narrow strip of land to Woodtick pennisula back in the early 19th century and described differently when it was also once a penisular. If it was a pile of clay made by man it would have washed away long ago. The 1 acre circle was erected in the 1860s and filled with whatever to create land around the bedrock that the Lighthouse is on. "

posted by dino on May 23, 2014 at 08:44:22 pm     #  

Bring your "current owner" up to speed, or correct the various sources, at your leisure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_Island_(Lake_Erie)

http://www.lighthousefriends.com/light.asp?ID=271

posted by justread on May 23, 2014 at 08:57:36 pm     #  

OK, great...not going to get into a pissing match about the island...refer to original post...thanks.

posted by dino on May 23, 2014 at 10:04:59 pm     #  

Who is "Mr. Roarke"?

posted by dino on May 24, 2014 at 03:53:30 pm     #  

A boy friend of Cleopatra.

posted by Molsonator on May 24, 2014 at 05:07:18 pm     #  

"Welcome to Fantasy Island"

posted by Mike21 on May 24, 2014 at 06:22:10 pm     #  

http://youtu.be/1x_QbVDlLbI

posted by a_fan on May 24, 2014 at 08:57:48 pm     #  

I sent you a Private Message dino.

posted by Molsonator on May 26, 2014 at 09:14:21 am     #