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Toledo / Ohio utility costs

Curious if any of you out there have experience comparing our utility costs with others around the country or elsewhere? I have compared some and find the rates we pay for most utilities far above average and in some cases I would consider them outright robbery (water for example). We have a public utilities commission which should insure we are charged fair rates for these monopoly services, but it seems we are not getting justice here.

Would like to hear others opinions and possibly bind together to take a stand and correct this.

created by breeman on Jun 02, 2014 at 11:06:15 am     Other     Comments: 17

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Example is in California they pay $1.67 per CCF (Hundred Cubic Feet) compared to my latest bill which is $3.195 per CCF. Both cases include sewage but omit the fixed cost which is comparable. I don't see how a city / state which has to import their water 100's of miles from other states has a rate so much lower than ours which borders the largest collection of fresh water in the world!?!?

posted by breeman on Jun 02, 2014 at 11:11:53 am     #  

PUCO does not dictate rates set by the City of Toledo for water. Why do we pay so much for water? Ask your elected officials. Bottom line with regard to water is that it doesn't matter if you get a majority of citizens complaining about it - the system needs massive repairs and maintenance because of decades of neglect and political positions.

posted by MrsArcher on Jun 02, 2014 at 02:36:55 pm     #  

Wait till they spike all electricity production costs across the country, should make any increases in the last 20 years look miniscule by comparison. Everything uses electricity to operate and those costs WILL be passed on to all of us.

posted by MIJeff on Jun 02, 2014 at 03:10:44 pm     #  

Decades of democrat/union rule have screwed Detroit and are screwing Toledo the exact same way.

posted by Erin on Jun 02, 2014 at 05:25:13 pm     #   1 person liked this

Yes, everything bad in life is because of unions and democrats. I blame that fucker Obama for my broken iPhone glass last month.

posted by SensorG on Jun 02, 2014 at 07:46:05 pm     #   4 people liked this

Yeah.
And on top of that, I have a huge deductible on my health insurance now. Almost like I went from being insured to being uninsured.

posted by justread on Jun 02, 2014 at 07:54:45 pm     #  

If you want to keep the blinders on SensorG that's up to you.

posted by Erin on Jun 02, 2014 at 08:09:45 pm     #  

justread posted at 07:54:45 PM on Jun 02, 2014:

Yeah.
And on top of that, I have a huge deductible on my health insurance now. Almost like I went from being insured to being uninsured.

In contrast, I had the single smallest year over year increase in my insurance premiums ever, with no change in deductible.

posted by SensorG on Jun 02, 2014 at 09:26:04 pm     #   7 people liked this

I moved to Wood County from Toledo 4 years ago and the water bill shock almost killed me. I pay 3 times what I paid in Toledo, so quitcherbitchin. Plus, you compared California, the whole state, to Toledo. Do a break down and comparison of comparable-sized Cali cities and get back to us. At least we're not going to run out of water any time soon, whereas California....

posted by nana on Jun 02, 2014 at 11:06:33 pm     #   1 person liked this

Erin posted at 08:09:45 PM on Jun 02, 2014:

If you want to keep the blinders on SensorG that's up to you.

Your anger needs to be directed at the idea of single party rule regardless of who it is.

posted by JustaSooner on Jun 03, 2014 at 03:53:04 am     #   3 people liked this

SensorG posted at 09:26:04 PM on Jun 02, 2014:
justread posted at 07:54:45 PM on Jun 02, 2014:

Yeah.
And on top of that, I have a huge deductible on my health insurance now. Almost like I went from being insured to being uninsured.

In contrast, I had the single smallest year over year increase in my insurance premiums ever, with no change in deductible.

Excellent. I would expect no less from the fine people who employ you.

Unfortunately, your experience is not typical.

posted by justread on Jun 03, 2014 at 07:07:38 am     #  

I can appreciate that there is contention on topics like insurance and politicians, however let's keep this thread on topic...appreciated.

posted by breeman on Jun 03, 2014 at 07:45:19 am     #  

MrsArcher, curious do you know what elected officials would be appropriate to contact regarding this issue? I don't live in Toledo city, Sylvania Township here and we are buying our water from Toledo.

Nana, does Wood county where you live, buy their water from Toledo or do they have their own source?

posted by breeman on Jun 03, 2014 at 07:56:55 am     #  

Breeman,

Bowling Green has their own resource I believe. I also live in Wood Co. in Perrysburg Twp and get raped on water.

posted by lfrost2125 on Jun 03, 2014 at 08:25:33 am     #  

Actually, as I understand it, the Northwood area of Wood Cty gets their water from Oregon thru a deal with the Northwestern Water and Sewer District, so MY water does not really come from the Wood Cty intake on the river or go thru the processing plant there. We pay NWSD, tho.

posted by nana on Jun 03, 2014 at 10:07:39 am     #  

Out of respect for Breeman and the original topic at hand here are what my rates are down here in a land locked state...

[b]Natural Gas[/b]
$6.768 per dekatherm

[b]Electric[/b]
Summer Rate Plan
Off Peak (12AM-2PM & 7PM-12AM weekdays, and all weekends) = $0.05 per kWh
On Peak Low = $0.05 per kWh
On Peak Standard = $0.09 per kWh
On Peak High = $0.19 per kWh
On Peak Critical = $0.43 per kWh

Winter Rate Plan
0-600 kWh = $0.09 per kWh
500+ kWh = $0.05 per kWh

[b]Water Rates[/b]
$4.00 Base Fee
$2.00 per 1000 up to 5,000 gallons
$2.10 per 1000 for 5,001 to 15,000 gallons
$2.75 per 1000 for 15,001 to 20,000 gallons
$4.95 per 1000 over 20,000
Low Income Rate - $3.00 Base Fee and $1.50 per 1000 up to 5,000 gallons; normal rates after 5,000 gallons (must qualify based on Federal Guidelines)

[b]Sewer Rates[/b]
$5.00 Base Rate
$2.70 per 1,000 gallons of consumption
$5.00 Maintenance Fee
Low Income Rate - $2.50 discount on the Maintenance Fee

[b]Trash - Weekly polycart pickup [/b]
Regular Rate: Residential - $14.00 Commercial - $19.64
Low Income Rate: Residential - $11.50 Commercial - N/A (must qualify based on Federal Guidelines)

[b]Recycling - Weekly polycart pickup[/b]
Residential - $3.00
Low Income Rate - $2.40

[b]Oklahoma Solid Waste Management Act (OSWMA)[/b]
Residential - $.20
Commercial - $.20

[b]Capital Improvement Charge (CIC)[/b]
Residential - $2.00
Commercial - 60% of sewer $ figure

posted by JustaSooner on Jun 03, 2014 at 02:02:20 pm     #  

MrsArcher, curious do you know what elected officials would be appropriate to contact regarding this issue? I don't live in Toledo city, Sylvania Township here and we are buying our water from Toledo.

If you pay the City of Toledo for your water, you would complain to City of Toledo elected officials and Lucas County Commissioners because they are the ones that set the water rates that you pay.

Now mind you, for Toledo you are a nonvoting nuisance, not a constituent. For Lucas County, Carol Contrada is up for election but seriously, this is a nothing issue. The cost of water is what it is. You may be able to get it to stop going up, but 1) that will only be to our detriment in the long term because capital stuff needs to be done and has been put off for decades and 2) there is no way you will get the rates to drop.

Quite honestly, you are lucky the rates are where they are at. Toledo would like a lot more ... like making you be part of the City so they can tax your income too.

posted by MrsArcher on Jun 03, 2014 at 07:41:27 pm     #   1 person liked this