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CA court strikes down teacher tenure & seniority system

Hopefully this decision survives appeal and spreads like a wild fire to other states like Ohio:

"The tenure and seniority system that has long protected California public school teachers, even ineffective ones, was struck down Tuesday in a court decision that could change hiring and firing policies nationwide.

Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Rolf M. Treu said that the laws governing job security were unconstitutional because they harmed predominantly low-income, minority students by allowing incompetent instructors to remain in the classroom."

created by MrsPhoenix on Jun 11, 2014 at 07:37:24 am     Comments: 4

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You mean they would have to actually maintain their performance to keep their jobs? Wow, what a concept, they still have their union to back them up from abuse from administrators though.

posted by MIJeff on Jun 11, 2014 at 10:31:17 am     #  

From what I have read, teachers in CA could get tenure in just 2 years. I am staunchly pro-union, but a teacher with just two years experience still has a lot to learn. It sounds like the CA teachers' union should have taken a page from the Toledo plan, which requires peer review and helps to weed out bad teachers.

I am afraid that the baby has been thrown out with the bath water in this case.

They could end up like Michigan:

posted by Anniecski on Jun 11, 2014 at 10:37:37 am     #  

I didn't realize that tenure protection was imbedded in some state laws; I think/thought Ohio's was contract based not law based, but maybe I'm wrong.

What this will do is make unions re-think their huge upward slope of compensation where the longest serving teachers sometimes get twice what new teachers are getting.

posted by MsArcher on Jun 11, 2014 at 11:15:47 am     #  

Tenure doesn't mean you 'can't be fired', it generally means that the district must have cause (you know, evidence) to fire a teacher. I agree that two years is probably too short a period of time to determine whether a teacher should have those protections. In the bigger picture, tenure, along with other benefits like health insurance, are part of the whole compensation package for teachers, who work long hours during the academic year for generally very little pay. Reducing these benefits will likely further reduce the supply of young teachers (schools of education are already seeing fewer applicants) over time, increasing the demand for those teachers who do stay in the system, an increasing the costs for districts and the state.

posted by swampprof on Jun 13, 2014 at 08:06:13 am     #   2 people liked this