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Golf Carts on Bike Paths -- Let's Do It

What if we allowed electric golf carts to use our paved bike trails throughout the city? Some places were designed with golf cart transportation in mind -- I know Toledo was NOT -- but we have an opportunity to make some neighborhoods more senior-friendly as we continue to fund the bike paths.

It would be great to hop on a trail to cruise to the bank or a grocery store. Or to take little Fluffy to the park.

Peachtree City, Georgia, has paths and a decal/license system and a whole lifestyle built around that kind of accessibility.

http://www.peachtree-city.org/index.aspx?NID=216

created by viola on Jun 21, 2014 at 08:44:38 am     Comments: 19

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I would say no for a lot of reasons, including the need to drive on the roads to get to a path, teenagers driving their grandparent's carts and the need for bike riders to get of the way of the faster carts.

posted by OldTimer on Jun 21, 2014 at 10:13:29 am     #  

I like it!

posted by shamrock44 on Jun 21, 2014 at 10:31:13 am     #  

Electric golf carts are not licensed for street use. Is there a law that bans that? Regardless, those carts have no seat belts. I recall many years ago two men were killed on Corey Road near the Sylvania C.C. during a collision.

posted by flinty on Jun 21, 2014 at 10:32:50 am     #  

I think it depends on the local laws. I've driven golf cars along regular cars on South Bass Island and in Lakeside,Ohio.

posted by SensorG on Jun 21, 2014 at 11:34:07 am     #  

This guy loves the idea....

posted by justareviewer on Jun 21, 2014 at 12:14:01 pm     #  

Golf carts exist on regular roads in Key Biscayne, Florida (and other communities in Florida).

It seems to only be "safer" when golf carts are limited to a self-contained community (i.e. an island or a specific subdivision) rather than taking 'em out--even on a bike path--in an old established city.

posted by oldhometown on Jun 21, 2014 at 04:23:14 pm     #  

I don't see this working around here. There is a lot of traffic on the trails in some areas, and there can be bottlenecks at times. A lot of the users wear earpieces listening to music, and they don't always hear you when you announce that you are approaching them to pass them. Parts of the Wabash Cannonball Trail are also used by horses, so in that section you would be throwing golf carts into the mix that includes bikers, joggers, walkers, rollerbladers, and horses. I've seen horses spooked on that section by cyclists; I can't imagine how they'd react to golf carts.

I guess this is a long way of saying trail etiquette around here isn't very good. As long as that is the case golf carts on the trails are a bad idea.

posted by tolbuck on Jun 21, 2014 at 04:40:18 pm     #  

And you'd have no insurance coverage using your golf cart off of your residence premises.

posted by Foodie on Jun 21, 2014 at 04:49:58 pm     #  

If, say, the Metroparks allowed golf carts on the bike trails they maintain, how would that affect their insurance rates? Would they need another levy to cover the costs?

posted by tolbuck on Jun 21, 2014 at 05:23:09 pm     #  

Viola is suggesting their use on the inner city bike paths only. No one is going to take the Wabash Trail to get to the grocery. I don't know what the inner/intercity path network is like, just how it connects to services, but if you allow golf carts, I think you would have to allow the motorized handicapped carts as well and, really, aren't the bike paths for getting AWAY from using motors? It's a cool idea in theory and could be very helpful to some folks. We need a practicality study! :)

posted by nana on Jun 22, 2014 at 09:26:41 am     #  

posted by shamrock44 on Jun 22, 2014 at 11:41:17 pm     #  

I can transport my golf cart to a trail head the same way you would take it to the golf course; on a pickup or trailer. I have an insurance policy on the cart. My wife being handicapped would love to explore the trails.

>aren't the bike paths for getting AWAY from using motors<
Handicapped citizens DEPEND on motors.

posted by Trilby on Jun 23, 2014 at 12:28:12 am     #  

And I thought bike paths were for, uh well, bikes.

posted by MIJeff on Jun 23, 2014 at 01:10:42 am     #  

This is a joke, right? There's no way you're serious. Are you trolling?

posted by endcycle on Jun 23, 2014 at 08:47:57 am     #  

Trilby posted at 12:28:12 AM on Jun 23, 2014:

I can transport my golf cart to a trail head the same way you would take it to the golf course; on a pickup or trailer. I have an insurance policy on the cart. My wife being handicapped would love to explore the trails.

>aren't the bike paths for getting AWAY from using motors<
Handicapped citizens DEPEND on motors.

Good for you Trilby - you've handled this in the proper manner. I hope your wife is able to do the trail exploration with you.

posted by Foodie on Jun 23, 2014 at 09:21:10 am     #  

Trilby posted at 12:28:12 AM on Jun 23, 2014:

I can transport my golf cart to a trail head the same way you would take it to the golf course; on a pickup or trailer. I have an insurance policy on the cart. My wife being handicapped would love to explore the trails.

>aren't the bike paths for getting AWAY from using motors<
Handicapped citizens DEPEND on motors.

I understand that, I have a brother in law who recently got his wheelchair equipped with a motor-assist due to increasing weakness from post-polio syndrome. Viola was stating that people could use the innercity paths for getting groceries and stuff and the thread degenerated from there into encompasing ALL bikepaths. I was just pointing out who else might find the idea useful. So now that we have someone intimately involved here, If your wife had access to the innercity bike paths, would she use them to go grocery shopping? Would she feel safe? Genuinely interested and I will ask my bro-in-law, too. :)

posted by nana on Jun 23, 2014 at 09:32:37 am     #  

If your wife had access to the innercity bike paths, would she use them to go grocery shopping?
No! Just the trail that crosses Holland-Sylvania near Stranahan school and similar trails on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon.

posted by Trilby on Jun 24, 2014 at 08:01:04 am     #  

In order for this to happen we first need more bike courses:) I was in Ann Arbor a couple days ago and would love to have the bike lanes they have, a lot of major streets in A2 have a dedicated bike lane.

AFAIK, you can't operate a golf cart on a city street or sidewalk and I know of no grocery stores that are right off a bike course.

If people want to use the trials and are disabled, they can on a motorized wheelchair or amigo carts. I have seen those on the Ottawa park paved bike trails before and on the UT-Wildwood trail.

The big concern for me is pedestrians getting out of the way. The pedistrians on the rails to trails between UT and King road seem to be pretty respectful and stay on the correct side but it is lined. I have a big problem with pedestrians on the trail through Ottawa Park that isn't lined. Everytime I ride it, there seems to be at least three groups of people or just a couple that will insist on walking the entire width of the trial instead of staying over to the right and when I shout "on your left" half the time they don't get over.

posted by classylady on Jun 25, 2014 at 12:28:12 pm     #  

Get an air horn for you bike, they might still not get out of the way, but they should move faster to empty that load out of their pants.

posted by MIJeff on Jun 25, 2014 at 12:32:51 pm     #