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Garage sale parking

Now that garage sale season has started, how do you handle people parking on your lawn. I see many homes that put up fences or others things to stop people from pulling up on their lawn.

I know so many feet belongs to the city, but would this allow for people to park wherever they choose? A search thru city codes turned up nothing specific to that.

Just curious for future reference.

created by lynn on Jul 03, 2014 at 09:41:58 am     Comments: 19

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The city doesn't own your front lawn, it has a right of way for road purposes (as do utility companies sometimes). That doesn't mean people can park on your lawn and you can restrict the access as long as you are not obstructing sight-lines, meaning people can see to pull out in to traffic.

posted by MrsArcher on Jul 03, 2014 at 09:54:52 am     #  

Four or five large hollow cement blocks (depending on your front footage) placed about 10 feet apart near the street will keep people from parking on your yard and you can store them when you don't need them.

posted by Mike21 on Jul 03, 2014 at 10:39:04 am     #  

People park on other peoples lawns? What neighborhood do you live in?

posted by toledolen_ on Jul 03, 2014 at 10:54:47 am     #   2 people liked this

toledolen- Drive down Commonwealth, the north side of Eleanor. People are in all sorts of crazy ways. lol

posted by stooks on Jul 03, 2014 at 11:04:22 am     #   1 person liked this

I'm in the Laskey/Secor area. For years every time my ex-neighbor had large family parties I'd have 2 or 3 cars parked on my lawn along side the street. No curbs here so it was easy just to drive up the lawn. I finally start asking nicely for them to move. My neighbor quit speaking because of it, but it solved that problem.

Thanks for the info regarding garage sales. Always good to be prepared.

posted by lynn on Jul 03, 2014 at 11:52:28 am     #   1 person liked this

This is just mind boggling to me. We've become a society that thinks anything and everything "they" want to do is ok and acceptable. And, if it isn't, then the rest of us who were actually raised to be respectful of others and their property are somehow the bad guys.

lynn: I'd count it as a blessing that your idiot neighbor ceased speaking with you because you dared to ask that their guests not park on your lawn.

posted by Foodie on Jul 03, 2014 at 01:08:04 pm     #  

Mind boggling to me as well.

posted by upso on Jul 03, 2014 at 01:15:41 pm     #  

I am in the same area, Lynn, and this is a constant source of irritation. Drunks and/or texters frequently tear up my lawn with crazy turns (I am on a corner), and if a neighbor has a garage sale, my spacious greenery attracts cars like hungry zombies to family members of Rick Grimes.

Last year a neighbor was getting a new driveway, and the contractor parked his vehicles and equipment on my lawn for three days. I was pissed, and I confronted the dude, and he shrugged his shoulders and claimed he had the right to do so because he was parked on the easement.

Fortunately my neighbor stepped in, apologized for the contractor, and smoothed things out. I was ready to go all Tony Soprano on the arrogant jackass.

The part that irritated me the most was that there were several other places he could have chosen to park that were not properties owned by an OCD lawn freak like me. I spend 10-15 hours a week on my landscaping in summer, and this f***er tore the bejeezus out of my nicely manicured lawn:

Here is a sample of the lawn carnage:

lawn damage

posted by historymike on Jul 03, 2014 at 01:40:58 pm     #  

Oh, and to answer the question:

I used to have decorative boulders spaced about every 10 feet to discourage parkers, but the drunks caused more damage by hitting and dragging the boulders 10-15 feet than when there was open space.

One time an idiot hit a boulder about the size of a good-sized watermelon and left a gouged valley about 20 feet long and the better part of a foot deep. Without the boulder I would have ended up with (at most) a tire track.

I am thinking of getting white posts with white chain to run along the street. Something like this:

If I went with the hard plastic I would minimize the expense after the inevitable drunk-smashing.

posted by historymike on Jul 03, 2014 at 01:47:05 pm     #  

That's a nice bob cat you have there. Shame if something happened to it...

posted by SensorG on Jul 03, 2014 at 01:47:50 pm     #   10 people liked this

Loving all the great ideas here, but allow me to play devil's advocate for a sec, if you will.

I had similar issues when I lived in Michigan at the end of a private drive that had a turnaround. In addition to my lawn getting torn up by party-parkers, donut-dorks, racing-reprobates and the like, I also had to deal with these dill weeds bashing my mailbox and post.

I decided I would put an end to it once and for all, and started discussing with some friends what my plans were. First of all, I was going to do the Big Rocks thing along my property at the turnaround. And then I was going to mount my mailbox to a big pipe that was filled with concrete. Figured that would send a painful message to whoever decided to wield the bat next time around.

Come to find out, if anyone got injured by my protective measures, EVEN IF THEY WERE VANDALIZING OR DAMAGING MY PROPERTY, I would be held liable.

So I didn't do that.

Ultimately, my solution was to mount a fake camera with a sign pointing at the mailbox, sit at my turnaround with a camera and other such wastes of my time until that generation of kids grew up and moved away, and my reputation as being that "Scary woman at the end of the street. Don't piss her off, man." was totally solid.

After all that work -- decades of it -- I moved to Toledo. I don't have decades left to do all that again. Mess with my stuff and I will make you wish you hadn't been so stupid. Just sayin'...

posted by gamegrrl on Jul 03, 2014 at 06:01:59 pm     #   1 person liked this

It's just a shame that people don't respect the property of another person. My parents taught their kids to show respect for neighbors and others, especially the elderly. This stuck with me all my years.

But sometimes it's hard to bite my tongue and walk away!
There are kids who drive around the lawns every summer, and sometimes leave deep ruts for the owner to fix. Not much you can do. Never had a situation like historymike and hope never will. Not easy to see hard work destroyed.

Happy Fourth, enjoy this nice day!

posted by lynn on Jul 04, 2014 at 12:04:12 pm     #   1 person liked this

We don't really have that problem as there is a 4' deep ditch in front of our yard, that ditch will eat your car, people still park along it, but they never make it into our yard thank god.

posted by MIJeff on Jul 04, 2014 at 01:28:26 pm     #  

MIJeff posted at 01:28:26 PM on Jul 04, 2014:

We don't really have that problem as there is a 4' deep ditch in front of our yard, that ditch will eat your car, people still park along it, but they never make it into our yard thank god.

Brilliant! I shall commence to building a moat.

posted by historymike on Jul 04, 2014 at 03:10:23 pm     #  

historymike posted at 03:10:23 PM on Jul 04, 2014:
MIJeff posted at 01:28:26 PM on Jul 04, 2014:

We don't really have that problem as there is a 4' deep ditch in front of our yard, that ditch will eat your car, people still park along it, but they never make it into our yard thank god.

Brilliant! I shall commence to building a moat.

And fill it with man eating 'gators & crocs. Well, at least in the summer.

posted by Foodie on Jul 05, 2014 at 05:16:33 am     #  

...and a drawbridge, got to have a drawbridge!

posted by breeman on Jul 05, 2014 at 07:12:38 am     #  

I like the system where if you are having the garage sale, people park on your lawn. If you are not having the garage sale, you can yellow tape. They park where there's no tape.

If you are having the garage sale, no yellow tape for you.

posted by justread on Jul 06, 2014 at 01:48:52 pm     #   1 person liked this

Pertaining to puting a fence along a city street, I called the Toledo Street Dept. and they stated it must be at least 25 feet from the center of the street.

posted by flinty on Jul 07, 2014 at 11:59:47 am     #  

Which is the easement, wonder if that pertains to temporary fencing as well? Like that white plastic fencing with posts and chains all in white plastic.

posted by MIJeff on Jul 07, 2014 at 12:21:33 pm     #