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Drone over Fifth Third field?

I've observed a drone flying over the Mud Hen games the past few nights. Anyone know anything about this?

created by Brewster on Jul 20, 2014 at 10:10:59 pm     Comments: 28

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There is a Facebook page called Exploring Northwest Ohio from the Sky. He uses a quadcopter to take the pics. Could that be it maybe?

posted by dell_diva on Jul 20, 2014 at 10:24:38 pm     #  

YouTube - Exploring Northwest Ohio from the Sky!

From the above YouTube link:

I enjoy photography and things that fly, model aircraft have been a long-time hobby and now I've found a fun way to combine the two with a quadcopter.

I created this youtube channel to house the videos from the quadcopter, I mainly am interested in cool weather events and seeing other unique natural phenomena from a unique viewpoint. I will update this channel with videos as I get them so check back often!

This is the quadcopter I fly, it is a DJI Phantom Vision Plus, this is a link to it on Amazon.com: http://amzn.to/1mGwD0M

This is a hobby and I will not fly in restricted FAA airspace, over crowds of people or unauthorized personal property nor will I let the aircraft go out of my sight and I will follow the rules of the AMA of which I am a member.

YouTube video by Exploring Northwest Ohio from the Sky! - Toledo Edison Acme Power Plant Stack Implosion Aerial View July 16 2014

This video was filmed on site with permission from the demolition company.

posted by jr on Jul 20, 2014 at 10:40:40 pm     #  

When a quadcopter flies too close to a crowd, is the device fair game?

After the LA Kings won the Stanley Cup, celebrating fans knocked a low-flying quadcopter out of the sky.

Video here:
http://instagram.com/p/pO0jjnkrlC/

posted by jr on Jul 20, 2014 at 10:54:36 pm     #  

We saw it Saturday at the Hens day game. It kept its distance frm the ballpark, mainly staying near the Secor and Fiberglass Tower.

posted by JohnnyMac on Jul 21, 2014 at 09:05:42 am     #  

Imagine they could use this to catch Ferris Bueller playing hooky at Wrigley.

posted by BulldogBuckeye on Jul 21, 2014 at 10:58:47 am     #  

I heard it was a russian drone.

posted by a_fan on Jul 21, 2014 at 08:56:08 pm     #  

Chinese drone from across the river.

posted by MIJeff on Jul 21, 2014 at 10:50:04 pm     #  

Chinese drone from across the river.

! posted by MIJeff on Jul 21, 2014 at 10:50:04 pm # +

That's what I thought. LOL!

posted by paulhem on Jul 22, 2014 at 12:56:36 pm     #  

The UAV is mine. I am a photographer moving back to the area capturing local attractions and landmarks. I am not the individual linked above. Here is the video I shot at Fifth Third Field on Saturday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sUraIX49YA&feature=youtu.be

posted by JohnDiz on Jul 23, 2014 at 01:42:19 pm     #   2 people liked this

fascinating stuff, John. You're a local pioneer, of sorts, by incorporating drone photography with social media. Enjoy the limelight....because my guess is that every swingin Richard in the city will be taking pics with a drone within 5 yrs.

posted by BulldogBuckeye on Jul 23, 2014 at 02:57:07 pm     #  

Imagine how a sky full of drones will improve the quality of life.

posted by justread on Jul 23, 2014 at 02:59:40 pm     #  

will they have to make special lanes for them like bikes? thats assuming we have flying cars by then.

posted by MIJeff on Jul 23, 2014 at 03:05:10 pm     #  

Are you running with FPV? What's your setup?

posted by a_fan on Jul 23, 2014 at 06:30:38 pm     #  

That day I used my Phantom 2 Vision Plus. Yes, it has full 30fps FPV to my iPhone attached to the transmitter.

posted by JohnDiz on Jul 23, 2014 at 08:24:44 pm     #   1 person liked this

Had an idiot who was flying a drone recklessly above the crowd at the Indian festival tonight until it crashed into the stage. Only a matter of time until someone is killed by these reckless operators who fly them over crowds.

posted by toledoramblingman on Aug 10, 2014 at 08:51:08 pm     #  

Since property owners also own the air rights (to a certain height) above their property, could drone operators be charged with trespassing? Since I have the right to cut branches from a neighbor's tree that overhang on my property, do I have the right to "remove" a drone that violates my airspace?

posted by Mike21 on Aug 10, 2014 at 09:25:23 pm     #   1 person liked this

Did someone apprehend the perp?

posted by a_fan on Aug 11, 2014 at 02:07:57 pm     #  

First, a UAV operator should be experienced before considering operating near other people. Second, he/she should get with authorities at any event to make sure all is ok. I always check in with organizers and police first. Finally, anyone who violates obvious safety issues by flying recklessly should be absolutely held accountable. The UAV I fly weighs 2/3 lbs and has soft plastic propellers that, while it could cause injury if recklessly operated, would likely not cause death.

As for private yards, yes there court rulings on the matter of airspace. It is generally regarded that a person "owns" the airspace above their property to a reasonable hight - somewhere between 80 and 400 feet. Otherwise, you would not be able to even build a shed because it may intrude on 10 feet of airspace. Also, privacy laws are already on the books for much of these concerns. However, with UAV's, new questions are being asked.

If by "remove" a drone from your airspace you mean shoot it down, you would likely be arrested for illegally discharging a weapon (depending on local laws) and destruction of property. It is best to try to locate the UAV operator and call the police and let them handle it.

That said, the overwhelming reaction I get from people is positive. They ask questions, gather around the equipment and want to see if they can have the photos or video. Lots of potential for responsible UAV operators to do good here.

posted by JohnDiz on Aug 11, 2014 at 06:24:53 pm     #  

With a lot of these yahoos they fly so low to get the shot I bet a common garden hose would take them out.

posted by MIJeff on Aug 11, 2014 at 06:31:58 pm     #  

Slingshot would be more sporting anyway. :)
Just kidding. Great post from that perspective. I'm not bothered by a guy and his drone. I'm worrying about a fad or proliferation. That would suck.

posted by justread on Aug 11, 2014 at 06:35:09 pm     #  

Again, the best way to deal with concerns is to invite people to participate. While in Toledo, I was able to get some really great views of things like the fireworks at a Mudhens Game, the truck that crashed into the original Tony Packos and awesome volunteers during the water crisis. Please feel free to check it out:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEs0L4PwxYa3TUXcmEIkemA

posted by JohnDiz on Aug 11, 2014 at 06:40:33 pm     #  

I have been working with several different Phantom models since January. One is identical to Mr. Diz's.

The problem with these RTF (ready to fly) devices are the cameras. They are usually either GoPros or, in the case of the DJI Phantom 2 Vision models - GoPro wanna-be. That means they are great at close- in action shots. The Go Pro was designed by a surfer who attached the prototypes to his surfboard so one could see the wave curl while he was in a trough. http://www.surfingmagazine.com/video/best-gopro-clip-ever/

From the video one can see that they are designed for really close-in shots.

When one either mounts them on an remote controlled quadcopter or hex or octocopter, and try to catch some distant activity, then the aircraft has to get fairly close to the subject. And that's where the problems start. One of these quadcopters was being used to capture video of the end of a triathlon and the radio control was allegedly jammed. The same aircraft alledgedly fell and hit a triathlete on her head and knocked her down. http://m.runnersworld.com/general-interest/triathlete-hit-in-head-by-drone?page=single

For camera hobby or vacation fun, they are great. However, major camera modifications have to be made in order to make these useful for news.

These small quadcopters need much better cameras with zoom, etc. Right now, there are no video cameras available that are light enough for the smaller drones to be able to lift or fly for any reasonable time. I have looked at a Sony digital camera. However, it is heavy and only does stills.

Right now, I am testing 4 different drones.

Aircraft - weight, lift, etc. It gets frustrating...

Still working on it though. I had one modified GoPro with a flat lense and am getting another. - probably the right direction...

Drones that can do what I want them to do cost around 4 to 10 grand. Motion picture studios use them .

posted by paulhem on Aug 14, 2014 at 09:29:48 am     #  

JohnDiz - Did you do the aerial shots for the locally produced Project Greenlight short film, "Cosmic Roofies"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGmzVwtZ5K8

posted by gamegrrl on Aug 14, 2014 at 09:42:01 am     #  

Did you see this?
http://www.wimp.com/reduceshake/

posted by MIJeff on Aug 14, 2014 at 01:26:30 pm     #  

Like those links.

The alien video people reminded me what the NY media people thought of #EmptyGlassCity news conferences.

Did anyone else feel like digging a hole and crawling into it while watching one of our "officials" chomp and tongue her gum?

That was embarrassing for the world to see.

posted by paulhem on Aug 14, 2014 at 04:23:47 pm     #   1 person liked this

Gamegrrl - yes, I provided the aerial shots for that short. Loved doing it!

posted by JohnDiz on Aug 16, 2014 at 01:15:50 am     #  

Cool. I was your hookup. Glad it worked out!

posted by gamegrrl on Aug 16, 2014 at 09:36:35 am     #  

my hookup huh? Well thanks then! :-)

posted by JohnDiz on Aug 16, 2014 at 11:23:12 am     #