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Robin Williams :(

So sad. Why can't they ever be as happy as they make everyone else?

created by nana on Aug 11, 2014 at 08:20:45 pm     Entertainment     Comments: 62

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That is the one tragic thing about some of the best comics, they have tremendous demons pulling at them constantly. It has been well known the struggles he's had in the past with addiction and depression. While tremendously sad, at least he isn't suffering anymore.

posted by JustaSooner on Aug 11, 2014 at 08:25:03 pm     #   7 people liked this

I know he was a huge celebrity, but does his suicide deserve to be the top story on all three networks right now? With all the shit happening in the world today, I don't think so. Maybe the second story, but not the top story. I loved the guy and his movies, too, but the second story on all three network news stations was about flooding emergencies that killed people in the country.

posted by bikerdude on Aug 12, 2014 at 06:39:51 pm     #   2 people liked this

Suicide is a very selfish act. While addictions and depression are terrible things, they are both treatable diseases. He had both the time and the money to seek the best treatment in the world - instead he chose the easy way out. (Yes. I know he had sought treatment in the past and quite recently too, but he obviously didn't stay with it long enough.) While he is no longer suffering, he has induced incredible and unnecessary pain on his wife, kids, family and all those who loved him. For the rest of their lives they will be wondering if there is something they could have done to prevent his suicide.

posted by Mike21 on Aug 12, 2014 at 07:16:41 pm     #   2 people liked this

I agree with Mike21. Depression is a horrible disease, but it is treatable. I've always believed suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem / temporary problems. It leaves nothing but scars on loved ones.

posted by jimavolt on Aug 12, 2014 at 07:59:18 pm     #   2 people liked this

"... does his suicide deserve to be the top story on all three networks right now? With all the shit happening in the world today ..."

That must be one of those TV things because below are the top 5 stories on my major networks as of this evening, and a Robin Williams-related story appears only once. I don't understand why people get their news from a television set if it's not the type of news that interests them.

http://techmeme.com

  • Ex-Siri engineers promise consumer-friendly digital assistant “Viv” that can teach itself
  • Apple's Diversity Report: 70 percent Male, 55 percent White in U.S.
  • Apple in talks with Mount Sinai, the Cleveland Clinic, Johns Hopkins, and Allscripts about its HealthKit service
  • Microsoft will offer a $499 Call of Duty Xbox One bundle with 1TB of storage, but no Kinect
  • Uber says Lyft cancelled 12.9K Uber rides, and Lyft investors pressured Uber to buy Lyft


http://mediagazer.com

  • Times Journalist Injured in Iraqi Kurd Helicopter Crash
  • BuzzFeed deleted over 4K staff posts in late April, based on metrics in author profiles
  • As the Internet narrows the difference between media and software distribution, technology VCs value BuzzFeed like a tech company
  • The Long Fall of Philly Newspapers
  • Journalists Face Tear Gas, Police Threats While Covering Protests Against Killing Of Michael Brown


https://news.ycombinator.com

  • Law Students Fend Off a Patent Troll
  • Errata prompt Intel to disable TSX in Haswell, early Broadwell CPUs
  • 2014 Fields Medals announced
  • Something is amiss with the Interwebs: BGP is a flapping
  • Mono 3.6.0 is out


Circa mobile app:

  • Non-lethal rounds fired on protesters in Ferguson, Missouri
  • SF mayor hints city may begin mandatory water rationing
  • 23andMe uses data from DNA kits for new biotech research
  • ACLU, laywer: Chelsea Manning yet to receive hormone therapy
  • Tonight's Perseid meteor shower spectacle will be tempered by supermoon


http://www.toledoblade.com/rss/local

  • Heavy rains pound region
  • Council cracks down on house scrappers
  • Body pulled from Springfield Twp. lake
  • Mayor pleads for U.S., state help
  • Architect dies following Maumee crash


NYT Now mobile app

  • After Specter of Coup, Iraqi Leader Seems to Back Off
  • Police Silent Amid Loud Protests in Missouri
  • After Shooting, Young Black Men Protest Their Depiction
  • German Artists Say They Put White Flags on [Brooklyn] Bridge
  • Russia Aid Is Sent to Ukraine Amid NATO Fears


https://news.layervault.com

  • You Spoke, We Listened: Introducing the LayerVault Starter Plan
  • How Foursquare Onboards New Users
  • Re: I'm not happy
  • How much does it cost to make an app?
  • Ask DN: What is a "Product Designer"?


http://qz.com/feed

  • Suicides are surprisingly high among middle-aged men in the US
  • The “Candy Crush” saga is falling apart—and investors are running away
  • Apple’s numbers prove again that Silicon Valley is run by white and Asian men
  • Tesla shares just hit an all-time high and it has nothing to do with cars
  • These are the international airlines that still don’t have in-flight Wi-Fi


http://pandodaily.com.feedsportal.com/c/35141/f/650422/index.rss

  • Yo goes pro
  • My Big Break: How Ken Lerer helped Buzzfeed’s Jonah Peretti turn viral prankery into an $850M business
  • As Uber and Lyft sling mud, the campaign to become president of ridesharing is getting ugly
  • My Big Break: New Relic’s Lew Cirne on how he raised his first $35k, and thought it would last forever
  • Despite media reports, “rebel” plaintiff tells Pando he “never left” the Techtopus wage-fixing suit


And Good Will Hunting is my favorite Robin Williams movie.

posted by jr on Aug 12, 2014 at 08:17:35 pm     #  

@jr:

"And Good Will Hunting is my favorite Robin Williams movie."

Excellent movie.

posted by Foodie on Aug 12, 2014 at 08:34:32 pm     #  

Only 1 story there that could be related to Robin Williams, about suicide. The TV big 3 media are always a current "what is bleeding" affair, well so is CNN and FOX as well, if it bleeds it leads or whatever is the hot topic of the hour / day / week / month. I dont mind updates on a story but when they cover the same thing ad nauseum until you just have to turn the channel or turn off the tv its pretty sad. CNN's coverage of ever screw and bolt on the Malaysian airliner that went missing is just one example, the OJ slow chase was another.
I just think when ever the big tv media goes wall to wall coverage on something it just demeans the subject of their coverage.

posted by MIJeff on Aug 12, 2014 at 08:45:22 pm     #  

I think we may know, as time goes by, what Robin Williams was going through. I think the fact he was in and out of rehab for drug and alcohol addiction may have just taken its toll. He also was having some financial problems. So sad and devastating, especially to his family and other loved ones he left behind.

posted by renegade on Aug 12, 2014 at 09:59:43 pm     #  

Suicide is a decision made out of desperation, hopelessness, isolation and loneliness. The black hole that is clinical depression is all-consuming. Feeling like a burden to loved ones, feeling like there is no way out, feeling trapped and feeling isolated are all common among people who suffer from depression.

People who say that suicide is selfish always reference the survivors. It's selfish to leave children, spouses and other family members behind, so they say. They're not thinking about the survivors, or so they would have us believe. What they don't know is that those very loved ones are the reason many people hang on for just one more day. They do think about the survivors, probably up until the very last moment in many cases. But the soul-crushing depression that envelops them leaves them feeling like there is no alternative. Like the only way to get out is to opt out. And that is a devastating thought to endure.

Until you've stared down that level of depression, until you've lost your soul to a sea of emptiness and darkness... you don't get to make those judgments. You might not understand it, and you are certainly entitled to your own feelings, but making those judgments and spreading that kind of negativity won't help the next person. In fact, it will only hurt others."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/katie-hurley/theres-nothing-selfish-about-suicide_b_5672519.html

posted by Ace_Face on Aug 12, 2014 at 10:06:28 pm     #   12 people liked this

What Ace_Face said.

And Robin Williams wasn't dealing with simple depression. He was bi-polar.

posted by gamegrrl on Aug 12, 2014 at 10:13:52 pm     #   2 people liked this

Does anyone remember the Robin Williams movie "What dreams may come"? It was a drama from the 1990s dealing with the afterlife.

His character dies and he goes to heaven. His wife later commits suicide, and he tries to find her, but can't because she is in hell. So he goes on this mission to get her out. I don't think it did very well at the box office. Actually, it was very depressing to watch.

posted by bikerdude on Aug 12, 2014 at 11:18:29 pm     #   1 person liked this

I've seen more people mention "What Dreams May Come" as one of their favorite movies, including The Hub, than I have "The World According to Garp", which is one of mine. I was old enough to have read the book before I saw the movie and was totally amazed at Williams in it. I loved him in 'Popeye', but it wasn't much of a stretch for him after Mork, then I saw Garp and knew he was a star.

posted by nana on Aug 13, 2014 at 07:41:02 am     #  

Treatments for depression do not always work. This is one of those situations where you shouldn't judge someone if you haven't walked a mile in their shoes. It's easy to say suicide is selfish (as it can be) but if someone is so deep into hopeless despair that death seems the best solution, they certainly deserve compassion as well.

As to the newsworthiness of Robin William's death, it is causing many people to become aware that 1 in every 10 Americans will suffer the disease (and it is a disease as much as any other infirmity). That is a very good thing. Anything that promotes understanding and prompts people to get help is a good thing.

posted by hippiechick on Aug 13, 2014 at 01:34:03 pm     #   1 person liked this

I'm amazed at how many people rationalize, justify and even condone Robin William's suicide... He faced demons and depression... Maybe thinking about his loved ones delayed his cowardly act... Don't judge him unless you've been there... Maybe suicide was the best solution. We all face demons and have our own crosses to bear. The vast majority of people face it, deal with it and keep on living. Mass murderers and school shooters who ultimately committed suicide also faced demons and depression. Not many people rationalize, justify, condone their actions or feel compassion for them. Why not - because Robin Williams was well known and well liked and the others weren't? I'm not suggesting his act was as heinous as the other's, but they all took the easy, cowardly way out and created incredible, unnecessary pain and unanswered questions for many people left behind.

posted by Mike21 on Aug 13, 2014 at 03:08:49 pm     #   1 person liked this

As a person who suffers from depression and knows the myriad ways it can fuck up your thoughts, I can tell you that being a coward is the last thing a depressed person thinks he is.

Suicide is far from the easy way out. A depressed person (particularly one with money or health problems) sees himself as a burden to his family and friends. By eliminating himself, he eliminates their burden -- and yes, death is just as scary to the depressed person as it is to the healthy person.

It's difficult to unload to a therapist because the act of talking about it makes you feel as though it will only feed the beast, and as that beast is fed, it looms larger and larger. Instead, you become quieter, not wanting to wake it or even make eye contact with it. You keep the fact of its existence to yourself because looking it in the face means you give it the power to devour you whole.

Depression is called mental illness for a reason. It takes your logical thought processes and throws them out the window. It takes your most basic instinct -- preservation of your life -- and turns it against you.

I assume you wouldn't call someone a failure for not surviving cancer. Why is someone who doesn't survive depression a coward?

posted by Anniecski on Aug 13, 2014 at 03:29:28 pm     #   7 people liked this

I think confusion stems from the misleading terminology. "Feeling depressed" and "depression" are wholly different things, but because of the name, they're assumed to be the same thing. Just because you've had a bad day or a bad string of luck and have "been depressed" doesn't mean you have gone through what a person suffering from depression goes through.

posted by Johio83 on Aug 13, 2014 at 04:21:17 pm     #  

Very well put, johio83. They are two different things. Someone should take up your thoughts and work at "rebranding" depression.

The mental health industry had a great awareness campaign a few years ago. You may have seen a couple of billboards around Toledo.

"It's just diabetes. Get over it."
"It's just cancer. Get over it."

It is a disease. One, happily or sadly, that most people really can't understand until they've suffered from it. Those of you who are having trouble understanding it, count yourselves lucky.

posted by hippiechick on Aug 13, 2014 at 05:38:36 pm     #  

From HippieChick and some nameless mental health awareness group:

The mental health industry had a great awareness campaign a few years ago. You may have seen a couple of billboards around Toledo.

"It's just diabetes. Get over it."
I was diagnosed with Type 2 last June, and it's very likely that I won't ever get over it. I can, however, treat the symptoms and alter my diet, which is what I'm doing now.

"It's just cancer. Get over it."
Yeah, I hear you. Again, back in June some sawbones joyfully told me I had a nice case of squamous cell cancer which had taken up residence at the root of my tongue and migrated into a tumor deep inside my neck. One option is a 12 hour surgery guaranteed to leave me screwed up for life, but cancer free. The other is a 7 week course of radiation and chemo therapies that have a very high success rate, but which comprise the toughest set of side effects available, bar none. That's the one I'm taking, by the way, so in about four weeks I'll no longer be the cheerful, upbeat contributor that everyone has come to know and love, but will morph into a nasty-tempered, curmudgeonly sort that will likely get me suspended by Our Noble SysOp for the equivalent of bayoneting the wounded in a flame war.

So it's just depression, and you may rest assured that if and when I notice that I'm depressed enough to start playing Russian Roulette with Betsy, I'll post something truly inflammatory about some unsuspecting user known to have a volatile temperament and feel better about myself. AnonymousCoward is a likely candidate, but since the silly SOB got himself banned (insert cheers for JR here) I'll have to think of someone else. McCaskey, maybe. He's always been easy to bait.

Meantime, the whole billboards comment just rubbed me the wrong way, irrationally speaking. I don't know just why, but it did.

I've watched Main Lady cure people of clinical depression, and it wasn't easy, and she did it in spite of the other mental health care workers involved with these clients. These were people who had been institutionalized for years and years, and because of her efforts they left the institution, got an apartment and a job and led (and are still leading) productive lives.

So in Robin William's case and in similar cases, I think it's safe to say that he was not getting the help he needed. Otherwise he'd still be with us. Maybe our elected officials will start looking at the mental health system with an eye towards fixing it.

But probably not.

posted by madjack on Aug 13, 2014 at 07:31:27 pm     #   6 people liked this

Godspeed madjack.

posted by justread on Aug 13, 2014 at 08:10:50 pm     #   3 people liked this

madjack posted at 07:31:27 PM on Aug 13, 2014:

From HippieChick and some nameless mental health awareness group:

The mental health industry had a great awareness campaign a few years ago. You may have seen a couple of billboards around Toledo.

"It's just diabetes. Get over it."
I was diagnosed with Type 2 last June, and it's very likely that I won't ever get over it. I can, however, treat the symptoms and alter my diet, which is what I'm doing now.

"It's just cancer. Get over it."
Yeah, I hear you. Again, back in June some sawbones joyfully told me I had a nice case of squamous cell cancer which had taken up residence at the root of my tongue and migrated into a tumor deep inside my neck. One option is a 12 hour surgery guaranteed to leave me screwed up for life, but cancer free. The other is a 7 week course of radiation and chemo therapies that have a very high success rate, but which comprise the toughest set of side effects available, bar none. That's the one I'm taking, by the way, so in about four weeks I'll no longer be the cheerful, upbeat contributor that everyone has come to know and love, but will morph into a nasty-tempered, curmudgeonly sort that will likely get me suspended by Our Noble SysOp for the equivalent of bayoneting the wounded in a flame war.

So it's just depression, and you may rest assured that if and when I notice that I'm depressed enough to start playing Russian Roulette with Betsy, I'll post something truly inflammatory about some unsuspecting user known to have a volatile temperament and feel better about myself. AnonymousCoward is a likely candidate, but since the silly SOB got himself banned (insert cheers for JR here) I'll have to think of someone else. McCaskey, maybe. He's always been easy to bait.

Meantime, the whole billboards comment just rubbed me the wrong way, irrationally speaking. I don't know just why, but it did.

I've watched Main Lady cure people of clinical depression, and it wasn't easy, and she did it in spite of the other mental health care workers involved with these clients. These were people who had been institutionalized for years and years, and because of her efforts they left the institution, got an apartment and a job and led (and are still leading) productive lives.

So in Robin William's case and in similar cases, I think it's safe to say that he was not getting the help he needed. Otherwise he'd still be with us. Maybe our elected officials will start looking at the mental health system with an eye towards fixing it.

But probably not.

The cancer has no idea what it's in for. I almost for sorry for it.
It'll leave eventually, 'cause it'll get sick of sharing space with yo crazy azz.

(Whatever you need...)

posted by McCaskey on Aug 13, 2014 at 08:29:31 pm     #   5 people liked this

Thanks, JustRead. Thanks McCaskey.

I'll probably need a little cheering up about five weeks into the misery therapy. Shoot me an email sometime - you can find my addy over at the shack.

posted by madjack on Aug 14, 2014 at 08:03:21 pm     #   1 person liked this

I was avoiding this thread because Robin Williams' death just wasn't something that I would like to discuss.

However when I saw that my buddy, madjack made a comment..

Anywho... I am just down the road from ya! How about I stop by and bother you later next week? paulhem[at]toledoblade[dot]com

posted by paulhem on Aug 15, 2014 at 09:24:25 am     #  

Thanks Paul.

posted by madjack on Aug 15, 2014 at 09:34:04 am     #  

Good luck Madjack.....kick cancer's ass!!

posted by JeepMaker on Aug 15, 2014 at 09:35:34 am     #  

Best of luck, madjack! The Cski family will say a prayer for you tonight.

posted by Anniecski on Aug 15, 2014 at 09:42:35 am     #  

Good luck Madjack, will be thinking about you.

posted by MIJeff on Aug 15, 2014 at 12:51:30 pm     #  

Good luck , Madjack ! Prayers to you and your family .

posted by foodie88 on Aug 15, 2014 at 02:46:17 pm     #  

I'm typically not a Bourbon drinker. But, in your honor and in wishing you the very best in defeating the SOB who has decided to share your body space - temporarily I'm convinced - in about two and a half hours from now I'll hoist a glass of the fine, amber colored liquid gold and give it a tip in your direction.

My very best wishes mj.

posted by Foodie on Aug 15, 2014 at 03:00:01 pm     #   1 person liked this

Best of wishes, madjack. Kick butt.

posted by hippiechick on Aug 15, 2014 at 03:13:57 pm     #  

mj, hang in there, you can dooo eeet. healing vibes going out with you in mind. scary shit, but not as scary as the thought of having to get in an internet argument with you! keep us posted! <3

posted by nana on Aug 15, 2014 at 03:46:27 pm     #   2 people liked this

Prayers coming your way, madjack!

posted by renegade on Aug 15, 2014 at 08:40:56 pm     #  

Never hurry. Take plenty of exercise. Always be cheerful. Take all the sleep you need. Expect to be well. ~ James Freeman Clarke

Prayers for madjack.

posted by Molsonator on Aug 15, 2014 at 09:59:31 pm     #  

Best wishes and prayers/good vibes to you, MadJack!

posted by dell_diva on Aug 15, 2014 at 10:39:59 pm     #  

You take care Jack.

posted by SherryET on Aug 16, 2014 at 12:48:42 am     #  

My sincere thanks to all of you for your offers of help, your kind words, thoughts and prayers. I'm a little surprised at the turnout.

The therapy begins Monday. I have radiation 5 times per week and chemo once per week. The radiation therapy requires having to wear some custom made gear that looks like a fencer's mask, fits like a tight glove and serves to hold you down without allowing you to move. Wearing it sends me into a panic attack, which I'm combating with Xanax, relaxation exercises and prayer. Radiation therapy last about 30 minutes, start to finish.

By contrast, the chemo requires that I sit in a quiet room and make myself comfortable in a recliner for about 6 hours while the Cisplatin is given to me via an IV. My request for a few shots of vodka was taken as a joke (and so denied) by everyone except my primary care physician. He knows me, you see.

posted by madjack on Aug 16, 2014 at 05:16:32 pm     #   1 person liked this

Sounds like a tough road ahead of you ... Sending you thoughts of strength, courage and determination and prayers that all will be well.

posted by jmleong on Aug 17, 2014 at 11:45:47 am     #  

Wish they could do this for you Madjack

posted by MIJeff on Aug 17, 2014 at 12:20:06 pm     #  

That was the third option, MiJeff. The skipper was Shoot-em-up Mike and Gunpowder McCaskey was the torpedo man. The trouble was my new ObongoCare health insurance wouldn't cover it - they claim it's an experimental treatment. So I guess it's four months of misery for poor old me.

posted by madjack on Aug 17, 2014 at 06:36:15 pm     #  

Good luck MadJack.

A friend of ours was treated for a similar head/neck cancer. Only in her late 20s when hers struck (no age barriers to cancer). Hers started near the jawbone and spread down the neck, requiring a 13 hour surgery to remove + radiation and chemo.

After surgery/chemo/radiation, she's now 6 years past the bullshit, cancer-free, and just had her second baby post-cancer last year.

Life is good. It does go on. And it will go on with you.

posted by oldhometown on Aug 17, 2014 at 08:25:37 pm     #   6 people liked this

The trouble was my new ObongoCare health insurance wouldn't cover it

But you can get give get give (aw crap, which one is it?) all the mammograms you want...

posted by oldhometown on Aug 17, 2014 at 08:28:26 pm     #  

"Life is good. It does go on. And it will go on with you."
^^
Somehow a plus sign wasn't enough for this.

posted by justread on Aug 17, 2014 at 08:41:11 pm     #   3 people liked this

oldhometown posted at 08:28:26 PM on Aug 17, 2014:

The trouble was my new ObongoCare health insurance wouldn't cover it

But you can get give get give (aw crap, which one is it?) all the mammograms you want...

With consent, both.

posted by justread on Aug 17, 2014 at 08:42:58 pm     #  

even an agnostic will pray once in while... just in case someone is listening. all the best for you mj, thoughts ... prayers ... and for my niece too. peace and strength

posted by enjoyeverysandwich on Aug 17, 2014 at 11:41:15 pm     #  

Jacko: hope the day went reasonably well. Sent you a PM. Check when you feel up to it and post updates on here to group as everything allows.

posted by McCaskey on Aug 18, 2014 at 09:31:08 pm     #  

In absolute truth, the day was crap. After witnessing conclusive proof that Murphy was an incurable optimist and then having a class A run-in with an egotistical, bombastic technician, I was way-laid by my doctor while on my way out.

"Jack, we'll get you through this. Go home, take it easy, have a drink if you want to. Come it tomorrow and let's start all over again; we'll just pretend today didn't happen."

I like this guy. He's good people. So I shook his hand and agreed with him.

posted by madjack on Aug 18, 2014 at 11:24:05 pm     #  

Thanks OldHomeTown. Thanks JustRead. Thanks EnjoyEverySandwich - prayers count double when an agnostic says them. Thanks McCaskey. Maybe next week when my schedule lightens up a little.

posted by madjack on Aug 18, 2014 at 11:26:45 pm     #  

Thinking about you today, madjack. Kick ass, my friend.

posted by gamegrrl on Aug 19, 2014 at 09:16:31 am     #   1 person liked this

I'm not really a praying kind of guy, but I have the good vibe machine fired up and in overdrive for you.

posted by JeepMaker on Aug 19, 2014 at 09:39:50 am     #   1 person liked this

Do we do "praying for you during your treatment" threads? Or does the poor schmuck have to share a thread with Robin Williams hanging himself?

posted by justread on Aug 19, 2014 at 05:37:00 pm     #   2 people liked this

note: I know MadJack and feel like he will recognize "schmuck" as a term of endearment. :)

posted by justread on Aug 19, 2014 at 06:17:59 pm     #   1 person liked this

justread posted at 06:17:59 PM on Aug 19, 2014:

note: I know MadJack and feel like he will recognize "schmuck" as a term of endearment. :)

He's right. I don't have cancer of the brain, no matter what a certain conspicuously absent member might tell you. No, my cancer is in the throat, where it resides next to my jugular vein - a real handy access to the rest of Mad Jack's personal real estate.

Fortunately, I have POISON!!! Yep, good old cancer killing poison, and I got my first dose today. Cisplatin is the concoction of choice (I actually did chose) because although the side effects are much worse, Cisplatin is a tried and true substance and the national success rate for Cisplatin is in the 90s. So I'm miserable, so what? The cancer is gonna die a slow, lingering death. Poison! Nothing like it. Side effects begin in three days. Projectile vomiting, regular vomiting, deathly sick to my stomach. What fun!

Then I've got my own favorite doctor, Dr. Deathray, my radiologist. He oversees the technicians running the gamma-ray cannon, and they are gonna blast that cancer right out of my neck. I think of the cancer cells as being burned alive. Ha! Die, maggots! Die, infidels! (I'm a Christian, all my cancer cells are members of Hamas - why not?)

Side effects begin in two - three weeks and amount a magnificent sore throat. I'm told it feels like you've had a nice, fresh tonsillectomy every morning. Now, I had my tonsils out when I was 16, and I didn't whine about it then, and I'm not going to whine about it now. I'm going to talk and eat as I please.

Apart from the pain meds, my head is still clear enough to recognize a term of endearment from JustRead.

Now to go and pick on McCaskey.

posted by madjack on Aug 20, 2014 at 12:53:47 am     #  

Thoughts and prayers, madjack.

posted by karen on Aug 20, 2014 at 07:39:50 am     #   1 person liked this

Good luck and take care madman.

I hope this doesn't have a significant affect on your beverage preferences (bourbon). It would be an honor to buy you one on the rocks when you get through the process.

posted by jimavolt on Aug 20, 2014 at 10:37:22 am     #   1 person liked this

I have no doubt that you will fly through with great aplomb, madjack, and when you are cured, I too will buy you a flavorful snort or ten.

posted by historymike on Aug 20, 2014 at 01:35:39 pm     #   1 person liked this

Good luck madjack!!!

posted by shamrock44 on Aug 21, 2014 at 07:04:59 am     #   1 person liked this

Thanks a lot for the kind words, bourbon and prayers.

Today was pretty rough, and during the worst of it I started feeling a little depressed. I scanned through this thread, reading the comments and at the end felt a lot better.

posted by madjack on Aug 23, 2014 at 03:02:22 am     #   2 people liked this

Hang in there and stay tough my good man. The sun is always on the horizon. Best wishes for future salt air.

posted by Mariner on Aug 23, 2014 at 07:59:45 am     #  

Get well MJ, I've enjoyed our lunches and as head of the Praetoriani Guard what would jr do with out you.

Tell you what, once you've kicked this things ass, you can take me to the shooting range, I'll even buy all the ammo and the range time, you bring the guns.

posted by SensorG on Aug 23, 2014 at 03:57:22 pm     #   5 people liked this

Anything we can do to make things better for you, let us know MJ. TT is here for you.

posted by upso on Aug 23, 2014 at 05:08:43 pm     #   4 people liked this

One day, MJ, this will all be over. You will be well and feel well. No doubt about it.

posted by holland on Aug 23, 2014 at 08:57:35 pm     #   3 people liked this

We'll all go out to the range, SensorG. Thanks Upso and Holland. One week down, six more to go.

posted by madjack on Aug 24, 2014 at 07:40:08 pm     #  

Will put on a kevlar suitcoat and join yah.

posted by Mariner on Aug 25, 2014 at 05:13:03 am     #