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New job openings in Lucas County

Lucas County is advertising for a Wastewater Treatment Plant Manager (pay range is from $71,000 to $88,000 plus benefits) as well as a Director of Human Resources (pay range from $86,900 to $108,600 plus benefits.) Check out their website for more information.

created by Mike21 on Aug 20, 2014 at 01:38:11 pm     Comments: 10

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Nice! Thanks for the lead. I know some folks who would be interested.

posted by viola on Aug 20, 2014 at 02:49:46 pm     #  

They are also looking for a Public Information Officer - pay range from $57,600 to $72,000 plus benefits.

posted by Mike21 on Aug 20, 2014 at 05:50:54 pm     #  

So the Plant Manager who actually needs to have some education and credentials, and has a direct impact on the quality of water and the costs to provide it is being paid substantially less than the HR scum.

posted by Bandito on Aug 20, 2014 at 11:20:27 pm     #  

Well, one is a manager level position and the other is a director level position.

The pay discrepancy is pretty small, considering it's manager vs director level positions.

posted by mom2 on Aug 20, 2014 at 11:29:56 pm     #   2 people liked this

Bandito posted at 11:20:27 PM on Aug 20, 2014:

So the Plant Manager who actually needs to have some education and credentials, and has a direct impact on the quality of water and the costs to provide it is being paid substantially less than the HR scum.

I try pretty hard not to call people ignorant, but wow.

HR is a demanding arena in today's world.
Especially when people call you scum before you've even been hired.

An HR director could tell you that the pay ranges actually overlap.

Your biggest problems are going to go through the HR office, including your largest exposure to litigation.

posted by justread on Aug 21, 2014 at 06:29:21 am     #   5 people liked this

Hey, justread. Spare us your pap and adjectives.

I guess we can put you down on the list of people who think that it's ok for the Plant Manager who is directly responsible for the quality and safety of the water to be paid up to $20k less than the top HR hack, who is totally unqualified for evaluating the credentials of the Plant Manager (or any other potential employee) they will be hiring.

posted by Bandito on Aug 21, 2014 at 11:40:29 pm     #  

Put me on whatever list you want. You aren't qualified to have this conversation.

You lack the understanding of the scope of each role and how the process works. One is HR director for the county and reports to the county commissioners. The other is a manager level job at a single facility.

Side note: you know it's a waste water treatment plant right? If they get the water cleaner than the millions of gallons of sewer water that hit the rivers and streams every time it rains, they are doing ok.
(I can't believe I am debating the qualifications of individuals who haven't been hired as director yet with a person who never will be one.)

Tell us about the HR person who hurt you. It will help you heal.

posted by justread on Aug 22, 2014 at 06:30:17 am     #   14 people liked this

Bandito posted at 11:20:27 PM on Aug 20, 2014:

So the Plant Manager who actually needs to have some education and credentials, and has a direct impact on the quality of water and the costs to provide it is being paid substantially less than the HR scum.

I, for one, would love to see how the county would do with an HR Director that doesn't have the education or credentials for the job.

posted by clt212 on Aug 22, 2014 at 12:48:27 pm     #  

Agreed.
They have 4200 employees, including judges, coroners, elections, sheriff department, children services, etc... and multiple unions.
The successful candidate will likely be a SPHR with some serious past administrative, bargaining, benefits, labor relations, litigation, arbitration, policy, and recruitment experience.
I wouldn't do it for $108,600.

posted by justread on Aug 22, 2014 at 01:46:48 pm     #  

Yeah, they're underpaying that position by a fair amount. In HR, you really, really get exactly what you pay for. Believe me, I've worked in places with underpaid HR, and it's almost as bad as underpaid IT. :)

posted by endcycle on Aug 22, 2014 at 01:57:35 pm     #