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Trader Joes?

I talked to my Aunt today and the rumor going around her assisted living apartment complex is that a Trader Joe's is going into one of the empty Giant Eagles. Is there any truth to this?

created by pschaff on Apr 07, 2016 at 06:38:14 pm     Comments: 52

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Stop it.

posted by Molsonator on Apr 07, 2016 at 06:42:24 pm     #   4 people liked this

You're not from around here, are you?

posted by JoeyGee on Apr 07, 2016 at 08:40:18 pm     #   3 people liked this

yeah right, next thing you'll tell me is Whole Foods is coming too.

posted by ahmahler on Apr 07, 2016 at 08:59:55 pm     #   1 person liked this

ahmahler posted at 09:59:55 PM on Apr 07, 2016:

yeah right, next thing you'll tell me is Whole Foods is coming too.

Whole Foods isn't open yet. There's still PLENTY of time for the city of Toledo to screw it up.

posted by JoeyGee on Apr 07, 2016 at 09:14:26 pm     #   2 people liked this

JoeyGee posted at 10:14:26 PM on Apr 07, 2016:
ahmahler posted at 09:59:55 PM on Apr 07, 2016:

yeah right, next thing you'll tell me is Whole Foods is coming too.

Whole Foods isn't open yet. There's still PLENTY of time for the city of Toledo to screw it up.

Yeah right-why would a loud mouthed overbearing mayor of Toledo ever say anything negative and inhospitable towards a Nationally acclaimed employer? I can't even imagine a scenario where WF could feel alienated...

posted by ahmahler on Apr 07, 2016 at 09:33:01 pm     #   1 person liked this

pschaff, Toledo Talk has had almost as many threads regarding Trader Joe's as we have Mexican restaurant threads.

Although I did feel a flutter of hope when I saw your post, I'm doubtful.

posted by Anniecski on Apr 08, 2016 at 09:07:12 am     #   1 person liked this

Doubtful seeing as a Giant Eagle is about three times the size of a trader Joe.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Apr 08, 2016 at 10:53:46 am     #   1 person liked this

Most TJ's I've been to would fit in the deli/produce department of the former Giant Eagle stores.

posted by Foodie on Apr 08, 2016 at 11:07:48 am     #  

In_vin_veritas posted at 11:53:46 AM on Apr 08, 2016:

Doubtful seeing as a Giant Eagle is about three times the size of a trader Joe.

Good point...the vacant Giant Eagle locations are approximately 80,000 square feet.

The largest Michigan Trader Joe's is the one in Ann Arbor at about 17,000 square feet:

From MLive.com:
Sizing up Trader Joe's 6 Michigan stores
Stores' square footage in bold

• Ann Arbor, 2398 East Stadium Boulevard - 17,380
• Bloomfield Township, 6536 Telegraph Road - 13,506
• City of Rochester Hills, 3044 Walton Boulevard - 10,920
• Northville Township, 20490 Haggerty Road - 11,440
• Royal Oak, 27880 Woodward Ave - 13,700
• Grosse Pointe, 17000 Kercheval Ave, - 13,000

Source: Public records

posted by mom2 on Apr 08, 2016 at 11:08:52 am     #  

Woah. Maybe that means it's.... FIVE TRADER JOE'S!!!

posted by Johio83 on Apr 08, 2016 at 11:10:29 am     #   8 people liked this

My first thought was that a Giant Eagle store would be too big, but it can be subdivided, like the Krogers at Spring Meadows is being divided for a Michaels store. So the comparative sizes of Giant Eagle and Trader Joe's stores doesn't mean the rumor is false. Doesn't mean it's true either.

posted by suz on Apr 08, 2016 at 11:16:29 am     #   1 person liked this

There is a facebook group to bring Trader Joe's to Toledo. It's my understanding TJ isn't even considering a store in Toledo at this time. Maybe that will change if Whole Food's does well and some people like myself who would make monthly trips to A2 to shop at Whole Food's, TJ's and Zimmermans will decide it isn't worth making a trip to A2 if we can shop at Whole Food's and Thyme market (I'll still make occasional a2 trips for the theaters and Zimmermans).

At this point I say the chances of us having a Trader Joe is about as good as a big airline coming to Toledo

posted by classylady on Apr 08, 2016 at 11:29:03 am     #  

Just heard today that the Dick's on Alexis is closing in July...Maybe that location would work for the size they would be looking for? Just a thought, not saying there's any relation.

Good analogy classylady... :o)

posted by avinsurer on Apr 08, 2016 at 11:52:05 am     #  

Good grief.

posted by Molsonator on Apr 08, 2016 at 12:46:14 pm     #  

Trader Joes is a grocery store, with mostly mediocre, but some kitschy stuff. We talk about it because we don't have one. Believe me, your life wouldn't change unless it opened in one of central city food desserts, but that's not their M.O.. Costco and Whole Foods have had and will have a larger impact.

posted by ahmahler on Apr 08, 2016 at 01:33:01 pm     #   1 person liked this

Their $3 chuck makes a sangria base. :)

posted by SensorG on Apr 08, 2016 at 01:45:47 pm     #  

You can get the exact same shitty wine for $5, sometimes as low as $4. It's the exact same stuff, but it's called Crane Lake.

posted by ahmahler on Apr 08, 2016 at 02:21:20 pm     #  

ahmahler posted at 02:33:01 PM on Apr 08, 2016:

Trader Joes is a grocery store, with mostly mediocre, but some kitschy stuff. We talk about it because we don't have one. Believe me, your life wouldn't change unless it opened in one of central city food desserts, but that's not their M.O.. Costco and Whole Foods have had and will have a larger impact.

I'd mostly agree with that statement. There are a handful of items we buy at TJ's - mostly their salsas and a few canned goods.

I don't find their produce, meats, cheeses or much else anything to write home about.

And we leave the three buck Chuck for those who enjoy it.

posted by Foodie on Apr 08, 2016 at 03:34:17 pm     #  

Trader Joes seem to vary wildly by location and market. We live near one in Chicago and shop there weekly. Great bang for your buck on most items... Produce is just ok but the meats and cheeses are solid. My favorite though is their frozen section. Surprisingly good & inexpensive pizzas.

posted by upso on Apr 08, 2016 at 05:12:11 pm     #  

Bumping up for early April Fool's Day!

posted by viola on Mar 16, 2017 at 09:24:36 am     #   3 people liked this

stahp! :)

posted by nana on Mar 16, 2017 at 09:38:05 pm     #  

Someone already beat you to the early April Fool's day joke. Read the downtown thread, TJ's is now coming to Wheeling avenue in Oregon:)

posted by classylady on Mar 17, 2017 at 09:22:13 am     #  

Still waiting on a confirmed source....

posted by endcycle on Mar 17, 2017 at 09:48:59 am     #  

Yeah, this is weird. I have only heard about it from here.

posted by upso on Mar 17, 2017 at 09:50:34 am     #  

Eventually, the Trader Joe's info contained in the Thread of Tears will be pushed off the main page. Therefore I'll copy 6th_Floor's posts here.

Mar 15, 2017 at 09:58:19 pm

Along the "coming soon" theme, it appears that Trader Joe's finally will be opening a Toledo area store.


Mar 15, 2017 at 10:36:06 pm

Surprisingly in Oregon along Navarre Avenue near Wheeling Street.

posted by jr on Mar 17, 2017 at 10:04:04 am     #  

That's actually a pretty convenient location if you live Downtown or in the OWE! Crossing my fingers.

posted by upso on Mar 17, 2017 at 11:11:24 am     #  

I'll believe it when I see it. Most TJ's are in upscale/well populated areas. It would be really inconvenient for the residents in Sylvania, Maumee, Perrysburg and Ottawa Hills to get to with Whole Foods on Secor. But it would be a good location for people on the East side who don't have any type of store like that since the Woodville closed and the Anderson's is gone. I'm not sure where they would put it unless it's the location of the Old Pharm on Wheeling and Starr.

posted by classylady on Mar 17, 2017 at 11:43:14 am     #  

If I am in Perrysburg, I'll take Oregon over Secor Rd.

posted by justread on Mar 17, 2017 at 12:03:08 pm     #  

Yeah, same. I would take Oregon over West Toledo traffic any day of the week.

posted by upso on Mar 17, 2017 at 04:00:00 pm     #  

OK. Enlighten the uniformed here, please. What's the big deal? According to Wikipedia the average grocery store carries about 50,000 items, they carry about 4,000, 80% of which are store brands.

Exactly why I don't shop at Krogers. Sautter's is my preferred purveyor. I see that Consumer Reports rate Trader Joes very high in customer sastisfaction. So what am I missing.

BTW the environmentally friendly approach is ok, as long as its based on sound science and not hype like the so called "organic" stuff that's peddled. I'm a licensed certified pesticide applicator in Ohio. I know whereof I speak. Many of the commonly used pesticides and disease control chemicals used in the organic industry have higher toxicity levels than non-organic certified chemicals. But thats for another post and I wont argue it here.

I do buy range free local (Wauseon) eggs at Sautters for $3.99 doz. Hoping to see pork and chicken liberated soon. I'll gladly pay more.

But back to the original question. What's so special about Trader Joes?

posted by holland on Mar 17, 2017 at 04:20:45 pm     #  

The store brand stuff is actually really good, affordably priced and typically organic.

posted by upso on Mar 17, 2017 at 04:34:12 pm     #  

I live in Sylvania. Don't you need a passport or something to go to go on the east side of the river?

posted by JoeyGee on Mar 17, 2017 at 04:36:16 pm     #  

They also pay their staff way better than typical grocery store workers so everyone ends up being super nice and happy. It's actually kind of weird. You can go to a TJs in Ann Arbor and experience the same "niceness" as you would in Chicago. Plus, it's quirky. Lots of hand written signage and hawaiian shirts. If atmosphere matters to you, you'll either love it or absolutely hate it. I love it.

posted by upso on Mar 17, 2017 at 04:36:23 pm     #  

But back to the original question. What's so special about Trader Joes?

It was special 20 years ago. Most mainstream grocers have caught up. They specialize in funky-ish stuff. Upso is right-their OWN branded stuff is really good and affordable. Some of the best frozen stuff you can get.

posted by ahmahler on Mar 17, 2017 at 04:37:01 pm     #  

Thank you, everyone. I'll give them a try, if its not terribly out of my way.

posted by holland on Mar 17, 2017 at 05:34:00 pm     #  

Think of it as a very fancy, high end, yet still affordable ALDIs.

posted by upso on Mar 17, 2017 at 08:24:41 pm     #  

I've spoken to the Trader Joes representative and they're not looking to add any more Michigan or Ohio stores. They would not go to Oregon over Perrysburg, Holland or FPM/Secor.

posted by mk123 on Mar 17, 2017 at 09:31:48 pm     #  

Can you give context on why you spoke to TJ reps?

posted by upso on Mar 17, 2017 at 09:37:36 pm     #  

I am in retail development and I recently proposed a site to their broker.

posted by mk123 on Mar 17, 2017 at 09:44:13 pm     #  

I should rephrase my statement. They are not looking to add any stores in NW Ohio or Tri County Detroit area. I didn't ask about Cincinatti/Cleveland/Columbus.

posted by mk123 on Mar 17, 2017 at 09:47:46 pm     #  

So 6thfloor was yanking our collective chain, causing me to bump up this thread :)

Nana, we should have listened to you 19 posts ago when you told us to stahp :)

posted by viola on Mar 18, 2017 at 08:10:46 am     #   1 person liked this

classylady posted at 12:43:14 PM on Mar 17, 2017:

I'll believe it when I see it. Most TJ's are in upscale/well populated areas. It would be really inconvenient for the residents in Sylvania, Maumee, Perrysburg and Ottawa Hills to get to with Whole Foods on Secor. But it would be a good location for people on the East side who don't have any type of store like that since the Woodville closed and the Anderson's is gone. I'm not sure where they would put it unless it's the location of the Old Pharm on Wheeling and Starr.

That spot has already been bought and is being converted into a small business incubator-type thing. There is a lot of farm land for sale on Wheeling on the other side of Pickle, if they want to build new. Easy to get to off 280, lots of room for parking. Of course, there's also Northwood Commons formerly known as Great Eastern. :)

posted by nana on Mar 18, 2017 at 08:58:35 am     #  

Ok 6th, come clean. Was that a master trolling effort, or did you drink the Kool Aid?

posted by ahmahler on Mar 18, 2017 at 09:15:41 am     #  

6th is such a tease.

posted by upso on Mar 18, 2017 at 12:44:15 pm     #   2 people liked this

JoeyGee posted at 05:36:16 PM on Mar 17, 2017:

I live in Sylvania. Don't you need a passport or something to go to go on the east side of the river?

Not if you know the right people and you cross the river during daylight hours, no, you don't need a passport.

posted by madjack on Mar 18, 2017 at 01:36:52 pm     #  

ahmahler posted at 10:15:41 AM on Mar 18, 2017:

Ok 6th, come clean. Was that a master trolling effort, or did you drink the Kool Aid?

Note the silence - he drank the Kool-Aid.

Although I'm not a broker or developer, I'd like to think that I'm a little smarter than a retarded 12-year-old, which is what you'd have to be to open a retail store like Trader Joe's in the Toledo metro area and expect it to succeed. In Columbus, particularly around Dublin, sure. But Toledo? Come on. What color is the sky in your world?

As far as 6th goes, someone probably fed him a line and he believed them. I don't think he's the sort to pull a trolling effort like this one.

posted by madjack on Mar 18, 2017 at 01:44:34 pm     #  

I think that the Oregon store is called "Trader Joe's Outpost", selling gear for hunters, trappers, and fishermen.

posted by jr on Mar 18, 2017 at 04:09:43 pm     #  

At the last Oregon Economic Foundation meeting, this was never brought up. This group has the pulse of new businesses in the area.

posted by Hoops on Mar 19, 2017 at 09:14:33 am     #  

I don't know how to quote, so...

upso said: "Think of it as a very fancy, high end, yet still affordable ALDIs."

Kart and Theo Albrecht had a spat in 1960, and they split the Aldi company to form Aldi Nord (North) and Aldi Süd (South). Aldi Nord also owns Trader Joe’s, as of the late 1970s.

posted by gamegrrl on Mar 19, 2017 at 12:36:21 pm     #  

Hit the quote sign on the far right of the post you want to quote then type.

Holy shit, upso.

posted by nana on Mar 19, 2017 at 08:19:20 pm     #  

upso posted at 09:24:41 PM on Mar 17, 2017:

Think of it as a very fancy, high end, yet still affordable ALDIs.

Interesting that you point this out as TJ's is owned by ALDI's. In fact when I was in Germany last year and went into an ALDI's there were a number of TJ's branded products on the stores.

posted by breeman on Mar 20, 2017 at 05:23:40 am     #  

I wish Aldi would partner with TJ in the US and carry some of their products the way Bed, Bath and Beyond partners with World Market in some cities.

posted by classylady on Mar 20, 2017 at 11:02:31 am     #