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Is it just me or is the new Blade site garbage?
Where do you find Toledo news?

created by Grumpy on Jun 05, 2016 at 12:30:54 pm     Comments: 35

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There's a hamburger menu top left gives a choice for local. It's not just you don't care much for it either. Had a company issued ipad back when they were first introduced and had to carry it everywhere so not much in the mood for the bigger device. iphone now has too much crammed unto the page flashyer and bright but some pages do not expand to read text for experienced (ie: older eyes). Biggest complaint with most web developers today using device apps is they place paying links on the right where most peeps scroll and the user inadvertantly makes a money maker hit for them and they damn well design it that way. Found am not calling the site up as frequently as with the old format and waiting to use a pc instead.

posted by Mariner on Jun 05, 2016 at 12:55:09 pm     #  

I seen the hamburger menu, but finding news about what happened Toledo the last day or two, nope.

I guess I can still get some news on 13abc.com.

posted by Grumpy on Jun 05, 2016 at 02:22:09 pm     #  

I hate the new site

posted by classylady on Jun 05, 2016 at 05:54:30 pm     #   1 person liked this

I have moved onto other local news sites....the Blade didn't do themselves any favors with this.

posted by dino on Jun 05, 2016 at 07:26:37 pm     #  

BCSN is a disaster as well.

posted by Molsonator on Jun 05, 2016 at 07:53:28 pm     #  

I suppose I'll get used to it, but so far I definitely am not liking the new design.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jun 05, 2016 at 09:10:34 pm     #  

The new Blade website format is a hot mess. Scrambled news everywhere and in no particular order.

posted by hockeyfan on Jun 05, 2016 at 09:58:47 pm     #  

I agree, it is a hot mess. I still prefer the print edition. My subscription expired last month. Got the renewal invoice, and debated whether or not I wanted to renew, because lately I've been so busy I haven't had time to sit down and read the paper, although that is a morning ritual I do enjoy.

A couple weeks later I got the expected second invoice, offering the print edition at an even lower rate than was initially billed. Went online and renewed it with a credit card. That was well over a week ago. They still haven't charged my card, or delivered a newspaper. Haven't had time to call, and they have limited phone hours now, anyways.

I don't know what the hell is going on over there these days.

posted by foodie88 on Jun 06, 2016 at 06:05:15 am     #  

Being from Pittsburgh, Pa, I used to keep up with news from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, the Blade's sister paper. That online site only allows you to "view" a certain number of articles a month without subscribing. I'm sure the Blade will be headed in that direction soon too.

posted by hockeyfan on Jun 06, 2016 at 07:50:01 am     #  

hockeyfan posted at 08:50:01 AM on Jun 06, 2016:

Being from Pittsburgh, Pa, I used to keep up with news from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, the Blade's sister paper. That online site only allows you to "view" a certain number of articles a month without subscribing. I'm sure the Blade will be headed in that direction soon too.

Didn't the Blade start doing that a year or two ago?

I've been getting a pop up that blocks viewing of articles for awhile now - even the obituaries.

(That part annoys me, because the person who places the obituary pays a good deal of money to make the information public. A paid notice like that shouldn't be subject to the subscriber fee.)

posted by mom2 on Jun 06, 2016 at 07:54:19 am     #   2 people liked this

Huh. I like it. Maybe I'm just weird.

posted by endcycle on Jun 06, 2016 at 07:57:34 am     #  

The new Toledo Blade site sucks pond scum.

posted by madjack on Jun 06, 2016 at 07:58:51 am     #  

I'm sure their IT folks resigned the site to make it harder to find the editorials.

posted by JoeyGee on Jun 06, 2016 at 08:40:13 am     #  

JoeyGee posted at 09:40:13 AM on Jun 06, 2016:

I'm sure their IT folks resigned the site to make it harder to find the editorials.

.... really? the top bar where it says Opinion in white letters on a blue background? That's tough to find?

posted by endcycle on Jun 06, 2016 at 08:46:52 am     #  

New design blows. Wouldn't expect anything less from the Blade though. Do you think they were smart enough to have a focus group look at the site before completion/rollout? Because it is terrible.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jun 06, 2016 at 09:41:35 am     #  

mom2 posted at 08:54:19 AM on Jun 06, 2016:
hockeyfan posted at 08:50:01 AM on Jun 06, 2016:

Being from Pittsburgh, Pa, I used to keep up with news from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, the Blade's sister paper. That online site only allows you to "view" a certain number of articles a month without subscribing. I'm sure the Blade will be headed in that direction soon too.

Didn't the Blade start doing that a year or two ago?

I've been getting a pop up that blocks viewing of articles for awhile now - even the obituaries.

(That part annoys me, because the person who places the obituary pays a good deal of money to make the information public. A paid notice like that shouldn't be subject to the subscriber fee.)

Yeah the Blade has done that for years ago. Of course you can block the site that forces the paywall and get unlimited free viewing of the Blade. :)

posted by JustaSooner on Jun 06, 2016 at 09:52:28 am     #  

endcycle posted at 08:57:34 AM on Jun 06, 2016:

Huh. I like it. Maybe I'm just weird.

Yeah. But the two things could also be unrelated. :)

posted by justread on Jun 06, 2016 at 09:56:47 am     #  

mom2 posted at 08:54:19 AM on Jun 06, 2016:
hockeyfan posted at 08:50:01 AM on Jun 06, 2016:

Being from Pittsburgh, Pa, I used to keep up with news from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, the Blade's sister paper. That online site only allows you to "view" a certain number of articles a month without subscribing. I'm sure the Blade will be headed in that direction soon too.

Didn't the Blade start doing that a year or two ago?

I've been getting a pop up that blocks viewing of articles for awhile now - even the obituaries.

(That part annoys me, because the person who places the obituary pays a good deal of money to make the information public. A paid notice like that shouldn't be subject to the subscriber fee.)

As quickly as one can write a $1,000 obit, you ain't kidding.

posted by justread on Jun 06, 2016 at 10:04:09 am     #  

"Huh. I like it. Maybe I'm just weird."

It's an improvement over the two-website setup that existed prior. I like it on the phone.

And the new site seems a little thinner, or it's not as bloated. An article page loads quicker if your browser downloads everything. The amount of crap downloaded is much less than before, but it's still way too much.


"I seen the hamburger menu, but finding news about what happened Toledo the last day or two, nope.

For the local news stream of stories, use this link:

Another option:

And don't use the hamburger icon in the upper left. Use the block icon in the upper right.


The new website uses the infinite scroll to automatically load another batch or page of older stories into the browser.

Keep scrolling to the bottom of a stream view such as the local news page listed above, and you should see new stories load. The same experience exists on the phone.


Depending upon how you use a web browser, here's one possible annoyance with the Blade's implementation of the infinite scroll, and I've seen this problem exist with other websites in recent years. Some websites fix the problem.

After scrolling and scrolling and loading older stories from a few days ago, if you click a story link and load the article into the same browser window, and then click the back button, you will be taken back to page one of the list of stories. The site does not remember where you left off during all the scrolling.

If you scroll, loading in older stories, you need to open a story link in a new browser window, both on desktop and phone in order not to lose your place in the scroll.


Obviously, if you have JavaScript disabled, then the infinite scroll will not work. The site does not degrade gracefully (progressive enhancement) by supplying an "older" or "previous" link to see page two of older stories. With JS disabled, you will only see page one of stories.


I wonder how the new site works for people with vision issues who must use screen readers.


"I'm sure their IT folks resigned the site to make it harder to find the editorials."


When viewing the site on a desktop/laptop computer, then as endcycle said, click the links across the top of the site.

News * Sports * A&E * Business * Opinion

bcsn.tv is not designed to display well on a phone. Maybe that redesign is coming later.


When viewing the new Toledo Blade website on a phone, you have to click the block of three-by-three squares in the upper right corner of the website and not the hamburger icon in the upper left corner.


When I click the block on my phone, the browser crashes every time. But I'm using an older iPhone that has little memory left because of all the photos that I need to delete.


You can also click this block on desktop.

When the menu appears after clicking the block, click the desired down-arrow link to expand the menu for that item to see more options.


After clicking the block of squares:


After clicking the down arrow next to News:


After clicking the down arrow next to Opinion:


Another option: Use the Blade's RSS feeds.

At the moment, I access RSS/Atom feeds from many websites by using The Old Reader.


[begin rant]

Too many content management systems, programmers, and designers want to make websites function like native apps. And that's perfectly fine, depending upon the site's purpose. But it's unnecessary for a site that is mainly used to read text.

Unfortunately, the goal seems to be more about extravagance instead of elegance. Showing off rather than creating a reader-friendly web experience.

I've never been a fan of the infinite scroll because it can be a clunky user experience, and the back button might function improperly. But the implementation is widespread.

And annoyingly, it's being implemented more on article pages. When nearing the end of an article, a new article is automatically loaded. And this can occur even when I'm not done reading the previous article, but I scrolled down too far.

It's a bad user experience, in my opinion. But it seems that every new website redesign implements some version of the infinite scroll pattern. It's another reason why I view much of the web with JavaScript disabled, especially media websites.

C'est la vie.

posted by jr on Jun 06, 2016 at 10:12:38 am     #  

endcycle posted at 09:46:52 AM on Jun 06, 2016:
JoeyGee posted at 09:40:13 AM on Jun 06, 2016:

I'm sure their IT folks resigned the site to make it harder to find the editorials.

.... really? the top bar where it says Opinion in white letters on a blue background? That's tough to find?

Sarcasm? Maybe you've heard of it?

posted by JoeyGee on Jun 06, 2016 at 11:20:27 am     #  

Sorry, didn't see anything that yelled "sarcasm" to me in your posts. Makes sense, I suppose. Have a nice day!

posted by endcycle on Jun 06, 2016 at 11:26:42 am     #  

It's The Blade. I thought they were all pages of opinion.

(SARCASM!!!)

posted by justread on Jun 06, 2016 at 11:38:33 am     #   1 person liked this

I hate the new blade site. Everyone I have talked to hates it. They s

posted by jamesteroh on Jun 06, 2016 at 06:00:08 pm     #  

I hate the new blade site. Everyone I have talked to hates it. They s

posted by jamesteroh on Jun 06, 2016 at 06:00:09 pm     #  

That's new. 2 incomplete comments. I like this new twist / redesign on the double post. Very meta.

posted by endcycle on Jun 06, 2016 at 06:36:56 pm     #   1 person liked this

Not sure what happened:) I thought I typed They should have left well enough alone.

posted by jamesteroh on Jun 06, 2016 at 08:06:00 pm     #  

Aug 31, 2016 - Toledo Blade - TARTA considers buying The Blade building for downtown bus hub

Joseph H. Zerbey IV, The Blade's president and general manager, said nothing is official yet.

Mr. Zerbey said the Block family wants to make certain The Blade's historic building is preserved.

Mr. Zerbey said Blade employees could be moved to buildings owned by the company where Buckeye Broadband, which is also owned by Block Communications Inc., was located.

“There is also a plan to keep part or a good chunk of the newsroom downtown somewhere in the future,” he said.

More than 200 people work at The Blade’s downtown building.

TARTA employs 325 people.

The newspaper has occupied its present home at 541 North Superior St., since May, 1927.


Aug 30, 2016 - Toledo Blade - Block ownership of Blade marks 90th year

Ninety years ago today, businessman and newspaper mogul Paul Block, Sr., took control of The Toledo Blade — the city’s oldest and greatest newspaper since its founding in 1835.

The newspaper’s present home, its 12th in downtown Toledo, is the site it has occupied since May, 1927 — roughly one year after the newspaper was purchased by Mr. Block, Sr., for $4.5 million. That sum had the same buying power in 1926 as $61.1 million does today, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The move to the current newspaper office, an imposing gray stone building on Superior Street at Orange Street, was accomplished over a weekend without missing an edition, and on May 2, 1927, President Calvin Coolidge used a telegraph key in the White House to activate the first press run in the new building.

posted by jr on Aug 31, 2016 at 12:26:33 pm     #  

https://facebook.com/toledodeservesagreatnewspaper

Excerpts from an Aug 31, 2016 post related to the story posted in the comment above:

The Guild strongly condemns Blade management's plans to abandon its historic downtown headquarters, another in a long line of actions taken by Block Communications to disinvest from the city and the community.

In a shocking display of contempt for Toledo and its own workforce, Blade management is reported to be considering turning over the 89-year-old building at 541 Superior St. to TARTA for use as a bus turnaround lot and administration office.

As per usual, Blade employees are told nothing of what current ownership plans to do.

The Blade's editorial page has spent decades attacking business owners who abandoned the downtown. Now we see Blade management, presented with exactly the same tough circumstances other downtown building owners have had to concern themselves with, giving up and moving.

Blade workers are used to this kind of hypocrisy. While we have faced pay and benefit cuts and our headquarters was allowed to fall into disrepair, Block Communications spent millions on a new headquarters for other BCI entities, moving hundreds of jobs out of the city.

The Blade's backhanded and insulting treatment of Toledo and Lucas County is the same treatment Guild employees have endured for more than a decade now.

posted by jr on Aug 31, 2016 at 12:34:08 pm     #  

Empty buses, tax payer money and a deal with the Blocks. Lovely.

I smell another levy.

posted by Danneskjold on Aug 31, 2016 at 04:53:41 pm     #  

Eww, I hate the smell of dead levy in the road.

posted by justread on Aug 31, 2016 at 05:57:41 pm     #   1 person liked this

"The grass is greener on the other side of the river" said The Northwood Blade , the former Toledo Blade.

posted by marving on Sep 01, 2016 at 04:36:19 am     #   1 person liked this

I think BCI moved everything but The Blade to Northwood.

posted by justread on Sep 01, 2016 at 10:45:24 am     #  

justread posted at 11:45:24 AM on Sep 01, 2016:

I think BCI moved everything but The Blade to Northwood.


My June 2007 Toledo Talk post that referenced a June 2007 Blade op-ed titled The Masons flee once more

THE announced departure of the Masonic organization from the Zenobia Shrine location it has occupied for nearly six decades on Madison Avenue is not the first time the Masons have decided to abandon the heart of the city.

Many Toledoans will recall that the Masons left their downtown temple at Michigan and Adams streets and opened a new Masonic complex in 1969 on Heatherdowns Boulevard, a complex that included a theater initially known as the Masonic Auditorium.

It was a move opposed by this newspaper as far back as 1965, when we lamented what amounted to a selfish sabotage of community efforts to rejuvenate downtown Toledo.

Man, the newspaper can hold a grudge.

My comment from that June 2007 post:

The Blade is probably jealous that it cannot move to Wood County.

In the 1990s, I worked in both versions of that Northwood building, located near the intersection of Wales and Oregon roads. The remnants of my former employer moved to downtown Toledo back in May.


Ten years ago, the Blade (and some other people) supported moving UT's law school to downtown Toledo. Actually, the Blade is still pushing this idea.

January 2016 column by Keith Burris:

Move the UT law school downtown.

It has been talked about many times by many smart people and there is no good reason not to do it. It would add another level of dynamism and intellectual capital to what is already happening downtown and would, I think, be good for UT and its law students — less cocooning and more community.

Will the Blade cocoon itself away from downtown Toledo and possibly away from all of Toledo and possibly out of Lucas County?


Back in 2014, the Blade began pushing for Owens Community College to create a presence in downtown Toledo.

Why not increase Owens’ presence in downtown Toledo? Most recently, these voices have included The Blade, editorially, and Rep. Marcy Kaptur.

And the push continues in 2016.

April 2016 Blade op-ed

Maybe the future for Owens is in bringing its product to its clientele: Cherry Street, TPS, other public high schools in the region, and downtown. Lose those big campuses.

But the future is not in a taxpayer bailout.

Selling property to a taxpayer-supported entity may be a good idea.


From the Aug 31, 2016 Blade story about possibly selling its building:

Mr. Zerbey said Blade employees could be moved to buildings owned by the company where Buckeye Broadband, which is also owned by Block Communications Inc., was located.

“There is also a plan to keep part or a good chunk of the newsroom downtown somewhere in the future,” he said.

More than 200 people work at The Blade’s downtown building.

posted by jr on Sep 01, 2016 at 11:44:52 am     #  

"Do as we say, not as we do" should be their new motto...

posted by Mike21 on Sep 01, 2016 at 12:00:40 pm     #   1 person liked this