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Gas prices dropping...short memory

I imagine that everyone has noticed the drop in gas prices lately. I saw prices as low as $3.47 per gallon. Who would ever think that was a low price? But after paying $4.00 plus per gallon for awhile, it DOES seem like a low price.

Part of this drop is due to the shake-out of the wilder speculation which is a normal part of any futures market, regardless of the commodity. However, a big part of this drop, I believe, is that gas consumption has declined. On the news I heard that gas consumption is down about 5 percent from where it is normally this time of year.

Here's the question I pose....how long do you think it will take people to stop thinking about purchasing economy cars and planning their driving trips more carefully if the price drops to say, oh, $3.00 a gallon (still quite high from a few years ago).

Do people EVER take a long term view on anything anymore, or is it always immediate gratification?

I have always driven an economy car. I am single, no kids, so it just made the most sense to me even when others would laugh at my choice in cars. The nice thing about that was that in the PAST you could pick up a 2 year old economy car, with well under 20,000 miles, still with an active warranty, for well under $10,000. Man, those economy car prices sure have surged upwards, at least for the used car market.

created by frigus_veritas on Jul 29, 2008 at 08:30:59 pm     Comments: 6

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Yeah I drive a spacious economy car as well!
People make fun of it because its a box on wheels...but I'll tell you this...last weekend we went camping @ St. Hazards on Middle Bass Island and we drove from Toledo to Catawba without my fuel gauge moving itself from the full mark.
That was with it loaded up with all our camping supplies and coolers.

yeah. I drive a box, so what?

posted by stooks on Jul 30, 2008 at 06:26:46 am     #



I've always tried to be careful/conservative when it comes to driving. We have 2 vehicles here that get 25 MPG or better. One is a 1992 Honda Accord Wagon that we've owned for more than 6 years now that gets right around 30 MPG, the other is a 1995 Ford Aerostar that, on a recent trip to Baltimore, MD, averaged a fairly impressive 27 MPG.

I "meter" my driving to the point of making sure that I have more than one stop when I drive to town (I live out in the sticks). Yes, I could drive something other than my Aerostar, but at 25 MPG+, and with as little driving as I do, it's not necessary. And with a family of 4 as well as 4 dogs, it gives us enough room if we all have to go somewhere!

posted by justsimplyholly on Jul 30, 2008 at 07:21:42 am     #



I should add that for "average" driving the Aerostar averages right around 22-25 MPG. I fill it up every 2 weeks and on a 20 gallon tank I get at least 450 miles out of it.

posted by justsimplyholly on Jul 30, 2008 at 07:25:00 am     #



Stooks and Frigus, don't ever take any shit for your choice of a fuel-efficient vehicle. Call the rest of us the appropriate word "STUPID" for using trucks and SUVs. Call us STUPID, for we deserve it. YOU are the smart ones. Revel in it. You have to return this nation to ridiculing people like justsimplyholly (see below) before the real culture of efficiency takes hold.

And, justsimplyholly: Your attitude is exactly half of the problem. You've been BRAINWASHED into thinking that 27mpg is "impressive". 25mpg should be the LOW end of what we're offered in the auto market, but the corrupt Capitalism we have has ensured that it's ABOVE AVERAGE.

You should be DEMANDING 40mpg for your vehicle. At least. We were flirting with 50mpg cars in the early 1990s. We let the corrupt auto companies leave that realm almost entirely and mass-produce crap that got less than 20mpg.

posted by GuestZero on Jul 30, 2008 at 10:40:25 am     #



http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/tables/08s1070.pdf

Historical average miles per gallon...

Can you believe that in the 35 yrs betw 1970 and 2005 our overall average (all cars, trucks, vans, etc) mpg only increased by 5 lousy mpg?? Are any of you old enough to have worked on a 1970's era car engine? They were just simple internal combustion engines - fun to play with! Now - hell, I open the hood and look at all the gizmos and just shut it again... All that junk and cost and what did it get us?

Car's avg mpg increased by just 9 mpg, and busses actually get WORSE mpg than 35 years ago??

With all the computer advancements we've seen since 1970, shouldnt we be asking for better?

posted by billy on Jul 31, 2008 at 02:14:27 pm     #



You TOTALLY misinterpreted what I wrote GZ! Is 27 MPG impressive as a whole? NO! But 27 MPG for a 13+ year old mini van is! Especially when you consider the fact that the average MPG for a 2008 Honda Civic is 25 City/36 Highway according to the Government. You can see where I got that info at this website where you can get the average MPG for just about every vehicle made since 1985.

I'd GLADLY drive something that got 40 MPG, "IF" I could afford to buy a new vehicle, but right now, that's just not feasible!

posted by justsimplyholly on Jul 31, 2008 at 06:20:05 pm     #