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Maumee Decline

There has been an exodus of major corporations leaving the municipal tax duplicate from Maumee in the last two years. Hart Inc. an old line PR firm being the latest to vacate ArrowHead Park. Has the Maumee haughtiness caught up with itself or what gives? They won't be able to sustain that trophy wife lifestyle for long going in this direction.

created by Mariner on May 10, 2017 at 06:39:19 am     Comments: 20

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Drove by Hart yesterday and it was still there?

posted by Molsonator on May 10, 2017 at 06:44:36 am     #  

Moving 60 employees to dwntwn to the Hylant Bldg. Have been in Maumee since the 1970's.

posted by Mariner on May 10, 2017 at 06:54:10 am     #  

Thanks for the link. Probably a good move for Hart.

posted by Molsonator on May 10, 2017 at 08:13:02 am     #  

Maumee haughtiness?

posted by ahmahler on May 10, 2017 at 09:19:55 am     #   3 people liked this

The eb and flow of businesses out of downtown to the suburbs and back is fascinating to watch. We just don't have the population density to support both business venues.

posted by upso on May 10, 2017 at 09:23:44 am     #   1 person liked this

Im sure the Anderson's move hurt quite a bit. But I think the exodus from Arrowhead will be short lived and they will backfill. I think the reports of Maumee's death have been exaggerated. They may have to slow their roll, but I think they will be just fine.

posted by BulldogBuckeye on May 10, 2017 at 09:27:22 am     #   1 person liked this

Maumee has enjoyed all the benefits of neighboring to the City of Toledo for years without even an acknowledgement of dependence nor conviviality. Maintaining its bedroom boulevard presentation, much like a posturing paramour, it casts a glowering disdainful eye towards its larger neighbor. That attitude will surely change fast when the due bills become increasingly painful caused by the heavy migration of corporate contribution. Rossford, Oregon, Waterville all have substantial forward motion in the near future. Maumee is driving into the red ink. Have a nice trip boys.

posted by Mariner on May 10, 2017 at 09:36:55 am     #   1 person liked this

Rossford has one (1).....new business (Denver Florist warehouse) signed and committed. No others that I know of. Lots of promising talk, but not a tremendous amount of action. No one else signed for the Harman/Crossroads development. No one signed for any of the RED project.

posted by BulldogBuckeye on May 10, 2017 at 09:42:26 am     #  

My own interpretation: Maumee's biggest problem has been its over-reliance on Arrowhead Park. They built a pretty campus-style business park and filled it while that was the zeitgeist in the 80's/90's, but never took steps to tie it all in with the actual heart of their own city. Perrysburg is copying their playbook exactly with Levis Commons - bringing in all that business with a hot new commercial/retail area, but no effort to build synergy with the heart of Perrysburg itself. Like with a shopping mall, the shine eventually wears off, and you'd better hope you have more reason than just "well it's new!" to keep people excited about it.

posted by Johio83 on May 10, 2017 at 09:56:38 am     #   1 person liked this

What is the occupancy rate at Arrowhead Park? I have no idea. Is this really a concern? Sure, some businesses have relocated, but overall what does the place look like? Looks pretty full on the occasions I have been there.

Again, no idea so I'm asking.

posted by JoeyGee on May 10, 2017 at 10:35:30 am     #  

http://m.wtol.com/toledonewsnow/db_347256/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=JSOZFY2w

Maumee is going to be just fine. I love the mayor's comment about Maumee not needing to charge a garbage collection fee. Oh, snap.

posted by dell_diva on May 11, 2017 at 10:14:35 pm     #   3 people liked this

dell_diva posted at 10:14:35 PM on May 11, 2017:

http://m.wtol.com/toledonewsnow/db_347256/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=JSOZFY2w

Maumee is going to be just fine. I love the mayor's comment about Maumee not needing to charge a garbage collection fee. Oh, snap.

The rats must eat a lot of it.

posted by justread on May 12, 2017 at 05:03:50 am     #  

And pools. He mentioned their pools. That keeps all their ne'er do wells and hooligans busy so they have no time for shenanigans.

posted by JoeyGee on May 12, 2017 at 08:13:30 am     #   2 people liked this

One thing I never understood about Maumee is why they chose double yellow diagonal striped lines to designate "turn lanes" on Conant.

posted by justread on May 12, 2017 at 09:32:31 am     #   1 person liked this

I love downtown Maumee. I just wish there were more of it. Downtown Perrysburg is really well balanced between your "let's go get a beer and watch the game" and your "lets have a nice night out together." Downtown Maumee doesn't offer anything on the higher end of that spectrum. (Don't get me wrong, Degage is one of my favorite places in town, and definitely satisfies the "upper end" need, but it's too far from Conant Street to really be considered a part of that area.)

posted by Johio83 on May 12, 2017 at 09:44:56 am     #   1 person liked this

Despite the recent job exodus (Andersons, Hart, Ford Stamping Plant, Laura's Framing Place) Maumee is doing all right. They still have a business portfolio many cities would envy. Dana is holding strong at #428 on the Fortune 500. They have Paramount Healthcare, St Luke's, UPS, Maritz, Andersons grain division, 20 motels and 70 restaurants. Since the city has a relatively small footprint, only 10.6 square miles, they are able to maintain roads, parks, and services and keep things attractive for residents.

I agree Johio83. Downtown Perrysburg and to a lesser extent Sylvania, have made strides in the last two decades in adding upscale amenities like boutique shops, cafes, bars and restaurants. Aside from a couple new additions like the coffee, candy, and art gallery shops, Maumee hasn't really seen that much of this development. The historic core seems to be lacking in dining options, and even storefronts. Aside from West Wayne, uptown is basically only 2 1/2 blocks long. I have some Dan Gilbert style ideas for the city, but since I'm still working on that first million, I will toss one out lightly...

Redevelop the bank blocks. Three prime blocks in Maumee's uptown commercial district are occupied by banks. They serve a purpose in the community, but are generic and don't add anything in the way of entertainment or cultural appeal. Take each 'bank block' one by one and redevelop it. I envision 3 to 5 story Levis Commons style mixed use buildings with commercial on the ground floor and residential up top. The banks can stay, only there will be a mix of tenants broadened to include dining, entertainment, and housing options. Rather than being a complete 180 for existing residents, it will simply be an extension of what already exists between Dudley Street and Broadway.

The old funeral home and Bell building next to the movie theater would be next on my list. Bring Maumee into the 21st century with some interesting new development.

posted by mixman on May 12, 2017 at 08:02:34 pm     #  

justread posted at 09:32:31 AM on May 12, 2017:

One thing I never understood about Maumee is why they chose double yellow diagonal striped lines to designate "turn lanes" on Conant.

I'm in uptown Maumee frequently. +1 for the LOL. But can you imagine the traffic backups if left turns were allowed willy-nilly? The Fort Meigs bridge is a nice structure, but it's for driving, not parking.

posted by jmleong on May 16, 2017 at 02:55:37 pm     #