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Does anybody have an inside scoop on what's being built on Monroe Street across from Sakura in the location of a former used car dealer? Looks like a drive-thru--maybe a restaurant (Dunkin' Donuts is what I'm hoping for).

created by Clancy on Aug 03, 2017 at 05:05:09 pm     Comments: 32

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Also wondering. It's definitely some kind of drive-thru. Dunkin would be good. I'm still waiting on Hardee's coming to town that was announced 16 months ago.

posted by mixman on Aug 03, 2017 at 06:12:35 pm     #  

I was told today that the sale was completed and chick fila will be building in the El Vaquero parking lot on Secor. May be what that strip mall needs to finally get development going.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Aug 03, 2017 at 07:02:00 pm     #  

I thought the Blade said it was a Taco Bell going in in front of Hobby Lobby.

posted by JohnnyMac on Aug 03, 2017 at 07:57:45 pm     #  

Taco Bell is going in front of Hobby Lobby. Something else is going in a few doors down, over by Reset.

posted by mixman on Aug 03, 2017 at 08:36:39 pm     #  

A Chick-fil-A is also opening in the UT Student Union.

The foundation of the building that is just starting across from Sakura and next to the Bar 145 strip definitely looks as if it involves a drive-thru.

Although the Dunkin' Donuts on Central has improved with new ownership, I'm always amazed at the number of vagrants who hang around the Central/Douglas area. A neighborhood that appears to be slipping.

posted by Clancy on Aug 03, 2017 at 09:44:29 pm     #  

Appears? Check out how many homes have steel gate type storm doors in that neighborhood.

posted by Foodie on Aug 04, 2017 at 10:27:08 am     #  

Speaking of that area...a little farther down 5656 monroe st, used to be a flooring store right by Once upon a child...has a big red fascia now but no signs. anyone know?

posted by Novrain on Aug 04, 2017 at 01:31:43 pm     #  

The former flooring store will be the new Appliance Center location.

posted by idinspired on Aug 04, 2017 at 02:25:26 pm     #  

Also in that area the long vacant pizza hut and former lonestar properties are set to become a Twin Peaks sports bar. This is in the August plan commission agenda.
http://www.twinpeaksrestaurant.com/

posted by tk29 on Aug 04, 2017 at 02:41:28 pm     #  

Figured On The Border was dead. But I didn't hear Twin Peaks was interested. Been to the vegas ones a few times. Pretty good and better than another Mexican restaurant. Hope whatever prevented OTB from building doesn't get in the way. That spot badly needs development.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Aug 04, 2017 at 04:46:55 pm     #  

I thought to myself "oooooooh, a twin peaks tv show themed restaurant?! that sounds interesting!" and then clicked to find it's referring to breasts like Hooters. 🙃

posted by upso on Aug 04, 2017 at 05:10:08 pm     #  

Good grief. This is really what Toledo needs? Oh well, at least it means new jobs and tax revenue.

posted by Foodie on Aug 05, 2017 at 07:07:35 am     #  

This has "peaked" my interest

posted by Hoops on Aug 05, 2017 at 07:24:29 am     #   1 person liked this

Wow, two breastaurants on the same stretch. This is going to give Hooters a run for their money. I like how they put both of the old parcels together.

Today's news said Jersey Mike's Subs is opening their first area location on Secor by the new Whole Foods.

posted by mixman on Aug 05, 2017 at 09:25:28 am     #  

I wonder if Whole Foods will ever open. Speaking of Secor, I really love Fuzzy's. The burritos are great for a fast food place.

posted by Clancy on Aug 05, 2017 at 10:28:08 am     #  

LOL @ "The new Whole Foods."

posted by 6th_Floor on Aug 05, 2017 at 11:58:33 am     #  

FYI-the very first 365 scheduled to open in Ohio, which actually had a date and had hired staff, ended up being delayed more than 6 months-opening this week. They have not yet scrapped to concept, but it sounds like all timelines stretched out quite a bit. Seems like being purchased by Amazon occupied quite a bit of bandwidth. Not sure this project is quite as dead as many naysayers have nayed.

posted by ahmahler on Aug 05, 2017 at 04:57:56 pm     #   1 person liked this

Can a Twin Peaks survive between a Hobby Lobby and a Chic-fil a? Sort of an odd filler in a moral sandwich.
I tried one sandwich at a chic fil a and never went back. Don't see what the draw is. The breading on the chicken tasted like it had sugar in it. I didn't even finish the sandwich.

posted by holland on Aug 05, 2017 at 08:58:07 pm     #   3 people liked this

No one has gone bankrupt selling sugar to the American consumer,

posted by JohnnyMac on Aug 05, 2017 at 10:20:22 pm     #   3 people liked this

Went to the chic fil a on Talmadge earlier this week for the 2nd time since it had opened. I am with you Holland. I don't see what the big deal is. Got the sandwich and all that was on it was 2 slices of pickle. The line was so long, it started before their actual parking lot. They had two girls taking the orders (and payments) in the parking lot, so I didn't really get a chance to view the menu board.
On another note, Shatrau about the Rings and Wings (or Wings and Rings) that was supposed to open near the mall? We've been to the one outside Columbus a few times and always liked it.

posted by llz on Aug 06, 2017 at 06:15:17 am     #  

Why do people like Chick-Fil-A's chicken sandwiches so much? Because they have MSG! Artificial flavor enhancement plays a role in their success. It's ironic considering any Chinese restaurant adding MSG to their food would be boycotted and publicly condemned.

posted by mixman on Aug 06, 2017 at 09:04:53 am     #  

"Why do people like Chick-Fil-A's chicken sandwiches so much? Because they have MSG! Artificial flavor enhancement plays a role in their success."

That applies to a ton of food producers. And MSG goes by many other names. If you check an ingredient list and think, "Good, no Monosodium Glutamate" that might be false. The product may and probably contains MSG, but it's listed under a different name.

In testing, MSG makes rats fat. It's possible that it contributes to health issues among humans because MSG is alleged to be addictive. It's why fast food businesses use it.

Looking further, we find that it is a well kept secret since the late 1970's, that food researchers have known that MSG (Monosodium Glutamate), added to virtually all junk foods, is addictive.

MSG is considered a natural substance in the same ways salt and sugar are, as it is derived from seaweed or corn. Healthy, you might think.

The story of MSG is well documented by John Erb, a former researcher at the University of Waterloo in Canada, in his book The Slow Poisoning of America.

The fact that MSG appears under many names can lead to confusion, as many of the names sound safe. Erb reports that MSG appears as the terms natural flavouring, hydrolyzed or textured vegetable protein, Accent, calcium caseinate, autolyzed yeast extract and gelatin.

When I mention MSG to people they generally think of its use in Chinese food.

However, when you start to look, you'll find it in the coffees you buy at your favourite coffee shops and it's even injected into turkeys, to make them plump.

Erb encourages us to look closely at a wide range of foods, from Campbell's Soups, Hostess Doritos, Lays flavoured potato chips, canned gravies and frozen dinners, to Kraft salad dressings.

MSG is in fact everywhere; the list is virtually endless.

MSG is virtually everywhere in processed foods and is generously used in all restaurants, especially fast food places.

The best way [to avoid MSG] is to stay away from packaged and processed foods.

Remember, just because a restaurant says they do not add MSG, it is almost always lurking in the soup and sauce bases they purchase from manufacturers.

More alleged claims about the negative side of MSG:

Obesity is not the only health issue MSG is linked to, as Dr. George Schwartz in his book, In Bad Taste: The MSG Syndrome Complex, identifies research that links MSG and the dramatic rise in cases of asthma, ADHD, migraines, Parkinson's disease and heartbeat irregularities too.

Ingesting MSG can result in a wide range of symptoms like facial flushing and headaches, with gastrointestinal symptoms, anxiety
and depression reported by individuals as well.

On the flip side, the industry espouses the positives of MSG.

The food industry and food processors do know the impact MSG has on the human body. The glutamate industry website, www.msgfacts.com talks of the positive impact on food consumption in the elderly.

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes has been successful in increasing the food intake of institutionalized elderly populations."

Mmm. Marijuana might increase food take too, and it's probably healthier than the food industry's version of MSG. But the food industry buys politicians.

posted by jr on Aug 06, 2017 at 10:01:21 am     #   2 people liked this

I didn't hear about the wings and rings. I've been to the one in Chicago for late night food and it was good.

posted by jamesteroh on Aug 06, 2017 at 04:39:10 pm     #  

llz posted at 06:15:17 AM on Aug 06, 2017:

Went to the chic fil a on Talmadge earlier this week for the 2nd time since it had opened. I am with you Holland. I don't see what the big deal is. Got the sandwich and all that was on it was 2 slices of pickle. The line was so long, it started before their actual parking lot. They had two girls taking the orders (and payments) in the parking lot, so I didn't really get a chance to view the menu board.
On another note, Shatrau about the Rings and Wings (or Wings and Rings) that was supposed to open near the mall? We've been to the one outside Columbus a few times and always liked it.

I personally do eat it plain with just the pickles.

However, most people get some type of sauce. The Chick Fil A sauce is immensely popular. I think it's something resembling a BBQ type sauce with a hint of honey mustard. Not sure - I've never tried it.

They also have a Polynesian sauce that is really popular.

posted by mom2 on Aug 06, 2017 at 04:49:25 pm     #  

What is going up across from Sakura restaurant is a mexican restaurant called Moe's Southwest Grill , serves alcohol an will be a drive thru

posted by moxie on Aug 06, 2017 at 08:53:23 pm     #  

CoreLife Eatery is going in next to that Starbucks and European Wax in the marshals/homegoods development on Monroe St.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Aug 06, 2017 at 10:28:32 pm     #  

What is a European wax? Everything but the eyebrows?

posted by justread on Aug 07, 2017 at 07:47:56 am     #   1 person liked this

justread posted at 07:47:56 AM on Aug 07, 2017:

What is a European wax? Everything but the eyebrows?

Same as American wax, just more cultured and smelly.

posted by JoeyGee on Aug 07, 2017 at 09:12:09 am     #   1 person liked this

I've heard besides the doors, hood and trunk they do the windows as well.

posted by Mariner on Aug 07, 2017 at 09:30:13 am     #  

Off the path a bit, but, the shine is really off the Whole Foods concept. As someone who frequents both of their A2 stores a minimum of three times a week, it's never been more apparent that they have lost any edge, real or perceived, that they held over the rest of the grocery-selling world. The offerings, the attitude, the vibe, and especially the prepared foods have all lost the premium presentation, taste and quality that set them apart from the pack. I still go there, but it's clear they've kind of run out of the ground-breaking ideas that put them on the map, while others have become hip to their game. Amazon can't come soon enough.

posted by SavageFred on Aug 07, 2017 at 10:21:05 am     #   1 person liked this

agreed

posted by upso on Aug 07, 2017 at 10:24:15 am     #  

SavageFred posted at 10:21:05 AM on Aug 07, 2017:

Off the path a bit, but, the shine is really off the Whole Foods concept. As someone who frequents both of their A2 stores a minimum of three times a week, it's never been more apparent that they have lost any edge, real or perceived, that they held over the rest of the grocery-selling world. The offerings, the attitude, the vibe, and especially the prepared foods have all lost the premium presentation, taste and quality that set them apart from the pack. I still go there, but it's clear they've kind of run out of the ground-breaking ideas that put them on the map, while others have become hip to their game. Amazon can't come soon enough.

100% -I've been dealing with WF for many, many years, as a purveyor. They have completely lost their enthusiasm as a corporation. Always strange how awesome it was, and likely, never to be recaptured. Autonomy, enthusiasm and creativity have given way to homogeneity and corporate consistency. No longer curators of awesome, now, just curators of money.

posted by ahmahler on Aug 07, 2017 at 04:26:40 pm     #