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Wei Wei closed again?

Does anyone know what happened to them? I know they had issues a while ago, but they just up and closed again.

created by golddustwoman on Jan 01, 2018 at 06:42:26 pm     Comments: 65

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They've been closed for a couple of months. There's a sign on the door saying it's temporary, but that's a long "temporary" closing.

posted by Anniecski on Jan 02, 2018 at 09:49:07 am     #   1 person liked this

It's been a while since we've eaten there but I always thought they had good food. Yelp says they are temporarily closed

posted by classylady on Jan 02, 2018 at 10:55:28 am     #  

Maybe they are waiting for the next litter of kittens?

posted by gunz1 on Jan 02, 2018 at 12:28:51 pm     #   5 people liked this

...I found that guy...

posted by slowsol on Jan 02, 2018 at 12:47:20 pm     #   2 people liked this

gunz1 posted at 12:28:51 PM on Jan 02, 2018:

Maybe they are waiting for the next litter of kittens?

....did you really type that in and hit "post" thinking there was actual humor in there somewhere? Did you, for example, giggle to yourself about the historical stereotype (and the bullshit fear mongering lies that it came from in the first place) and think it was worth the energy that you expended typing those letters in?

Lemme guess: you're a gun owning white guy, consider yourself "christian", have voted for republicans most of your adult life (and I'm guessing... you're over 55?), tend to vote AGAINST public school levies (most of the time, but not all), see no issue at all with the Confederate flag being flown in general, and think that racism is less of a problem than reverse racism.

posted by endcycle on Jan 02, 2018 at 12:48:01 pm     #   3 people liked this

slowsol posted at 12:47:20 PM on Jan 02, 2018:

...I found that guy...

Damn. I went the essay route and really shouldn't have. Solid, slowsol. Very solid.

posted by endcycle on Jan 02, 2018 at 01:10:27 pm     #   1 person liked this

My New Year's resolution is to not feed the trolls :)

But I will be trying Kira Japanese at the Secor/475 hotel zone for a hit of Asian food this week. They occupy a cursed location, though, so I don't want to get too attached.

posted by viola on Jan 02, 2018 at 01:11:50 pm     #   2 people liked this

In 1999 I was on contract to the State of South Dakota, working on their Y2K project. I was working and living in Pierre, which is the capital of South Dakota and claims a population 13,000 - if everyone in the graveyard stands up and is counted. Twice.

I got to know some of the locals pretty well, and am still friends with a few of them today. When I was in Pierre, I got a craving for oriental food, and this is the story I was told by one local cowboy loafing at the tack shop on a lazy afternoon.

There are two Chinese restaurants in Pierre, one of which is Chow-Chow Yum-Yum, owned and operated by Sammy Chow. Across the street is a taxidermist who we'll call Fred.

One day a tourist hunter stops in at Fred's place and asks about taxidermy and a coyote he shot. He wants a souvenir for his den, and can't find a jackalope. Fred assures him that he can stuff the coyote for a reasonable price, and the man agrees and leaves the coyote carcass with Fred, promising to be back in a week or so. Fred gets to work.

After the hide and other essentials are carefully removed, Fred takes the remains (a skinned and dressed coyote carcass) out to the dumpster, where he runs into Sammy Chow. Sammy wants to know if he can have the coyote, and Fred declines. WTF do you want with a coyote carcass, Chow? Sammy won't say, and Fred waits until nightfall to dump the coyote. He thinks Sammy is acting a little weird, but these orientals are all a little strange anyway. You can never tell what they're thinking.

When Fred packs up for the night, what should he see but Fred stealing the coyote carcass from the dumpster. Another WTF?! moment.

Fred calls the local constabulary, and they send Deputy Don over. Don and Fred exchange pleasantries, then Fred tells Don what he's seen. Don makes him go through the whole story a few times, then he goes over to see Sammy Chow at the old Chow-Chow Yum-Yum.

When Deputy Don asks Sammy about the coyote, Sammy suddenly develops a problem with the English language. Not so much of a problem, though, because he refuses to allow Deputy Don to search the basement of the place without a warrant.

"You no lookee-lookee blasemen'. You go 'way, come back nex' week. You sabbee?"

Okay, maybe that's a little poetic license, but he did make Deputy Don get a search warrant, which hizzonner Hangin' Harry provided.

Guess what they found in the basement.

Not just the coyote, but raccoon, possum, squirrel, rat... and fido. Several of the carcasses hanging in the basement were local dogs, gone missing. Cats too.

No, I'm not kidding, and no, I haven't been drinking. Yet.

Deputy Don called for back up, and eventually the chief of police and a representative from the Health Department arrived. The Chow-Chow Yum-Yum closed early that day, and Sammy Chow left in bracelets.

Here's where the story gets interesting.

In South Dakota, many men think more of their dogs than they do their wives. As explained to me by one rancher, "Hell, I can get a new wife anytime, but a real good dog is hard to come by." And by another, "If anybody ever shot my dog, there'd be one less no good Commie in this world, I'll tell you that. And there isn't a jury in the entire State of South Dakota that would convict me of anything more than shooting some son-of-a-bitch that deserved it." Followed by a chorus of general approval. "Damned right!" and "I'll sure as hell drink to that!" were the most common.

These old boys are all armed (everyone in South Dakota is issued a gun at birth) so the Chief knew he had to do something or Sammy Chow would finish his days at the end of a rope.

The way the whole thing shook out is that the Chow-Chow Yum-Yum closed for good. Sammy Chow left town in the middle of the night, and stayed out of town. Everyone who knew anything about it was told to keep their yap shut until Sammy and his family got clean away. No forwarding address was filed.

And that, as they say, is that.

So before any of you overly sensitive lefty loons gets your panties in a knot about stereotypes and stray cats, I suggest you realize that it does happen.

Lemme guess: you're a gun owning white guy, consider yourself "christian", have voted for republicans most of your adult life (and I'm guessing... you're over 55?), tend to vote AGAINST public school levies (most of the time, but not all), see no issue at all with the Confederate flag being flown in general, and think that racism is less of a problem than reverse racism.

I am, by the way, a gun owning white guy who knows that I'm a Christian, who has voted for Republicans much more often than Democrats, and who is over 55. I vote against public school levies at all times and see no reason to change, and I believe the Confederate battle standard (the infamous stars and bars) can be legally flown as the owner likes - it's free speech and I have no problem with it, nor should anyone else.

I also believe that there is no such thing as reverse racism; there is only racism, and it isn't confined to white people. There is also discrimination, which is also not confined to white people. I've been the victim of both, and I don't allow it to rent space in my head.

Just to throw a little salt on the wound, I also voted for Trump.

posted by madjack on Jan 02, 2018 at 02:04:33 pm     #   8 people liked this

endcycle posted at 12:48:01 PM on Jan 02, 2018:
gunz1 posted at 12:28:51 PM on Jan 02, 2018:

Maybe they are waiting for the next litter of kittens?

....did you really type that in and hit "post" thinking there was actual humor in there somewhere? Did you, for example, giggle to yourself about the historical stereotype (and the bullshit fear mongering lies that it came from in the first place) and think it was worth the energy that you expended typing those letters in?

Lemme guess: you're a gun owning white guy, consider yourself "christian", have voted for republicans most of your adult life (and I'm guessing... you're over 55?), tend to vote AGAINST public school levies (most of the time, but not all), see no issue at all with the Confederate flag being flown in general, and think that racism is less of a problem than reverse racism.

Says something stereotypical..... You must be this stero-type.... .no hypocrisy here........

posted by In_vin_veritas on Jan 02, 2018 at 02:08:00 pm     #   4 people liked this

right right. my bad, kids, regarding the stereotyping. I was mostly just trying to be snarky and failed to do so in a smart way. I accept and own that. The humor was also pretty boring and below my grade. Slowsol (above) did it much better.

(i shouldn't feed the trolls, either)

Still (and, Madjack's certainly real anecdote notwithstanding) -

https://www.snopes.com/horrors/food/chinese.asp

"This legend is a classic example of xenophobia (fear and hatred of foreigners or that which is foreign). Asian culture is markedly different from Western culture, with language but the first barrier to be hurdled. Customs, religious observances, traditions — all are wildly different from their North American counterparts. As with all xenophobic reactions, that which isn’t the same is vilified. The Asian culinary practice of making a tiny bit of meat stretch to feed a family by cutting it up fine and making it part of a larger dish of vegetables or noodles is transformed by fear into a vehicle for “them” to slip something objectionable into our unwitting stomachs. Likewise, that the Chinese don’t as a rule keep cats and dogs as pets becomes seen as a willingness to plop someone else’s animal companion into the stew pot. Anything for a buck, says this legend, and if in the process one puts over on the white devils, so much the better.

Though the Chinese have been known to dine on cats or dogs in their homeland, the practice is predominant primarily in far-flung regions, and they don’t serve them up on unsuspecting diners in Europe or North America, where these animals are known to enjoy the exalted status of family pets. It is true that dog is more or less routinely consumed in Korea, where it’s seen as a game meat, but even there Western sensibilities are catered to on this issue. When the Olympics were held in Seoul in 1988, every wire service ran stories about dog being one of the dishes that could be ordered in a restaurant there. In response, the South Korean government temporarily shut down more than 400 eateries where dog soup was a staple. It knew visiting cultures would never understand. (Likewise, in 2008 China ordered that none of the 112 officially designated Olympic restaurants in Beijing sell dog meat dishes during the games.)

In North America, few, if any, Chinese or Koreans eat dog. (See our Hound by the Pound page for the story of an elaborate hoax about a Korean-American company approaching animal shelters with an offer to buy excess dogs.) Also in North America, the Vietnamese are tarred with a variation of the Chinese restaurant rumor: according to this version, when a Vietnamese family moves into the neighborhood, all the stray cats disappear. That few, if any, Vietnamese in the U.S. eat cat doesn’t impact this rumor one whit."

posted by endcycle on Jan 02, 2018 at 02:22:12 pm     #   2 people liked this

endcycle posted at 12:48:01 PM on Jan 02, 2018:
gunz1 posted at 12:28:51 PM on Jan 02, 2018:

Maybe they are waiting for the next litter of kittens?

....did you really type that in and hit "post" thinking there was actual humor in there somewhere? Did you, for example, giggle to yourself about the historical stereotype (and the bullshit fear mongering lies that it came from in the first place) and think it was worth the energy that you expended typing those letters in?

Lemme guess: you're a gun owning white guy, consider yourself "christian", have voted for republicans most of your adult life (and I'm guessing... you're over 55?), tend to vote AGAINST public school levies (most of the time, but not all), see no issue at all with the Confederate flag being flown in general, and think that racism is less of a problem than reverse racism.

I am concerned for you as a friend.

posted by justread on Jan 02, 2018 at 02:59:57 pm     #   1 person liked this

There was a Chinese restaurant located across from the expressway entrance/exits on Central. The newly redesigned one. There is a car wash there now.

My husband and I ate there very frequently. They had the best Chinese vegetable soup. Absolutely the best. Then one day we read in the Blade that the restaurant had been permanently shuttered by the health department. Because the sanitarian found a cat carcass in the freezer.

Although the owner protested that the cat carcass was for owner/employee consumption only, the health department didn't budge. Permit revoked permanently.

So, it does happen. And it happened here. But to stereotypically apply that to all Chinese restaurants is poor form,

posted by holland on Jan 02, 2018 at 03:47:21 pm     #  

Yes! An innocuous Chinese restaurant thread devolves into a left vs right debate in ten posts.

Suck it, Mexican restaurants. Suck it.

posted by JoeyGee on Jan 02, 2018 at 04:09:52 pm     #   4 people liked this

justread posted at 02:59:57 PM on Jan 02, 2018:
endcycle posted at 12:48:01 PM on Jan 02, 2018:
gunz1 posted at 12:28:51 PM on Jan 02, 2018:

Maybe they are waiting for the next litter of kittens?

....did you really type that in and hit "post" thinking there was actual humor in there somewhere? Did you, for example, giggle to yourself about the historical stereotype (and the bullshit fear mongering lies that it came from in the first place) and think it was worth the energy that you expended typing those letters in?

Lemme guess: you're a gun owning white guy, consider yourself "christian", have voted for republicans most of your adult life (and I'm guessing... you're over 55?), tend to vote AGAINST public school levies (most of the time, but not all), see no issue at all with the Confederate flag being flown in general, and think that racism is less of a problem than reverse racism.

I am concerned for you as a friend.

I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW

sorry sorry, bad form.

I'm mostly okay. just not enough coffee and a rough start to the work week after a bunch of time off. :)

posted by endcycle on Jan 02, 2018 at 04:39:33 pm     #  

holland posted at 03:47:21 PM on Jan 02, 2018:

There was a Chinese restaurant located across from the expressway entrance/exits on Central. The newly redesigned one. There is a car wash there now.

My husband and I ate there very frequently. They had the best Chinese vegetable soup. Absolutely the best. Then one day we read in the Blade that the restaurant had been permanently shuttered by the health department. Because the sanitarian found a cat carcass in the freezer.

Although the owner protested that the cat carcass was for owner/employee consumption only, the health department didn't budge. Permit revoked permanently.

So, it does happen. And it happened here. But to stereotypically apply that to all Chinese restaurants is poor form,

I'm pretty sure it was called Hing Me Chop Suey. Red, two-story building. I heard the rumor on the bus when I was in school and asked my parents about it. My dad told me it was true, he had represented them in the case and that they were also charged with running a prostitution ring upstairs.

And come on, widely applying stereotypes is the entire point of a huge % of humor. Weird Al has a song called, "Cats in the kettle" for crying out loud.

posted by Columbusguy on Jan 02, 2018 at 04:41:37 pm     #  

Wow that escalated quickly.

posted by taliesin52 on Jan 02, 2018 at 05:21:18 pm     #  

^ that escatlated quickly

posted by justareviewer on Jan 02, 2018 at 06:32:46 pm     #   7 people liked this

There was also a place on Airport HWY near Menards that got busted for CAT.

posted by Molsonator on Jan 02, 2018 at 07:48:33 pm     #  

Molsonator posted at 07:48:33 PM on Jan 02, 2018:

There was also a place on Airport HWY near Menards that got busted for CAT.

Cheers or Airport Lounge?

posted by SensorG on Jan 02, 2018 at 07:56:31 pm     #  

No it was that place next to the old state store place (that sold the license to Krogers) off Hollaway? I think is the road.

posted by Molsonator on Jan 02, 2018 at 08:07:36 pm     #  

Columbusguy posted at 04:41:37 PM on Jan 02, 2018:
holland posted at 03:47:21 PM on Jan 02, 2018:

There was a Chinese restaurant located across from the expressway entrance/exits on Central. The newly redesigned one. There is a car wash there now.

My husband and I ate there very frequently. They had the best Chinese vegetable soup. Absolutely the best. Then one day we read in the Blade that the restaurant had been permanently shuttered by the health department. Because the sanitarian found a cat carcass in the freezer.

Although the owner protested that the cat carcass was for owner/employee consumption only, the health department didn't budge. Permit revoked permanently.

So, it does happen. And it happened here. But to stereotypically apply that to all Chinese restaurants is poor form,

I'm pretty sure it was called Hing Me Chop Suey. Red, two-story building. I heard the rumor on the bus when I was in school and asked my parents about it. My dad told me it was true, he had represented them in the case and that they were also charged with running a prostitution ring upstairs.

And come on, widely applying stereotypes is the entire point of a huge % of humor. Weird Al has a song called, "Cats in the kettle" for crying out loud.

I thought it was on the east side of the expressway, right were Taylor Kia now sits.

I do think it is a bit sad that we have become so politically correct that we can no longer laugh and make jokes. If i see/hear a joke about Republicans, I laugh, because there are some good stereotypical issues that are funny when it comes to our politicians.
Just like there are for dems, and libs, etc.

posted by not_me on Jan 02, 2018 at 09:48:25 pm     #   1 person liked this

Molsonator posted at 08:07:36 PM on Jan 02, 2018:

No it was that place next to the old state store place (that sold the license to Krogers) off Hollaway? I think is the road.

Spicy Tuna? Used to be Fuji or something like that. They own Tea Tree out at Levis now and another family members owns Spicy Tuna.

posted by SensorG on Jan 02, 2018 at 10:22:24 pm     #  

not_me posted at 09:48:25 PM on Jan 02, 2018:
Columbusguy posted at 04:41:37 PM on Jan 02, 2018:
holland posted at 03:47:21 PM on Jan 02, 2018:

There was a Chinese restaurant located across from the expressway entrance/exits on Central. The newly redesigned one. There is a car wash there now.

My husband and I ate there very frequently. They had the best Chinese vegetable soup. Absolutely the best. Then one day we read in the Blade that the restaurant had been permanently shuttered by the health department. Because the sanitarian found a cat carcass in the freezer.

Although the owner protested that the cat carcass was for owner/employee consumption only, the health department didn't budge. Permit revoked permanently.

So, it does happen. And it happened here. But to stereotypically apply that to all Chinese restaurants is poor form,

I'm pretty sure it was called Hing Me Chop Suey. Red, two-story building. I heard the rumor on the bus when I was in school and asked my parents about it. My dad told me it was true, he had represented them in the case and that they were also charged with running a prostitution ring upstairs.

And come on, widely applying stereotypes is the entire point of a huge % of humor. Weird Al has a song called, "Cats in the kettle" for crying out loud.

I thought it was on the east side of the expressway, right were Taylor Kia now sits.

I do think it is a bit sad that we have become so politically correct that we can no longer laugh and make jokes. If i see/hear a joke about Republicans, I laugh, because there are some good stereotypical issues that are funny when it comes to our politicians.
Just like there are for dems, and libs, etc.

You don’t get to make jokes anymore because the minorities that always hated them, are finally treated with some respect. It was always awful for them. Want to hear everyone Jew joke ever? Want to take a guess at what percentage are funny vs mean? When your grandparents best friends had number tattooed on their arms meant the holocaust was a mere lifetime away, but that didn’t stop every idiot from making a gas chamber or oven joke, like they’re the first to come up with it. It was never okay. WASPs just used to get away with it, without any grief.

You can come at me with jokes about my political views, wine snobbery, Star Wars opinion-no problem. If you start on ethnicity, religion, skin color, sexual preference-that’s either being a dick, or not understanding privilege.

Making jokes about Asians eating cats is both offensive to Asians, and to people with a sense of humor. Go look up Ta Nahesi Coates and the “N” word, then we’ll talk.

posted by ahmahler on Jan 02, 2018 at 10:49:55 pm     #   5 people liked this

Danneskjold sits warm and snug in his cabin in Texas Hill Country his Black Jack Cowboy boots are propped up on the whiskey barrel he uses as a footrest. He puffs on his Partagás Lusitania cigar, thumbs the cylinder of his Smith open and checks the bore. He smiles, gives it a little spin and dubs the sound “sweeeet.” He sets the .357 down and reaches over to the laptop and see’s the market has hit new highs. He smiles and reaches over and gives his Donald Trump Bobblehead a little nudge setting the head in motion. He puffs on the stogie and expels a dense fog of smoke. He gazes into the distance warm, content and satisfied. On a whim he checks Toledo Talk. “Hmm, Wei Wei Closed again” he sighs mournfully “I sure miss Szechuan fish.” He scrolls through the comments… “Hmmm, my old nemesis endcycle… let’s see what he has to say… Danneskjold reads, his eyes slowly rolling down endcycles vitriolic stereotyping gender attack… “His chest begins to heave as small giggles turn to loud cackles. His laughter becomes a bellow. He snorts. He begins to cough… his cigar smoke wafting through the air as the Donald bobs… and smiles… and bobs… and smiles….. as "The Donald" bobs and smiles.

(Honestly EC… you shouldn’t have come out of the gate so strong. There’s like 363 days left. You’ll never top that this year, never!)

posted by Danneskjold on Jan 03, 2018 at 12:03:15 am     #   1 person liked this

Danneskjold sits warm and snug in his cabin in Texas Hill Country his Black Jack Cowboy boots are propped up on the whiskey barrel he uses as a footrest. He puffs on his Partagás Lusitania cigar, thumbs the cylinder of his Smith open and checks the bore. He smiles, gives it a little spin and dubs the sound “sweeeet.” He sets the .357 down and reaches over to the laptop and see’s the market has hit new highs. He smiles and reaches over and gives his Donald Trump Bobblehead a little nudge setting the head in motion. He puffs on the stogie and expels a dense fog of smoke. He gazes into the distance warm, content and satisfied. On a whim he checks Toledo Talk. “Hmm, Wei Wei Closed again” he sighs mournfully “I sure miss Szechuan fish.” He scrolls through the comments… “Hmmm, my old nemesis endcycle… let’s see what he has to say… Danneskjold reads, his eyes slowly rolling down endcycles vitriolic stereotyping gender attack… “His chest begins to heave as small giggles turn to loud cackles. His laughter becomes a bellow. He snorts. He begins to cough… his cigar smoke wafting through the air as the Donald bobs… and smiles… and bobs… and smiles….. as "The Donald" bobs and smiles.

(Honestly EC… you shouldn’t have come out of the gate so strong. There’s like 363 days left. You’ll never top that this year, never!)

I'm not sure of the nature of this confrontation, yet I love it just the same. In the words of Billy Madison........"Proceed"....

posted by OneMoreBourbon on Jan 03, 2018 at 01:14:14 am     #  

Like the old man in the sauna at the Jewish Community Center once told me: "Only Catholics would feel guilty for not being Jewish."

posted by justread on Jan 03, 2018 at 07:41:44 am     #   4 people liked this

Go look up Ta Nahesi Coates and the “N” word, then we’ll talk.

I'm trying to remember; are you the one that challenged me to watch a movie and I did, but when I challenged you to watch the Red Pill, you said you didn't need to, or something to that effect?

I'm trying to figure out how to respond to the rest of your mini-rant. Because if you can't differentiate between jewish oven jokes (which I don't think I've ever heard but maybe don't remember because that would be disgusting) and Asian meat choices, there's not a thing I could say to change your mind. From your perspective any joke that pokes fun at any stereotype of a minority is off limits and offensive. I don't look at life that way, I know others who don't either and that includes minorities, and so I'm trying to figure out why your standard should become everyone's standard.

You clearly didn't like my Republican reference, how about jokes about women. I laugh at those too, and I fit in that minority.

posted by not_me on Jan 03, 2018 at 08:25:33 am     #   7 people liked this

justread posted at 07:41:44 AM on Jan 03, 2018:

Like the old man in the sauna at the Jewish Community Center once told me: "Only Catholics would feel guilty for not being Jewish."

There's an interesting shared heritage around guilt that Jews and Catholics share - had a conversation with a good (lapsed) catholic friend that essentially boiled the differences down to this:

He grew up feeling guilty for everything he thought about and, in some cases, did. Growing up Jewish I learned to feel guilty for everything I SHOULD have thought about, and probably should have done.

posted by endcycle on Jan 03, 2018 at 08:29:02 am     #  

"... in the sauna at the Jewish Community Center ..."

The Tim Whatley exercise plan.

I didn't do much. I just sat in the sauna. You know, it was more like a Jewish workout.

posted by jr on Jan 03, 2018 at 08:34:10 am     #   3 people liked this

I'm trying to remember; are you the one that challenged me to watch a movie and I did, but when I challenged you to watch the Red Pill, you said you didn't need to, or something to that effect?
Yes, thank you for watching a movie that explored the effects of the criminal justice system & continued oppression of being black in America since the end of the Civil War, called The 13th. It was nominated for an Oscar for best Documentary last year, won the British Film Award for Best Documentary, Along with Critics Choice Awards, etc.

You did ask me to watch the film, the Red Pill (no nominations). Fortunately, I was already aware of the film. I chose to not watch it. Although, I did read about it. It is about Male oppression.
I did run across this great little review.
https://dailyreview.com.au/red-pill-watched-dont/61240/

The director’s central hypothesis is that, in the present day and age, women have it better than men. It is an argument often made by taking a single example of injustice (for example, a father unfairly losing custody of their child) and insinuating it applies across the board. Or at least is evidence of systematic prejudice directed at my male brethren.

Yeah, let's not dig into this one. Finding injustice to males disingenuous at best.

Now the comparison of the oven jokes and the eating cat jokes-Are they as offensive? Maybe not. What about Jew being cheap? I've heard that joke to my face, a lot, from family (In laws). Is that one ok, even though it makes my blood boil every time I hear it?

Let's jump over the jokes about Saunas. Those are the stereotypical old jewish guys-Sort of a loving goof. when you make that joke, you know those, guys, there's part of them in you, it's relate able. It's also a great reference to a show that understood the nuance of the Jewish experience.

Back to the cheap Jews/ cat in Chinese food-There is a) nothing relate able in it b) both come from a place of disgust of looking down. c) both continue unlikable stereotypes about large group of people.

For a lot of people, especially the over 55 set, the rules changed on them. We yell at my father on a daily basis. I don't expect you to change, and having someone tell you that something you got joy out of, but can't anymore, just raises your ire at liberal snowflakes, but there is a nobility in respect for people you don't understand . You don't have to relate to everything every culture does. And, trust me, the jokes you're eliminating were NEVER funny in the first place.

posted by ahmahler on Jan 03, 2018 at 09:17:44 am     #   1 person liked this

I didn't make a joke about a Jewish guy in a sauna. It was a memory.

posted by justread on Jan 03, 2018 at 09:23:14 am     #  

A rabbit a priest and a used car salesman walked into a bar...

posted by Mariner on Jan 03, 2018 at 09:30:15 am     #  

*rabbi

posted by Mariner on Jan 03, 2018 at 09:30:57 am     #  

I have Doctor who is Jewish and tells the funniest Jewish jokes. Am I supposed to laugh at them or am I promoting stereotypes? Is he racist? Just tell me what the rules are.

To pull this thread together, here is a nice article on "Why Jewish People Eat Chinese Food at Christmas"

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/25/573415894/why-do-jewish-people-eat-chinese-food-on-christmas

posted by Molsonator on Jan 03, 2018 at 09:34:45 am     #   2 people liked this

You did ask me to watch the film, the Red Pill (no nominations). Fortunately, I was already aware of the film. I chose to not watch it.

See, I could have just read the reviews of what you asked me to watch, paid attention to the stuff that would back up my side of the argument, and moved on, but I didn't. I watched it with an open mind. You refuse to do that, so no more movie suggestions from you.

I find the quote you provided about the Red Pill really funny, because that was not the central hypothesis of the documentary, and in fact if you would have watched it, you would have seen the hypothesis that she started out with was the exact opposite to what you quoted.

posted by not_me on Jan 03, 2018 at 09:42:22 am     #   2 people liked this

I am suddenly realizing that the only reason A Christmas Story was funny was because of my white, Christian privilege. I mean... the duck scene alone. Like that's a fair portrayal of 1940s Chinese food. Next year, there will be no A Christmas Story in my house. That's for sure. Might even stop doing Christmas at all. Which brings me to the song "Do they know it's Christmas?" This horrible song is a classic example of cultural imperialism. Imagine being in Africa and listening to the African soft rock station that plays Christmas songs and hearing THAT. Wow. Just wow.

posted by justread on Jan 03, 2018 at 09:51:34 am     #   2 people liked this

_ Just tell me what the rules are._

See, this is the problem I'm having with the direction we are heading. It used to be that the 'reasonable person' standard was applied to conduct, especially in court. Would a 'reasonable person' think X in scenario Y and thus allow for reaction Z. Even in polite society, we use the reasonable person standard in how we conduct ourselves - what action or speech will be accepted by most of the people I am seen/heard by such that I fit in and will not be ostracized. There were pretty clear rules that most people, not all, but most people were able to identify, understand, and apply.

But today, the standard - at least publicly - has shifted to does what I say/do offend any one person and thus if that one person has a different standard than the 'reasonable person', then I am the one that is wrong. It's a ludicrous standard to adhere to. IMO.

posted by not_me on Jan 03, 2018 at 09:51:52 am     #   1 person liked this

Mariner posted at 09:30:15 AM on Jan 03, 2018:

A rabbit a priest and a used car salesman walked into a bar...

Take your anti-woodland creature attitude and get the hell out of my town you racist

posted by slowsol on Jan 03, 2018 at 10:12:37 am     #   3 people liked this

Oh the humanity... now we have rules. What is happening to society?!

White guys are so dense (it's a joke, you shouldn't be offended)-I have a lot of white guys as friends, seriously

Here are the rules-

Off Limits-
Where the punchline is someone else's-Religion, ethnicity, sexual preference, race

Gray area-Fish out of water (the scene in Christmas Story is fine, but you have to be thoughtful in your portrayal). A member of above group making jokes about their own group.

Fine-pretty much everything else

The ramifications are this-You may piss some people off if you tell jokes from the first category. You won't go to jail, you won't be fined. You will probably make some people think less of you. I would advise NOT broadcasting those jokes on the internet.

posted by ahmahler on Jan 03, 2018 at 10:19:53 am     #  

"_ Just tell me what the rules are._"

okay.

1: Try not to be a dick.

2: When someone says "hey, that thing you just said is super offensive to group XY or Z", instead of saying "I WAS JUST KIDDING" or "IT'S FUNNY LIGHTEN UP" try really hard to understand that the pain caused might actually be real and intense. For real. And sure, someone might be a snowflake or whatever, but that snowflake has possibly had to endure a lifetime of "but my Jewish friend makes these jokes" or whatever, and possibly actually isn't thrilled with you. It's up to you to do the mental calculus of "do i care if i hurt someone's feelings?" and move on.

3: When in doubt, see 1.

posted by endcycle on Jan 03, 2018 at 10:31:23 am     #   2 people liked this

Wow....my little joke about a litter of kittens ( which I still find humorous) surely stirred up the pot. By the way, I am over 55, Jewish, a Republican and know how to appreciate a good joke without taking it to he extreme. Lighten up. ...
Didn't mean o offend!

posted by gunz1 on Jan 03, 2018 at 10:37:49 am     #   8 people liked this

Wow....my little joke about a litter of kittens ( which I still find humorous) surely stirred up the pot. By the way, I am over 55, Jewish, a Republican and know how to appreciate a good joke without taking it to he extreme. Lighten up. ...
Didn't mean o offend!

posted by gunz1 on Jan 03, 2018 at 10:37:51 am     #   3 people liked this

My mom had a plant called a Wandering Jew in the 70s. It is all coming back to me now, in terrible waves of guilt and shame.

posted by justread on Jan 03, 2018 at 10:40:54 am     #   1 person liked this

(side note - I have an extensive catalog of Jewish jokes that I grew up hearing from all sorts of people, having grown up as a Jew. They're not funny, often have some sort of mental scar or memory associated for me, but still serve a great purpose. When my dad starts an obviously racist joke, I throw a really solid Holocaust joke at him. He never fails to get offended, and yet... still doesn't get it. SO maybe this is a pointless discussion, actually.)

((side side note: the only time I ever physically assaulted someone was when my old drummer made one too many holocaust jokes at a bar before a show. I went over a table at the bar, through the bassist, and had my hands on his throat with the drummer bent backwards over the bar before our vocalist pulled me off of him. I am not, at all, a violent person. He apologized, we did shots, and he played a great show afterwards. Just a cautionary tale - sometimes, snowflakes snap.))

posted by endcycle on Jan 03, 2018 at 10:41:10 am     #   1 person liked this

Yawn. I am going to go find a Knish and Savarin cup of Coffee.

posted by Molsonator on Jan 03, 2018 at 10:56:19 am     #  

"That's not funny," is, to me, the same as saying a song isn't "good" or a painting isn't "beautiful." Who the hell is anyone to tell someone else what isn't funny?

When I hear, "Jokes about this are off limits" I also think, "Movies about this or that depict that," "Songs that include these themes/language..."

I believe absolutely NOTHING is out-of-bounds when it comes to comedy. It either makes me laugh or it doesn't. No exceptions whatsoever. I especially like it when someone can push the envelope really far (in any direction) and still make me laugh. It lets me know my ability to laugh is still childlike and unfiltered.

I judge a person's character by the content of his/her life, not his/her jokes. I may suffer some social consequences in life for my lack of sensitivity, but not from anyone whose opinion I'd value.

posted by Columbusguy on Jan 03, 2018 at 11:00:54 am     #   2 people liked this

endcycle posted at 10:41:10 AM on Jan 03, 2018:

(side note - I have an extensive catalog of Jewish jokes that I grew up hearing from all sorts of people, having grown up as a Jew. They're not funny, often have some sort of mental scar or memory associated for me, but still serve a great purpose. When my dad starts an obviously racist joke, I throw a really solid Holocaust joke at him. He never fails to get offended, and yet... still doesn't get it. SO maybe this is a pointless discussion, actually.)

((side side note: the only time I ever physically assaulted someone was when my old drummer made one too many holocaust jokes at a bar before a show. I went over a table at the bar, through the bassist, and had my hands on his throat with the drummer bent backwards over the bar before our vocalist pulled me off of him. I am not, at all, a violent person. He apologized, we did shots, and he played a great show afterwards. Just a cautionary tale - sometimes, snowflakes snap.))

Board tape of the show or it never happened.

posted by justread on Jan 03, 2018 at 11:04:10 am     #   2 people liked this

"I have Doctor who is Jewish and tells the funniest Jewish jokes."

More Tim Whatley, the dentist, who told jokes to his patients.

... did you here the one about the rabbi and the farmer's daughter?

Father Curtis, good guy. Oh, which reminds me, did you hear the one about the Pope and Raquel Welch on the lifeboat?

Molsonator, did your doctor convert from Catholicism? Is he Polish?

I believe Whatley converted to Judaism just for the jokes.

Whatley [said] to me, "Hey, I can make Catholic jokes, I used to be Catholic."

Don't you see what Whatley is after? Total joke telling immunity.

He's already got the two big religions covered, if he ever gets Polish citizenship there'll be no stopping him.

posted by jr on Jan 03, 2018 at 11:57:27 am     #  

1: Try not to be a dick.

See, that's the problem. What you think being a 'dick' means is totally different from what I think. So that's no standard or rule at all.

Just by way of example, I think dick is a pretty inappropriate slang word that should not be used in a public forum with a mixed audience. You think it's okay.

posted by not_me on Jan 03, 2018 at 01:20:58 pm     #   4 people liked this

Yahbutt I like rabbits and bunnies. If their cooked properly.

posted by Mariner on Jan 03, 2018 at 01:28:52 pm     #   1 person liked this

Am I still allowed to laugh at Blazing Saddles or do I need to burn my copy?

posted by JoeyGee on Jan 03, 2018 at 02:01:39 pm     #   4 people liked this

A Jewish father was very troubled by the way his son turned out and went to see his rabbi about it.

“Rabbi, I brought him up in the faith, gave him a very expensive Bar Mitzvah and it cost me a fortune to educate him. Then he tells me last week, he’s decided to be a Christian. Rabbi, where did I go wrong?”

The rabbi strokes his beard and says, “Funny you should come to me. I too, brought up my son as a boy of faith, sent him to university and it cost me a fortune and then one day he comes to me and tells me he wants to be a Christian.”

“What did you do?” asked the man of the rabbi.

“I turned to God for the answer,” replied the rabbi.

“What did he say?” asked the man.

He said, “Funny you should come to me...”

posted by madjack on Jan 03, 2018 at 02:56:37 pm     #  

@Columbusguy:

"I judge a person's character by the content of his/her life, not his/her jokes. I may suffer some social consequences in life for my lack of sensitivity, but not from anyone whose opinion I'd value."

A-fucking-men!

posted by Foodie on Jan 03, 2018 at 03:15:25 pm     #   1 person liked this

Jerry: Elaine, the guy's Jewish two days, he's already making Jewish jokes.

Elaine: So what? When someone turns twenty-one, they usually get drunk the first night.

Jerry: Booze is not a religion.

Elaine: Tell that to Mad Jack.

  • ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ *

A guy walks into a bar, orders 12 shots and starts drinking them as fast as he can.

The bartender asks, "Dang, why are you drinking so fast?"

The guy says, "You would be drinking fast, too, if you had what I had."

The bartender asks, "What do you have?"

The guy says, "75 cents."

  • ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ *

A man walks into a bar and orders three beers.

The bartender brings him the three beers, and the man proceeds to alternately sip one, then the other, then the third, until they're gone.

He then orders three more and the bartender says, "Sir, I know you like them cold, so you can start with one, and I'll bring you a fresh one as soon as you're low."

The man says, "You don't understand. I have two brothers, one in Australia and one in the Ireland. We made a vow to each other that every Saturday night, we'd still drink together. So right now, my brothers have three beers, too, and we're drinking together."

The bartender thinks it's a wonderful tradition, and every week he sets up the guy's three beers. Then one week, the man comes in and orders only two. He drinks them and then orders two more. The bartender says sadly, "Knowing your tradition, I'd just like to just say that I'm sorry you've lost a brother."

The man replies, "Oh, my brothers are fine -- I just quit drinking."

  • ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ *

And now, for a few off-color one-liners.

How was copper wire invented? Two Jews fighting over a penny.

Why is it that in Muslim countries Sex Ed amd Drivers ED are NEVER taught on the same day? Because it wears out the camels.

A black guy and a Hispanic guy are in a car. Who's driving? The police.

What's the most confusing day in Harlem? Father's Day.

You hear about the new Jewish car? Yeah, it can stop on a dime and pick it up too.

How did the Pollack break his neck while drinking water? Someone slammed down the toilet seat.

  • What do you call 1 white guy surrounded by 3 black guys?
    A victim
  • What about 5 black guys?
    Coach
  • 10 black guys?
    Quarterback
  • 1000 black guys?
    Warden

Ha!
Ha!Ha!
Ha!Ha!Ha!

I kill me...

posted by madjack on Jan 03, 2018 at 03:17:36 pm     #  

The key to comedy is to afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted.

What do you call one White guy surrounded by three white guys? A family.

...

One White guy surrounded by 1000 White guys? Ottawa Hills/Perrysburg/The Republican Party/Paulding County.

posted by swampprof on Jan 03, 2018 at 03:48:33 pm     #   3 people liked this

oy.

have a nice day, kids.

posted by endcycle on Jan 03, 2018 at 04:09:37 pm     #  

I hear Wei Wei closed again.

posted by gunz1 on Jan 03, 2018 at 05:00:30 pm     #   3 people liked this

My overindulged daughter likes Chinese food. We have stopped at wei weis several times as it was (sort of) on the way home from her school.

I thought the food was good there. However, the last several times we were there, we were the only people there. :-/

That was a good discussion over jokes, etc. I enjoyed the banter. Hopefully at the end of the day, everyone agrees that it was a friendly discussion! As in..."let's go get a beer."

If you don't like discussions, my advice is:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0OnpkDWbeJs

posted by Dappling2 on Jan 03, 2018 at 05:20:15 pm     #  

My overindulged daughter likes Chinese food. We have stopped at wei weis several times as it was (sort of) on the way home from her school.

I thought the food was good there. However, the last several times we were there, we were the only people there. :-/

That was a good discussion over jokes, etc. I enjoyed the banter. Hopefully at the end of the day, everyone agrees that it was a friendly discussion! As in..."let's go get a beer."

If you don't like discussions, my advice is:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0OnpkDWbeJs

posted by Dappling2 on Jan 03, 2018 at 05:20:16 pm     #  

Often it has been said that throughout much of SE Asia that everything with 4 legs possibly could be for dinner except tables and chairs.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jan 03, 2018 at 05:22:54 pm     #   1 person liked this

In_vin_veritas posted at 02:08:00 PM on Jan 02, 2018:
endcycle posted at 12:48:01 PM on Jan 02, 2018:
gunz1 posted at 12:28:51 PM on Jan 02, 2018:

Maybe they are waiting for the next litter of kittens?

....did you really type that in and hit "post" thinking there was actual humor in there somewhere? Did you, for example, giggle to yourself about the historical stereotype (and the bullshit fear mongering lies that it came from in the first place) and think it was worth the energy that you expended typing those letters in?

Lemme guess: you're a gun owning white guy, consider yourself "christian", have voted for republicans most of your adult life (and I'm guessing... you're over 55?), tend to vote AGAINST public school levies (most of the time, but not all), see no issue at all with the Confederate flag being flown in general, and think that racism is less of a problem than reverse racism.

Says something stereotypical..... You must be this stero-type.... .no hypocrisy here........

Hey at least EC didn't include a bunch of all-capped words as he typically does with this bitchy-whiny rants.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jan 03, 2018 at 05:31:29 pm     #  

My favorite Aunt, whom I love to talk to and who has a great sense of humor fell into the modern Femanist trap. In our debates I've tried to point out to her how much HATE her post are filled with that she shares. (Yet... she thinks she is the Champion of kindness and diversity) I do this by changing the religion, gender or a simple political point to any of the posts she shares. I joked about endcycles post but I did get a good laugh at it for exactly that same reason. The people who preach the most about diversity, political correctness and understanding do anything but! Below is a very slightly tweaked EC post with just a few minor modifications. Jumping on the Bandwagon and directing ones inner hate toward a politically correct target to hate is historically dangerous. Get some Jesus Man... Just don't hate at all....

Below is the slightly tweaked EC post...

Lemme guess: you're a Pro-Abortion owning Black Lady, consider yourself "Muslim", have voted for Democrats most of your adult life (and I'm guessing... you're over 55?), tend to vote FOR public school levies (most of the time, but not all), see no issue at all with the Black Lives Matter Flag being flown in general, and think that racism is less of a problem than reverse racism.

posted by Danneskjold on Jan 03, 2018 at 07:37:11 pm     #  

Sooooooo.... Nobody knows why they closed then?

posted by golddustwoman on Jan 03, 2018 at 09:05:59 pm     #   2 people liked this

golddustwoman posted at 09:05:59 PM on Jan 03, 2018:

Sooooooo.... Nobody knows why they closed then?

Owner retired to the Catskills.

posted by Columbusguy on Jan 03, 2018 at 09:47:02 pm     #  

Molsonator posted at 07:48:33 PM on Jan 02, 2018:

There was also a place on Airport HWY near Menards that got busted for CAT.

KFC?

posted by jbtaurus98 on Jan 04, 2018 at 07:07:53 am     #