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Spitzer Building Update?

I love this building. I love the beautiful architecture of it, the gorgeous carving on the outside, and the lobby inside that contained all the shops.

That said, I am so fearful for this building. I drive past it most days, and noticed a lot of moisture behind the windows. Wouldn't that indicate a water leak somewhere? With these temperatures, I'm concerned there are burst pipes.

Does anyone know the status of this place?

created by Anniecski on Jan 12, 2018 at 03:05:57 pm     Comments: 12

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It's still owned by the out of town deadbeat Mr. Ergur

posted by upso on Jan 12, 2018 at 03:19:21 pm     #  

My dad worked there when I was a kid and I spent a decent amount of time with free run and a simple "stay out of trouble" in the early 80's.

I ask him about it sometimes and he just frowns and shakes his head, so I assume there haven't been any glimpses of hope.

posted by Columbusguy on Jan 12, 2018 at 03:34:10 pm     #  

The city has tried to get the building away from Ergur on at least two occasions, but both times, someone has come forward to pay off all of his unpaid taxes on the property. Dude is a total pipe dreaming scam artist. He made a powerpoint presentation back in 2012-ish, to try and get investors out in Cali, and it looked like something I would have made in computer class my sophomore year in high school, both in digital ability as well as substance.

posted by Johio83 on Jan 12, 2018 at 03:48:16 pm     #  

Actually, I should amend that. He's either a scam artist, or a pipe dreamer.

posted by Johio83 on Jan 12, 2018 at 03:49:57 pm     #  

He's a dirtbag

posted by upso on Jan 12, 2018 at 05:37:33 pm     #  

Upso sees the good in everyone. :)

It's just that Ergur doesn't have any good. :(

posted by justread on Jan 13, 2018 at 04:55:05 am     #   1 person liked this

Are there no legal maneuvers the city can take about his ownership?

posted by ckbeats21 on Jan 13, 2018 at 08:43:27 am     #  

There was an issue a few years ago about fire systems not being kept up, but I believe he fixed the issue after they pressed him about it. Outside of unpaid taxes or public safety concerns, the city doesn't have any leverage to take someone's property away. (Short of eminent domain, which would be pretty impossible to argue in this situation)

posted by Johio83 on Jan 13, 2018 at 09:54:39 am     #  

Who is loaning Ergur the cash to pay the tayes? If he has the cash why not pay the taxes on the due date instead of waiting and paying all these penalties

posted by classylady on Jan 13, 2018 at 10:38:26 am     #  

That's the question a lot of people have been asking. Presumably someone out in Cali, but who knows.

posted by Johio83 on Jan 13, 2018 at 10:42:47 am     #  

What is the inside of the building like? I heard that there was a significant water break several years ago, which then froze. How significant was that damage.

Also, what is the general state of the interior - has much of the upper level office space seen significant renovation since the 1980s?

My sense is that the building needs an expensive, complete system renovation to be a viable space...anyone know if that's so?

posted by swampprof on Jan 13, 2018 at 04:24:08 pm     #  

I had a office in the Spitzer for a time shortly before the building closed.

Office spaces were hit and miss but all of them could use renovation. Like... a lot of wood panelling, and very dated, offices used window A/C units, etc. But then you have the amazing marble hallways, stairways, and all the amazing details.

Someone could really take advantage of the pros and turn it into another Downtown gem. It's just going to take $$$$.

posted by toledolen_ on Jan 13, 2018 at 05:29:12 pm     #   1 person liked this