Why Don't Black People Like To Get Out Of The Road?

This should bring plenty cries of racism. I find that depending on the neighborhood, it's both young black, white, hispanic, etc. It doesn't matter what race, teenaged kids seem to believe that they own the road. They will not move.
I recently got into an argument and confrontation over this very issue with a kid that would not move from the street. If it is going to take an adult going to jail for fighting with a kid under 18 in order to change their attitude, then so be it. If the parents won't parent and teach them right from wrong, maybe getting smacked around will.

Hit them. If they have no respect for their own lives, I don't either.

I really don't mean this to be racists. I encounter plenty of black youth who are respectful and plenty of whites who are not. However, it seem myself and people I know have particular had this problem at it happens to be black kids. I'm not trying to be racists...but, I can't change the fact that this is the primary source.

I've seen this in all kinds of teenagers, not just black kids. It's that youthful insolence and expression of misguided braggadocio that shows up in annoying (to adults) ways.

It's not worth getting into a direct confrontation about, especially when it happens in your own neighborhood. The twits will just vandalize your car or house in the middle of the night.

Of course, if you are forced to the side of the road, there's always the chance of timing your car's entrance into a deep puddle...

I myself have had a couple of years of aggravation from what I'll call young punks. I have honestly tried to avoid any confrontation and look the other way, but enough is enough. I've reached my limit of the police telling me that they can't do anything, and enough of disrespectful punks telling me to go f#$% myself.
It may sound stupid to those who haven't been in my shoes, but I've had enough. If they are getting a thrill or satisfaction from the fact that they can get away with it because they'll threaten a lawsuit or know that adults won't get involved, they have a little surprise coming. I'm not looking for trouble, but I will not put up with it anymore. Not in my own neighborhood.

I can't believe I got called a racist for a simple comment I made about "these people" (referring to Dems)
http://www.toledotalk.com/cgi-bin/tt.pl/article/24483/Sorry_Charlie
but this one gets a free pass.

Wow. (shaking me head)

I had this situation happen to me the other day. The sad thing is, it is so common it makes good hearted, caring people, want to run the little punks down. No, striking a kid in the road is not worth the insult the disrespect brings, but it is the primal reaction we sometimes have.

I think I will begin carrying a very soft, stuffed baseball bat or other long appendage, and just reach out past my mirror and hit the little bastards next time.

Yes, you are likely to see TAHL in the paper for this one.

TAHL

Impeding traffic, loitering, inciting, disorderly conduct....there's a slew of things to book 'em on.

"Gee, Officer, they were walking down the middle of the street and kept looking back at me. I honked my horn and nicely asked them to move aside, but then they surrounded the car and threatened to do great bodily harm. I was in fear of my life and safety, and I guess in my panic to escape I accidently ran those 2 boys down."

Point and laugh. Rinse and repeat. They bein all funnies for you.

"I can't believe I got called a racist for a simple comment I made about "these people..."

That is a seriously valid point. Mike, care to comment since you're the one who made the allegation and are letting this one slide?

First of all your comment shows the level of your intelligence. Secondly I live in Sylvania and I have teenage white kids who think the road is their skateboard park, so race really doesn't enter in to it. Children live what they learn from their parents. If they are not taught any better than to get out of the way when a car is coming then they won't. The reason we have disrespectful teens is the fact that they have disrespectful parents, and they come in every ethnicity.

SillyWabbit, you are a useless twit. No one called you a racist, though I did question your use of the ambiguous term "those people." I asked for a clarification, you gave one, and then you launched into a multiple-post trolling tirade, calling me an "arrogant fuckstick," a racist, small-minded, and other epithets I am to busy and too tired to dig up.

I addressed the racial aspects of Kozz's claim, and dismissed his assertion that black kids are more likely than white kids to stand in the road.

Besides - I know Kooz in the real world, and I don't believe him to be a racist - maybe too quick with his words, but not a racist. You I do not know, at least beyond your idiotic ramblings and obsessive posting and reposting of videos you find "funny," but which many others find annoying or offensive.

As far as I am concerned, you are nothing more than a goofy Internet name, so there is no "benefit of the doubt" I can give you. And frankly - I hope you stay only an Internet name - your paranoia and borderline sociopathy are a bit troubling.

Finally - I am working seven part-time jobs (yes, seven), and there is no way I can spend my time answering every comment or post on this or any other site. My silence on a given topic has much more to do with the fact that I am busy as hell, not that I "agree," "disagree," or give half of a sheeeaatttt about every thread.

PS, Silly Wabbit: STFU. That is all.

I see this a lot over in my neighborhood (Walbridge and the streets that cross it). It could be related to the "poor" sidewalks we have (in some cases litter blocks the sidewalk), or the attitude of the kids (although I've seen middle-aged people using the road as a thoroughfare). But when I went to pick up a friend who lives on Caledonia (a residential street that parallels Front Street) I came across something I had never seen before: the street allows parking on both sides so it is too narrow to allow one car to pass another but that wasn't the problem. I encountered a group of young people (mostly white) walking arm-in-arm toward me. I stopped and they parted when they came to the front of my car, and then joined arms again after they passed. Fortunately, I am very patient but I seem to waste a lot of time making allowance for "pedestrians" on roadways.

Miiiikey -

"My silence on a given topic has much more to do with the fact that I am busy as hell, not that I "agree," "disagree," or give half of a sheeeaatttt about every thread."

SW still has a point, because you WERE NOT silent on this post, you commented on both, which is why you were, justly, questioned.

Billy, thanks for coming to my defense. It's okay though. I'm just a useless twit. Mike's a dick. I'll take twit over dick any day.

(mantra to self)

Ignore the troll...ignore the troll...ignore the troll...

Back to the question-it's a social thing. Like waiting to get up to the cash register at the store, and then looking in their pockets and wallets for the money, and backing the line up. It's a way to make people notice the situation.

"it's a social thing"

You seriously believe that? because our street is very near Whitmer HS, and the ONLY kids that walk to the side of the road instead in the middle are the BLACK kids who live next door. They behave themselves because their parents (note the plural of the word, muy importante) would give them shit if they didnt!

As far as the cash register scenario, I see a whole heck of a lot more older WHITE chicks doing that than I do black teens, so maybe it's a red-hat societal thing. And yes, I'd like to pelt them with candy bars from the impulse section when they do that.

Some teens are disrespectful because their parents lacked the ability to teach them right from wrong or correct them when they misbehave. To deal with a disrespectful teenager or pre-teen you must treat them with respect. If you treat them with respect, they'll treat you with respect.

Being respectful is one of the most effective tools in building positive relationships with others. Without respect there is nothing. There's a useful article here on How to Deal with Disrespectful Teenagers.

weird bump, and weird first post.

I use to keep an air horn in my car...one of those little hand held ones. When I drove past these teens (regardless of race) ...I use to blast them with my hand held air horn :D

It was great.

Think it's an age thing and not racial. Have seen this a lot around college campuses. Many times I've tried driving to class only to be held up because someone happily stopped in the middle of the road to look back and talk to a friend.

Dig OK's air horn idea lol, that gave me a good laugh.

that is correct... it is all about teaching respect from an early age.

the problem is by the time central city kids become teenagers they have seen their parents, friends and themselves disrespected by the rest of the world that they see a need to stand up and say "yes, i am here - you discriminate against my parents, leave me with usually the worst of teachers/schools, without the city services other parts of town do have, and little prospect of succeeding in life - but yes, here i am"

but the teaching of respect has to occur at all socio-economic levels and respect needs to flow in both direction starting with especially those of us in the middle class. there are a handful of all kids who cause serious trouble but they almost always live among the working poor. the working poor are most often the victims of their crimes AND the working poor get painted with the broad brush of disrespect that only the criminals deserve.

understand the actions of those who walk in the road way; often they have been through things no child should have to experience.

upso - i would guess that jennypitt might be a grad student or marketer who had an interest in the linked web site

That was my thought re: jp's post.

The kids who stand in the middle of the road are the same ones who talk back in class and generally defy school rules. I have a relative who has been teaching elementary for 35 years in the Portsmouth, Ohio school system. I asked her recently what were the biggest changes she has seen in her career. According to her they are: 1. technology; 2. Disrespectful, lazy, spoiled children and the parents who foster that behaviour. She said that many of the parents feel that elementary school children should not have any homework!

This is in a southern Ohio, conservative, religious, overwhelmingly white school district. It does not bode well for the country's future.

Teachers are too often villainized...when really its the kids and parents to blame. Yet we want to base teacher pay off the performance of students like these kids...

If I ever even thought about walking in the middle of the street obstructing traffic or disrespecting my elders I would have gotten a butt beating. I'm 34 now and if I have a slip of the tongue in front of one of my elders my mom will still slap me upside the head.

I'll bet you have a good work ethic as well, ifrost. I had a summer job last year. I, a senoir citizen, consistently out worked my 20 yr old counterparts - easily.

Yeah most kids now a days are just plain lazy. One perk to being a painter is I get to stay in shape from being up and down ladders all day and I get a great tan lol.

What gets me are the people (all races), that I personally call "trashy people" no matter the race, its the people who have a poverty mindset, who walk in the middle of the road with BABY STROLLERS! I mean, come on people. What I personally do (except for instances where there are strollers) is SPEED THE HECK UP AND LAY ON THE HORN! They literally run like cockroaches. Just my take on it. Scare the heck out of them.

Sounds like a risky and immature way to handle the situation.

If you actually live in a neighborhood with real gangs and like-minded people, speeding up, sounding air horns, or attempting to hit people walking in the street is a quick way to find yourself with a real bee hive on your lap.

It's ridiculous behavior and police should start hauling teens and young adults to the county jail for this behavior.

If these issues are the biggest things you have to worry about in your neighborhood, sounds like a nice place to live.

Overheard at church:

"I don't know what's wrong with my son. He just doesn't act like he has good sense!"

"Yeah? What did he do this time?"

"Well... he was outside running around without any shoes on, playing ball or something. I've told him to wear his shoes - he knows better than that."

"Huh. How old is he?"

"He's twelve. You'd think he'd know better by now."

"And that's it?"

"Yeah, that's it. Isn't that enough?"

"So... he hasn't been expelled from school, right?"

"No! Of course not!"

"And his grades are okay?"

"Well, he got an A minus in English, but that's because he won't pay attention in class. I keep telling him - "

"And he hasn't gotten a girl pregnant?"

"What?!"

"Well has he?"

Silence, with wide open eyes and mouth.

"He doesn't belong to a gang, he isn't on the corner selling drugs, he hasn't shot anyone..."

"No!"

"No. I see. So, why did you say the world was ending?"

Gunning a pan head at a full throttle roar makes everyone jump, even the slow movers with pants around their thighs and who look like B O's , sons !

I posted earlier today about I may be preparing a "REALLY BIG CAN OF "PAY YOUR ASS BACK" on the thieves living in the "ALTON ST"NEW HOME AREA. AND ALL THESE POSTS sounds very similar to my "SO CALLED RANTINGS" ACORDING TO A "LILLY ASS MEMBER" CALLED "HOOPS"! PEOPLE WHO STICK UP FOR THESE LITTLE ASSHOLES "MAKE ME WANT TO VOMIT"!!

enjoyeverysandwich: I really don't buy that argument. I'm from a broken home in rural WV one of the poorest places in our country. Yet few if any of the people I grew up acted like that. If anything you use your rough upbringing as fuel to better yourself from your parents position, not use it as an excuse to continue it.

Then again I might be an oddity, and I respect your opinion.

"INC" I to am from a broken home and from WVA,a long line of "Coal Miners" and also descended from relatives involved in the incident's at "MATWAN WVA" where people gave back a 55 gallon barrel of "whoop-ass or "Pay yr ass back" on people who weren't very nice
"FACE TO FACE"!

If anyone wants to know what I'm talking about just look up the move called "MATWAN"..

That's like me saying that I am a Toldoan from a long line of people from Toldo. Leaving out the "E" doesn't add to my credibility.

jr - I "apologize" for "screwing up" the formatting on this "thread" after I "posted" my "Chris Farley" pic... perhaps you can "fix it"?

This is all part of the Mayan Calendar forecast. Toledo Talk is out of whack!

#JR - I swear I will pay you to remove this thread, or at least change the title, it makes me mad every time I see it at the top of the page.

Then again I might be an oddity...

No, you are an oddity. Think about it for a minute. If you were the norm, the number of broken, dysfunctional homes in WV would be practically non-existent. See?

...it makes me mad every time I see it at the top of the page.

Don't let 'em rent space in your head.

http://hamptonroads.com.nyud.net/2012/05/beating-church-and-brambleton

You have to question the thoughts of a person who jumps out of a car in that scenario, thinking anything but an ass-kicking will happen.

Attack my car with my family in it and i'm hitting the petrol. Too bad, so sad if you become a speed bump.

Yeah, at the rate this guy is going, he will never be able to enjoy living the life of a coward.

You guys saw that one as well as I. Here's a link: A beating at Church and Brambleton.

I don't know what was going on between his ears either. I think it's likely this fool graduated from either Washington or maybe Eastern Connecticut, drinks white wine by the thimbleful and hasn't been in a fight since fourth grade. He and his equally served domestic partner firmly believe in leaving the guns to the professionals and think that 9-1-1 really will save you from the bad guys. If you get him into a conversation you'll quickly discover the rapier wit and razor sharp intellect of an engine block.

He's lucky the bad guys didn't take his pants and run them up a flag pole.