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Who is gonna vote yes for funding COSI again?

created by Linecrosser on Oct 24, 2008 at 02:13:32 pm     Comments: 41

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Me.

posted by Ryan on Oct 24, 2008 at 02:14:00 pm     #  

Did.

posted by holland on Oct 24, 2008 at 02:19:19 pm     #  

HELL NO!

posted by UM on Oct 24, 2008 at 02:19:52 pm     #  

NO! NO! NO! Hopefully they'll understand the true meaning of "Three strikes and your OUT" on November 4th!

posted by justsimplyholly on Oct 24, 2008 at 02:23:10 pm     #  

Can I start a business and when I can't make a profit try and guilt the tax payers into funding me too?

posted by JackRB on Oct 24, 2008 at 03:09:57 pm     #  

Give it a go.

posted by Ryan on Oct 24, 2008 at 03:15:16 pm     #  

And how many of those voting 'Yes' are property owners?

posted by GraphicsGuy on Oct 24, 2008 at 03:21:12 pm     #  

noooooooooooooooo,
Please let that financial bottomless pit die already.

posted by hockeyfan on Oct 24, 2008 at 03:30:57 pm     #  

Me.

posted by Ryan on Oct 24, 2008 at 03:31:13 pm     #  

I'm a multiple parcels property tax paying owner. I'll feel the sting of the added tax as much as anyone will. I tend to support activities which enrich children.

posted by holland on Oct 24, 2008 at 03:36:13 pm     #  

Vote Yes and yes I'm a property owner...

posted by SensorG on Oct 24, 2008 at 03:40:48 pm     #  

The youth of Toledo would be enriched if they had decent text books

posted by UM on Oct 24, 2008 at 03:52:54 pm     #  

vote yes/property owner

posted by thetoledowire_com on Oct 24, 2008 at 03:58:02 pm     #  

The ads are soooooo misleading. This should not even be up again.

No

I wonder if they will leave my "vote no on 37" sign on Anthony Wayne Trail?

posted by Molsonator on Oct 24, 2008 at 04:14:34 pm     #  

As I progressed thru elementary and 'middle school' our teachers taught science. Once in high school, we had biology, anatomy/physiology and chemistry. I've got 3 schoolmates that became doctors, 1 that's a chemist, another that's a biologist and one that was a pharmacist. (Well....okay...he didn't exactly have his license!)

Ah, the good old days, but since the school system doesn't teach the sciences anymore, I'll vote for COSI.

Wait....hold on........this just in: They are STILL teaching science in grades 1~12!

Department of Redundancy Department!

posted by GraphicsGuy on Oct 24, 2008 at 04:31:20 pm     #  

Using that logic let’s stop supporting the zoo, the museum, the parks – all of which can be read about in text books. Heck- Jack Hanna could even drop by with a snake or two every now and again.

posted by Ryan on Oct 24, 2008 at 04:36:41 pm     #  

This COSI deal should go down in defeat. Oh they had some neat stuff when it was working, but I doubt if anyone was influenced toward Engineering due to visiting there and I doubt if any businesses were attracted to Toledo because of it. It's in a poor location anyway. Maybe they should just charge more, you would find out real quick just how valuable people realy think it is.

posted by AmericanPie on Oct 24, 2008 at 04:37:39 pm     #  

Curious if anyone knows what kind of salaries are paid to COSI execs and others within the organization? A quick search didn't yield any results.

posted by UM on Oct 24, 2008 at 04:45:23 pm     #  

no

posted by jdmsbyrd on Oct 24, 2008 at 05:20:00 pm     #  

Most of the workers are volunteers. Not sure about the execs. I am split about this one.

posted by hunkytownsausage on Oct 24, 2008 at 05:40:13 pm     #  

NO!

posted by Elmo on Oct 24, 2008 at 05:59:07 pm     #  

If I could vote no I would. But since I dont live in Toledo I cant vote on that one. But if I were a Toledoan, I would only vote for it if they moved it to a location people might actually want to go to visit it.

posted by swantucky on Oct 24, 2008 at 06:54:25 pm     #  

NO

posted by KraZyKat on Oct 24, 2008 at 07:31:24 pm     #  

NO

posted by CharlieA-Z on Oct 24, 2008 at 07:40:46 pm     #  

The people that run COSI have already demonstrated that they can not turn a profit at their current location. Why would anyone vote for giving them more money to lose?

posted by muddyriverduck on Oct 24, 2008 at 08:47:02 pm     #  

Cost
Of
Stupid
Idea

posted by justareviewer on Oct 24, 2008 at 11:39:19 pm     #  

I am voting YES. Anyhting that benefits the education of the kids and could even attract one class from anywhere outside of Toledo is a good thing. Toledoans should support it. and yes, I'm a homeowner. VOTE YES FOR THAT AND TPS... OUR SCHOOLS CAN'T IMPROVE UNLESS YOU GET INVOLVED, SO IF YOU'RE NOT INVOLVED DON'T BITCH!

posted by jim30529 on Oct 25, 2008 at 01:04:22 am     #  

I won't vote for it. And will continue to vote NO until they get someone who will run it properly.

posted by Newbie on Oct 25, 2008 at 12:55:11 pm     #  

According to the AREIS tax levy estimator, the COSI levy would add $12 to my annual property tax.

I'll vote yes - would be nice to keep something positive for the kids of our community. $12 is worth it to me.

posted by mom2 on Oct 25, 2008 at 05:02:17 pm     #  

I was JUST talking to my mother about that. I said "If it's the same amount that I can drink away in a half hour at a bar I think I can give it to them".

No brainer.

posted by Ryan on Oct 25, 2008 at 06:34:03 pm     #  

I am a former COSI employee. Take it from me, the executives that have kept their jobs at COSI are very well paid! They are the same "leaders" that caused COSI's demise. They do not have a viable business plan. Given their history, how can they be trusted?Also, it was shown that visitors from out of the city did NOT spend any money at neighboring businesses. Voters will be throwing away tax dollars by supporting this levy. I wish I still lived in Toledo, so I could vote against the levy!

posted by beenthere on Oct 26, 2008 at 11:22:07 am     #  

Are you Bill Booth?

posted by Ryan on Oct 26, 2008 at 11:39:18 am     #  

No, I am not Bill Booth. I have nothing but respect for Bill Booth and learned a lot working with him. Bill trusted the wrong people, and when the chips were down they turned against him. Bill was trying to turn the place around when the board brought in a consultant (at a very high fee), who quickly took things from bad to worse. COSI Toledo is a case study in how NOT to run a not for profit. Why would anyone give them more money?

posted by beenthere on Oct 26, 2008 at 03:43:27 pm     #  

I think it's pretty clear that when a board of directors takes the drastic action of removing the CEO/President of an organization, it's not because he is "trying to turn the place around." Typically you bring in someone new to "turn the place around"

posted by bassam on Oct 26, 2008 at 04:32:16 pm     #  

And, I guess we know how well that worked.....

posted by beenthere on Oct 26, 2008 at 05:56:35 pm     #  

I am voting for Cosi because I miss that salt water taffy the gift shop sold.

posted by Ryan on Oct 26, 2008 at 06:06:06 pm     #  

I am voting against Cosi because of:
- lack of fiscal management
- old and broken displays
- the school children visitors add nothing to our local economy
- the waste of valuable real estate
- I was able to learn why the sun sets in the evening and the leaves turn red in fall in 3rd grade science class. We did not have COSI back then. Oh...when I asked my parents science questions like what is being spewed on the radio ads, they knew the answers. Guess what...they didn't have COSI either
- It was already voted down twice. The voters have spoken. Let it rest!
- Carty endorsed it
- The Blade endorsed it
- Jon the Stain endorsed it
- you can buy the Salt water Taffy at Andersons

posted by KraZyKat on Oct 26, 2008 at 08:36:39 pm     #  

BS - The Andersons does not carry the cherry /vanilla flavor!

posted by Ryan on Oct 26, 2008 at 10:12:08 pm     #  

What about all the other empty buildings that are downtown? U say valuable realestate, well what else can you use that building for... work with commisioners to get something going, not just say it's a waste... it's more of a waste empty... COSI IS AN ATTRACTION... and 5-15 dollars a month.. you spend that in cigarettes, beer, that extra snack when u shop, whatever u spend it on... it does not benefit anyone but you... why not spend it on the kids!?

posted by jim30529 on Oct 26, 2008 at 11:36:40 pm     #  

I will vote no, and no im not a property owner, even though that has no bearing what-so-ever, i may not pay property taxes directly but i can ASSURE you it comes from my rent. So please don't assume that renters will ruin it for all you proerty owners becasue our rent will go up, just as fast as your tax bill.

posted by tm2 on Oct 27, 2008 at 10:53:57 am     #  

I voted no. Initially I was for it because I believe in having educational centers available but the fact is, it was the same thing every visit. The only exhibit change I remember was a Sherlock Holmes display they had once. I am not against paying an extra five bucks for a decent science center but COSI royally sucked.

posted by inga on Oct 27, 2008 at 01:15:17 pm     #  

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