Federal Judge rules Ohio homeless voters may list park benches as addresses

dumpsters next, followed by post office lobbies and the public library.

Will the Frogman get to vote? http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=frogman+aint+got+no+home&search_type=&aq=1&oq=frogman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvU9Ex3PPDs

Now obviously, the homeless should be allowed to vote, and I say this because because if things get any worse, I may be joining their ranks. However, as a voting block, they aren't entirely reliable and haven't swung many elections. This may be largely due to their tendency to urinate on the voting machine rather than vote on them. Maybe I'm wrong and they are this year's Nascar Dads or Security Moms but neither candidate has a stated opinion on pork-and-bean subsides or decriminalization of shopping cart theft so I doubt it.

I have a feeling this will open up the door to some big problems in the future.

If we're not supposed to require ID to vote and now people can register a park bench as an address, how do you "prove" you're a resident?

Are there safeguards in place to prevent voter fraud? With Ohio tending to be a key state in elections, is there a way to prevent people from committing voter fraud? (I'm thinking people from outside Ohio registering here to vote as "homeless," etc.)

duh, you think? (sarcasm intended)

Here is a creative approach to redistribution of wealth (this was not authored by me, but I liked it):

Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign the read "Vote Obama, I need the money." I laughed.

Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed--just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

OR IS IT.........REDISTRIBUTION OF SOMEONE ELSE'S WEALTH IS A GREAT IDEA..............or just a fool's political game !!

Are there safeguards in place to prevent voter fraud? With Ohio tending to be a key state in elections, is there a way to prevent people from committing voter fraud?

"Voter fraud is a myth".
ACORN website...

Billy,iIf you think that the homeless will be given check from the government under the Obama plan you are wrong. These ideas/fears come right out of thin air. They have no basis in fact whatsoever and that story about the waiter is made up. Anyone can see that.

On the homeless voter fraud, it would take tens of thousands of fake votes to make a substantial difference in the outcome of an election. That kind of "homeless" turnout would not go undetected. There are a lot of better ways to rig an election.

FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR - McCain/Palin '08

Voter fraud is extremely rare in reality. More concerning to me is the attempt to systematically disenfranchise (mostly Democratic) voters by posting flyers warning out of state college kids that they will lose their student loans if they vote where they go to school or posting stuff in minority neighborhoods that the election is on Wednesday instead of Tuesday. Strangely, as concerned as Sean Hannity seems to be about ACORN and such, he never mentions these incidents.

http://washingtonindependent.com/15217/voter-fraud

the poor shouldn't get to vote, that's the republican message.

Ask a homeless guy tonight on your way home from work - "Who's running for president?" and "What day is today?" and see if he can answer either question coherently.

Sad, but likely.

I'd be surprised if YOU could answer those questions coherently.

There are people out there that still think they can walk in to the voting booth (do they have those anymore ?) and vote for Hillary Clinton.

Several weeks ago, a guy at work told me he was going to vote for Hillary, instead of Obama or McCain. --True story...

Wabbit, I have to laugh at the restaurant story because just the other day there was someone on a movie forum board swearing that story was theirs.

What a small, small world the internets make it all.

You can write-in whoever you like.

Ryan, I specifically wrote in my version that I did NOT author it. hello?

Toledolen - fuck you

Well – hello there and good day to you.

I was not claiming you said you wrote it, I read that you had not – it was just amusing to me that we both have come across different forms of that one story. Just shows you the power of the internet.

SillyWabbit, no thanks.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

OR IS IT.........REDISTRIBUTION OF SOMEONE ELSE'S WEALTH IS A GREAT IDEA..............or just a fool's political game !!

Wow, waiters make $250K a year nowadays? Thanks for the dumb story

Just to be clear - when I asked the question, I was considering the possibility of fraud from both sides. I'm not a Republican.

(Actually, I've never voted for a Republican presidential candidate in my life. So far, anyhow. Its true that I had been leaning towards McCain for this election, but I'm still considering the possibility of voting for a third party candidate.)

Mom2, agreed.

Too many grasping at media driven straws.

To me, Obama's statement to that Joe character meant that he was in favor of creating opportunities for more people to demonstrate personal responsibility and work ethic thus sharing in the attainment of their own money and even wealth. Too many immediately heard this to mean "redistribution" as in, take from a have and give to a have not whom is not willing to put forth the efforts and responsibility for personal gain.

The classic conservative would want to limit the government's power to do so and the extent of how much and how it is to be used as well as defend all citizen's right to vote.

They would continue a tradition of philanthropy and strive to preserve the best parts of culture and pass it on to ensuing generations and not be quick to endorse the current second-rate ticket.

Mom2, if you have always voted for a Democrat for president one could assume you follow the basic Dem ideology. What specifically about Baracks ideas do you not like that are so beyond what any other Dem has had to offer in the past? And what about McCains stance is so in line with those previous Dems that it would make you want to possibly vote for him?

Or have you personally just changed over the last few years?

Just curious.

Good question, Ryan.

During Bill Clinton's first campaign, I was a college freshman. I was fairly liberal back then, like many (most?) young college students. I did happily vote twice for Clinton.

Over the years, I started to move more towards the center. I did vote for Gore in 2000. However, my political ideology had already started to shift a little at that point. If there had been an acceptable Republican candidate in 2000, I may have voted differently. My vote for Gore was not a terribly enthusiastic one.

2004? Ugh. I almost considered skipping the Presidential election entirely.

To answer your question, I'd say that I've changed a lot over the past decade (rather than just in the past few years). I still consider myself somewhat in the middle politically, but I probably lean more towards the right...slightly.

I fully expect Obama to win though. My 18 year old self would be doing cartwheels about that. lol

Thanks for the response, I truly was curious and not trying to provoke.

All I can say at this point is that no matter who wins I truly feel that we will be in a better place in 4 years than we are now. But I would be lying if I didn’t say that I am hoping for an Obama win and the mere thought takes me places. November 4th will be a very emotional day for America.

Voting has always been an inside joke.

It's not the people who vote who win ever. It's the people running/buying the election who win. I think there's a quote loosely attributed to stalin about this.
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You can always vote for Hitler to enact Godwin's mundane law.