As posted on the Blade website, the recall carty petitions may not be valid due to a technicality. All that work, time, money, and effort may have been all for naught.
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Unbelievable. You would think with all those intellegent professionals in that TBT group, someone would have gone over the details of the petition process. I've seen long time candidates seeking re-election not getting on the ballot because there was a minor problem with their petitions, i.e., failure to sign or initial a petition. They rarely are given a break, though it does sometimes happen.
Yeah, hilarious. They love to bash Carty, (wish is about as difficult as stomping tadpoles) about the job he's doing.
But they couldn't even do the recall petitions correctly.
Someone came by our house asking me to sign but I declined. The timing issue with him only leaving 3 mos. before the end of his term just seems terribly pointless to me.
all those intelligent professionals in that TBT group
LOL what??? Intelligent? Professionals?
There's talk on SwampBubbles that the State law might not matter, as the recall requirements are in the city charter.
You can bet there will be legal challenges on both sides, which makes the issue a moot point since Carty only has a few months left to his term, anyway. IMHO, TBT was a waste of money.
Does anyone know who is in charge of this fiasco?
Which fiasco? The fact that the city is over $20 million in the hole. The mayor, city council, and a good gaggle of Toledoans would be in charge of that fiasco.
I just heard that the taxpayers pay the extra people needed to verify these petitions. Up until now, the TBT was just a nuisance, now they are adding to the budget problems for a mere 3 month early exit of the mayor.
Please stop the insanity.
They would have done much better collecting money at the street corner and giving out Vote buttons.
The TBT people need to just let it go and work towards a substantial goal, that being getting a good person elected. Don't waste time fighting, put your effort into what will really matter. Carty won't be re-elected if he does run, so it would be best to find a good choice for the city (personally I'm not thrilled with any of the current candidates).
As for the cost of the recall, I heard that it is costing the county, not the city, to validate the petitions. If I lived outside of the city I would be upset with this as it would be my tax money paying for a purely city issue. I don't know if there is a deal with the city to pay it back or something, but it doesn't feel right that in a time of budget problems all over a group is willing to spend any tax money on such a short term issue (3 months, come on).
Doubtful there is any deal for the city to pay the county back. Boards of Election are county entities. I would say certifying petitions falls under their normal, routine responsibilities just as they certify elections results. I'd be surprised to hear that municipalities pay for their elections results and so I'd be equally surprised if a municipality had to compensate the Board for certifying petitions. Please someone correct me if my understanding on this is wrong!
Most of the petitioners voted for Carty! Irony.
I just read that of the first 12,000 signatures, only half have been verified. The other half have already been thrown out.
This is from what I read on blade's website.
It appears that the petitions that have been tossed are because either the person who signed was not a registered voter or not registered at the address provided. Last I saw it was around 6100 passed the check, and a hair over 6000 had been disqualified.
There is no need for petitions to remove Finkbeiner. The ultimate referendum is the upcoming election. The voting public will take care of this when they step up to the ballot, if Finbeiner runs again. Does TBT not get this? Another thing I'd like to know is how much this is going to cost, if it gets on the ballot, to the taxpayers?
dogsrule, the cost issue is a big concern of mine. But the few TBT people I know and have talked with have given me one of two responses. Either the "its worth it" without explaining why; or they say it is covered by the county, so it doesn't hurt the city. Neither of which really make sense to me. Hey we live in the county as well as the city, so we are going to pay for it.
Otherwise, I agree, the ultimate is the upcoming election. And from what I heard the recall ballot could be put off until November due to the way the charter is written. Its turning into a big joke at this time, TBT has almost fallen to the level of a Carty-ism with all of this.
~In the interest of disclosure, I'm not a Carty fan, I just want the long term best for the city.