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Pet rehoming question?

We recently moved and our new landlord knew about our dogs before we moved in and was fine with them. He still is fine with them other than the fact that he has now stated that the carpeting in the house won't be replaced until two of the three dogs find new homes. His reasoning is because of the amount of shedding two of them do. (Both are 100% house broken) At first I was really upset about this to the point of saying to heck with him, I'll keep the dogs and the carpet or possibly even move. However, after sweeping and vacuuming this morning, I now understand his reason behind not wanting to replace the carpet while they are still in the home.

I love my dogs, they are so totally spoiled it's almost sad...LOL! But I also realize that we live in an AWESOME house right now and our chances of finding this decent of a house at this price to rent in a school district other than TPS are slim to none, if that!

So, does anyone here know where I can post messages (printed and/or online) about the dogs that I need to rehome where I won't be bombarded by nut cases? LOL I thought about CraigsList, but my sis did that a while back and the results were horrific, so I'm a bit leery of that option!

Anyway, thanks in advance for any info!

created by justsimplyholly on Jun 26, 2009 at 12:08:23 pm     Pets     Comments: 49

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How about living with the carpet the way it is? Or pay for it yourself? I know that would be my only two options.

posted by Ryan on Jun 26, 2009 at 12:32:16 pm     #  

Im with ryan. Keep the dogs, invest in a carpet cleaner. People with dogs have hair.

posted by billy on Jun 26, 2009 at 12:35:30 pm     #  

Yup....I'll third that suggestion. Keep the dogs and either the heck with the carpet for now or replace it yourself.

posted by phil43606 on Jun 26, 2009 at 12:38:17 pm     #  

Carpet-family carpet-family carpet-family Hm tough choice.
Offer to cut the grass, shovel snow, if you can do what it takes.
Good luck Holly

posted by Offshore on Jun 26, 2009 at 12:56:22 pm     #  

You could get a Dyson? Get the carpet cleaned like Billy mentioned?

posted by toledolen on Jun 26, 2009 at 01:20:49 pm     #  

When you got those dogs you made a commitment to them which in all likelihood was going to last about 10-12-14 years. I am sorry, but you won't get any advice from me about re-homing. Not for the reason of having nice carpet in your nice house.

"Inconvenient" pets are one reason why our shelters are bursting at the seams and why nationally 60 percent of dogs and 80 percent of cats who get dumped at shelters never make it out. (Per HSUS.)

I apologize if I am being a jerk, but my own beloved dog is dying. Dying, OK? I'd do anything -- anything! -- to make him better, and you want to get rid of yours because they shed.

That bothers me greatly.

You actually found a landlord who allows dogs! Multiple dogs! Do you know how fortunate that makes you? Do you know how rare that is? These dogs are your responsibility. Suck it up and keep your promises to these sentient beings who don't deserve to be thought of as disposable.

Practical solutions include: Living with your current carpet; getting them groomed/trimmed/shaved regularly by a professional; daily brushing so you control when and where a lot of the hair gets shed; changing their diet to one that reduces shedding; changing their shampoo to one that reduces shedding; making one or two rooms off-limits with baby gates; vacuuming daily or every-other-day to limit hair accumulation; increasing their "outside time" on days when the temperature is moderate; sending them to doggie daycare a few times a week to get them out of the house and let them shed elsewhere; ETC. Instead of Googling for re-homing sites, Google for anti-shedding solutions.

posted by jmleong on Jun 26, 2009 at 01:44:02 pm     #  

Well, if the carpet is real bad, how about a large area rug instead. We did that once, not for dogs, but our landlord wouldn't replace the carpet and it was torn, so we just got a cool area rug and it worked out great.

posted by tm2 on Jun 26, 2009 at 01:52:06 pm     #  

Google a product called the FURminator.

then if interested, they sell em cheap on Ebay

posted by billy on Jun 26, 2009 at 02:15:47 pm     #  

Keep the dogs. Clean the carpet.

Your real problem is that your landlord doesn't want to spend money on the apartment. The landlord has a built in excuse with the dogs, and if it weren't the dogs, it would be the kids or the husband, or something else.

Personally, I wouldn't even consider ditching my dog in favor of my carpet.

posted by madjack on Jun 26, 2009 at 02:58:05 pm     #  

I have to say I concur with the other posters on this one. I would never choose my carpet over my dogs.

Like others have said, try kicking up the cleaning/vacuuming/shedding aspects of things. I bought a Dyson Animal vacuum a few months back and am ASTOUNDED at the results. The vacuum was pricey, but well worth it!

Good luck Holly, but please remember the promise you made to the dogs in becoming their owner... if you must make that decision to rehome, make sure you know the people who take the dogs... there are so many cruel people that would not have the dogs' happiness/best interests at heart.

posted by Deho on Jun 26, 2009 at 03:25:13 pm     #  

I could never - ever - give up a pet for a carpet. Re-home is a nice sanitary word. Really what you're proposing to do is to abandon a thinking, feeling animal that has come to rely on you and love you. SHAME ON YOU!

posted by holland on Jun 26, 2009 at 03:42:38 pm     #  

Having thought this through a little more please DO give your pets away or rehome or whatever. Find them a better home where the new owner will love them more than a clean carpet.

posted by holland on Jun 26, 2009 at 03:45:56 pm     #  

I wouldn't give my dog up for a carpet either. Buy a new carpet, and then vacuum weekly, and if you have to daily. My dog sheds like crazy, she even goes swimming with us in our pool. You think a carpet gets bad, you should check out our pool but we clean that daily.

posted by justphillips on Jun 26, 2009 at 03:55:24 pm     #  

justsimplyholly-

Not saying it to be hurtful but the premise of giving up any of your dogs for new carpet is...ummm....well, it's not good. If there are other underlying reasons why maybe you want or need to get rid of them, do whatever it takes to find them good homes. Otherwise, maybe just re-think the carpet.

Just my opinion and it's offered it respectfully.

posted by angryconsumer on Jun 26, 2009 at 04:08:56 pm     #  

you want to get rid of your dogs for a new carpet? sounds a little selfish to me.

posted by michellemybelle on Jun 26, 2009 at 10:27:37 pm     #  

You got the dogs to love, right? They trust & love you back, unconditionally.
But you'd get rid of them (the real word for 're-homing') to get new carpeting.
And you want new carpeting because it will look nice & impress people? Is that more important to you than being able to sleep at night wondering how your dogs are doing since you dumped them? Look into your dogs eyes & ask yourself what is more important. If you can look into their eyes, and still think new carpeting is more important to your life, and your Karma - then try to find a good home for them. Use a lot of caution doing so though because there are a lot of 'horrifics' out there. I would suggest you imagine a few scenareos your dogs may end up in. A new owner who decides they don't want the dogs in the house 'after all' & make them live outside in horrible weather. Or somebody with a bad temper, who takes their frustrations out on the dogs, physically. Or, somebody who meant well at the time they took them, but circumstances changed, they get evicted, lose a job & the dog is carted off to the humane society, put to sleep, abandoned or dropped off by the side of a country road alone, or sold to a lab because they need quick cash (this happens more than you know - and they do 'horrific' things to animals in labs).

Shelters are overwhelmed & overloaded right now with pets that people had to give up, due to job or home loss. The odds of your dogs finding good homes before they're given up on, are not good.

I don't know if you have kids holly - but I taught my 3 kids, that when we took in a pet, it was our responsiblity for the rest of that animals' life. My kids are grown, and they still believe that - no matter what. Think hard about what message you will be sending to your kids if you give up your dogs, just to have a nice carpet (appearance over family - your dogs are part of your family. Dogs ar pack animals - YOU are their pack.. I had a neighbor years ago, who'd adopt a dog, then got tired of the inconvenience & she'd get rid of it - she repeated this cycle for years & dogs. I know somebody who 're-homed' their dog, only to learn that the new owner didn't want it in the house anymore & made it live outside in bad Ohio winters. It froze to death a few years ago. Big dog, too.

I raised 3 kids & we've had a lot of dogs & cats (mostly strays & rescues). We built a new house, new carpet - and after a few years of kids & pets, it got shabby - and it stayed shabby (I have a shampooer & I vacume daily - so it was clean, but shabby - it had holes worn in places where our old dog scratched it when she got senile). Anybody who came to our house, knew we had kids & pets - and they didn't care what our carpet looked like (or sofa). Our house was always full of neighbor kids - and can be harder on a carpet than dogs are. After about 15 years, we bought new carpeting. We still have 4 cats & 2 dogs (one sheds like crazy) - but it was a kig who made the first stain.

One product I love is found at the "Fix It Shop" on Sylvania Ave - by Hoover, a spot cleaner - takes out most anythng. I like the idea of a big area rug laid on top of your carpet - adds interest & color, and you can find them in all sizes & prices.

I have to agree with the poster who said your landlord is just making an excuse to not buy your carpeting - if he's "OK" with one dog, but not two dogs - IF that's his logic, it garbage. Why is he 'ok' with one dog & not the others when it comes to buying carpet? Do you have kids? Is he 'ok' with kids & new carpet? Your kids are going to be harder on new carpet than your dogs will be.

One last thought - a new carpet is only pretty & new looking for a couple of years, then it shows wear & use, like normal family wear. Is having your carpeting look really nice & new for a couple of years worth the guilt of giving up your dogs?

I'm not trying to be mean - but this is one of the most dispicable things I've ever heard of - dumping your dogs to get new carpeting.

posted by starling02 on Jun 26, 2009 at 11:19:36 pm     #  

And you do NOT "love your dogs" - or you wouldn't even be entettaining this idea.

posted by starling02 on Jun 26, 2009 at 11:20:16 pm     #  

Two things ...

1) Use Arm & Hammer Carpet Freshener with Pet Hair Release. We have a long haired dog that sheds like mad - and he is brushed and bladed almost daily. But that stuff has saved my sanity for years. And it's very inexpensive.

2) If you just can't seem to forego new carpet ... please call Sylvania Veterinary Hospital and ask them to help you find a kind and loving home. And remember ... since these dogs have all lived together it would be extremely cruel to separate them now.

OK - I lied - THREE things ...

3) Carpet is inanimate. It has no feelings, it has no value and it will never love you unconditionally. It will never greet you at the door when you've had a bad day, tail wagging ... and make the whole world right. It will never make you laugh, smile, sigh, giggle or cry. All it will do is collect other types of debris and still need to be cleaned.

Tell your landlord you're good with the carpet as it is. Then lay on the worn, hairy carpet and play with your four legged, vertically challenged children. You'll feel better for it.

posted by DoknowDocare on Jun 27, 2009 at 01:21:07 am     #  

Gosh, Holly. You say you love your dogs, and that they're spoiled, but yet you're ready to give them up for new carpeting. Please reconsider. One of my pets sheds terribly, but I can't imagine giving him up. I'm even allergic to dogs and cats, but I tolerate it because I can't imagine not having a dog or cat in my life. Good luck to you!

posted by dogsrule on Jun 27, 2009 at 07:34:47 am     #  

Ah, you know JustSimplyHolly, were I you I might reconsider dumping your dogs in favor of your carpet. Just a thought.

I'll bet you never expected a reaction like this one, did you? I didn't, but I'm glad to see it.

I particularly like that comment about 'rehoming' being a nice, sterile word.

posted by madjack on Jun 27, 2009 at 10:08:00 am     #  

starling - what is the name of that spot cleaner product? I know you said it was by Hoover, but does it have a specific name?

I have 2 kids under the age of 6, a big, dark haired dog, and white carpet. A good spot cleaner is my best friend. :)

** Yes, the white carpet is crazy. I never would have chosen it, just came with the house. Actually, if it were up to me, I'd have no carpet at all. One of these days, I'll get around to replacing everything with tile, wood, laminate, etc.

posted by mom2 on Jun 27, 2009 at 10:11:54 am     #  

mom2 - I'm out of the Hoover spray, can't recall the exact name - but it says "Hoover" & "pre-cleaner" on the white spray bottle - (they will know exactly what you want at the Fix It Shop, which is the only place I can find it anymore). They were out of it the last time I was there getting sweeper bags, so in a pinch, I grabbed what they suggested as an alternative & I found it works just as good (but it's not a apray). It's called Kleenco Effortless Spot Remover - white bottle, big or smaller bottles available. These two products saved my sanity with kids & dogs - they have removed everything, stains, spills - the spots disappear before your eyes. I spray (or drizzle) it on the soiled area, and take a wet sponge & scrub the spot, then I blot up all the wet with paper towels - like magic, spots are gone. They also work great on clothes, fabrics (color fast test first to be safe).

Another product that saves my sanity is called the "Pet Sponge" (I found my first ones at Pets Supplies Plus, but they no longer carry them, so now I buy them on Ebay for about $4.95. You use the sponge dry. I have a Kirby vacume that is wonderful, but on my area rugs & carpeted stairs, I swipe the rugs & stairs before I vacume about once a week - you'll be amazed at how much dog & cat fur it picks up (which I deposit into a paper towel to toss when I'm done). Then I vacume.

Holly - I know you probably feel blasted by now, surely not the responses you expected, and I'm sorry if we've hurt your feelings. But the truth is, even the best vets are not likely going to be able to help you dump your dogs - they get these requests all the time. The best they may offer is for you to post a notice on a bullatin board. They're overwhelmed with these types of requests, just like Paws & Whiskers, Planned Pethood & the Humane Society. There's too many people who've lost jobs & homes & have had to give up their pets - out of necessity. There's been too many of these pets abandoned in apartments or on the streets.

I also have to question your & your landlord's logic about using the dog shedding as an excuse to not buy you new carpeting. Dog shedding does not stain or dirty the rug - soil will do that, but not hair or fur. Hair & fur vacume up (maybe you need a better vacume cleaner). I think your landlord is using that as an excuse (why is he ok with one dog & not the others?) - in that case, he may come up with more excuses after you get rid of your dogs.

I know how it feels to hear people say 'just buy your own carpeting' when you can't afford to do that - it's not cheap. I also know how it feels to see a shabby carpet everyday, and how great it is to feel to see a new carpet in all it's pristine newness - but that newness doesnt' last long enough to give up your dogs for. Within a couple of months after we finally got new carpeting, my husband got injured - artery spouting blood - on the carpet. But I acted fast & those cleaners I mentioned got it out.

Places like Home Depot & Lowes have really nice, big area rugs for not too much money - and I know it's not the same as having new carpet throughout, but it's an idea.

I have to agree with the comment about not separating the dogs - they are each other's family, and they will be heartbroken & bewildered as it is to find themselves in a different home, much less to lose each other in the process. There are also a lot of cases where the given up dogs try to find their original owners - across the country sometimes. Sometimes they find them, I assume more often than not, they don't.

posted by starling02 on Jun 27, 2009 at 03:29:56 pm     #  

More thoughts about the re-homing of pets on my blog, but suffice to say that I agree with the vast majority here: your dogs are a lifelong commitment, and new carpeting is highly overrated.

posted by historymike on Jun 27, 2009 at 04:53:40 pm     #  

starling - that sponge sounds awesome. I will have to check it out.

With a dark haired dog and white carpet, I could definitely use something like that to help on the stairs. When any dog hair collects in the corners of the steps (that my vacuum can't quite reach well), it looks like I have actual dirt in those little corners/crevices.

posted by mom2 on Jun 27, 2009 at 06:08:21 pm     #  

P.S. I have read Holly's blog off and on for awhile. I suspect that the situation may be a little more complicated than just wanting to trade the dogs for new carpet.

I seem to recall that their old landlord sold the house they had been renting, and they were given short notice to find a new place. If I also recall correctly, there have been some job issues in their family, so finding a place to rent on short notice that they could actually afford was a challenge as well.

Don't get me wrong - if its just a carpet vs. dog issue, I would never defend that. And I still think there must be some way to figure out a compromise. But, from what I recall on her blog, I think there must be more to the situation than what came across in her original question here.

posted by mom2 on Jun 27, 2009 at 06:14:30 pm     #  

Necessity (food on the table etc.) I get. So emotionally shallow as to have a stronger desire for a pretty new carpet then a bond with the family dog? These were the kind of people we desperately tried to avoid when I worked with United Helping Animals in adopting out rescues.

posted by holland on Jun 27, 2009 at 07:46:17 pm     #  

Did anybody catch the last bit about Sis and adopting out a pet through Craig's list?

"I thought about CraigsList, but my sis did that a while back and the results were horrific, so I'm a bit leery of that option!"

I'm terrified to know what happened to that animal and that maybe the justsimplyholly's whole family is not capable of properly caring for an animal. Sounds more to me like maybe this should be an animal rescue FROM justsimplyholly, before she dumps her pets to the first guy that sells to an animal lab.

posted by holland on Jun 27, 2009 at 07:51:51 pm     #  

Planned Pethood will take the dogs, no questions asked, assuming that they are adoptable and have no aggression issues (and that there are enough fosters at that moment). The dogs can also be surrendered to the Humane Society, as well as (a last ditch option) that government agency of whose name I shall not speak and by the auspices of whose warden many a dog has been killed.

(full disclosure: historymike works as a volunteer for PP, and his views on a certain government official responsible for the deaths of so many stray dogs are strictly his own and do not reflect those of any group with which he is associated)

posted by historymike on Jun 27, 2009 at 08:26:19 pm     #  

I also have to question your & your landlord's logic about using the dog shedding as an excuse to not buy you new carpeting. Dog shedding does not stain or dirty the rug - soil will do that, but not hair or fur. Hair & fur vacume up (maybe you need a better vacume cleaner). I think your landlord is using that as an excuse (why is he ok with one dog & not the others?) - in that case, he may come up with more excuses after you get rid of your dogs. - Starling

Well, speaking as someone who works for a rental property owner, the landlord in this case has no idea how clean this family keeps its dogs or how often they'd vacuum. Dirty, matted, unbathed dog hair -- especially in long-haired breeds -- DOES have a "smell" to it. You know what I mean. Especially if it gets wet! If that smell just lays in the carpet for days and weeks and months, unattended, yeah, the whole house is going to have that smell, including the carpet. When the family goes to move out, the carpet cleaner would have to go over it several times and probably let it dry in-between times, to fully lift that smell out. And it would get worse before it got better. (Not saying Holly's family would let that happen, but the landlord has no idea.)

Having said all that, my suspicion would be that the landlord has never intended to replace the carpet at all. It's ridiculous to try to replace carpet AFTER your tenants move in. You do it BEFORE tenants move in, as part of your turnover work between tenants, which serves as a selling point to attract new tenants. Because, really, once you've got these people signed to a 12-month lease, there is really no incentive whatsoever to make improvements to the property other than keeping up stuff enough to make sure there are no health and safety issues, and to comply with your part of the lease provisions, for example, maintaining the furnished appliances in good operational shape and fixing things like running toilets in prompt fashion.

Unless it is written in the lease that the landlord will provide new carpet, he certainly does not have to, and probably doesn't intend to.

In this landlord's current situation -- renting a home to a family with multiple dogs and already iffy carpeting -- his common sense should tell him to leave the carpet as is, and replace it when this family moves out.

posted by jmleong on Jun 28, 2009 at 03:24:33 am     #  

I went through a horrible divorce with two kids and a 9-year-old sheltie. I had to move because I could not afford the rent in the expensive Toledo suburb and I, in no way, even considered getting rid of my pet. We actually lived with a friend for a month before I found an apartment that would allow my pet. Having a pet, to me, is a promise to take care of that pet til death. My sheltie passed away in my arms four years ago. To even hear of someone wanting to "re-home" ie. get rid of a pet for carpet just makes my blood boil. New carpet? Who the heck cares? Clean it, cover it with a rug, use carpet freshner- do anything but breaking your moral promise/obligation to those dogs!

posted by golddustwoman on Jun 28, 2009 at 12:29:46 pm     #  

I completely understand, golddustwoman. We put to sleep our Sheltie mix Jimmy a few months ago. Same story: his liver and kidneys had failed, and I sat holding him in the vet's office as they administered the medicine that ended his life. There were no profound moments of spiritual epiphany, mind you, but I was glad to be with him when he passed.

posted by historymike on Jun 28, 2009 at 12:55:43 pm     #  

Golddustwoman and historymike, to be with your dogs when they died shows your commitment and how much you loved them. That was always my biggest fear. I took my elderly dog to a new vet for surgery, and was supposed to pick her up the following day. Unbeknownst to me, my dog took a turn for the worst, and gasped for breath for five hours. Nobody called me until she died. The absolute worst, not to be able to comfort my dog as she lay dying. The most painful thing I've ever been through, and I've been through a lot. I told the asshole vet how he should have called me. He said he was unaware it was important for a pet owner to want to be with their pet when it's dying. And he's been in the business for 40 years. JustSimplyHolly, I don't understand how you can pamper your dogs, which I take to mean that you hug and cuddle them and make them as comfortable as possible, but want to get rid of them for a carpet. Just think of the trauma they will feel losing their home, and the ones they've come to love and trust. I have to agree with mom2 that there must be something more to your situation. If you have anything to add, please do. I really want to understand this.

posted by renegade on Jun 29, 2009 at 06:06:17 am     #  

Huh?! You are going to get rid of your dogs because you want new carpet? Just when I thought I had heard every excuse to dump a pet...

All these other posters were much nicer than I ever could be. Frankly, your reasoning for getting rid of 2 dogs really sucks. Go take a stroll through the shelter on any given day and take a look at the numerous dogs- you honestly can see the confusion in their eyes- wondering why their family took them for a car ride and never came back for them.

Another dog let down by their best friend. I will add this to the reasons I like my dogs more than most people.

posted by Courtney on Jun 29, 2009 at 07:57:07 pm     #  

Renegade, that has to be one of the most horrible stories I've ever heard about a veterinarian's care of a beloved pet. I'm so sorry that happened to you and your sweet elderly girl. How devastating.

posted by jmleong on Jun 30, 2009 at 12:18:41 am     #  

Renegade: Would LOVE to know who the hell that vet was... What vet, in business for 40 years, does not understand that a pet owner wants to know when things like "gasping for breath for five hours" ie.. dying, is happening so they can be with their pet? NOW I am angry! What an idiot. THAT is a vet I need to stay away from. AND the vet said that to you? I am so sorry you went through that. This whole thread has me so angry... WTF? Give away two dogs for carpet and vets who don't call owners when their pet is dying...UUUGH!!!!!!

posted by golddustwoman on Jun 30, 2009 at 08:39:58 am     #  

Sounds like my first vet that I went to ONCE. His “bedside manner” was so disgusting I never went back. Then, by chance a coworker recommended South Suburban and I have been going there ever since.

posted by Ryan on Jun 30, 2009 at 09:01:16 am     #  

Thanks jmleong and golddustwoman. I am still traumatized by what happened. I told the owner of the facility that it was inexcusable for him not to call me when my dog's health started deteriorating. As I said, he told me he was unaware it was important to a pet owner to be with their pet when it is dying. He also said, "Thank you for informing me of this. We will change our policy." I should have punched the guy in his freaking nose!!! I didn't name him since I don't want to start anything, but since golddustwoman asked, the vet was Sylvania Veterinary Hospital.

I had a vet several years ago who was very good with animals. Maybe I was spoiled all those years and expected too much from Sylvania Veterinary Hospital. I remember adopting a puppy and it became sick just 10 days later. I took it to my vet in West Toledo and I was told a few days later - on a Sunday - that her condidtion was deteriorating and it was best to have her put to sleep. They thought she had parvovirus and her liver was failing. She must have gotten it from her mother, they thought, since she already had her vaccinations. That was so caring of the vet call me, even though I didn't even have the puppy for very long. The puppy was just a little thing, probably eight weeks old. It had lice, too, for which I had been treating it. Very sad. I still cried when it was put down, but I'll always remember how kind and compassionate this vet was to inform me of its failing condition, and how I could come to the office to be with it.

posted by renegade on Jun 30, 2009 at 07:57:07 pm     #  

Yes, Renegade, I did ask... UUUGH! Sylvania Vet seems to be a polarizing subject on this board so I guess I'll just say some people love that vet, others, like yourself, not so much. How you did not punch the vet is beyond me. Did the vet say all of that with a straight face? How do you not know that a pet owner wants to be with their pet in its final moments or at least be given that option- I know some people could not do it but you should have been given that option. I feel so bad for you, at least I was able to be with my little guy when he passed. I hope you are not feeling guilty by what has happened. I am sure you did all you could for your dog. Sylvania Vet is not the cheapest place and I am sure you went into it thinking you were getting your dog the best care. Not being there when your pet passed was not your fault. Sylvania Vet did not give you that option. I do hope they have changed their policy regarding contacting the owner.

posted by golddustwoman on Jul 01, 2009 at 09:37:16 am     #  

Just an FYI - Justsimplygoodgollyholly has been on justin billau's blog since 06/29 disparaging Toledo peeps, so we all know she has read this thread. I thought she was bigger than that, but she has become the regular Toledoan who does nothing but bitch. We all know of whom we speak.

PS - bought some Oxy carpet stuff today and it worked great. It's not that hard.

posted by Ryan on Jul 01, 2009 at 08:29:40 pm     #  

FYI Ryan
I AM bigger than that, thus the reason I hadn't replied back to the hatred you all have spewed out of your mouths!

If you read this post from back in January, you'll realize that I'm not even remotely anything that you all have stated, NOR are my family members!

http://www.toledotalk.com/cgi-bin/tt.pl/article/30896/I_found_YOUR_dog_A_rant

So go ahead and keep checking up on me if that's what you get off on. I've never said anything to any of you on here that wasn't decent, EVER! I can take it if I give it out, but I came here looking for suggestions and you all just took it and ran with it with your wild imaginations! Whatever people! I hope you enjoy looking at people the way you do! You took something I said and turned it into an umpteen comment attack that makes absolutely no sense! I didn't come here asking for places to dump a pet off with no care or concern for it's well being. And my husband and I didn't come to the decision lightly! We can't offer this specific dog things that she deserves to have and we were hoping we could find a family that could offer her that as well as love her the way we do. It's about much more than pet hair and stained carpet. But it doesn't matter anymore. You all showed your true colors and frankly, not a single one of you are worth another word I type!

posted by justsimplyholly on Jul 03, 2009 at 12:24:14 am     #  

Holly, the way you posted the question made it SEEM like carpet was more important and you were being selfish, if you expected a better response, maybe you should have explained yourself better. I realize that you don't have to explain yourself, but you got the response you did because of the way you posed your question.

There are many people on here that know your are a decent person and this angered many of us even more, so if your so inclined, maybe you could tell us the whole story?

posted by tm2 on Jul 03, 2009 at 07:46:27 am     #  

Also you said you recently moved, but according to another of your posts, that was like 18 months ago?

posted by tm2 on Jul 03, 2009 at 07:47:18 am     #  

Totally agree with you tm2. If Holly would have said in her latest post: "We can't offer this specific dog things that she deserves to have and we were hoping we could find a family that could offer her that as well as love her the way we do. It's about much more than pet hair and stained carpet."- Nobody would have lost their mind. AND, in her original post it sounds like two dogs need homes, not one specific one.
What is pathetic is that many people, especially in this economy, have found themselves in similar situations- not being able to financially care for a pet, losing their homes to foreclosure, etc. AND, finding a rental that will allow pets is a bitch! I know from experience and I am sure it is not getting any better.
I am sure that many people who commented on this thread, including myself, would have never "lost it" and would have shown more empathy to Holly IF she would not have written her original post about new carpet and dog hair.
As for Holly: I would stay off Craigslist and Petfinder- you just do not know who would take your dog (dogs?) and for what purpose. Try calling some of the pet rescue groups who will take your pets and who will do a thorough search of the person (family) who would want to give your pet (pets?) a good, loving, and protective forever home.

posted by golddustwoman on Jul 03, 2009 at 01:01:11 pm     #  

If you want to know how small justsimplyholly really is just read he latest blog. I posted a query - my name's Mary Visco and I have owned and operated convenience stores (and other businesses) for 35 years - and you'll get a taste of what she's really like.

Oh, and be sure and donate too.

http://www.justsimplyholly.com/

posted by holland on Jul 03, 2009 at 01:31:17 pm     #  

Thanks for posting Holland. GOT IT LOUD AND CLEAR!

posted by golddustwoman on Jul 03, 2009 at 02:07:57 pm     #  

Because my response disappeared from her blog I copied my query and her response comment to keep it from also disappearing.

MaryVisco says:
July 2, 2009 at 10:05 PM
How are the dogs?

justsimplyholly says:
July 2, 2009 at 10:14 PM
They’re doing wonderful Mary, thank you so much for asking, your concern means so much to me! How are your scamming employees doing? Have they overcharged anyone else recently? Or do they only do that under the counter without your knowledge?

posted by holland on Jul 03, 2009 at 03:57:13 pm     #  

DONATE? WTF? WOW!

posted by Ryan on Jul 03, 2009 at 05:04:28 pm     #  

justsimplyholly-
The facts are the facts and your post only mnetioned new carpet, no other reason(s) for getting rid of your dogs. To become agitated at the responses you got based on your explanation, how can you possibly try to turn the tables to those who place more value on a family pet than new carpet?
I mean seriously, the truth is the truth.........

posted by angryconsumer on Jul 04, 2009 at 05:32:16 am     #  

Holly, you said, that your landlord won't be replacing the carpeting in your house "until two of the three dogs find new homes" as a result of the amount of shedding two of them do. Then you said, "At first I was really upset about this to the point of saying to heck with him, I'll keep the dogs and the carpet or possibly even move."

After vacuuming, you said you understood his reasoning. Then you said, which is what really stunned me as a long time animal lover:
"...we live in an AWESOME house right now and our chances of finding this decent of a house at this price to rent in a school district other than TPS are slim to none, if that!"

Your focus was totally on replacing the carpeting and not losing your awesome new home if you don't get rid of the dogs. Most people can't imagine doing that - trading a family member for new carpeting. It's just not a rational response from someone who loves their pets. My feeling is as long as I have a roof over my head, so do my pets. I see them as an appendage - one of my arms or legs - not something that can be parted with. The only other rationale I would understand if someone had to find another home for their pets is if the owner was physically or emotionally unable to care for them anymore. I have seen that happen, and it is heartbreaking. In any event, instead of trying to clarify your thread, you have made it even more confusing by saying you can't offer the one dog what it needs. No mention of carpeting in your subsequent post.

And Holly, too bad you had to slam Holland for giving her opinion. I know Mary and she is a very decent and fair person, always looking out for the little guy!

Holly, good luck with your dogs, and I hope you find good homes for them. I agree with goldustwoman about contacting a rescue organization with a good reputation that will screen candidates who want to adopt your dogs.

posted by renegade on Jul 05, 2009 at 11:08:29 pm     #