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Ted Kennedy passes. RIP

I should be more specific. RIP Mary Jo Kopechne, that is.

RIP for Kennedy shouldda been Rot In Prison, but then again, they had money...

created by billy on Aug 26, 2009 at 07:43:40 am
updated by admin on Aug 26, 2009 at 02:25:54 pm
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Are you 12?

posted by Ryan on Aug 26, 2009 at 08:11:50 am     #  

There's an old saying that goes something like this:

Never dance on a grave while the body's still warm.

I'm just sayin'...

posted by historymike on Aug 26, 2009 at 09:07:13 am     #  

Rot In Prison is right. Kennedy was nothing more than a murderer, no more nor less. Good riddance.

posted by madjack on Aug 26, 2009 at 09:07:47 am     #  

Mary Jo's body was cold before she ever was pulled out of the water. Her unpunished murderer has now met his maker. His body temp is of no concern to me.

posted by billy on Aug 26, 2009 at 09:15:53 am     #  

Ouch. Didn't realize that Teddy was so despised...carry on, then.

posted by historymike on Aug 26, 2009 at 09:42:16 am     #  

Gee I was hoping his death would have been a little more violent. This S.O.B. was really nothing more than a murdering coward. Just a lying drunk with plenty of money and a family name. I sure hope the funeral is private. I don't want to hear how much good he'd done for the poor people of this world.

posted by AmericanPie on Aug 26, 2009 at 09:47:23 am     #  

LOL American Pie - not a fuggin chance in hell.

posted by billy on Aug 26, 2009 at 10:17:33 am     #  

admin edit: Moved this comment from the lottery thread to its appropriate place here to keep the trash organized.

What Would You Do If You Won The Lottery?

I think I'd erect several giant monuments to Ted Kennedy all around I 75 and 475/23 just to make conservative heads explode as they drive anywhere in Northwest Ohio. :)

posted by SensorG on Aug 26, 2009 at 09:56:38 am

posted by admin on Aug 26, 2009 at 10:22:35 am     #  

Why so much hate for Mr. Kennedy? Who is Mary?

posted by INeedCoffee on Aug 26, 2009 at 10:29:37 am     #  

Coffee, maybe you're not old enough to remember.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6094161/Ted-Kennedy-Chappaquiddick-Incident.html

That's a brief account. I read somewhere that the mortician who embalmed MaryJo claims almost no water came out of her body- she may have suffocated instead of drowning. So while Teddy sat in his hotel room sobering up, she was dying. Who knows, if he had called for help right away, she may have been saved.

For this, he spent no time in jail, and the morons of Massachusetts kept on re-electing him.
If it had been "Joe Regular citizen" instead of a Kennedy, what would he have gotten?

posted by JeepMaker on Aug 26, 2009 at 11:04:32 am     #  

Yes, by all means, let's let one horrible incident overshadow everything else he accomplished. If we're going to do that, then allow me to bring up Laura Bush committing vehicular manslaughter at 17 when she blew through a stop sign.

posted by Mark73 on Aug 26, 2009 at 11:37:04 am     #  

Maybe you can help me, remind me of anything good he did, besides sucking at the government teat for 47 years.

posted by JeepMaker on Aug 26, 2009 at 11:48:15 am     #  

It’s all out there on the internets if you take the time to read it.

Gotta love it though, you think he sat I the Senate for 40 some years doing nothing and yet to you people Palin invented the wheel in her blink and you will miss it turn as Gubner Icekween.

posted by Ryan on Aug 26, 2009 at 11:54:11 am     #  

Ted Kennedy - senator for 40 years. Still a murderer.

Michael Jackson - did much charity work for 40 years - still a pedophile.

OJ Simpson - foot ball great. Still a killer

John Wayne Gacy - entertainer of children...

Dennis Rader - church deacon...

There's no scale where your good deeds excuse your crimes...

posted by billy on Aug 26, 2009 at 12:05:05 pm     #  

I bet you assholes are really going to love it when they name the health bill after him. ;)

posted by toledolen on Aug 26, 2009 at 12:22:54 pm     #  

Ted, the only Kennedy not worthy of a bullet...

posted by BrianInFlorida on Aug 26, 2009 at 12:23:25 pm     #  

Ted Kennedy was a walking example of how money and power can get you out of anything and just by having a certain last name, you can obtain positions of power.

As I'm sure he felt about me, I don't care he died. It was long overdue.

Any idiot that did what he did on the night Mary Kopechne died surely does not have the mental faculties to be making decisions for anyone else.

posted by hockeyfan on Aug 26, 2009 at 12:49:21 pm     #  

Does it make people feel good to disparage the dead?

Ted Kennedy was not without flaws. But none of us are.

posted by jmleong on Aug 26, 2009 at 12:57:31 pm     #  

OK, billy. By your own criteria, will you admit, here and now, that Laura Bush, despite all good deeds she's done for charities, literacy, etc., is a killer?

posted by Mark73 on Aug 26, 2009 at 01:00:18 pm     #  

This thread is too funny.

Some people having been 'saving up' for this one for a long, long time.

Pathetic.

posted by McCaskey on Aug 26, 2009 at 01:00:44 pm     #  

Yes Mark, she did kill. She also was accountable and went thru the court system and didnt use family money or political power to cover it up.

Are you able to see the difference, or is the whole idea of personal accountability beyond your grasp?

posted by billy on Aug 26, 2009 at 01:19:55 pm     #  

Yea, cause we all know Billy would not use any resources necessary to get out of trouble. He would be the first to tell them to lock him up and throw away the key. sarcasm

posted by Ryan on Aug 26, 2009 at 01:25:50 pm     #  

From Jeepmaker's link above:

"A judge found that there probable cause to believe that Kennedy operated his motor vehicle negligently ... and that such operation appears to have contributed to the death of Mary Jo Kopechne."

He entered a guilty plea and got a two-month suspended sentence.

I'm not defending Kennedy on Chappaquiddick. You can say his actions were that of a coward and I wouldn't argue a bit.

But he did go 'thru the court system' and if family money or political power was used to get off lightly, he's in a ten-mile-long line that includes many from all political families/power brokers representing all political parties.

posted by McCaskey on Aug 26, 2009 at 01:31:34 pm     #  

And you know this how? You're an idiot ryan. You cannot judge my character you moron, you've got nothing to back yourself up. you have nothing that tells you what standard of accountability I hold myself to, so therefore you just make shit up like a jackass.

history though - tells what Ted did and what Laura did.

One took the honorable way out and the other did not. Ironically, the honorable one DID end up living in the white house and the other never did...

posted by billy on Aug 26, 2009 at 01:31:54 pm     #  

All of us here would use our families clout and/or money to get out of trouble if we could and you know it as well as I do.

Put down the super hero cape.

posted by Ryan on Aug 26, 2009 at 01:35:48 pm     #  

posted by toledolen on Aug 26, 2009 at 01:44:54 pm     #  

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posted by lfrost2125 on Aug 26, 2009 at 02:07:29 pm     #  

This is the most vile display I have seen in quite a while - worse even than the things circulated after Michael Jackson died. Regardless of what he did, a man died last night. There is a time and a place for this discussion and 8 hours post mortem on a Toledo internet bulletin board is not it.

Society is not made better by this sort of behavior. Many cite Kennedy's lack of moral integrity yet fail to follow a kindergarten rule, "Do unto others..." Don't bother claiming that Kennedy doesn't deserve respect or some other similar sentiment. He may have been the most morally abhorrent person to roam the Earth - it does not matter. Deriding the recently deceased is not something of which anyone should be proud.

posted by MoreThanRhetoric on Aug 26, 2009 at 02:17:18 pm     #  

Yes, the vitriol is pretty thick with this crowd.

posted by toledolen on Aug 26, 2009 at 02:47:22 pm     #  

From Ryan: All of us here would use our families clout and/or money to get out of trouble if we could and you know it as well as I do.

No, I don't know it as well as you do.

The point is that none of us have been elected to the US Senate, gotten blind drunk, driven our car off a bridge and left a passenger to die by drowning, and then failed to report this little incident to anyone until the next day when we get questioned about it.

Kennedy pled guilty to a charge of leaving the scene of an accident after causing injury for which he received a suspended sentence. The only thing more revolting and despicable than Kennedy's crime is the complete failure of the justice system to charge and prosecute him for murder.

I suspect that this vitriolic reaction that you so despise would have been provoked by any reference to Ted Kennedy as being a hero or accomplishing great feats while in office.

And while I'm at it MoreThanRhetoric, our society is not improved by electing officials who have a depraved indifference to human life, which Kennedy certainly evidenced when he left Mary Jo to drown.

posted by madjack on Aug 26, 2009 at 06:46:49 pm     #  

I didn't know you were there in his head, sorry.

But you sure as heck would use anything you could to save your ass, don't BS anybody here.

posted by Ryan on Aug 26, 2009 at 09:03:41 pm     #  

I can honestly say that I would not use my family, money, or position to get out of what I deserve. You can believe it or not. It's called being accountable for one's actions. Something many younger people didn't learn growing up.

Laura Bush killed someone allegedly by accident. Ted Kennedy killed someone allegedly by accident. The difference in my opinion is that Kennedy was able to and did in fact make up an incredible story that no one in their right mind should have believed. But people are stupid and sometimes without morals so they let him live his lie and enjoy a life of wealth and privilege.

The real shame is how just because the man died and his name shot to the top of the news, some find it offensive to remind others of that horrific incident. I've posted it before and I'll post it again. I shed no tear for anyone who lives their life in a way that that has brought harm to others. Kennedy essentially took a life. I may not be perfect, but I can guarantee you that I never took a life.
It is nice to know that some of you on here jump right into the boat with "you would use anything to save your ass" concept. I would not. Sorry. That's how I was raised and that's what kind of person I am.

posted by hockeyfan on Aug 26, 2009 at 09:35:23 pm     #  

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Curious. Do you frequent Carmels?

posted by Ryan on Aug 26, 2009 at 09:55:30 pm     #  

Madjack:

I agree with some of your sentiment. We are not made better by electing politicians who have no regard for other people, life, etc...Regardless of the type of person Kennedy was, you have a choice to be a positive or negative contributor to the world. The two are not inexorably linked. The difference between Jerry Springer and something better is in how people choose to treat others - no matter what kind of person they are or were.

Hockey: I do not care if you shed a tear for Kennedy. I do not care if the incident is discussed. Those things do not bring down the sum total of human decency. What does bring us all down is when people spew garbage like "I was hoping his death would have been more violent" or "...not worthy of a bullet." There is no excuse for that kind of display.

posted by MoreThanRhetoric on Aug 27, 2009 at 07:39:31 am     #  

I think Mary Jo Kopechne and her family would think differently of Mr. Kennedy and his death.

posted by hockeyfan on Aug 28, 2009 at 12:37:08 am     #  

They should install a urinal over his grave....that way he can Rest in Pee.

posted by JeepMaker on Aug 28, 2009 at 11:42:45 am     #  

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