Jemison sentenced to 5 years in death of Brundage

Yea, this is bs.

Hmm, if he "never intended to hurt him or harm him", why did he punch him in the face hard enough to break his jaw and knock him off his bike?

Face it, what the scum bag is "truly truly" sorry for is the fact that he got caught.
I predict in a shade over 5 years he'll be out and back in trouble again.

5 years. Shame on you Judge Zemmelman.

Copied from the blade article:

"The teenager was initially charged with aggravated robbery and murder, but he admitted earlier this month to a lesser charge of robbery and the murder charge.

In exchange for the admission, the state withdrew its serious youthful offender motion. That would have meant the teen would face time in a juvenile facility but could be sent to an adult facility for additional time if he committed another offense."

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090929/NEWS02/909299980

He was not tried as an adult.
Plead the lesser crime, do lesser time.

Pleas and sentences in cases like these are never done without the input and usually agreement of the victim or family and the police. More than that, the law only allows Judge Zemmelman to imprison Jemison until he is 21 - she gave him the maximum sentence she could. Who knows if that will be proper or not. Maybe he can become a fine member of society. There are certainly examples of people who have killed and later made great contributions to the world.

I would be pissed if it were my father. I'd have been arguing the court system all the way.

However, from what I've read, its possible that Robert Brundage himself would have approved of giving Jemison a chance to make something of his life later. (TTers who actually knew him may be able to confirm that for sure.)

Hopefully Jemison will take the words of Brundage's brother seriously, and make the most of his opportunity when he's released.

Wouldn't it be nice if Jemison were required to learn about the life and philosophy of Robert Brundage while in the juvenile facility? Perhaps he'd truly realize what he robbed this world of, and be inspired to try to give back when he gets out.

(I know - the odds are stacked against Jemison's success. But maybe, just maybe, that assignment could get through to the kid.)

I think mom2 has a good thought with this:

"Wouldn't it be nice if Jemison were required to learn about the life and philosophy of Robert Brundage while in the juvenile facility? Perhaps he'd truly realize what he robbed this world of, and be inspired to try to give back when he gets out."

I personally believe violent crimes should be sentenced harshly. And other crimes, like stealing a loaf of bread or drug usage should be more like a couple months vs. many years.

this is... Dr. Brundage would have wanted less time
He was ALL about helping the youth of the city, even the troubled ones...

Consider that as young as this KID is now... 5 years will allow him to come back to society and still fix his life (VS say 10-20 years where there is no way on earth he would ever be able to reconnect with the real world)

I agreee 100% with toledolen that violent crimes should be sentenced most harshly, but in a case like this where we actually know what the victim thought/thinks... I think the punishment suits the crime.

thing is.. not this is.. sorry

"There are certainly examples of people who have killed and later made great contributions to the world."

Really? Great contributions to the world?? Could you name me a few of them...cause I'm stumped...

The kid should fry..as should any person who intentionally causes enough harm to a person to take that person's life.

Hey, Laura Bush killed a guy and look, she went on to marry someone who was appointed president.

OK, maybe not a good example.

So did Teddy K, another bad example

Too bad this all happened, and too bad it didn't happen in Singapore

I wholeheartedly agree with you, ShonuffisDead. The kid should fry. I don't buy his tears of remorse this late in the game. I am cynical about the ability to rehabilitate criminals, particularly murderers. I hate to see what kind of thug he turns into upon release.

All I really want out of Jemison now is a promise not to return to the gang that he performed the crime for. Attacking Robert was part of a gang-initiation act. Robert's brother was SPOT ON about what Jemison has to do to truly apologize -- MAKE SOMETHING OF HIMSELF.

when did this have anything to do with gangs? I do agree 100% about the notion that if he doesnt make something of himself, all is lost...

Upso, that's just my information. Take that as you will. Remember well that the public officials take pains to assure us that there's no gang problem ... but we citizens who are in the line of fire can clearly see there is.

your information? please clarify...
do you have eyes on the streets?
friends in gangs or law enforcement that are close to this case?

I'm WAY closer to this case, and I can tell you it wasn't a gang issue... it was a stupid youth issue.

Don't go spreading rumors for rumor's sake GuestZero.........

Letting him off this light makes no good public example, except that young offenders will get off light. That doesn't serve the public good, it sends a terrible message.

I don't know the answers, but I'm angry about this faux "justice".

I don't give a damn how tragic his life was, this kid is in fact a predator and his record before committing murder reflects that. His family was tragic.

But what in his program of incarceration will fix that? I expect it will make him even worse. His home living was nearly as bad.

Putting people or predators in overcrowded pens is to cause them to live in a violent madhouse. Similar to the conditions that make them criminals. History shows as I recall that this rarely "rehabilitates" anyone. It creates more viscous animals with better predatory skill sets.

Use him for a target on the local pistol range. It would be kinder and cheaper with nearly the same chance of "rehabilitation".

Not a gang issue?

Holy crap, anyone see any pigs flying? I agree with Prime3end on something.

I get sick to death of hearing the excuses for inexcusable behavior.

I'm sure many people who had a "hard life" or childhood grew into decent productive human beings. Trouble is, it seems nowadays that no one wants to take responsibility for their own actions.

There is NO hope for justice. Liberal Toledo and its liberal judges won't dispense justice. They bleed union blue liberalism.

Upso, I cannot reveal my source. I trust this source implicitly, and they have sufficient links into the facts of this case.

Random crimes like Jemison's are done for reasons of gang initiation. The profile of the crook and the crime are too close to that, therefore even the uninformed public should be suspecting that it's a gang crime.

Sorry that that offends you, as it obviously does ... but it's still the statistical truth. And my contact clinches it. So please stop misleading the public on this issue. Jemison is a gang member. He's lucky that we're still such a civilized people that we don't shoot him in the head after the verdict.

Like I said, Toledo officials take great pains to assure us that there are no gang problems. But the gang problems are big, and rising. At this rate, you should expect to see convenience-store executions within 3 years. The gangs will raise the stakes, since more drug and gun money will be flowing in territories that gangs will try to claim.

call it like you want

For what it’s worth, I had a brief association with the Toledo’s Gang Task Force years ago. During that period I was told that, in efforts to enforce a zero tolerance policy, they treated ‘wannabes” as hard- core gang members. I personally thought this seamed a little over zealous. At any rate, I don’t know the details of this case as GZ and Upso, both of whom I respect, do but, it would not surprise me that it was an initiation or perhaps the police assuming the youth to fit the profile and pattern for gang affilation.

Incidentally, As recent as two years ago, the area known as Collingwood Springs ( I think), Bancroft at Collingwood heading away from the adjacent OWE was the worst block in Toledo for gangs and arrests. They were also rather pleased that the burning of one of old apartments on that block would provide at least some amelioration for the problem.

Watch the MLK area bridge too, very nasty goings on now on the east side. Long time residents now fear walking to the store without a weapon.

"very nasty goings on now on the east side", Now? Its been going on for a very LONG time. The're just not trying to hide it anymore.

I drove down east broadway from front and there was 2 gang bangers standing on a porch with his gun in his pants. Plainly visible and his hand right near it. This was in broad daylight.

I wont even bother with the "MAJOR WEIGHT" dealers that lived down the street from me. They would do distributions to lower level dealers in their driveway - in broad daylight! We finally moved when the gunshots started coming and going in the middle of the night. And we are never going back!

Agreed, it's been going on for a long time, worse than ever now and no scaled up police effort is even possible as the city is beyond broke. Very good that you were able to get out.

The citizens should be overjoyed that they live in a country that specifically recognizes their right to keep and bear arms. If attacked on the way to store, you put your assailants into the grave. The end result is that the gangs will remain subdued, purely as a self defense. The tradeoff is that they will just prey on the weakest members in society.

Which is why our social integrity is so crucial a factor. Don't let this go like Detroit did. Remain involved.

I still care about the city, i work in the city. I'm just not willing to live in the city anymore. It's nice not having to sleep with my gun anymore. 8-)

Incident citizens get hurt by gang crimes and the costs of law enforcement and incarceration etc. but, mostly gangs hurt each other. Even on those prison shows there are gangs fighting gangs. It’s about the dumbest most ridiculous lifestyle imaginable. Effin idiots. Too bad innocents get in the crossfire.

Offshore, no gang has the right to turn your neighborhood into a war zone.

No shit! How'd you get that from my statement?

tm, can I ask where you lived in Toledo? Because there are certainly safe areas all around. I know I feel perfectly safe in my neighborhood.

Because: Offshore, you aren't caught in a crossfire when you're out there as a defending citizen shooting these thugs dead as they deserve. There are no real bystanders when your neighborhood is concerned. If you just huddle in your home while thugs and thugs and then cops shoot it out, eventually you will be victimized by ALL THOSE GROUPS.

Literally: Anyone who brandishes a gun and then starts murdering people in your neighborhood is fair game for your bolt-action sniper rifle. Just point at their torsos from shelter and squeeze that trigger. Let the police come along and sweep up the trash (i.e. the dead thug) and eventually the gangs will get the message: Riot on Offshore's street, and you wind up DEAD.

Of course, 99% of you yuppies and other worthless pukes have no courage for that. You just huddle in your homes until one of the thugs guns you down or (as became popular on my street) burns you out. One broken window, one tossed Molotov cocktail, and you'll be lucky to get out alive.

This is really a WAR, Offshore. Don't shy from it.

wow

You yuppies and worthless pukes! Ha, how cute. Stop acting like a crybaby and, again tell me how I suggested defending the war zone comment?

Ryan, I lived in East Toledo. I imagine there are some really nice neighborhoods in Toledo, but being from the east side, i don't know them 8-)

TM2, East Toledo doesn't have to be that way. That recent death on Burnham (West Toledo) is kind of how neighborhoods can die off. People become complacent. At least around here (East Toledo for me) neighbors GET INVOLVED. Yes, even if there is gunfire. We can't just leave the streets to the mean; there must be a presence of the just.