Does anyone see the new schedule anywhere? I was trying to update my calendar without having to stress my brain, lol, but the Toledo website doesn't show it yet. Maybe it is posted somewhere else.
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Last I heard, Mayor-elect Bell was looking into going back to scheduled days without the "roll forward" days.
I kinda hope that he goes back to the old schedule... I completely understand the thought that the floating trash days will save overtime but it's gotten to the point that many of the older folks in my neighborhood have just set the trash out at the begining of the week and wait for it to be collected
Can someone tell me, now that I have the new giant trash cans.. do I go ahead and start using them or do I have to wait?
Seems like a waste of tax dollars to back to the old way. I'm sorry that a few old people and radio show hosts can't figure out the schedule, but is the perfect place save some tax dollars.
Oddly enough those in my neighborhood who are having the most trouble with the new schedule are mainly the elderly folks and one guy who still has a bunch of Kerry stickers all over his car
It's easy to criticize the new system. With all the radio, tv and internet, the schedule could be broadcast to help even the most "out of touch" citizens.
I have a copy of the schedule, but when I forget, I just look to see if the neighbors put theirs out.
I can figure out the pick up schedule - does anyone have the schedule on when we'll be getting our new cans?
Closest I can get from my councilman is "sometime between November and February"...
Billy, go here: Cart Delivery Schedule
I don't have an issue with the pickup schedule. I printed out the calendar and stuck it on the fridge. Haven't seen the 2010 schedule yet, but then again, I haven't looked for it.
I did the same thing Valbee, and it's not really that hard of a system. However, some people may not have Internet access and/or printers to print themselves a copy. Hopefully the Blade will print a 2010 calendar in full color to help those people out. If they promote the edition I bet it would sell a lot more daily papers that day than average.
you can also get copies at Krogers, I think they're on the end of the checkouts.
What would REALLY save the OT is to privatize the trash collection - period. Knowing that would likely never see the light of day in Toledo, why not have crews that work Mon-Fri and crews that work Tue-Sat? Go back to the same day schedule that worked well for decades. Where is it written that a city worker can't work on Saturday without being paid quadruple time? Doesn't make sense to me that spending millions on the unwieldly new cans and the trucks to empty them is saving us taxpayers any money - short term or long term. There are many seniors in my neighborhood. How they are going to manage hauling these cans to the curb, placed at the proper position - on streets that don't get plowed in the winter is a mystery to me. I'll bet a year from now when we all have these monsters and have gone through a winter with them - there will be a huge outcry to return to the "old" method. It will be interesting to see how this ill-planned fiasco plays out.
So we just throw any recyclables in the new "recyclable" bin? cans/paper etc. all together?
I can't put anything in my recyclable bin. It's clogged with politicians.
System works for me. The old west end has been on the "trial" thing for a while now and we've had no issues. It's WAY easier to haul the recyclables down the driveway, along with the trash, with those wheels. Before, we were stuck carrying blue bin after blue bin and dragging those unwieldy trash cans... things are much easier now. One thing I've noticed in life is some peope hate change, regardless of how much life is improved because they are just inertly against it.
I agree, Len, there's always a huge outcry when things change, then everyohne settles down and figures out the best way to work it into their life. Maybe some enterprising younguun in teh neighborhood could hire himself out to the old folks as a bin wheeler? People need to quit whining and remember they aren't the ones really paying the price for this new system, the guys who are losing their jobs are. get a grip, people.
TO, yes, throw everything recyclable into the same bin, cardboard included. It will be sorted at the recycling facility.
Foodie, please dont exaggerate your facts and get all riled up. The workers were paid double time for holidays and time and 1/2 for OT. My Hub is a retired refuse worker and he ruined his joints doing 35 yrs of that job. Go work it and see how you like the 'old way'. The one-armed system will reduce our BWC claims bigtime and the new jumping day system WILL reduce OT costs, it's been proven in other cities, St. Pete, FL for one. Once they get used to handling the trucks and having to go down some streets twice, it will be a better system for everyone, EXCEPT the guys who lost their jobs.
no offense intended, but the trash union workers got too much money for the job.
The job requires very little training and should have been paid accordingly. The job is an entry level job and should have been regarded as one in pay.
Every single job cannot pay a "living wage" just because unions think so. Look at what that cost them now, lost jobs.
How can you privatize the system, even though i think it would be for the best. Do you think they would repeal the taxes you already pay for trash services, or the "extra trash fee" that they imposed for it? Im not even sure that fee actually pays for trash service.
spot on hockeyfan - if you've got a job where your replacement can be trained in what, 30 seconds? then 20-30bucks per hour is ridiculous.
Oh, and Linecrosser? NO, the 'extra trash fee' doesnt go specifically for trash. it goes into the general fund.
so think about this - the general fund is funded thru tax dollars. the extra trash fee is just tacked on to our water bill, and then goes into the general fund. Does that sound like a legal way to get tax dollars from us?
Nana: My "quadruple" time comment was meant for emphasis on the issue not what I really believe these folks are paid for working OT.
And, I am not in the least opposed to change for the good. What I am opposed to is government ramming something down the throats of it's citizens when a majority of them oppose it - with the only true reason being to insure their re-election by taking care of the union vote.
Last I heard, those displaced by the marvelous new cost saving way of collecting our refuse will be laterally moved elsewhere within the city. And, while I don't wish to see anyone lose their job, times are tough out there. The private sector has been slashing and cutting like crazy to keep their budgets balanced. A concept the public sector has never really grasped. Every city should follow the statement made by Detroit's mayor "if it's in the Yellow Pages, the city shouldn't be doing it." Whether or not Mayor Bing actually lives up to that statement remains to be seen.
As for recycling, my household has been doing that for years - on our own. Separating paper, containers and cardboard and making regular trips to the local Kroger recycling center rain, snow or shine. Works well for me. Will curbside recycling be more convenient? Absolutely. Do I wish to be forced to pay ever higher taxes for that convenience and have to house 2 large buckets somewhere on my property to accomodate some weasel politician's dream? Absolutely not.
But my fellow Toledoans, you all keep voting for the same old, same old and look where that has gotten us. On the verge of financial collapse and a reputation as one of the most non business friendly cities in the country.
Toledo's chickens have been coming home to roost. It will take far more than an economic recovery to solve Toledo's problems. Folks here need to grasp the reality that most of the thousands of high paying auto related jobs lost that have sustained us for so long, aren't ever coming back.
"Do you think they would repeal the taxes you already pay for trash services, or the "extra trash fee" that they imposed for it?"
Obviously, the answer is "No" to repealing the trash fee implemented in the spring of 2007, since the city is now too dependent upon that tax money. That's why the tyrannical mayor and the dimwitted Toledo Blade editorial board wanted to increase this trashy city tax in 2009. The money from this so-called 'refuse fee' (city tax) goes into the general fund to be used (wasted) in many ways.
And now because too many Toledoans recycle, they don't get the refuse fee discount, orginally promised by government. Shocking that government would break a promise. "Fee" is the polite form of the word "tax."
"One thing I've noticed in life is some peope hate change, regardless of how much life is improved because they are just inertly against it."
I guess that explains the recent re-elections of people like Rob Ludeman to Toledo city council and Larry Sykes to the Toledo public school board. Holy hell.
Well, at least we have Jon Stainbrook around to keep things interesting.
Ugh, I have tried for two days in a row now to access the 2010 trash collection calendar on the city's website and I just keep getting error messages.
Does anyone know if the schedule is posted anywhere else, like on any local news outlet's website?
Here's the city's page. Can anyone else access the calendar? http://www.ci.toledo.oh.us/
It is posted in the Blade today. I saw it on their website.
The link doesn't work for me. This was posted on a friend's facebook account, though:
JeepMaker was right.
Here it is!
Thanks, you guys. I was just coming back to post the link to the Blade version, but you beat me. ;)
By the way, I thumbed through today's print edition of the Blade and didn't see it.
My question is: When it's cold and the cans are brittle or the wind blows tham into the street and they are hit; who is responsible for broken cans? What do replacements cost and who pays?
I'd hate to see the wind that can blow one of those into the street, but I imagine calling the city will get you a replacement.
They aren't heavy... but they weigh enough that the average "windy day" isn't going to blow them into the street.
I've seen one can knocked over by a car (I suspect a drunk driver because they didn't even stop). I walked over to my neighbors house, an elderly lady, propped it back up, and put all of her trash back in (LAME). Those bins can take a licking.
hockeyfan i bet you take that job...no matter what it pays
I think you'll have fewer bins laying around in the street then you're used to seeing on windy days. For one, the new containers are heavier than most of the regular cans people were using. And two, the automated truck will set the collection bins back down properly, upright, unlike actual trash collector people who I have watched many times just haphazardly toss cans back onto the curbs, not seeming to care how or where they landed.