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NRA approved CCW classes

You shooting fans out there -

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/Ohio-CCW-Instructors lists a bunch of licensed CCW instructors out there for lucas county.

Does anyone have any frame of reference as to who to go to, or maybe more importantly, who to avoid?

Thanks

created by billy on Apr 12, 2010 at 03:12:23 pm     Legal     Comments: 49

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I've heard good things about the classes at Owens.

https://www.owens.edu/cep/
https://www.owens.edu/cep/training.html

posted by toledolen_ on Apr 12, 2010 at 03:28:40 pm     #  

Wife and I used Todd Zautner 419-601-0389
Came recommended. Very impressed.

posted by Trilby on Apr 13, 2010 at 07:57:39 am     #  

I was very satisfied with the class that Ski Firearms Offered. For $150 they keep the class size small (5 people max), you knock it out all in one day, he provides the gun and all the ammo, plus lunch and snacks through out the day.

posted by dbw8906 on Apr 13, 2010 at 09:13:52 am     #  

Did mine through Ski's too. It was great...good stories...good guy. I enjoyed all the guns he had available to look at too. Overall A+ class.

posted by ShonuffisDead on Apr 13, 2010 at 11:17:01 am     #  

Im hearing good things about ski's myself -

posted by billy on Apr 13, 2010 at 01:53:58 pm     #  

Im hearing good things about ski's myself -

posted by billy on Apr 13, 2010 at 01:55:01 pm     #  

Anyone have any other suggestions? I'm thinking of checking out Ski's...

posted by upso on Jul 11, 2011 at 10:50:04 am     #  

For anyone ever contemplating a Florida vacation---I teach the course for $45 dollars + you pay a $12 range fee directly to the range. You have your choice of an indoor or outdoor range (weather permitting). There is no time limit on the range use (all day) and they both have a huge stock of rental firearms. I can also arrange machine gun shoots. Your second NRA course is $25+ the range fee. Why so inexpensive? Because I don't do this for a living. I have a day job. The NRA courses are a public service.

posted by Wydowmaker on Jul 11, 2011 at 11:46:38 am     #  

Upso my wife just completed the training @ Ski's, another thumbs up! He is not a macho gun guy, a real down to earth approach to self defense (run before you shoot). No Mall Ninjas or CCW Extra Police coming outta Ski's classes.

Wydomaker - I do work in Alabama and my Ohio CHL is not recognized there, I would be interested in the Florida CCW class. I've got all the paperwork filled out just need to take the class.

posted by dbw8906 on Jul 11, 2011 at 11:53:22 am     #  

DBW--

You don't need to take a class to get your Florida permit. Florida recognizes your Ohio CCW and also grants out of state permits. ^You just need to fill out the paperwork. Your NRA course and your Ohio permit are good here. I would have to check Alabama law to see if they recognize Florida out of state permits. Some reciprical states do and some do not. Also, for any honorably discharged military vets--- Florida requires no course--- just a copy of your discharge or DD213.

posted by Wydowmaker on Jul 11, 2011 at 12:12:33 pm     #  

DBW---

I just checked the Alabama AG's site and it simply says that Alabama recognizes fully the Florida permit. No mention of instate or out of state holders. So I am reading that our permit issued to you would be good in Alabama.

posted by Wydowmaker on Jul 11, 2011 at 12:23:34 pm     #  

my wife and I took ski's class in may. Nobody's mentioning that Tom makes it FUN as well as informative!! Take it as a couple. And bring your camera. the photo my wife took of me holding the thompson sub machine gun is my new FB profile photo!!

posted by billy on Jul 11, 2011 at 12:30:37 pm     #  

BTW, to picture the location in your mind, Ski's place is on Woodville rd across from what was (or is?) the Great Eastern Shopping Center

posted by billy on Jul 11, 2011 at 12:33:43 pm     #  

In case anyone else is looking for additional instructors or opinions about CCW classes in Toledo area check out the forums on http://ohioccwforums.org/. It is for all of Ohio but there a quite of few people from Toledo/NW Ohio that are more than willing to give you information. There is great amount of info on the site as well. My wife and I will be taking out CCW classes hopefully at the end the month and it has been very informative.

posted by douglasadietz on Jul 11, 2011 at 01:23:54 pm     #  

thanks for the tips everyone. i'm going with ski's!

posted by upso on Jul 11, 2011 at 03:23:12 pm     #  

I'd go to Ski's. The only instructor that I recommend you stay away from is "Bull's Eye" Bob Graham in Swanton, OH.

posted by madjack on Jul 11, 2011 at 03:28:42 pm     #  

huh, we were considering Cleland's before it burned, now we've kinda lost steam on the idea. With Ski's just up the road, sounds like I need to bring the subject back up. thanks, guys!

posted by nana on Jul 11, 2011 at 06:29:46 pm     #  

for the low cost involved, it seems like a no brainer to do it, even if you aren't planning on carrying.

posted by upso on Jul 11, 2011 at 08:18:38 pm     #  

am i a big loser because i just hate guns?

posted by Ryan on Jul 11, 2011 at 09:59:14 pm     #  

you don't have to love guns to want to know how to properly use them.

posted by upso on Jul 11, 2011 at 10:36:06 pm     #  

You don't have to love them too want to go home safe. I carry car insurance even though I hope to never be in a crash, same logic with my other forms of protection.

posted by dbw8906 on Jul 12, 2011 at 05:08:06 am     #  

am i a big loser because i just hate guns?

Oh no, not at all. There are many other reasons.

::rimshot and canned laughter::

posted by madjack on Jul 12, 2011 at 07:44:58 am     #  

I took my class at Clelands. It was great. I fully expected it to be painfully boring but they made it very interesting. Plus it doesn't hurt having a multiple time national shooting champ teach the marksmanship portion of the class.

posted by JeepMaker on Jul 12, 2011 at 09:42:05 am     #  

Ryan---

I teach gun safety courses where some of my students have never owned or fired a gun and never intend to. They just want to have a better understanding of the machine. And that is all a firearm is, a machine. I also teach more than a few ex "gun haters". Their attitude changed after they were raped, robbed or had someone in their family murdered. When seconds count the police are only minutes away.

posted by Wydowmaker on Jul 12, 2011 at 11:57:34 am     #   2 people liked this

When pricing out CCW classes - bear in mind that some have their price AND require you to bring in your firearm and your own ammo... if you already own your own firearm, you have an idea of how much extra that adds to the cost.

Tom Urbanski does NOT want you to bring a firearm - he supplies both the weapon AND the ammo. For someone looking to get a gun his is the way to go - because after his class you'll have handled several weapons and will have a better idea of what the right one for you is.

posted by billy on Jul 12, 2011 at 12:49:54 pm     #  

Out of curiosity Ryan - why do you 'just hate' guns?

does that hatred stick with the iron, or apply to the owners too?

posted by billy on Jul 12, 2011 at 04:08:34 pm     #  

Wyndow, where are you in Florida?

posted by 6th_Floor on Jul 14, 2011 at 04:03:08 am     #  

http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

dbw, if you are driving regularly to Alabama, you may want to look into getting a permit from a state such as Utah. You don't have to be a resident, nor to you have to go to Utah to receive a permit. You fill out a form and pay a small fee. Having a Utah CCW will make your Ohio CCW legal in Alabama via reciprocity. You can get the information from the Utah AG site.

I believe New Hampshire has a program similar to Utah that only requires you to mail a form and pay a fee for a permit that adds several reciprocity states.

With the number of cops along the highways in Georgia, it's wise to have reciprocity there if you are going to be driving through Georgia with a firearm.

Georgia DOES NOT have reciprocity with Ohio, but KY, TN, and FL do have reciprocity agreements with Ohio.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jul 14, 2011 at 04:26:24 am     #  

dbw, what I meant to post was if you obtain a Utah CCW, you will have reciprocity to legally carry in Alabama via the Utah permit.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jul 14, 2011 at 04:45:58 am     #  

Thanks! The company I 1099 for is really directing a lot of their operations South, so gotta do something in a hurry.

I spent last week in the Cumberland Gap National Park (my God what a beautiful area) and was really amazed by the amount of people who open carry. I chatted with a couple of locals there and they didn't carry because of high crime (very low crime rate) or because of race reasons (a growing Hispanic population) but "because if I call the cops it's going to take them 45 mins to get here so I have to take care of my family and myself" - BINGO!

posted by dbw8906 on Jul 14, 2011 at 07:25:00 am     #  

6th--

I live in Brandon Fl. It's about 12 mi outside of Tampa. On a map it's almost where I-4 and I-75 cross.

posted by Wydowmaker on Jul 14, 2011 at 08:43:02 am     #  

If I travelled a lot, I'd seriously look into getting licensed thru florida.

posted by billy on Jul 14, 2011 at 09:07:12 am     #  

this is scary
http://ohioccw.org/cantonpd

posted by jhop on Jul 20, 2011 at 11:24:25 pm     #  

Very scary. Someone needs to test that pos officer for steroid abuse.

posted by toledolen_ on Jul 20, 2011 at 11:45:02 pm     #  

Notification is so abused, how many of your other rights do your need "card checked" for. A vast majority of the CCW States do not require notification and there are no rivers filled with cop blood. It doesn't nothing to make the cop or the carrier safer.

You think the guy carrying illegally is going to tell the cop? So why should law abiding citizens be put through the ringer. I'm sure a gang banger is going notify the officer of his 9mm before he deiced to fire upon the cop, you know he would want to be legal before he committed murder.

OFCC does GREAT work for Ohioans.

posted by dbw8906 on Jul 21, 2011 at 06:54:15 am     #  

There is also a discussion going on about this over on the Ohioans for concealed carry forum. I believe OFCC is going to get a defense fund started for this gentleman last time I heard, so if anyone is interested in throwing a few bucks towards a good cause.

posted by lfrost2125 on Jul 21, 2011 at 08:10:53 am     #  

they said on the radio that the city would drop the charges if this guy promises not to sue!!??

and if he DOESNT make that promise what are they gonna do?? It's all on film! he didnt do anything!

posted by billy on Jul 21, 2011 at 03:49:52 pm     #  

i think they will end up doing more than dropping the charges.

posted by jhop on Jul 21, 2011 at 04:24:37 pm     #  

I've been following this story as well. OFCC is doing an excellent job bringing attention to the issues that "notification" brings up. I hope the gentleman that was harassed by the Canton PD wins big and that this case is monumental in removing the notification requirement in OH for ccw license holders.

posted by douglasadietz on Jul 22, 2011 at 08:27:55 pm     #  

http://www.thenaturalresource.com/members/J0110.php

http://www.jjsgunsandthings.net/

I just loved Joe. Great instructor!

posted by SherryET on Jul 24, 2011 at 04:32:18 pm     #  

i have driven by jj's at least 20 times and have never seen it open.

posted by jhop on Jul 24, 2011 at 10:04:29 pm     #  

"Canton's police chief Dean McKimm issued his own a statement last week about the incident. "The behavior demonstrated on the video is wholly unacceptable and it violates many rules, regulations and standards we demand of our officers."

Harless has been on paid administrative leave since June 20."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/26/ohio-cop-curses-out-gun-owner_n_910367.html

I can't believe they are still paying him.

posted by toledolen_ on Jul 27, 2011 at 01:55:12 am     #  

^^^ Len it's the wonder of Unions.

posted by dbw8906 on Jul 27, 2011 at 06:22:00 am     #  

@JeepMaker:
"I took my class at Clelands. It was great. I fully expected it to be painfully boring but they made it very interesting. Plus it doesn't hurt having a multiple time national shooting champ teach the marksmanship portion of the class."

^^Ditto. Just took their CCW course yesterday. I assume your instructor was also Chad. He's amazing. Like you, I was prepared for a very long, boring day (8am to 9pm). It was anything but. Learned a tremendous amount of info including non-lethal defense, how to try to keep yourself safe at and away from home. I also liked the fact that Chad teaches "flight" not "fight" - whenever possible. Their course isn't the least expensive in town but, like most everything else, you get what you pay for.

Highly recommended.

posted by Foodie on Feb 19, 2013 at 04:38:25 pm     #  

Congratulations Foodie!

For anyone who is new to guns one of the better resources that was shared to me was video's that are uploaded on YouTube by Hickock45. He has many video's on specific guns but also a great deal of video's with tips for beginners on proper shooting, gun selection and a variety of gun related subjects.

This is his video for new shooters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGYf9AZlSyU&list=UUvB3solmhqtgDeLpD-yTtfg&index=2&feature=plcp

His tips were instrumental in my gun selection as well as some nice safety tips.

posted by Danneskjold on Feb 19, 2013 at 05:33:39 pm     #  

Yeah, Congratulations Foodie.

posted by madjack on Feb 19, 2013 at 06:18:12 pm     #  

Thanks Gents. Really glad I did it - for so many reasons but not the least of which is the knowledge I gained.

Now, if we could only find some ammo............

posted by Foodie on Feb 19, 2013 at 06:23:18 pm     #  

Clelands is my choice.

posted by Elva on Feb 19, 2013 at 07:31:48 pm     #  

Congrats, glad you enjoyed the experience.

posted by JeepMaker on Feb 19, 2013 at 08:38:58 pm     #