Just Curious About Your Toledo Roots

Moved to Oregon in '59, back when St Charles was the end of the world, lol. When you could do anything from buy groceries to get a tooth filled to take dance lessons at Great Eastern. Fred Fisher's market on Delence St, he was a butcher too. Anything on the other side of the river was "way out"... way out Monroe St, way out Central. And going shopping downtown meant dressing up in your good clothes and taking a bus.

West Toledo, right near Westfield Mall. Mall was a small plane airport. Franklin's Ice Cream, Putt-Putt, Tansey's Store, Par 3 golf course @ Talmadge/Monroe (Now Anderson's). Krotzer's steak house, Willows, etc

Chase and Ohio. Riverside Park, Riverside Elementary, Yum-Yum Hamburgers, Hans Hanson Marine, Albrings, Bernie's and Gose's Market, Erie Foods, Rink's Bargin City/Ontarios, Jack's Barbershop, Shetlers, Bill's TV on Chicago (which is STILL there), Homer's Cycles/Lionel Hobbies, and McDonald's in the Point near Suder!

South End of Toledo. Bowsher High School graduate. Lived in Toledo until 1998. Now living east of Toledo.

Originally from Detroit, I began my life in Toledo in 1989 when a company I once owned began researching and then purchased some restaurants here. We first lived in Sylvania, and then we purchased a home in West Toledo in 1993.

Great start of comments. Prairieson, re: Great Eastern and Miricle Mile were built at about the same time and my Dad did the grading work for them. And before Swayne Field was a Shopping Center, the Mud Hens played there and I knew where they let a Kid sneak through the fence after the fifth inning.

Franklin Park Mall was Franklin Field, and air field. There was also one off Telegraph Road called Telegraph Field.

Come on folks and chip in. Erie and Bush above the Drug Store. CPSA Club.

I forgot some of my memories of Toledo matters now disappeared. Here goes: Barclay Paints at Deveaux Village, the little magic shop that was on Sylvania just east of Douglas (lots of cool gags like fake ice cubes with flies inside), Timko's Soup and Such, the Al Smith's Place on Lewis (yeah, there is still one near Westgate, but the original was better), Hotlix Hideaway on Alexis, NorthTowne Square (owned a business there that hemorrhaged cash, but the mall was once a decent place to shop), and the coin shop on Sylvania near Upton (an old Dutch guy ran it and the building was a modified house).

Oh, let's not forget the Portside Festival Marketplace on the riverfront (converted to COSI, which is now the Imagination Station).

Great Thread.
historymike I think you mean Carrothers. Fun place, and Teds wife Cindy taught piano in the back.
http://www.toledomagic.com/Carrothers.htm

I'm a Wernerts Corners baby myself. Woolworths at Miracle Mile with their lunch counter, down the sidewalk from Pet Palace and Lanes drugstore. Walking down to Bargain City at DeVeaux.

Drive in Theater on Jackman, and sitting in a friends apartment at Miracle Manor watching a movie with no sound.

Little restaurant next door to Hinkles Donuts. And running down to Hinkles first think on Sunday mornings to grab a bag of day old doughnuts for a dollar.
High School football games at Whitmer, then Pizza at Pizza Inn.

Yes! Carrother's Magic. Thanks!

Grew up on Alexis Road. Moved to South Avenue when I was 16. I remember when Alexis was two lanes (they had a parade when the two lanes was finished as four lanes). Lots of mom-and-pop stores then. Went to Westwood Elementary, then Washington Junior High, then Whitmer for a year. Used to walk up in Michigan a lot. You could tell where the state line was. The blacktop turned to dirt roads in Michigan.

I didn't grow up in Toledo, but I do remember coming here for a couple of birthday parties when I was a little kid. Ice cream parlor at Franklin Park Mall - think it was called Farrell's or something like that? I remember they sold giant lollipops, and the place seemed so magical (at least to a kid). :)

Aside from a few trips here as a kid, I'm a relative newbie to the Toledo area. Started working downtown in 2000, and have been in the general area ever since.

Live in West Toledo now but spent most of my life in the Reynolds Corners area. First job I ever had was working at RCR lanes, then it was Tansels Amoco at Dorr and Holland-Sylvania.

Monroe & Sylvania = Shakee's Pizza was the place to go

born & raised in bowling green. moved to perrysburg for 6 & 7th grade. moved to toledo in 8th grade and spent high school in south toledo by the zoo (on amherst). Did one year at St. Johns and hated it so I ended up at Bowsher which I loved. Spent a ton of time in Downtown toledo due to my mom's involvement in the warehouse district and her parent's restaurant, and also spent quite a bit of time in Grand Rapids ohio due to my grandmothers business. Left for college in Chicago and spent two years there (95-97) ended up back in Bowling Green and graduated from BGSU in 2000. Spent 6 years living downtown and then 3+ years ago I bought a house in the Old West End. I love it here.

This is a Great and I hope a positive thread. Let's keep this walk down memory lane going...

Ok here we go with some more. O'Brians Ribs on Monroe St. just east of Secor. Bundy Brothers Pure Oil and Truck Stop on Monroe and Secor. Polar Bear Custard at Monroe and Sylvania. Jack's Model Shop on Lewis just north of Sylvania. My Dad cleared the woods to build Westgate. And Sears across the street. The Moron Burger at the Holland House. WTOD-AM Rocked as did WOHO-AM. West Toledo "Y" dance on Friday night as well as the Music Box on Central Ave just west of Upton and their Friday or Saturday night Teen Dances. Cruising the Sylvania and Lockwood White Huts. Drag Racing on Enterprize Road just after it was built before buildings were there.

A week every summer in August at a rented cottage at Devils Lake. Three or four families shared expences. A great vacation.

West Toledo, near Eleanor and Jackman. I remember going to see movies and play arcade games at North Towne, going to Sterlings all the time for candy and also the ice cream stand next door (now Bambinos pizza), and going to Lanes on Sylvania. I have vague memories of Franklin ice cream and Long John Silver's because I loved getting toys from their dispenser in the front. I enjoyed going to a stationary shop on Sylvania near the West Toledo branch library, where I also spent many hours. I also used to like to take walks at Bowman Park, swim in the pool or play tennis there with my dad. Sadly, those days are over.

South Toledo, Glendale area. Heyday of Southwyck, New York Carpet World, the Pizza Hut location on the corner, and the Little Caesars pizza parlor that my parents would take me to. After dinner, they'd let me roam around Peaches record store (now Savers thrift store). I loved that place.

Any prescription I had as a kid was filled by Lanes drug store inside Southwick Mall with the AMC theaters across the way and Red Baron arcade and Coney Island Hot Dog just a few more steps into the mall.

Also, Rudy's Hot Dog @ Eastgate & Glendale...the old Sohio station (before it became Monettes), and Mid Am bank on the corner (which when it was built was promoted to the neighborhood as "ultra secure and robbery-resistant"...of course it got cleanly robbed 2 weeks after opening with the perps running through my parents back yard).

Upso--sorry your experience at St. John's was bad. I went all 4 years and liked it a lot.

It wasn't so bad. I just needed more ladies in ny day to day life. :) and peaches! Holy crap I forgot about that awesome record store

Grew up in West Toledo. We had a huge 6 bedrooom house and people thought we were rich, but we weren't. We just had 5 kids! No worries ever and all was good. Walked or rode bikes everywhere. Hinkles donuts was a Sunday tradition. After school lived in Polish Village. No offense, but that was a wake up call. Lots of crime going on. But we were young and having fun, a bunch of 20's sharing a house. At times there would be 8 of us, cheap rent for sure. Fell in love with Point Place (the old part) and bought a house there 8 years ago. I love Toledo.

Wow rch101 you have a great memory. I have lived in Toledo all my life. Grew up in West Toledo until 5th grade and moved to South Toledo. Reading these posts you can almost tell how old the poster is. I remember Kiddie Land next to Par 3 at Monroe and Talmadge, as well as the Green Derby that was next to Shakee's pizza. Kewpees at Wernerts corners brings fond memories. In South Toledo there was a hamburg place that was next to Southland on Glendale, called Sandy's. They would run a special 5 cheeseburgs for a $1.00. My friend and I would buy 5 and walk over to the Glenbyrne movie theatre, watch a movie and eat cheeseburgs. Those were the days!

Well trixanne, you're catching my tricks.

I remember Secor and Alexis before Brandes Ford was built. There was a Grocery Store on the west side of Secor that had a real airplane displayed in the front of the building. And all of the places you mention I also remember. And I remember those areas before the places you mention were there. Next to Kiddy Land there was a Swimming Pool store that had open swimming for a small fee. We used to ride bikes there and swim, or we went to Scott Park or for a quick dip we went to Willys Pool. By the way, Willys Pool parking lot also was a great parking spot on a Friday or Saturday night. And yes.... Those were the days. I remember going to the first Ponderosa I ever saw at Westgate when I got out of the Army and had a $2.49 T-Bone Dinner... I watched Jeeps coming off the assembly line and parking on the roof from my back porch. I watched the National Guard on Wall Steet mobilize for the riots in 1967. A very bad time. Lanes Drug Store ran out of Police Radios.

I know I'm all over the road with my thoughts. But that's the fun of it. Visuallizing a Chocolate Malt made with Bordens Ice Cream at Unger's on Deleware just west of Detroit Ave.

Come on Friends... We're on a roll here. Let's keep this fun ride rolling as fast as the Go-Karts at the track next to Bargin Barn on North Detroit Ave. And later we'll stop for an ice cold Buckeye at the Ottawa Tavern on Bancroft...

I'm just a small town boy, born and raised south of Detroit.

South Toledo - Bowsher grad. Old Glendale School. I can't remember what the pizza place was before Rag Time Ricks but I loved Southwyck and Old Time Square. Panderosa was by Churchill's... my grandfather took me there every couple of weeks. The parents took me to The Surf once a week. I would kill for their chicken chow mane (sp?). Anyone remember the pizza place on Byrne past Airport? I think it was take out only. Small place good pizza. Was it Shaky's?

Glendale School! I was going to mention that in my post, but I couldn't remember if that was the name or not.

I watched them tear that place down and build the fancy-schmancy condos on the property when I was a kid.

You probably remember the 7-11 on Eastgate that became a pet store--and has now reverted back to a convenience store!

The big snow in 78 or 79 a neighbor walked there for cat food for his cat. After he asked everyone if they needed anything he had a sled of groceries! Baseball on the Methodist Church lot was a blast!

I was in Saudi Arabia during the '77-'78 Blizzard and in Seattle during the '78-'79 storm. I missed them both and that was OK with me.

But let's travel back a little further in time to renting Honda 50 motor bikes at Rubini's Honda. Saturday night in the summer with your "steady girl" at Jesse James or Telegraph Drive-In's. Jug's Tavern was there before Jug's Bowling Center.

Born in Fremont, moved to Shoreland in'64.Alfalfa fields all around our neighborhood. Walked to Shoreland Elementary across the fields everyday.Neibs store on Shoreland,where we turned our pop bottles into cash for candy. I have 8mm movies from the 75 overpass on Suder of the Palm Sunday tornado aftermath,miss all the drive-ins, shooting Estes rockets @ the old Telegraph Airport,Howard Johnsons where the Ground Round is.And on and on!

Great thread! I remember nearly all of these places.
My mother was born on the third floor of a grand old house in Sylvania. My father was from Toledo and attended Devilbiss High School his freshman year then his family moved to Sylvania where both of my parents finished high school.
I grew up in Sylvania, did a couple of stints in the West, finished college and grad school at UT during which time we moved to Perrysburg where my wife is from.
I’ve never actually lived in Toledo but the area is my home.

I cant believe there was a landing strip where Franklin Park mall is! And, all of these drive-ins that used to be in Toledo. Holy crap!

I remember going to the Jesse James driving over on South and Reynolds....good times.

No roots here, but growing my own. Moved here July 2005, and have enjoyed it ever since.

Wecome INC!

Oops welcome

I was living on Alexis Road when Otto's was built on Secor. I remember when the comics went from 10 cents to 15 cents. I learned about inflation then. We used to walk up to Dr. Crocket on Secor Road when we had something mom felt we needed to see the doctor about. We would talk her into some candy or comic books at Otto's. That was when they had an ice skating rink on Secor near Reggie's bike shop. I went back to Reggie's last spring to have some work done on my nephews bikes. Of course, this isn't really Toledo, but Wernert's Corners with its own Volunteer Fire Department.

Wish I could have seen Toledo back in the 50's. Heard it was like the silicon valley of today but for manufacturing, Toled was the happening place to be.

The great thing about moving to South Avenue was that I was only a block from the old South Branch of the T-LCPL. I moved, and left all my friends behind, but that was some consolation. I met my best friend of the next two years while walking home from Libbey after about two weeks of school. Libbey was okay, but I had come from a fairly new school (Whitmer) and the dimly lit hallways (or it seemed so) of Libbey were a little depressing. Some of the teachers were awesome (Mr. Pappas in geometry, trigonometry, and physics) but the "plant" made you feel second-rate.

My husband's great-grandparents owned the farm that was located where Monroe & Alexis meet. (The land that became the plaza where The Pharm, Major Magic's, etc are.)

To hear his grandfather tell stories about his childhood at the family farm seems so crazy, because its hard to envision that property as farmland any more.

I'd love to see pictures of some of the old time Toledo stuff mentioned here. Anyone have recommendations on local history books or websites?

You should stop into Packo's at the Park, downtown Toledo! They have old time photos of downtown Toledo all over the place, including old pics of the old baseball field!

Toledo history via old bowling alleys - remember them?:
Hagerty Lanes
Park Lanes
West Toledo Recreation
Glenwood Lanes
Auburndale Lanes
New Barge Inn
Swayne Field Recreation
Regal Lanes
(Easy Ones):
University Lanes
Showcase Lanes
RCR
Imperial

I completely forgot about Kewpies! My grandma used to take me there.
Historic Images:
http://images2.toledolibrary.org/

Great Post on the Bowling Alleys. One you missed (unless I have the name wrong), is Colony Lanes in the basement of the Colony.

I'm really happy I started this thread...

Here's why... I was in Toledo last week-end on business and visited my old neighborhood of Detroit and Central. I was devistated. I've seen combat zones with let carnage. This was such an active and vibrant neighborhood and what's happened is criminal. And now, there's no turning back.

Only memories of what was a great place to live at one time. What do you think the current residents will have memories of in 30 years?

So let's continue with these great Posts and keep this great thread going about your memories of great things in your Toledo Neighborhood...

How 'bout the German-American Fesvival. Designated Driver is a must. And the Grade School Carnivals held at the end of the school year.

Come on Gang.... Let's keep it going.

Grew up in the Polish Village, walked to the Lagrange Street branch of the library, a huge old stone building at the corner of Lagrange and Central with incredible woodwork. Always joined the Summer Reading Club and went there to do crafts. I’d stay until it was just getting dark, then walk to my Busia’s on Warsaw Street and call my mom to come get me so I wouldn’t have to carry all my books home. Attended St. Vincent de Paul School, which was converted to St. Elizabeth Seton, then sold off as a charter school. Mr. Urbanski, owner of the funeral home on Lagrange, would give my Busia leftover funeral flowers, which she would put on my Dzia-Dzia’s grave. Bought comic books at Tom’s Variety, and at Tommy’s Carryout on Stickney. Went with the fam for pizza at Angelo’s on Stickney, played in Wilson Park, and had one sister who was a student at Woodward while the other one was a teacher there. We moved to West Toledo in 1975, but I still go to Stanley’s for kielbasa and kiszka.

Great post about Lagrange St. I used to love going to the Ohio Theater when I was a Kid on Sunday and always had a home made icecream sandwich. Years later had my first beer at Jabby's on Stickney Ave. It was a Buckeye Bock Beer and I was with a bunch of older Guys and didn't get carded. I was 16... Big for my age.

Ottawa Park concerts during the 70s. Hard to remember for many attendees!

I grew up in the Flanders and Alexis area. The NW corner of Flanders & Alexis was a cornfield, NE corner was undeveloped. A little further East on Alexis where some kind of old folks complex is now was a private home seated on top of what used to be the highest point in Lucas county - until it was flattened in the name of progress. Only in Toledo.

On the corner of Alexis & Whiteford was Lay's gas station. Across the street was a Tastee-Freeze ice cream place and a small grocery store called Manor's. Mr. Manor was a real nice man and taught me how to break a Popsicle in half without destroying it. The North East side of Whiteford road was the dogpatch neighborhood, where Jesse Williamson once beat the shit out of two all state wrestlers.

I attended Hillview Elementary, Burnham Jr. High and Sylvania High School. In downtown Sylvania there was a bowling alley, Lindau Drugs, Joe's Restaurant which closed shortly after one too many cases of food poisoning was reported, and no, I'm not kidding; a friend of mine got food poisoning at Joe's. There was also the Sylvania Art Center owned and operated by Henry Goodman. I wish I knew how to find Henry these days, but he vanished when I wasn't looking.

Franklin field was an actual air field, as was Telegraph and Alexis. I also remember The Willows restaurant on Monroe. Janey's Hardware, Alexis and Secor was a good place if you needed to know how to fix something or buy parts. There was a golf course where the Anderson's general store squats now.

On the SW corner of Talmadge and Monroe was a building the contained The Griddle Cake restaurant, Song's Korean Karate and the Fred Astaire Dance Studio. A little further South on Talmadge was the Steak & Ale restaurant.

Madjack, I remember all that shit. Jesse died a few years ago. What year did you graduate?

The bowling gods are happy you guys remembered Colony Lanes and the old Sylvania Lanes

You also forgot Jugs on Jackman. My grandpa's brother in law owned it for quite awhile, I believe till he passed away, not sure if it's still in the family or not.

Jugs is still in business...was referring to the dead ones

I know Jugs is still in business, I thought you were talking alleys in general, not dead ones. My bad

Also on Secor was the FaBa pronounced Fayba. A nightly (especially Fridays), hotspot for meeting Girls.

OK... Let's hit the east side for a while. The Funspot. Bay Shore Supper Club for "Whole Pickeral". The restaurant next to the Harbor Lights where they had a lunch special during the week waiting on the counter when you walked in. Sat down, ate, paid and back to work on a construction job at Standard Oil.

The Ship and Shore and the Seaway across from AMSHIP had the same set up along with a draft beer and a shot of Kestlers.

Woodville Surplus was a great place to buy tools and work clothes. Is the "Flying Bridge" Restaurant still open?

Woodville still IS a great place to buy tools, work clothes, camping equipment and school uniforms. I love that place.

Since you're talking East Side, anyone remember Duschl's in Oregon? My mom would buy string bologna there and we'd eat it in the car before we got home, being careful not to choke on the strings.

Madjack, I remember all that shit. Jesse died a few years ago. What year did you graduate?

Wasn't it about 1947 or so, Jack???

As for myself, I'm a Pennsylvania native, but my first vivid recollection of Toledo is getting off exit 4 of the Turnpike, traveling north on Reynolds Rd., and seeing, in a field off to my right....the 'Jefferson Airplane.'

(been covered in several threads on here through the years).

Mc,

Are you talking about the C-46 Cargo Plane that did the emergency landing at Straine's? Spring of 1977.

I was in Toledo then and that plane just about took the roof off my Folk's house..

Nope. Plane I'm talking about was there fall '73. Might be the same plane you referred to , but your date is off a few years.

Mc,

You're right... I was off some years. I remember now.

McCaskey, you are officially being ignored.

From OffShore: Jesse died a few years ago. What year did you graduate?

Sylvania High School, Class of 1970

Events I remember from good old SHS include old Zechman teaching driver's education and then falling asleep in the driver's ed. car while it was Northbound on US 23. The kids parked in downtown Ann Arbor and quietly got out and went to lunch. When they returned the cops had awakened the fat old walrus who failed to see the humor in the situation. Then there was the Senior Walk, when all the kids walked out of the school building one afternoon and took a lengthy stroll en masse. The Blade got a few photos but no interviews. I also remember that an M-80 would go off in the bathroom from time to time.

People - Smiling Ed Murbough, school principal. He looked like a Nazi sans monocle and riding crop. Richard Wright who taught drafting, Virgil White taught shop, and another guy, real tall and sour who taught carpentry shop. Tom Watson and Richard Fields were band directors. Watson managed to discourage any ideas I might have had for music, but then he was only a mediocre musician himself. Richard Fields was a real good musician and could really play.

Hey, in dog patch I remember Mike Fair, Tommy Fair, another Tom who was kind of tall and a decent guy, Paul Sharp, Bobby Williamson whom I knew way better than Jesse, Kim and Lynn Lewis, Mark Lindnere (sp), Mike O'Brien and John Gentry (who is still on the lam and still wanted for murder). I heard Jesse was pretty much finished by the time he died. He had a drinking and drug habit that eventually killed him. I always wondered what happened to Mike Fair.

Wasn't it about 1947 or so, Jack???

I don't know. My memory is failing me these days.

Weasel.

Don't forget the old Marathon Lanes on Sylvania. The building is still there, now it's a laundromat and tanning salon.

Madjack, I remember all those people. I graduated in '72. I remember when Jesse's brother Dewey got his as kicked by Scott Eberle who was a brainy nerd but had major huevos. Also, another bully, George Smith took a beating from jock Jeff Pridgeon. So much for the generation of love:)

i lived just a few doors from glenwood school but only til second grade. had a friend who's dad was a fireman at the station there on detroit and we would pop over there periodically. spent most of my time over toward cathedral. remember the longhorn salon and a grocery store on collingwood and of course the theater. moved to west toledo and hung out at westgate, the hobby store and kresges. the original boogie records location near douglas on central. remember being at the old cyo fields while a huge bloom of smoke rose over downtown - tiedkes. we would sneak onto ottawa at hole #5, play thru #8 and then cut over to play #13 - 16 mostly out of view of the clubhouse.

hung out at UT quite a bit as a kid starting just when they were taking down the barracks and getting rid of parking behind the tower. played ball at the field house or watched dick miller, larry cole, and young stan. got into a lot of games for free just by being there so much.

went anywhere at the colony to eat: brauers, ginos, the beirut, or the diner - loved to get boots or jeans at gihas.

hated the disco kid but there were girls there; hated renees but there were girls there. still miss the old ottawa tavern and the haircuts and the wet shavers (only saw the raison band once before they split town) and mo and the movers.

I grew up in Fremont and came to Toledo for college. I liked it so much, I bought a house and stayed. That was only a handful of years ago.

I know many people criticize Toledo or talk about how we don't have any influx of people, but I'm living proof to the contrary. Maybe I'm crazy, but I really love this city, and I've been to many other cities (both small and large) so I have a basis for comparison.

Enjoyeverysnadwich, Wasn't there another store there called Baker's or something?

^^^^^Good call Jeep - Marathon Lanes. Forgot about Ottawa Lanes too.

@rch101... some things never change. Fun Spot is still up and running. Spent many a Friday and Saturday Night there as a kid in the 60's. I could see the neon letters and "star" from my back yard. And you can still get the pickerel dinner at Bay Shore, I think the same ladies are still waiting tables too, lol. And like Annie said, Woodville Surplus is still the place to shop for stuff like that, it's one of the few things that still brings me across the river. Something about the creaky floors and the smell of musty canvas.

While we're on the East Side, there's also Pete's on Starr for a great greasy spoon hot dog, dad would pick up a sack of them on his way home when he worked on Saturdays, or we'd stop in when we made a trip to Lee Williams Meats (now House of Meats).

Bob and Lou's on Navarre... my first real paying job was there, bagging ice and packing eggs on weekends.

And the family and friend evenings at the Cresceus Tavern, loved to drink orange pop, eat those nasty little Stewart's easy-bake-oven sandwiches, and play shuffleboard bowling.

Offshore:

Yeah, good old George Smith. Rick Lay beat the tar out of George one day on the ball field, and George was a little more subdued around Rick after that. As I remember it, Jeff got fed up with Smith running his mouth and knocked him down. There was more harm done to Smith's ego than anything else. I always felt a little sorry for George Smith. Unlike like most hoodlums, Smith was intelligent and artistically talented. He was a good musician and played in the high school band for a while. His family lived over on Acres road and for one reason or another never had a telephone, which was more than a little odd. Smith failed a grade in HS, and the last time I saw him in school he was higher than ten kites, trying to find his way to his next class, smiling and laughing like an idiot - strung out on one thing or another. I only saw him once more after that, riding in a car driven by Stebbins, someone I'd vote as the prime candidate for prison.

I knew Scott Eberle pretty well; Scott was in a few of my classes. He was a real nice sort and never had a bad thing to say about anyone. I didn't know he flattened Dewey Williamson, but I'm not surprised. Out of the three Williamson boys, Bobby was the only one who would amount to anything. I took drafting class with Bobby and I used to help him with his drafting once in a while. Bobby would never be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he was willing to make up for that with hard work, and he was always quiet and polite.

You might have known Duane Abbot, who grew up to be real successful.

Madjack:
Stebbins=Lawyer, lives in Pburg's Belmont CC
Smith=dead
Bobby =I hear he became career military

The Eberle-Dewey fight took place at a dance on the tennis courts. Dewey was picking on someone, Scott dazed Dewey, the rest of the bunch rat-packed Scott until it was broken up. He laughed it off as they hauled off the bloody wussies.
I can't put a face with Abbott.
Were you on the wrestling team?

This is a great topic! I was born in Quebec City, P.Q, Canada and adopted in 1963. Grew up in Corey Woods, in Sylvania Township. My mom built the house, the third one in the area. My late father was part owner of RCW Peterson and Associates, a tool and die design firm located on Sylvania Ave. My mom, when my brother and I were teens, was the manager of the Greenwood Mall, and I remember going to see Jesus Christ Superstar 11 times! I also remember going to Farrell's Ice Cream at Franklin Park Mall. Sylvania Southview grad and also a UT grad. Currently live in Sylvania and both of my sons are at Northview. I am a freelance reporter and I have started flipping houses also. Flipped and sold two so far and looking for the next project!

^gold - is peterson assoc. still around?

justareviewer- no, the business was sold off I believe in 2001 and I believe a school of some sort purchased the building. Did you work for or know something about RCW?
RCW used to be in a shared building in the west end with RCW on the top floor and Midwest Fluid Power on the gorund floor. I remember going with my dad on Saturdays to his office and walking through Midwest- the smell of the fluids used in making the dies was strong. I have walked into other machine shops since then and the smell always takes me back to those days.

So nice to see all the fond memories and support for Toledo. I grew up off of Heatherdowns near St Patricks Church. Remembering when a paved 2 lane Heatherdowns ended at Michigan and became a gravel road. We used to take a Sunday drive to the country for ice cream. Out in the middle of what was nothing but cornfields stood a Franklin Ice Cream store which later became Dominic's Pizza Restaurant with little mismatched tables and chairs with red/white checkered tableclothes before becoming the great Italian restaurant it was before they closed a few years back. The Jesse James and Maumee drive in theatres were always a treat. I remember my cousins living in Holland, Ohio and it would seem like forever until we got there for a family picnic, just past the old Silver Dollar Cafe. Thanks for jogging my memory back to slower, fun family times.

This is great fun.

I remember four Guys going to Jim White Chevrolet in 1966 and put money down on three end of year '66 Chevy "10" Step Side Pick-Ups and one '67 "10" Pick-Up. They worked on the Concrete Paving Crew for Peirce Construction and were top notch Hands.

Each week (or every other week) they pooled their money and went to Jim White and paid the cash ballance on the next truck until all four had their own individual truck. How cool is that?

Jim White gave them a great deal of about $1200.00 per truck out the door. Nothing fancy. "six banger", three speed on the column, radio and heater.

As they picked up each truck they went to the lumber yard and bought material and built a tool box for the bed.

I'm really happy that there are so many possitive comments and I hope everyone is enjoying this thread as much as I am.

Yesterday I was able to save pictures of my house from the library website. Tkanks a million Tim.

Let's keep it going. The Swinning Pool Dealer I was trying to remember was Mayfair Pool Co.

But now, I can't remember where it was. I think it may have been on Monroe or was it Jackman Road?

There was a pool dealer on Monroe. Did anyone mention Kiddieland on Monroe and Par 3 golf?

Anybody remember Central Skate or the Charcoal House? That restaurant was where my parents taught us to behave like "humans" in a nice restaurant. My brother was taught to pull the chair out for my mom and me- he still does this to this day..... Damn... I am old! LOL

Golddust, yes and yes.

BTW, before Central Skate was ther it was all woods. We would ride horseback and dirt bikes back there.

Offshore- that would have been great fun and a great space to explore. Heck, before Wildwood Metropark is was all Stranahan Estate- just huge! As kids we used to go back in the woods there and explore- THEN... we found out there were houses buried deep in there... One of the Stranahans came out with these huge dogs barking and told us to get away from the property. Scared the living crap out of us and we never went back! LOL

Good one!

There was a bath house and steak place my dad used to go to - Roman was in the name. I thought it was near UT. Does that sound familiar to any older TTers?

My roots: by INeedCoffee

Many a year ago a Scottsman wearing a kilt came upon a beautiful Irish maiden. They drank, they laughed, and not long after they ended up on a boat for the America's.

Fast forward 318 years. No kilt, and whiskey has been replaced by coffee. Still have the reddish beard though in the winter time.

The end.

Affirmative, Molsonator. The Roman Gardens was on Secor about 600 feet north of Dorr. A strip mall was behind it that had Arlan's "discount store", a state liquor store, Joseph's Super Market, Nate Welch Appliance Store. On the n.e. corner of Dorr & Secor was Mel's Big Burger. On the west side of Secor was Myrtle Florist, which ultimately moved to the Reynolds Corners area.

The railroad behind Roman Baths was the boarding spot where the excursion train 'Bluebird Special' first began service. Back then it was powered by a coal-fired, life steam locomotive that went to a ghost town in Sylvania Township name Silica, and then back to Toledo.

A block farther east on Dorr was a bar named Al Shank's Oasis.

Roman Gardens - thanks flinty. Never was old enough to go there. Ha! I remember the Top of The Tower too - downtown. I got to get lobster there once as a kid.

Justareviewer- Thanks for the nostalgia on old bowling alleys. A few more are: Skowronek's and Supreme (in Polish Village), ABC on 16th Street, Bowl-a-Drome on Collingwood near Delaware, Palace Rec. on N. Detroit & Belmont, Van's on N. Detroit & Buckingham, Pal-a-Drome on Junction & Avondale. There was one on Sylvania & Lewis that was between two hot dog joints- Rudy's and Seven Seas. Was there a bowling alley on Stickney?

Wow flinty, what a great memory. I forgot those places and the Bowl-a-Drome was a famous hang-out. Thanks...

Offshore:
Stebbins=Lawyer Okay, one way or another he's involved with the law. :) I wouldn't have believed he'd ever be a lawyer.

Smith=dead No real surprise. How'd he die?

Bobby=I hear he became career military That would be a good move for him. He'd probably do pretty well in the military.

I was never on the wrestling team. I was in the band in HS.

Other places on Monroe Street: I remember KiddieLand. The place was only open once in a great while and had the standard carnival rides, games and junk food. Here's a tip: don't eat the hot dogs.

How about the good old Franklin Park Drive-In Theater, otherwise known as the passion pit?

I am old enough to have patronized the Roman Gardens. The waitresses dressed in togas, the specialty was steak and there was a steam room, sauna, etc. in the back that was for men only. Dad took the family there for dinner once, and my younger brother asked the waitress if it didn't get kind of breezy wearing nothing but that toga. Cute, huh?

@flinty - good calls all, and the one between the hot joints was Park Lanes me thinks

@flinty again - the one on Stickney was Mercury Lanes

madjack - thats funny as hell. Did they have those waist vibrating leather loops that seemed so dumb. I think I watched a James Bond movie where my Dad said they were there.
Wow.

What was the name of the restaurant downtown where they had lobsters in a window about 3'×4'. I think the Fifth Third Field might have covered it over.

Speaking of small airports that closed and became shopping malls, NorthTowne Mall (Telegraph & Alexis)was built on the site of National Airport. Most of us know that the mall is now closed and I don't know if there is a business there or what.

I don't recall seeing the old bowling alley on the second floor at the corner of Jackson and (I think) Superior mentioned. I believe it was Larry Gazzolo's Alleys.

What was the name of the Bowling Alley on Sylvania with the big Oak Trees. Was that Twin Oaks?

And don't forget Timbers, even though it was in Maumee.

As a hint to my age, Sealtest was still using a Horse and Milk Wagon into the '50's on my street. We used to get chunks of ice from the Driver on hot summer days.

@rch101- Yes, Twin Oaks. Wasn't Sealtest milk delivered by Ohio Cloverleaf Dairy? One driver of a horse-drawn wagon that had our neighborhood was Mr. Panek. His kids went to the same grade school I did. Yes, that cold ice chunk was refreshing.

The dairy that delivered our milk was located on Stickney Ave. but at the moment I can't think of the name.

Other local dairies were Page, Village Farm, Babcock. Anybody remember more?

Just thought of the one that was on Stickney Ave.-Cherry Grove Dairy. My gosh! It's 12:21 A.M. Now I can sleep sound. Ha-ha.

Madjack:
Funny about Stebbins:)
Smith’s death-don’t know, I read the obit

Franklin Park Drive in-Learned more about life there than in that one special unit of Mr. Thomas’s science class!:)

old - I think it was called Diers or Deirers?

Degner Dairy also delivered milk house-to-house.

We moved to West Toledo just about the time the Metroparks took control of Wildwood. A neighbor girl and I used to ride our bikes over there to sneak into the mansion and snoop around.

Molsonator, I think now it was Dyer's. I used to look at the lobsters walking on the ice, if I remember correctly, while waiting for the bus home. I wasn't sure I'd want to eat one I thought I got to know.

Dyer's Chop House.

Yep - Thats it Dyer's. Down the street there was a tobacco shop that was also a small deli called Kramer's I think. I always found that an odd combination.

Oh yea - The Wheel was down the street too.

The Wheel, I believe had the great Roast Beef Sandwiches like Red Wells...

Oastas Family owned it. I think they had a fire. Not sure though.

May have been mentioned....White Hut, corner of Sylvania/Secor and there was an A & W just down from there on Sylvania Ave. Kewpee's was good, I forgot all about that one.

Mom and I went to the Kewpees on Laskey and Douglas,on her many shopping trips to "west" Toledo. Like it was a foreign land.Glad I wound up going to Whitmer :-)

Hot Dog John's on Hill. Good Dogs!

Ah, yes, science class. Back at good old SHS I had a funny fellow named Barry for math and another funny boy named Carr for biology. Barry and Carr lived together and both were so light in the loafers it's a wonder they didn't float away when they went outside.

I didn't care for either one - Barry was a jerk, and Carr needed a different hobby - but my lab partner in biology was Richard D. (no last names) and I think he contemplated physical violence from time to time. Everyone called Richard Rich or Rick, but Carr called him Dick. Carr would come over to the desk and put a friendly arm over Rich's shoulders and say, "How's it going, Dick?"

Sexual harassment, I'd say.

Rich hated the attention and would do a very slow burn whenever Carr pulled this crap on Rich. How's it going, Dick?

Department daffodils, is my opinion.

Every hour between classes one of the two would swish down the hall to see the other one on some important business.

Madjack:
Don't remember those two. Man, I had a blast in high school. Even studied sometimes!

My first time on this forum and the first thing I see in the
very first paragraph is my old home place mentioned. I used to live upstairs over Kalmbach's Hardware. I lived there with my Mom and Dad and two younger brothers back in the early 1950s. I also remember many of the places mentioned in the area.
I did not know it at the time, but just around the corner lived a girl I would meet later in life who I fell in love with but things didn't work out. Her name was Jessie Martin and she lived upstairs over the Chinese restaurant on Central. I never knew what ever became of her.
Years later, my Mom and Dad bought that same restaurant and named it Erma's Grill. Lot's of good memories. Life is so full of strange coincidences.

Moved here when I was 12 and lived in Sylvania Township for a year while mom and dad looked for a house to buy. It was a little street off Central, now the heart of the Central Ave. strip. The whole Central/Holland-Sylvania area was pretty much undeveloped at the time.

Moved into the city off Kenwood Blvd. between Toledo Hospital and Old Orchard, across the street from Ottawa Park and went to McKinley School. Netterfields Fish & Chips was on one corner of Central & Upton at the time. High school at DeVilbiss when the land for the expressway was being carved out and we had to walk over a foot bridge near Page Stadium to get there. Toledo Hospital was ONE building. Hung out lots in the Colony area where we had the Colony Restaurant, Brauer's Deli (yum), Lamsons, Colony theater, the bowling alley, Linck's Cafeteria, and that old diehard, excellent hole-in-the wall, Ginos Pizza.

Mike ducks and Ziggys - northender here!

Dyer's Chop House was male only during lunch hour if I remember right.

I grew up in Trilby and my childhood is full of memories. At Secor and Alexis we had Ace and Wing Hardware. Otto's had anything and everything. We had two grocery stores next to each other, Janney's Red and White and Allen's Food Market. We had Bill's Drug Store and Hofstetters Drugs. We had a Post Office and Barber Shop. No one locked their doors or cars. Brondes sold Studebaker and Nash. We had Trilby Park, so safe our parents let us walk there.

I remember Franklin Air Field where the mall is today and Franklin Ice Cream main plant in same area. We had drive in, par 3 golf course, kiddieland, etc. At Northtowne was National Airport and you could get a ride for $5.00. Alexis Road was 2 lane and gravel. We had a volunteer fire department that covered all the way to Jackman and also was the fire service for Ottawa Hills.

Realize putting all this down I am as old as dirt, as the kids say.

@Shortysmom, I remember Ginos very well. I don't ever remember having better pizza as good as Ginos. We went there when ever we could in the 50s. I still compare all pizzas that I eat to Ginos. The aroma coming out of that place was wonderful especially in winter when it was cold outside.

I was reading the posts about LaGrange Street and Central area. I used to work at the Devilbiss Company for 32 years, and at lunch time I would often zip down to the potato chip factory there on LaGrange across from the Ohio Theater. I think it was the Toledo Potato chip factory. Anyways I would buy hot unsalted chips fresh out of the frier and they were hot and they were delicious. By the time I got back to work the paper bag they came in would be soaked through with the grease but man those were some great chips.
I also used to attend La Grange Street school back in the very late 40s and early 50s

My dad grew up on Striecher and Chestnut. Anywhere close to that?

FYI: Kewpee's is still alive and well and operating at three locations in Lima. A fellow down there bought the franchise years ago.

Born 1951 Parkview hospital. We lived on Streicher St. Moved around a lot. W Central ave,Park st.Detroit and Central. Even Maumee briefly. I went to St.Patrick's,Spring,Cherry and Glenwood schools and graduated from Macomber. I lived on Park st. a couple of houses straight down from the chip factory. It was eventually owned by "Charlie's" chips. The smell drove us kids crazy constantly. The building was an old clothing store at one time. There was a bar next door with a small bowling alley on the inside. Like two lanes with hand set pins. That was when there were actually Polish people living in Polish Village and it was a neighborhood not "da hood".

Was a snowboard instructor at various resorts throughout Michigan, New York, Vermont, etc. for several years. Moved to pburg in 2001 (damn women and their settling claws). Went to OCC. Went to Toledo. Moved to Toledo in 2007. Went to Michigan for law school while living in Toledo. Work in Ann Arbor, but still love the dilapidated cities like Toledo and Detroit. See lots of possibility.

So, no real "roots" to speak of, but just hoping to stay (the regional economy does make it hard -- not to mention that Toledo law firms refuse to hire Michigan grads) and make a better city... eventually.

Love these threads. Haven't been back in T-town in a long time, but I lived in two locations in West Toledo as a kid in the late 70s, early 80s. First was on Talmadge Green, right across the street from Franklin Park. Went to Christ the King. From that neighborhood I remember Ozzy's arcade on Monroe in front of the mall, Pewter Pub in Hudson's, Lane's drug store, Shales pharmacy, Sportfame and The Little Caesar's Family Inn in that shopping center on Talmadge and Monroe. Par 3 across the street. The Griddle House in that same intersection. Charcoal House. The Benihana, the Pizza Hut (which I understand still stands to this day, but eternally closed.)

Then we moved to Sutton Place, just off Nantuckett and Monroe. We had Friendly's, Rink's, the Franklin park cinema(saw Poltergeist there) and the Franklin Park drive in, whose screen I could watch from my bedroom window. We had a pool and that pool store that a couple people mentioned earlier was Mayfair, which I think is still there.

Toledo was a great place to grow up. Then in '82 we moved to Dayton, which sucked.

...Toledo law firms refuse to hire Michigan grads

That's insane. Michigan is a top 10 law school. Do they think you guys demand too much money or aren't going to stick around Toledo or what?

People with great educations from great schools with different ideas are what this city needs. Hope you get a chance when someone wises up...

US News & World Report Best Law Schools

OHT must of been Buckeye fans.

OHT

I think there is a belief that Mich grads are only taking the job temporarily? It's fairly easy for Michigan grad (at least law grads) to find a high paying job anywhere in the country. So, when a Mich grad is actually committed to working in the area, I think the question of permanence arises? I'm not sure.

Maybe Ben Konop gave Michigan law a bad name in Toledo.

What is with Toledo tearing down the nice older school buildings? I heard recently that they have torn down Sherman school. That was the first school I ever attended back in 1946. That was a nice old building. What ever they replace it with will not be as wonderfully constructed and probably will cost fifty times more.

Efficiency is key, Wyatt.

I agree, the structures of old are amazing, but they are also very inefficient. Even Michigan Law School is constructing a new building and reconstructing the Lawyer's Club (aka the law school dorms). The law school has been around for 150 years and the Lawyer's Club has been around for almost as long. They're amazing buildings with ornate details, but attend or stay at either of these structures and you'll witness the inability of the buildings to insulate from cold and cool when the weather warms. Both structures are unbearable during extreme temperatures.

I don't see where the savings would cover demolition and replacement at today's prices. The structures are always cheesy gaudy and very expensive to build. Someone is getting rich from it, and I think that is the motivating force behind it.

As a young girl, I lived on Gladstone Street, near Manhattan/Cherry St. for a few years, then moved to Streicher Street - right near the corner of Streicher and Cottage - where our family lived from 1958 until just a few years ago...the Yeager Family. Can't say enough good things about my childhood - I loved the hot-fudge "dopes" (sundaes without the nuts), at Franklin's Ice Cream at Swayne Field shopping center..my parents used to talk in pig-latin often when my brother and I were in the back seat while we drove around town...We grocery shopped as a family, often, at the Big-Bear store, and the A&P store...saved up our "stamps" from shopping so we could buy other stuff...I used to roller skate at the Rollercade on Berdan, next to one of the milk dairies (Babcock?)...one of my Grandpas worked for Doehler Jarvis - he lived on West Grove Place, where one of the expressways is now...my other grandparents lived on Smead Avenue. I went to St. Agnes school for the first grade, and then Chery School until the eight grade..and then on to Central Catholic..I used to take the bus to downtown ALL the time...took piano lessons at the "The Music Shop" on St. Clair St....used to be at the West Toledo "Y" dances a lot...I worked at Cherry Hill Nursing Home for a year, the Top of The Tower, The 19th floor lounge at the Holiday Inn downtown...then Zorba's/Tudor Inn...and also the Longhorn Saloon...My ex started the bar, Jitela's, and also Nick & Jimmy's...I'm in California now, but my "roots", are in good old Toledo!!

I am a New Yorker, but I grew up in the Detroit and Central Avenue area. So many of the places and businesses that I use to deliver newspapers to are now gone. rch101 posting brought back so many memories for me from reading it. I wonder if I know you from the good old days. I went to Glenwood Elementary School, how about you?

Growing up in Toledo in the 60's was the best experience a person could have!

Yes Marv. I went to Glenwood. I went through the eighth grade in old building but they held graduation ceremony in the new building. I didn't like that much or the new building for that manner. I would guess our paths crossed somewhere...

I'm pleased to see and remember how well this post went with so many participating... It was a great trip down memory lane.

What was that Italian restaurant on Reynolds, across from Southwyck?

Breaker: is freaking me out with Talmadge Green in the late 70s. Did we swim in the Schmit's pool together or ride dirt bikes in the field behind the Fell's house?

Gamegrrl: Dominics

I was born in an apartment above a drug store at Douglas & Laskey Roads. That area is known as Wernert's Corners. From there we moved to Trilby, Secor-Alexis area. That area to me is heaven.

We had Otto's, the ice rink was next to our church on Secor Rd, we had 3 drug stores, a dinner called Tubby's on Alexis and Secor. We had 2 grocery stores, Allen's and Janney's Red & White in same building next to each other at Alexis and Gay streets. Dr. Crocket delivered my first child. We had a volunteer fire department and most businesses closed if there was a fire during business hours as they were all on the fire department. Trilby Log Cabin next to Brondes was the in place to go.

We had two dairies, Smith's on Secor and Morrell's on Alexis where a ceramic shop is today. We also had a bakery. My whole extended family went to Trilby Grade School and Whitmer High including my mother and her siblings.

I remember the main Franklin plant on Monroe Street where the mall is today. At the very corner of Talmadge and Monroe was the Franklin Park Airport. Close by were the Franklin Park and Starlight drive ins. The Par 3 golf course was on Talmadge and Laskey Roads way down past Andersons. Also where North Towne Mall is located was an airport where plane rides were $5. I'm not sure of its name any more.

We lived so far out in the country we had to take the Holland Sylvania Bus if we wanted to go any where. All the major roads in those days were 2 lane gravel with big ditches on either side. I was familiar with those ditches when I learned to drive.

Life was hard for our parents then but as a child I loved every minute of growing up in a small community. The gossip line among parents kept everyone on the straight and narrow.

I have not strayed far from Trilby in my adult life and have always lived in the WLSD. The city came out and stole us in the 60's and 70's.

I spent my childhood in Oregon (OH), then lived all over the place while I was in the military for three years. Came back to Toledo in 1977, spent 25 years or so just across the border in Michigan, and I've lived in the OWE since summer 2000.

Growing up in Oregon in the 1960s and 70s, we were pretty isolated. The one rule I was given when I got my driver's license was "no driving across the river". Any trip the family had to make "way out Monroe St." (meaning anything past 14th St.) was a Major Event. I remember seeing the little amusement park on Monroe when I was pretty young, but my dad was always on a mission on these trips, so we never stopped.

I can remember a restaurant across from where the mall is now, on Monroe, that had a big drink called Grog. If you got it, you got a badge that said "I got GROGGED at ________" with the name of the restaurant. I cannot for the life of me remember the name of that place. I got very sick one night from the deep fried mushrooms there. LOL!

Garbage Pizza at Shakey's, which was great except for the shrimp. I picked them off. Loved the Steak & Ale, too!

Most of my childhood memories are more East Toledo-ish, and primarily in the Great Eastern corridor. My parents were really strict, so I didn't get around all that much. WOHO Radio, The Mojo Man, and a contest to grow some Big Kahuna Corn are good memories.

Dr. Rosen at Great Eastern for my glasses, Darryl Jervis Studio for baton (Chris Jervis was my instructor) -- We were The Seaway Sprites. I was always the littlest kid, so I never got to twirl fire batons. Still pissed about that.

The lunch counter at Grant's had great BLTs and chocolate sodas. I ended up working at Hobby Center, Baskin Robbins, Pant Scene and Roy Rogers. Most of those jobs at the same time. I was apparently a bona fide capitalist, even when I was a kid. LOL! Got my first job when I was about 13, by asking a million times a week: Cleaning the foyers of the apartment buildings near Coy/Navarre for $2/hr.

Ok. Enough. This is making me feel even more ancient than I really am. LOL!

Thank you for the "Dominics" response, justread. Prairieson will be glad to hear the answer too!

No roots here, but I am planning to plant and start roots :) just need to convince my girl to have kids.

Know her family has been her a long time "Vincents" around the Millbury area.

Jackie-
That airport was the old National field. I took my first flying lessons there. An old taildragger bright yellow Aeronca. It was $7.00 an hour including the instructor fee. I took my sailplane written exam there too. Wow that was a long time ago.

Anybody remember the sea plane rides out of cullen park?

Somebody said Miracle Mile. Remember the huge christmas decorations at Miracle Mile in the late 60s?
How about the drive in theater near Jackman?
You could take $1.00 to Kewpee and get a hamburger, fries and a shake.
How about "Mike's" on Douglas where the asian food place eventually went.
How about the Foodtown with the Horse ride between Laskey and Tremainsville with a Sherwin Williams store and the Pharmacy next to it?
Anybody lose any trees in the Palm Sunday tornado?
Did your Dad ever buy a Chevy from Weisenbergers?
Dinner at the Branding Iron?
Hinkles bear claws.
Douglas road floods.
The Gracewood Grill.
Fuller brush man.
Ice cream tricycles with bells.

My Dad worked on the earth moving/grading for the Miricle Mile Shopping Center and many other places around there. I have a picture of him with the big screen in the background. There was a restaurant on Monroe Street at Secor just east of Bundee Brothers called O'Bryans. Great oven cooked spear ribs. And hashbrowns. Remember Jug's Tavern before the Bowling Ally was built? My first McDonald's visit was at Miricle Mile.

Keep up the memories.

The big thing for us country kids to do was to go to Walbridge Park. They had all kinds of rides and it was in a different world from where we lived. I also remember going to Kin Wa Loh's after prom in High School. It was a supper club and they treated us like royalty.

Douglas Road still floods. The pharmacy by Wally's Foodtown was Ace Drugs. The Miracle Mile Drive In was on Jackman Road near Laskey. I still miss Hinkle donuts and have a dust mop bought in 1955 from a Fuller brush man.

Before Wally Iott opened his Foodtown we did not have any super markets. Just small stores where you brought a list and they helped you with groceries. It was so foreign to see meat packaged for sale. And they had carts to put your groceries in. Big city living out in the burbs at that time.

Gee - I'm am truly an old timer.

Just like most of us on this thread that remember those days jackie... Thanks a million for sharing.

Regarding the east side; One of the greatest jobs I ever had that paid about $50 a week more than unemployment for me was American Ship Building. One of the most enjoyable times I ever had. Great people to work with and great times at the Ship n Shore across the street. I really miss those days. That was over 35 years ago. Let's keep this thread going everyone. There must be places and times in Toledo you'd like to share with us.

Rch,

My grandpa's brother-in-law so my grand uncle by marriage Owned Jug's Tavern and the Bowling Alley. His name was Raymond Jakubowski.

He also owned a meat-rendering plant here in Toledo. My grandpa dropped out of HS to work there for him with his (my grandpa) brothers. This was during the depression.

I believe once Raymond Sr. Passed Raymond Jr took over the bowling alley. I think it's still in the family.

Laskey Rd McDonald's was so old, that when drive thru windows came around in the late 70s they had a big conveyor system that carried the food over the dining room to the window.

ifrost, you're right and us kids called him "Jugs". He was a great Guy and always treated us kids to chips and such when we were there on a Sunday with our folks. And I do remember he passed and his son had the Bowling Ally.

Uncle Sams across from Miracle Mile, I think hamburgers were 15 cents. Roy Rodgers Roast Beef on Woodville. Links at the Colony, Bud and Lukes downtown. Making the big trip to the first enclosed shopping Mall, Woodville Mall. Tiedtke's at Greenwood Mall and downtown. Lou's Restaurant on Telegraph north of Alexis. The Restaurant that was at the location of Frisch's Big Boy at Lewis and Alexis, anyone remember the name? Rinks Bargain City, The Great Atlantic and Pacific Tea Company,AKA, AP. The breakfast restaurant in the dome of the courthouse downtown, yes there was one and the elevator operator at the Lucas County Courthouse also.

Uncle Sams was the creation from the owners of White Hut... Home of the Super King. Uncle Sams had the Big Uncle. This was White Huts attempt to transition to the McD's type of place... Great job Nyse... Great memories. And now I'm getting hungry.

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