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Andrew Z part 2

Well it seems the only lawsuit so far is with the family.

http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=13435434

created by Molsonator on Nov 03, 2010 at 09:06:39 am     Business     Comments: 111

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just read that myself. Sounds interesting

posted by steve155 on Nov 03, 2010 at 11:34:51 am     #   1 person liked this

Very interesting to say the least.

posted by Hoops on Nov 03, 2010 at 11:37:53 am     #   1 person liked this

Andrew Z is losing respect day by day.

posted by hockeyfan on Nov 03, 2010 at 12:53:23 pm     #   1 person liked this

http://toledoblade.com/article/20101103/NEWS02/101109835

So, did Andrew Z have his uncle and friend do his own dirty work? What a weird story.

posted by toledolen_ on Nov 03, 2010 at 02:23:02 pm     #  

From what he had said before it sounded like levis locked him out with all of his supplies in there and would not give them to him.

posted by Ryan on Nov 03, 2010 at 03:52:57 pm     #  

I believe they have the right to do that.

posted by Molsonator on Nov 03, 2010 at 04:06:27 pm     #   1 person liked this

Some interesting comments on The Blade article

posted by wahhutch9 on Nov 03, 2010 at 04:21:53 pm     #  

Is he still trying to keep it going above the Taco Bell downtown?

posted by Molsonator on Nov 03, 2010 at 05:06:00 pm     #  

Good work by the Perrysburg police. I wonder if these guys are suspects in other restaurant break-ins.

These characters look pretty shady.

posted by CharlesBronson on Nov 03, 2010 at 05:29:02 pm     #   1 person liked this

Seriously? Keep your day job. LMAO!

posted by Ryan on Nov 03, 2010 at 06:29:32 pm     #  

Who should keep their day job? Andrew Z?

posted by toledolen_ on Nov 03, 2010 at 07:04:56 pm     #  

CharlesBronson.

posted by Ryan on Nov 03, 2010 at 07:20:51 pm     #  

I presume CharlesBronson was just being sarcastic?

posted by mom2 on Nov 03, 2010 at 07:47:35 pm     #   1 person liked this

I presume CharlesBronson was just being sarcastic?

posted by mom2 on Nov 03, 2010 at 07:47:39 pm     #  

Well, the easy conclusion to which to jump is that they "broke in" to get AZ's stuff back. Which, if true, was pretty stupid.

But, the truth will eventually come out....

posted by texlovera on Nov 04, 2010 at 09:49:02 am     #   1 person liked this

I imagine Levis Commons is pretty ticked at AZ.

posted by Molsonator on Nov 04, 2010 at 11:37:28 am     #  

Hypothetical: If the "safe" was entered and the contents taken, its possible that only a select few would know the contents. If the select few say that the safe was empty then there's only breaking and entering, but not theft?

However those men didn't break in just for the fun of it. They were certainly after something, but the police may never actually determine what, if anything was taken.

posted by holland on Nov 04, 2010 at 12:56:59 pm     #  

The Blade article stated that the "missing" money was used to pay old bills and the original money theft investigation has not continued. So perhaps the blaming of the manager was perhaps stretched

posted by Hoops on Nov 04, 2010 at 01:05:49 pm     #  

I can't take this as looking bad on AZ. I think it's foul to automatically connect AZ to actions his uncle may have taken. Some of my family members have done some ridiculous things, but I would hope people wouldn't automatically apply their actions to myself.

posted by JJFad on Nov 04, 2010 at 01:45:48 pm     #  

JJFad - You have to believe AZ knew.

posted by Molsonator on Nov 04, 2010 at 02:44:30 pm     #  

I don't know, and I don't know AZ well enough to make decisions like that. Maybe there is more info out there that I haven't read, but I can't condemn the guy based on the articles above.

There could be several explanations : AZ put him up to it; AZ told him about the money remaining in the safe and uncle wanted to get it for himself; AZ told him about money in safe and uncle wanted to take it to help get AZ out of some debt... too many possibilities...

posted by JJFad on Nov 04, 2010 at 05:05:47 pm     #  

Is the locking of the facilities by the landlord a form of lien? In other words, at the time of the lockout, is the landlord the legal claimant to the property items therein, including any safes and their contents?

posted by GuestZero on Nov 04, 2010 at 05:14:45 pm     #  

JJFad - The uncle new the combination? Hmmm. Oh by the way no investigation on the managers stealing $50,000. Hmmm. I am just trying to use logic.

posted by Molsonator on Nov 04, 2010 at 05:46:58 pm     #  

This story is getting worse as it goes on. Bizarre at best. When is AZ going to post a response now?

posted by hockeyfan on Nov 04, 2010 at 07:18:32 pm     #  

GZ,
the locking of the site is a lien. The lienholder, in this case the owners of the property, can lock down the site and auction whatever remains on premises to recoup their losses. AZ should have declared Chapter 11 to allow use of the items and disallow the property owners from having a lien placed on the items within the restaurant... it's all 20/20 at this point.

As far as the lock combination -- i don't know what kind of safe it was, whether the uncle had previous knowledge of the combination, whether the uncle was told by another source of the combination, whether the uncle was in the room while AZ, or others, opened the safe...

A lot of speculation. I agree that it seems odd, but reading through any Torts casebook would uncover cases that make this look relatively mundane.

posted by JJFad on Nov 05, 2010 at 02:21:05 pm     #  

I thought I read there were more charges pending.

posted by Molsonator on Nov 05, 2010 at 03:55:12 pm     #  

OK, thank you, JJ. I just find it amazing that the lienholder can actually seize or auction something like a safe, which might contain in excess of what's actually owed. Or personal documents.

posted by GuestZero on Nov 05, 2010 at 06:38:59 pm     #  

The lienholder can only auction up to the amount owed. Anything above the debt goes back to the debtor. However, there are probably multiple creditors in line for money by this time, so it's not likely that much will be left over.

posted by JJFad on Nov 05, 2010 at 08:12:13 pm     #  

There is also the tricky part of secured vs. unsecured creditors, but I'll spare you the boredom :)

posted by JJFad on Nov 05, 2010 at 08:13:19 pm     #  

I don't believe that there is a required minimum on the bidding value of the contents at auction. That could leave the cash in the hands of the leinholder to satisfy the debt if the proceeds of the physical inventory don't cover the balance.

posted by holland on Nov 05, 2010 at 08:18:06 pm     #  

The sheriff can generally set minimum -- usually they don't.

posted by JJFad on Nov 05, 2010 at 08:22:14 pm     #  

Didn't seem like his biz was incorporated.

posted by Molsonator on Nov 05, 2010 at 08:33:41 pm     #  

There is a Press Conference today by AZ. He wants to put to rest the police investigation into the robbery. It seems the police are working to connect AZ to the robbery by his uncle. He wants to put the "rumors" to rest.

posted by jdmsbyrd on Nov 17, 2010 at 09:08:17 am     #  

hahahahahahahaha

He should step up to the plate and admit he is not as popular and well-known as he had thought. He over-extended himself to the point of business failure.

posted by NoSheetSherlock on Nov 17, 2010 at 09:37:51 am     #  

There is no business IQ test to be a DJ in a mid-market radio town. The dinosaur is being taken over by Sateliite Radio.

posted by Hoops on Nov 17, 2010 at 10:39:39 am     #  

Per his news conference this morning, he may be indicted for a felony by next Wednesday, but also claims he is being unfairly targeted by police. Let me wipe the tear off my cheek.

posted by Hoops on Nov 17, 2010 at 12:10:37 pm     #  

wow.

posted by toledolen_ on Nov 17, 2010 at 12:20:09 pm     #  

Hoops - where was this self-serving press conference held ?
Can you give us the low down ???

I have met this Fat Fatczar and have found him to be extremely arrogant, condescending and full of himself. He does not impress me in a positive manner in the least.

Understanding media as he should, he obviously wanted to break the news, on his terms, and spun as favorably for him as possible before the Wood County Grand Jury speaks. And speak they will !

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (Fat Andrew)

posted by NoSheetSherlock on Nov 17, 2010 at 12:26:56 pm     #   1 person liked this

If he is indeed arrested, and then allowed out on bail, he should be required to surrender his passport.

posted by CharlesBronson on Nov 17, 2010 at 12:29:56 pm     #  

I saw this information on the WTOL website

posted by Hoops on Nov 17, 2010 at 12:32:28 pm     #  

Actually, CB, I think that a person as large and opinionated as Zepeda is would have a very hard time hiding ANYWHERE in the world.

But surrendering the passport is a very good idea.

Remember how he looked down his arrogant nose at people charged criminally on Ch 36 Rant and Rave ???

Now HE appears to be one of them !

Andrew Z - criminal.
BWA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA !!!!!!

I will come visit you at CRC (Corrections Reception Center) in Orient Ohio when you get there, Andrew.

Plus, I will bring PIZZA !!!!!!!
(If you can persuade the guards to let it in)

posted by NoSheetSherlock on Nov 17, 2010 at 12:40:11 pm     #  

Thank you, Hoops !

posted by NoSheetSherlock on Nov 17, 2010 at 12:49:53 pm     #  

BWA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA !!!!!!

Damn dude--it's like this guy took a dump in the middle of your bed or something.

Why so hostile--was he really that much of a jackass in person (I never met the guy, nor have any inkling of listening to his show because it's standard Clear Channel crap)?

posted by oldhometown on Nov 17, 2010 at 01:09:10 pm     #  

hometownbuffet - yes he was, and IS !

the idea of this fake fat*ss being named Lucas County FatCzar really rankled me because I see AZ for who he really is. (and isn't).

the chickens are coming home to roost on Andrew. (cluck, cluck, cluck)

posted by NoSheetSherlock on Nov 17, 2010 at 01:29:56 pm     #   1 person liked this

Sounds like someone got fired by someone at some pizza place somewhere.

posted by Ryan on Nov 17, 2010 at 01:32:12 pm     #   1 person liked this

not at all, Ryan.

It is interesting to me when these people that think they are bigger than life on the radio, and above the law, get their ass handed to them by someone somewhere. In this case it will be a Grand Jury doing the handing (up of an Indictment).

Troy Neff is another example of abundant headswelling, and the latest pictures of Brian Wilson (on WSPD website) with his noggin' split open only add to what I am saying.

Hometown - what makes you think I am a "dude" ?
Cain't women get sick and tired of all the phonies in Toledo as well as "dudes" ???

posted by NoSheetSherlock on Nov 17, 2010 at 02:18:06 pm     #  

NSS - What does Brian Wilson's stiched eye have to do with it? Also, I like how Andrew Z is argiung with the Perrysburg Police. First a Managers fault - now the police.

posted by Molsonator on Nov 17, 2010 at 02:24:46 pm     #  

Cain't women get sick and tired of all the phonies in Toledo as well as "dudes" ???

Sho' nuff. Just using the term as a general address, not gender-specific.

posted by oldhometown on Nov 17, 2010 at 02:25:16 pm     #  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iISyPz5XRyI

posted by CharlesBronson on Nov 17, 2010 at 02:37:35 pm     #  

Molsonator - it appears that the stutterin', Mr. Magoo carpetbagger got his arse handed to him by a listener that had had enough of his malarky.

That the rumor in the Swamp, anyway.

posted by NoSheetSherlock on Nov 17, 2010 at 02:52:19 pm     #  

Here's the story with accompanying video:

http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=13516852

posted by toledolen_ on Nov 17, 2010 at 02:53:33 pm     #  

This guy's ratings for this month are going to go through the f-n' roof...

This has focused attention on the station and the personality better than $100,000 worth of publicity.

posted by oldhometown on Nov 17, 2010 at 03:02:03 pm     #  

Well, he's off the air for the next few days, or indefinitely... so who knows.

posted by toledolen_ on Nov 17, 2010 at 03:05:02 pm     #  

I don't think he lives in the area. Virginia I think? So i doubt he got hit by a listener. Also, why would he post anything - if no one sees him while he does his show, he doesn't need to cover it up. I was going to joke and say Wolfman brought it up - but when I went over to the Swamp it WAS Wolfman. Ha!

posted by Molsonator on Nov 17, 2010 at 03:05:16 pm     #  

Oldhometown - How do you know is ratings are going through the roof?

posted by Molsonator on Nov 17, 2010 at 03:06:42 pm     #  

I feel sorry for him and the situation and hopefully this can all get worked out.

Every AZ post I see I always have one phrase that someone said on TT that pops in mind "in a time when everyone is leaving, or outsourcing, at least AZ s trying to keep things local".

I'm not his friend or know him, but I have meet him twice, despite some on the air things, as a person I do feel he is nice and has good intentions. Just my $0.02.

posted by INeedCoffee on Nov 17, 2010 at 03:07:57 pm     #   1 person liked this

Do you think AZ got a lawyer before he tried a preemptive PR move?

posted by Molsonator on Nov 17, 2010 at 03:28:10 pm     #  

Oldhometown - How do you know is ratings are going through the roof?

It's a well-placed hunch based upon...

1.) Experience: I worked at radio stations for nearly 2 decades, both in programming and management. I've been a "morning guy" (in markets larger than Toledo)--and I know AZ is playing the media like a friggin' fiddle.

That WTOL news story was 3 minutes of Andrew Z/92.5 Kiss FM/Clear Channel Radio promotion. And if this guy is still on the air tomorrow, more people will be listening to see what else (if anything) he is going to say.

Was there any need to hold a "press conference"? No. The guy has a radio show, and I'm pretty sure he could have used that vehicle to say something to the other media. It's a trumped-up circus. Also, if his lawyer thought anything was coming down, the last thing he would advise a client to do is hold a presser, grant interviews to the media (which can be edited all sorts of ways), etc.

2.) Arbitron ratings methodology: Toledo does not have electronic measurement of radio listening--it is still being measured by the "diary" method, where listeners supposedly write down what they listened to on any given day for a week. Do they write down what they listen to every day? No--they write it down at the end of the week just before they mail the damn thing back. Or they just lie.

So, people write down what they think they listened to, or what station is doing lots of advertising on TV, or they write down the name of a personality they know or have heard of (the station will still get the credit). With all the face time AZ has been getting and his name being thrown about in the paper and everywhere else, he's getting a major "branding" boost.

posted by oldhometown on Nov 17, 2010 at 03:33:50 pm     #  

With all the face time AZ has been getting and his name being thrown about in the paper and everywhere else, he's getting a major "branding" boost.

I meant to add "for free" to the end of that sentence.

posted by oldhometown on Nov 17, 2010 at 03:35:34 pm     #  

Hometown - do you remember when Troy Neff had that altercation with the visitor from Tennessee ?
Clear Channel took him off the air "for a few days" and he never came back.

Criminal activity is never good advertisement for a radio or TV station.

BTW - if AZ gave the combo to the safe to his uncle, that is very parallel to a getaway driver being charged in a bank robbery - just as GUILTY !

posted by NoSheetSherlock on Nov 17, 2010 at 03:39:47 pm     #   1 person liked this

"Good" is a value judgment on the advertisement--and an unreliable construct. For example, Howard Stern, in many people's eyes (ears?) is not "good" for a radio station...yet he would still get lots o' listeners. Why? He wasn't "good" for the station with his antics...or was he? The ol' adage about "any publicity is good publicity" will apply in this case.

Troy Neff never had anywhere near the profile AZ does at the current time in this market. Ever.

posted by oldhometown on Nov 17, 2010 at 03:51:29 pm     #  

He's been indicted for three felonies: Theft, Failure to Pay Sales Taxes, and Breaking and Entering:

https://pub.clerkofcourt.co.wood.oh.us/pa/

posted by JohnnyMac on Nov 17, 2010 at 03:58:17 pm     #   2 people liked this

Yikes!

We'll see if Clear Channel let's him keep rolling with the radio show.

posted by oldhometown on Nov 17, 2010 at 04:03:18 pm     #  

Video - WTOL 11 NEWS

http://www.wtol.com/global/Category.asp?C=195970&clipId=5302433&topVideoCatNo=14996&autoStart=true

posted by CharlesBronson on Nov 17, 2010 at 04:35:01 pm     #   1 person liked this

Oldhometown - sorry I got crossed up in Brian Wilson vs. Andrew Z when I said his ratings are through the roof. I agree Andrew Z's ratings are probably very good - not seeing the trends reports and knowing Cumulus dropped out of Arbitron, I have no proof, but your logic makes sense to me. As for AZ - my understanding is he is off the sir for the next few days.

posted by Molsonator on Nov 17, 2010 at 04:53:19 pm     #  

Hometownbuffet-Andrew Zepeda = Howard Stern ?????

It is one thing to be a 'badboy', ala Stern....
and quite another to be a criminal 'badboy', ala Zepeda.

BTW - using your logic, since he was indicted for three felonies instead of one, his ratings should go thru the SKY, instead of merely "going thru the roof".
Would you agree ???? I'm just sayin'......duh.

posted by NoSheetSherlock on Nov 17, 2010 at 04:57:15 pm     #  

NSS - My guess is Andy Stuart won't let him back on the air until this is cleaned up. Hometown - I meant when I questioned your ratings - I have 3 things going at once so don't hold it agianst me. I understand now u meant Az's rating and not Brian Wilson's although I imagine BW's are fairly good, demo wise.

posted by Molsonator on Nov 17, 2010 at 05:04:21 pm     #  

Your missing the overall point NSS--publicity is publicity is publicity. 92.5 Kiss FM will now be in the spotlight tonight and for the next couple of days...at the top of the newscasts on the 5, 6, 11 o'clock news tonight and the news rotation tomorrow morning on every station. It has an effect.

When Bubba the Love Sponge (yes, he goes by that on the air) slaughtered a pig live on the air in Tampa and got hit with criminal charges (animal cruelty--dropped a few months later), his station benefited hugely from the resulting coverage. It's just how it goes.

If what Molsonator is saying is true (that he's off the air for the next few days), that will have some mitigating effect (since he will not be there to address his problems), but the overall effect is still focusing attention on ONE media property for the next few days. I know you are too smart to fall for it, but you would be surprised how many people tune in just for the "what's going on here" reason. And really, actual listening is only half the battle because...

...the methodology used to calculate ratings is shoddy--it isn't whether people actually listen to the station--it is whether they write down in that diary that they may have listened to something, somewhere, sometime (yes, I'm afraid it is that unscientific). "Oh yeah...Andrew Z...yeah I've heard him in the last few days"...and the station will get credit.

His felony indictment count has nothing to do with how many multiples his ratings go up...duh.

posted by oldhometown on Nov 17, 2010 at 05:13:17 pm     #  

But how far they can crash (92.5 never heard of them) is a concern as well. We will soon see.

posted by Molsonator on Nov 17, 2010 at 05:17:52 pm     #  

Molson - Wood County is a harsher county than Lucas.
Something about Republican counties taking crime and punishment more seriously than overburdened criminal justice systems do in Democratic counties like Lucas.

Indicted for three felonies, my projection is that he will plead to one and do time....No Community Control
in this flea bargain. He clearly does not accept responsibility for his actions.

Long story short - Zepeda will have an extremely difficult time broadcasting his brand of B.S. from a cell in Orient, Ohio.

Clear Channel has seen the last of Pizzaman Andrew, unless he becomes a delivery boy for Marco's when he gets out.
Even THAT job is a stretch with an "F" branded on you when released from prison.

Yes, folks....AZ is goin' down.

posted by NoSheetSherlock on Nov 17, 2010 at 05:20:41 pm     #   1 person liked this

Agreed.

posted by Molsonator on Nov 17, 2010 at 05:23:07 pm     #  

Lots of weirdness here in the latest round of Z-gate:

1. Andrew Z will have a much tougher time dealing with the charge of evading sales tax remittance than he will of the "framed" charge of B&E. The sales tax problem dates all the way back to March, according to the Blade, meaning Andrew Z had money troubles long before the supposed embezzlement of $50K in July. Sales tax cases are fairly easy for investigators to prove, since most businesses keep detailed records. Even if a business owner destroyed sales records, it doesn't take a forensic accountant much time to reconstruct approximate sales based on bank records or employee withholding.

2. I suspect Andrew Z will be off a lot longer than the "couple of days" he claimed at his news conference. He faces numerous felony counts, and Clear Channel will likely wait until the court cases are resolved before reinstating him, especially if they yanked him at the indictment stage.

3. Andrew Z's defense seems to be centered on the notion that Perrysburg police are "on a witch hunt to smear my name," which is not going to play very well with prosecutors, juries, or the general public. MY BS detector is buzzing right now, as I have heard more than a few crooks in my life resort to the tired old "they are all out to get me" routine. Then again, maybe I am a jaded curmudgeon.

posted by historymike on Nov 17, 2010 at 05:30:13 pm     #   1 person liked this

NSS - So what do you do for a living? I think you owe us some stats about yourself since you're so quick to pass judgement and call people names. So we'll take a picture too since you have the immaturity to call someone 'fat' over and over.

posted by steve155 on Nov 17, 2010 at 05:55:08 pm     #   1 person liked this

Rather than holding a press conference, AZ should have been hunkered down with serious legal counsel plotting a better defense. Hard to imagine a foray into the food business going any worse than this example.

posted by bam2 on Nov 17, 2010 at 05:59:53 pm     #  

36-24-36.
blond/blue
115 lbs.

what else,stalker ?

posted by NoSheetSherlock on Nov 17, 2010 at 06:00:54 pm     #   1 person liked this

Whether or not Andrew is guilty is something of concern. However, NoSheetSherlock's comments are more concerning because I hate to see ToledoTalk devolve into a hate-mongering tabloid as NSS and another person have done lately.

If you have significant disclaimers to air about a person, then do so... BUT DO SO WITHOUT USING INSULTS. AZ might not be Mother Theresa, but he doesn't deserve to be called "fat" nor other insults.

Leave that crap to yourself.

posted by JJFad on Nov 17, 2010 at 06:25:54 pm     #   1 person liked this

Andrew Z MIGHT end up pleading to or being found guilty of a felony, but jailtime is extraordinarily unlikely. In most cases, I would say that even a felony conviction was unlikely, but his public statements are not going to make Mr. Dobson very happy. His best bet would be to shut up because most people in a similar situation would be promising to make restitution hoping for either a misdemeanor plea or diversion.

posted by MoreThanRhetoric on Nov 17, 2010 at 06:39:36 pm     #   1 person liked this

Andrew Z is fat.

posted by hockeyfan on Nov 17, 2010 at 06:53:37 pm     #   1 person liked this

From what I read, Andrew Zepeda was indicted for complicity B&E, theft and failure to pay sales tax. If somebody pays the government, the tax problem will go away (like any good leg breaker, the government wants their money). The rest is going to be hard to prove, as we are talking complicity and not straight forward B&E. That leaves the theft charge which might go away if the complicity charge fails.

All in all, Andrew Z's problems can be solved by throwing money on the fire. Question is, does he or someone willing to front him have enough money to put out the fire?

posted by madjack on Nov 17, 2010 at 07:05:13 pm     #  

Agreed with MoreThanRhetoric that AZ would be well advised to close his yap, though since he is someone who talks for a living, this would be like trying to convince an anteater to stay away from a Formicidae nest. Agreed also that the state is usually much more concerned about restitution than jail time with tax delinquents.

Also, as someone who has gotten behind on taxes in my previous life, you have to be willfully ignorant not to see the handwriting on the wall when it comes to government taxing agencies. They are pretty quick to respond to the cessation of filing tax forms and remitting payments, and as weeks and months go by the agencies get more and more threatening. When they move from "taxes and penalties" to threats of jail time, anyone with an ounce of common sense makes arrangements to avoid the case getting referred to the criminal judicial system. Being late on remittances is one thing, but to go many months without even filing is a big no-no: there are significant legal differences between tax delinquency (behind on taxes but filing: civil but not criminal), tax avoidance (using legal and quasi-legal means to reduce tax obligations: civil but not criminal) and tax evasion (deliberate and willful intent to reduce or completely skip remittance of taxes: criminal and often categorized as felonious).

My guess if that AZ's business did not file the monthly sales tax returns if the state is going the route of tax evasion. You can stay out of criminal trouble by simply filing the forms and sending in a few bucks, because you are demonstrating a good faith effort to be compliant. Skipping the required forms (in addition to a failure to pay) creates the appearance that you are trying to defraud the state.

posted by historymike on Nov 17, 2010 at 07:09:34 pm     #  

Sorry to offend anyone by labeling AZ as fat, but he really is. Is the truth so hard to bear ?

Or do you want to believe that our Esteemed Lucas County Weight Loss Czar, or whatever title that was bestowed upon him, is not excessively and dangerously heavy (body loaded with FAT)?
yes, FAT.
Not water, not muscle, but FAT.

He is a poor example for that title and job, and probably has even gained a few pounds since BabyBen bestowed that title on him.

I met him a few times after he had that title given to him, and he was so full of himself as he told me how in demand he is - 2 radio shows, a TV spot on Ch 36, restaurants, etc.

So yes, I see him for the scammer that he is to Lucas County citizens, and still say he is fat.
Does someone think he is skinny ? Or in good shape ?

posted by NoSheetSherlock on Nov 17, 2010 at 07:11:30 pm     #   1 person liked this

MJ: As a rule of thumb, complicity is easier to prove than the underlying charge, that is why they charge it that way.

posted by MoreThanRhetoric on Nov 17, 2010 at 07:30:19 pm     #  

NSS, it's not the fact that of referring to AZ as fat. The point, since you obviously can't read between the lines, is that you are here to personally attack AZ. Your issues with AZ apparently run much deeper than anything in the news. If you want to use this forum to air your personal dispute under the guise of disgust, then go ahead.

posted by JJFad on Nov 17, 2010 at 07:37:31 pm     #   1 person liked this

From NoSheetSherlock: Sorry to offend anyone by labeling AZ as fat, but he really is.

I don't believe it. For one thing, you don't sound all that sorry to me, and I am an extremely astute listener. I think you're apologizing as a sort of social amenity. For another, as you point out and as anyone can see, Andrew Z is fat. The man is a porker, a butterball, a waddling advertisement for salads and regular workouts.

From NoSheetSherlock: 36-24-36.
blond/blue
115 lbs.

what else,stalker?

Married or single? Do you like beer? Football? Do you own a fishing boat? If so, please post picture of boat.

From MoreThanRhetoric: ...complicity is easier to prove than the underlying charge...

Okay, how come? Seriously, I've never heard that before - I'm no lawyer, but I like the law and watching court cases. Note that I don't doubt what you say, but I'd like to know why it works that way.

posted by madjack on Nov 17, 2010 at 07:51:24 pm     #   1 person liked this

From MoreThanRhetoric: ...complicity is easier to prove than the underlying charge...

Okay, how come?

I'd disagree. I don't think it's easier to prove. Still have to have the requisite mens rea and actus reus. It's a totally different offense. Saying it's easier is like saying it's easier to prove attempted murder v. murder -- not really easier, as they are two separate offenses.

posted by JJFad on Nov 17, 2010 at 08:00:20 pm     #  

Long story short - the prosecution does not need to prove that he participated in the actual B&E, only that he committed ANY act that facilitated the crime (e.g. gave them a ride to the store, loaned them the bolt cutters, etc...) The state needs to prove that someone committed the B&E and, technically, they don't even have to be able to prove which person. As long as they can connect AZ to the pair and show that one of them must have committed the crime with even slight assistance from AZ, they have made their case - assuming the jury buys it. As someone pointed out, it is in Wood County, which makes the prosecution's job a little easier.

posted by MoreThanRhetoric on Nov 17, 2010 at 08:00:22 pm     #  

sounds like I struck a raw nerve with you, JJ.

I do not have a personal dispute with AZ, I only met him a couple of times.

My issues are with people that deceive Lucas County citizens then deny everything as they try to get away with their scam and the false personna that they have cleverly built.

You seem a bit touchy, JJ.
If Carleton Finkbeiner was named the Truth and Honesty Czar of Lucas County, would you have a problem with people calling him a liar and a deceiver ? Kinda/Sorta the same thing.

AZ is not what he holds himself out to be, that is all. Nothing personal.

posted by NoSheetSherlock on Nov 17, 2010 at 08:00:48 pm     #   1 person liked this

madjack -

here is a good outline of what complicity entails. http://www.lexisnexis.com/lawschool/study/outlines/html/crim/crim23.htm

posted by JJFad on Nov 17, 2010 at 08:01:35 pm     #   1 person liked this

NSS, I disagree. Your attacks are personal and I believe you have something personal against AZ.

Good luck in life.

posted by JJFad on Nov 17, 2010 at 08:02:29 pm     #  

regardless of what sort of illegal activities AZ may or may not have been involved in, i kind of feel sorry for the dude. it must suck to get in trouble, and be in the public eye.

and... welp, at least we know whats happening with the AZ pop-up shop at Ole Tacos downtown!

posted by upso on Nov 17, 2010 at 08:10:31 pm     #  

upso - did you feel sorry for Jeffrey Dahmer also ?

criminal activity is criminal activity.

posted by NoSheetSherlock on Nov 17, 2010 at 08:13:14 pm     #   1 person liked this

AZ murdered gay males and stored their body parts in the freezer?!?! WHO THE FUCK KNEW! HOLY SHIT! BURN HIM NOW!

IS THAT WHY HIS PIZZA WAS SO GOOD?!?!

posted by JJFad on Nov 17, 2010 at 08:17:33 pm     #  

OldHome, I'm here to restore your faith in humanity. Our household receives a radio ratings diary and we take it very seriously, even to the extent of reporting a 15-minute interlude of a Canadian radio station that my car picks up only on one stretch of highway.

We identify stations and where we listened (home/work/car) for a seven-day period. Sticky notes make it relatively easy to record small bits of info throughout the day, but we fill out our diary every night. For seven days' worth of work, we get paid $6.

posted by viola on Nov 17, 2010 at 08:17:40 pm     #  

Thanks for the link, JJFad. I have never dealt with complicity (at least in the legal sense) in various guises in life. This might also be a throw-in charge for the purposes of plea bargaining, and I suspect the state is mostly interested in getting its paws on sales tax receipts. If AZ was doing $30K a week, and 80 percent was dine-in, he would have been responsible for $1560 a week in sales taxes (I believe Wood County is 6.5%; someone correct me if it is higher). Over the six months or so in dispute, this would be over $40K in back taxes, which is not chump change even by LeBron James standards.

I would bet that if games were played with sales taxes, the IRS will be the next to come a-knocking. Employee withholding can be around 15 percent of payroll, and if even a couple 940 and/or 941 payments were skipped, the amount of indebtedness faced by AZ would be staggering.

Also, state and federal tax liabilities never go away in bankruptcy, so he will be paying on any unpaid taxes for a very long time.

Note: while I am only speculating on any possible IRS delinquencies, business owners in financial difficulty commonly try to buy time by delaying payments to the state and the feds. If a business owner is reduced to the point of delaying tax payments to one entity, you can almost bet that the robbing-Peter-to-pay-Paul philosophy is at work. Besides, the IRS is simply slower than the state at reacting to shortfalls: in my own experience, on the occasions when I was late with sales tax I would get notification within 30 days or so, while the IRS was always 60-90 days in demanding payment for late taxes. It is only natural that people try to buy time by delaying the comparatively pokey IRS, though in reality the IRS is much scarier than a state taxing authority: there is nowhere in the U.S. to hide from the IRS.

Unfortunately, the IRS and the state governments are extremely expensive bankers, and any short-term breathing room you gain from delaying payments ultimately costs a great deal more once penalties and interest are assessed. I have no doubt that the IRS would use its Trust Fund Recovery powers to make AZ's life miserable. The IRS will not listen to sob stories about legal conspiracies or embezzling store level managers: they want their money, they want it now, and if you do not pay (or enter into a payment agreement) they will levy and seize every source of wealth they can find.

I paid every dime of federal and state taxes my businesses owed, but it took me almost six years after I got out of being a business owner to finish clearing up late charges and penalties my corporation incurred. As president/CEO, I was ultimately responsible in the eyes of the IRS for every last nickel that corporation owed the government, and from 1999 to 2006 the government grabbed every tax refund to which I was entitled in addition to the $100 a month I agreed to pay them. In hindsight, of course, getting behind on taxes is a really dumb idea, but desperate business owners take desperate measures.

Some desperate business owners, however, reach too far and wind up getting badly burned by their unshakeable belief that everything will one day get better. I thank God I had just enough common sense to realize that there was apoint at which I was better off throwing in the proverbial towel. I hope that Andrew Z also had enough wisdom to avoid spending the next decade or two being a slave to the IRS.

posted by historymike on Nov 17, 2010 at 08:33:58 pm     #   1 person liked this

NSS definitely has something a brewin'. "Only met him a couple times" means radio groupie. Mad about something. Then there is the 36/24/36 BS.

I am the troll here - capishe!?

posted by Ryan on Nov 17, 2010 at 08:34:45 pm     #   1 person liked this

"upso - did you feel sorry for Jeffrey Dahmer also ?"

Good case for clicking the exclamation mark next to that comment.

posted by jr on Nov 17, 2010 at 08:35:07 pm     #   2 people liked this

http://toledotalk.com/cgi-bin/tt.pl/flag/72507

posted by jr on Nov 17, 2010 at 08:37:52 pm     #  

Viola--you are the exception. It's probably why they ask you to keep providing information!

$6 is pathetic for compensation (another reason why people don't take it seriously). Arbitron makes millions (as it has a monopoly on the ratings game)--they should triple their payout to at least $20. Might help their response rates (which are low).

posted by oldhometown on Nov 17, 2010 at 08:58:01 pm     #  

It's getting worse by the minute.

posted by Molsonator on Nov 18, 2010 at 12:32:51 pm     #  

I love stats.

6'5" - 265lbs
18" neck, 37" sleeve
52" chest, 40" waist

NOW, it's getting worse Molson!

posted by HickoryG on Nov 18, 2010 at 01:43:30 pm     #  

I'm sooooooooo confused.

posted by Ryan on Nov 18, 2010 at 01:45:57 pm     #  

Funny stuff.

posted by Molsonator on Nov 18, 2010 at 02:32:49 pm     #  

6'5" - 265lbs
18" neck, 37" sleeve
52" chest, 40" waist

Male or female?

posted by madjack on Nov 18, 2010 at 05:05:14 pm     #  

My thanks to MoreThanRhetoric and JJFad for the links.

posted by madjack on Nov 18, 2010 at 05:09:54 pm     #  

I feel sorry for AZ and I hate the IRS. back in the 70's I had a small manufacturing business. Things got really slow so I closed the doors. I then stuck around $250,000 in the business checking account and continued paying each of the employees their normal salary until they could find work. We had no income and no work other than finding jobs for the empolyees. This lasted about 6 months. Finally everyone was working and I sold the place. Then the I.R.S said I owed them back taxes of about $65,000 because I neglected to take the business portion of taxes out of the paychecks. So I paid the bastards. I should have just wrote personal gift checks to everyone, but I was younger & dumber then. It won't happen again and I now have an accountant that finds every legal loophole he can. I don't care if it cost me $1,000 to save $100. I just don't like the I.R.S and I'll never again pay more than I have to.

posted by AmericanPie on Nov 18, 2010 at 08:22:09 pm     #  

This a great example of how to NOT run a business. $50,000 "missing," not paying sales tax, relatives being allegedly being involved in a break-in. You can't make this stuff up. Now he has the balls to say that the P-burg police are "out to get him." They're not out to get you jackass, they're just following an evidence trail that a 6 year old could pick up on. What a train wreck.

posted by hunkytownsausage on Nov 19, 2010 at 09:39:01 am     #   2 people liked this

And he keeps posting on the social networks like "Facebook" about this situation. You have the right to remain silent, I'd start using that advice. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. There's dumb and there's stupidity, don't know which one this is.

posted by Hoops on Nov 19, 2010 at 09:49:02 am     #  

I thought the same thing Hoops. Him posting on social networks and spouting off on TV and radio is more than likely to piss off the P-burg police and any other parties involved. It's usually not wise to piss off the authorities when you're involved in a felony investigation, regardless if you are in the right or wrong. Just sayin...

posted by hunkytownsausage on Nov 19, 2010 at 10:25:40 am     #  

This from The Blade -

Andrew Zepeda said he regrets speaking out against law enforcement because he holds police "in super high regard," and that he daily carries a Toledo Police replica badge that reads "Brother."

Huh? I almost shot Mt. Dew out my nose.

posted by Molsonator on Nov 19, 2010 at 10:58:38 am     #  

Here's his Wed, Nov 17, 2010 Facebook post about being indicted, and how the Perrysburg Police are on a witch hunt by creating bogus charges. That thread contains over 50 comments.

Excerpts from his latest Facebook post from today:

Don't forget, we are doing our show live from Hooters ALL morning long!!!

posted by jr on Nov 19, 2010 at 11:05:30 am     #  

I was more offended by his writing of "alot" in a facebook post instead of "a lot." A pet peeve, but only because my 9th grade English teacher made a fool of me for spelling it wrong. Now I take my vengeance out on others.

posted by JJFad on Nov 19, 2010 at 01:10:09 pm     #  

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