The discussion of public unions seems to encompass much of my conversation time these days.
I was again discussing this topic last night. This instance, with a newspaper writer along with some other long-time friends. However, most of the discussion was between us since he decided to take a shot at me. He was someone I assumed to have a greater understanding than the average citizen. That was a very incorrect assumption.
He has a couple of college degrees, of course, and decades of writing experience. Surprisingly, he has nearly zero knowledge about the methods he supposedly supports.
He was whining on and on about what teachers are paid, Wall Street, "rich" people, so finally I had enough and asked him many questions. Below are several, but not the complete list:
1. Are teachers forced to enter the job field of education?
Answer: After sitting there confused and not wanting to answer, he finally said nobody.
2. What exactly should a new teacher out of college be paid (SALARY AND ALL BENEFITS) per calender year? Answer: he never gave one.
3. What exactly should a day care worker be paid (incl S & B) per calender year? Answer: $8-12 per hour. Bells should be ringing in your head from that reply.
4. Are you willing to pay higher taxes YOURSELF to fund what you think teachers should be paid? Answer: No, let "rich" people pay for it.
5. What annual income and/or net worth defines "rich" according to you? Answer: 100-150k a year. Unsure was given about net worth and I didn't further press for one.
6. If you own a home, what is the total sq ft. including barn, garage, and other attached buildings. Additionally, the total acreage. I asked the acreage, for I already knew he owned a place with a few acres and others in the group were renters.
OF COURSE, his real mental definition of "rich" is everybody with more than himself, but he would never admit that for it would debunk all the other folly he supports.
The conversation later drifted to discussing communism and socialism.
He hinted that communism wasn't "all that bad" of a system.
I immediately stated that under communism, his employer and job would not exist.
Obviously he was and likely still is clueless what communism is, so I wasn't going to further discuss the topic. Since he was already neck-high in poo via his earlier statement, he didn't object.
Of course he then tells me he thinks socialism is great. Most of these self-proclaimed-do-gooders support socialism when they falsely believe someone else is paying the bill. Once they are handed a bill to support the cooperatives, they have a different opinion. Their motto is "palms up me like socialism, palms in own pocket, me don't like socialism."
I asked him his annual salary. What he stated I perceive to be truthful. It was slightly more than 1.5x what the average Toledoan earns. We didn't included benefits, but since he receives plenty from his job, he again supports socialism for his personal situation is net gain.
I stated he earned 1.5x more than the average Toledoan, he immediately (as expected) shouted he "deserved" more since he was a college graduate. I debunked that as nonsense. He will pay his share regardless of how much schooling he obtained.
Thus, when buys a beer next time, he should pay AT LEAST 1.5x the quoted price. Anyone without an income will get all the beer they can drink free of charge or he will contribute to buying it for them. Someone earning half the average Toledo salary will pay half-price.
Ilovetoledo, I think maybe you and this chap attended the same school of folly.
I'll ask more later when I have time, but I must ask you a question.
What exactly do you believe a janitor at UT should be paid per hour including all benefits?